UKGD08 - 40K Seminar

**philbrad2** · 15-09-2008, 01:07

Well nothing massively staggering here. But for the record here's my report. Other attendees feel free to chip in. GW put one on primarily for WD subscribers. The seminar was a joint 40K/FB event host by Jervis (40K) Andy H (FB)

Not much new from what I have read of the seminar at other event

40K concentrated entirely on Codex:SM for the presentation. Few little tidbits of interest, yes the LoTD are back and bringing new models with them (as can be seen from other threads) we've seen the rules for them already but the new models do look very nice Juan Diaz's heavy flamer is pretty cool (I'll be posting pics Monday)

Q&A - Nothing much SW are in the 'discussion' phase. DE are still on-going from what Jervis was saying it sounds liek the entire DE range is being done by Jes G (no bad thing) though still no firm date for release. Necron's are also at the 'discussion' phase of things. No news of what's after Codex SM *cough IG cough* and there will be more Apocalypse books and expansions. Codex DA/SW stand as is and don't take on elements of Codex:SM and the BA have just had a 5th ed revamp to their website based codex, which no one pointed out. GW will continue on its new policy of addtional mini releases after a codex is released. So if a codex has units in it with no mini they will eventually appear.

One question put forward by our own HULKSTER had my FULL attention. Will we see Traitor Legion armylists. Jervis' answer was "Yes we aim to do a standalone codex for each Legion" no timescale on this at all (surprise) but if there is a genuine commitment to do this this is the best news of the entire UKGD for me. Whether these will be full 120-140 page books, please, please, please or potentially a BA style White Dwarf 'dex we don't know. To be honest I personally think the Triator Legions would be most likely to be covered in this format - its least hassle for GW and I reckon there simply isn't enough money in standalone Legion codices to warrant the print and mini costs.

PhilB

synapse · 15-09-2008, 01:11

was there nothing mentioned about tau? with the pics of new model i was expecting a new wave of releases too.

thanks

Battle-Brother Wags · 15-09-2008, 01:15

Originally Posted by philbrad2

Codex DA/SW stand as is and don't take on elements of Codex:SM . . .

I can only assume this is a typo and you mean "codex DA/BT stand as is . . ."

Because SW CAN'T stand as is and not take elements from Codex:SM . . .

So please clarify if possible. Thanks!

tehgeist · 15-09-2008, 01:20

A Legion codex for each god? That would make my Tzeentch playing friend really happy.

@synapse:
New Tau stuff? Any chance that you have a link?

best regards

EDIT: Never mind found the tread^^

aka_mythos · 15-09-2008, 01:24

What tau?... Only thing I've seen is the tau collector range model and those doesn't necessarily get rules.

I think he just meant that beyond where Codex SW refers to Codex SM the codex is as it is. By that they mean you don't get any of the new stuff, the units in the the SW and DA codices are as they are, and that rules beyond things referencing the Codex SM are not amended.

Always good to here DE are being worked on. I'm really looking forward to the Legion codices too.

EDIT: I think on the TAU he means this:
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162642
Probably just a random release, in the same vein as the second wave releases.

verydarkshadow · 15-09-2008, 01:28

Originally Posted by aka_mythos

What tau?...

See Synapse's thread here for the pics.

I've certainly never seen that battle suit before, and I too am surprised they didn't mention anything about them. Unless those turn out to be FW models...?

Spacker · 15-09-2008, 01:31

Originally Posted by verydarkshadow

I've certainly never seen that battle suit before, and I too am surprised they didn't mention anything about them. Unless those turn out to be FW models...?

Those tau were in a cabinet in the area with all the GW releases, all the FW stuff was in a different hall entirely. I think they were in the same cabinet as the Land Speeder Storm and Marine Casualties.

verydarkshadow · 15-09-2008, 01:35

Originally Posted by Spacker

Those tau were in a cabinet in the area with all the GW releases, all the FW stuff was in a different hall entirely. I think they were in the same cabinet as the Land Speeder Storm and Marine Casualties.

Ahh...so the question is, metal Collectors Range or (much delayed) second wave Tau releases?

Anybody?

Lord Cook · 15-09-2008, 01:37

Originally Posted by philbrad2

No news of what's after Codex SM *cough IG cough*

Care to share the evidence/news behind your oh-so-subtle hint there?

gamer2456 · 15-09-2008, 02:20

I could go for a World Eaters codex

shabbadoo · 15-09-2008, 02:29

A codex for each Legion? That is just crazy. They need to compile and cut back on codexes, not do even more of them. At this rate, there will be near to 20 individual codexes, and when they only realease around 2 per year, that will be a codex update *every other game edition*. That of course is rather idiotic. Might as well just play Space Marines, as we can be assured that they will get a new codex every game edition. Unless of course we will now see 4 codexes released every year as a standard thing. I'll believe that when I see it happen more than once.

Bestial Fury · 15-09-2008, 02:49

Quote Codex DA/SW stand as is and don't take on elements of Codex:SM

They better FAQ the hell out of SW's when the new SM dex is released.

Our current dex points to many wargear/vehicle items in the current SM dex.

RSIxidor · 15-09-2008, 03:11

Originally Posted by shabbadoo

A codex for each Legion? That is just crazy. They need to compile and cut back on codexes, not do even more of them. At this rate, there will be near to 20 individual codexes, and when they only realease around 2 per year, that will be a codex update *every other game edition*. That of course is rather idiotic. Might as well just play Space Marines, as we can be assured that they will get a new codex every game edition. Unless of course we will now see 4 codexes released every year as a standard thing. I'll believe that when I see it happen more than once.

I can understand this sentiment about needing less books. I've heard it said that they could release four codices inside one book (one book release), considering that many models are being released for CSM and Daemons books. It would unfortunately be a bit light on the fluff in this course of action but could appease some fans with the rules. And just to make sure you understand what I would propose: 4 seperate independent codices (though I suppose some entries would overlap, and there could be some reason to present the book that way) inside of one binding.

zendral · 16-09-2008, 04:33

Originally Posted by philbrad2

One question put forward by our own HULKSTER had my FULL attention. Will we see Traitor Legion armylists. Jervis' answer was "Yes we aim to do a standalone codex for each Legion" no timescale on this at all (surprise) but if there is a genuine commitment to do this this is the best news of the entire UKGD for me. Whether these will be full 120-140 page books, please, please, please or potentially a BA style White Dwarf 'dex we don't know. To be honest I personally think the Triator Legions would be most likely to be covered in this format - its least hassle for GW and I reckon there simply isn't enough money in standalone Legion codices to warrant the print and mini costs.

PhilB

I love you.

I would love to have anything. A WD list at least would make me estatic. *begins happy dance*

KazenX · 16-09-2008, 04:47

As others have said that battle suit looks like a plastic farsight, and the infantry look like plastic pathfinders.

WD dexes would be great for the legions give some meat back to WD and provide a vehicle for balance testing and as a marketing tool to gauge if demand is enough to warent full dexes and models.

The Dude · 16-09-2008, 05:14

Originally Posted by KazenX

As others have said that battle suit looks like a plastic farsight, and the infantry look like plastic pathfinders.

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When will people learn?

vladsimpaler · 16-09-2008, 05:19

Originally Posted by Lord Cook

Care to share the evidence/news behind your oh-so-subtle hint there?

Seconded!

By the way, those new Turrets look awesome...

BDJV · 16-09-2008, 05:23

Thanks for the info!

I do hope GW address the SW Rhino/Razorback points costs.

Harry · 16-09-2008, 07:20

Originally Posted by philbrad2

One question put forward by our own HULKSTER had my FULL attention. Will we see Traitor Legion armylists. Jervis' answer was "Yes we aim to do a standalone codex for each Legion" no timescale on this at all (surprise) but if there is a genuine commitment to do this this is the best news of the entire UKGD for me. Whether these will be full 120-140 page books, please, please, please or potentially a BA style White Dwarf 'dex we don't know. To be honest I personally think the Triator Legions would be most likely to be covered in this format - its least hassle for GW and I reckon there simply isn't enough money in standalone Legion codices to warrant the print and mini costs.

They will not be doing a codex for EACH legion. (anymore than they will be doing one for EACH space marine chapter).
They will only be doing a small selection BUT they will get a full codex in the same way the Dark Angels did.

Harry · 16-09-2008, 07:22

Originally Posted by Lord Cook

Care to share the evidence/news behind your oh-so-subtle hint there?

I told him.

Sat next to him in the seminar.

Very nice to meet you Mr. P sir.

15-09-2008, 01:07	#1
philbrad2 Back to stalking Kylie .. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Aiding the scum of the (40K) universe... savvy! Posts: 3,280 iTrader: (1)	UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Well nothing massively staggering here. But for the record here's my report. Other attendees feel free to chip in. GW put one on primarily for WD subscribers. The seminar was a joint 40K/FB event host by Jervis (40K) Andy H (FB) Not much new from what I have read of the seminar at other event 40K concentrated entirely on Codex:SM for the presentation. Few little tidbits of interest, yes the LoTD are back and bringing new models with them (as can be seen from other threads) we've seen the rules for them already but the new models do look very nice Juan Diaz's heavy flamer is pretty cool (I'll be posting pics Monday) Q&A - Nothing much SW are in the 'discussion' phase. DE are still on-going from what Jervis was saying it sounds liek the entire DE range is being done by Jes G (no bad thing) though still no firm date for release. Necron's are also at the 'discussion' phase of things. No news of what's after Codex SM cough IG cough and there will be more Apocalypse books and expansions. Codex DA/SW stand as is and don't take on elements of Codex:SM and the BA have just had a 5th ed revamp to their website based codex, which no one pointed out. GW will continue on its new policy of addtional mini releases after a codex is released. So if a codex has units in it with no mini they will eventually appear. One question put forward by our own HULKSTER had my FULL attention. Will we see Traitor Legion armylists. Jervis' answer was "Yes we aim to do a standalone codex for each Legion" no timescale on this at all (surprise) but if there is a genuine commitment to do this this is the best news of the entire UKGD for me. Whether these will be full 120-140 page books, please, please, please or potentially a BA style White Dwarf 'dex we don't know. To be honest I personally think the Triator Legions would be most likely to be covered in this format - its least hassle for GW and I reckon there simply isn't enough money in standalone Legion codices to warrant the print and mini costs. PhilB __________________ Jon 'BRIMSTONE' Wilson - Friend and gamer RIP * KYLIE MINOGUE Appreciation Society WarSeer Medusa V Chaos Warlord \m/ Metalheads of WarSeer \m/WarSeer forums FAQ Please read Crush your enemies, see then driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women!*

15-09-2008, 01:11	#2
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15-09-2008, 01:15	#3
Battle-Brother Wags Commander Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mass, USA Posts: 836 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by philbrad2 Codex DA/SW stand as is and don't take on elements of Codex:SM . . . I can only assume this is a typo and you mean "codex DA/BT stand as is . . ." Because SW CAN'T stand as is and not take elements from Codex:SM . . . So please clarify if possible. Thanks! __________________ Originally Posted by Calvin That's the whole problem with science. You've got a bunch of empiricists trying to describe things of unimaginable wonder. Originally Posted by Lord Corvis of Petrax If all else fails: duck. As a defensive strategem it's unreliable, but incredibly reassuring for a moment or two.

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tehgeist Veteran Sergeant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Giessen, Germany Posts: 99 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar A Legion codex for each god? That would make my Tzeentch playing friend really happy. @synapse: New Tau stuff? Any chance that you have a link? best regards EDIT: Never mind found the tread^^ __________________ Member of "the tale of 40k painters" Orks - 2000 points Ork WIP thread: http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155731

15-09-2008, 01:24	#5
aka_mythos Commander Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 935 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar What tau?... Only thing I've seen is the tau collector range model and those doesn't necessarily get rules. I think he just meant that beyond where Codex SW refers to Codex SM the codex is as it is. By that they mean you don't get any of the new stuff, the units in the the SW and DA codices are as they are, and that rules beyond things referencing the Codex SM are not amended. Always good to here DE are being worked on. I'm really looking forward to the Legion codices too. EDIT: I think on the TAU he means this: http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162642 Probably just a random release, in the same vein as the second wave releases. __________________ Come see my Knight Titan blog. I'm looking for feedback as I digitally model this beast and have it prototyped. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211973 Last edited by aka_mythos; 15-09-2008 at 01:28.

15-09-2008, 01:28	#6
verydarkshadow Commander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canadalandia Posts: 563 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by aka_mythos What tau?... See Synapse's thread here for the pics. I've certainly never seen that battle suit before, and I too am surprised they didn't mention anything about them. Unless those turn out to be FW models...?

15-09-2008, 01:31	#7
Spacker Chapter Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 3,553 iTrader: (2)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by verydarkshadow I've certainly never seen that battle suit before, and I too am surprised they didn't mention anything about them. Unless those turn out to be FW models...? Those tau were in a cabinet in the area with all the GW releases, all the FW stuff was in a different hall entirely. I think they were in the same cabinet as the Land Speeder Storm and Marine Casualties. __________________ Dan Age of Strife Owner \| AB40k admin/beta tester Gaming Figures Store Partner \| #warhammer40k on irc.quakenet.org Owner Originally Posted by Hugh G. Reckshun Word on the street is .. if Spacker hasn't said it .. it can't be true. that or .. it's not worth hearing .. one of the two.

15-09-2008, 01:35	#8
verydarkshadow Commander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canadalandia Posts: 563 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by Spacker Those tau were in a cabinet in the area with all the GW releases, all the FW stuff was in a different hall entirely. I think they were in the same cabinet as the Land Speeder Storm and Marine Casualties. Ahh...so the question is, metal Collectors Range or (much delayed) second wave Tau releases? Anybody?

15-09-2008, 01:37	#9
Lord Cook Lord Solar MarCookius Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 6,594 iTrader: (14)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by philbrad2 No news of what's after Codex SM cough IG cough Care to share the evidence/news behind your oh-so-subtle hint there? __________________ Tactica Imperium PDF. An update for the PDF is forthcoming. New articles, favourite army lists, tournament reports; all submissions welcome regardless of size, verbosity or controversy. Just PM me. Originally Posted by Doctor Thunder I had a lot of fun at Games Day and I learned a lot of things. For instance, I learned that Forgeworld Drop Pods look exactly like chunks of plastic explosives under airport scanners...

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gamer2456 Chaplain Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 222 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar I could go for a World Eaters codex

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shabbadoo Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Maelstrom Posts: 2,596 iTrader: (3)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar A codex for each Legion? That is just crazy. They need to compile and cut back on codexes, not do even more of them. At this rate, there will be near to 20 individual codexes, and when they only realease around 2 per year, that will be a codex update every other game edition. That of course is rather idiotic. Might as well just play Space Marines, as we can be assured that they will get a new codex every game edition. Unless of course we will now see 4 codexes released every year as a standard thing. I'll believe that when I see it happen more than once. __________________ Things I've Done For Retail Sales 40K Project Log- Dark Angels, Orks,Word Bearers, Tau, IG Vampire Counts Project Log Airbrush Information & Advice* Current 40K Armies: Dark Angels Word Bearers Orks Tallarn Imperial Guard Tau Currentl WFB Armies: Vampire Counts Bretonnians

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Bestial Fury Commander Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 609 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Quote Codex DA/SW stand as is and don't take on elements of Codex:SM They better FAQ the hell out of SW's when the new SM dex is released. Our current dex points to many wargear/vehicle items in the current SM dex. __________________ "Kill the Mutant, Purge the Witch, Burn the Whiner!"

15-09-2008, 03:11	#13
RSIxidor Librarian Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 380 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by shabbadoo A codex for each Legion? That is just crazy. They need to compile and cut back on codexes, not do even more of them. At this rate, there will be near to 20 individual codexes, and when they only realease around 2 per year, that will be a codex update every other game edition. That of course is rather idiotic. Might as well just play Space Marines, as we can be assured that they will get a new codex every game edition. Unless of course we will now see 4 codexes released every year as a standard thing. I'll believe that when I see it happen more than once. I can understand this sentiment about needing less books. I've heard it said that they could release four codices inside one book (one book release), considering that many models are being released for CSM and Daemons books. It would unfortunately be a bit light on the fluff in this course of action but could appease some fans with the rules. And just to make sure you understand what I would propose: 4 seperate independent codices (though I suppose some entries would overlap, and there could be some reason to present the book that way) inside of one binding.

16-09-2008, 04:33	#14
zendral Chapter Master Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the chaos wastes(alaska) Posts: 1,161 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by philbrad2 One question put forward by our own HULKSTER had my FULL attention. Will we see Traitor Legion armylists. Jervis' answer was "Yes we aim to do a standalone codex for each Legion" no timescale on this at all (surprise) but if there is a genuine commitment to do this this is the best news of the entire UKGD for me. Whether these will be full 120-140 page books, please, please, please or potentially a BA style White Dwarf 'dex we don't know. To be honest I personally think the Triator Legions would be most likely to be covered in this format - its least hassle for GW and I reckon there simply isn't enough money in standalone Legion codices to warrant the print and mini costs. PhilB I love you. I would love to have anything. A WD list at least would make me estatic. begins happy dance __________________ Tell me what's on your mind or I'll splatter it on the wall and see for myself! -(Blitzwing, Transformers) Zendral's Daemon Forge World of Tzeentch My Apocolypse Homebrew rules, makin The Thousand Son Legion Cool on an Epic scale

16-09-2008, 04:47	#15
KazenX Veteran Sergeant Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 103 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar As others have said that battle suit looks like a plastic farsight, and the infantry look like plastic pathfinders. WD dexes would be great for the legions give some meat back to WD and provide a vehicle for balance testing and as a marketing tool to gauge if demand is enough to warent full dexes and models. __________________ -Courage and Honour Last edited by KazenX; 16-09-2008 at 04:51.

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The Dude Freaky Poncho Goblin Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 7,076 iTrader: (0)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by KazenX As others have said that battle suit looks like a plastic farsight, and the infantry look like plastic pathfinders. Resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin resin!!! When will people learn? __________________ Lies? That's just.. like.. your opinion, man

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vladsimpaler Commander Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 598 iTrader: (3)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by Lord Cook Care to share the evidence/news behind your oh-so-subtle hint there? Seconded! By the way, those new Turrets look awesome... __________________ To those who think that a combined Chaos codex is impossible-check out this link. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235756 It has LatD, Marines, and Daemons. They each have the ability to be played on their own, or you can combine them as you wish. Please leave feedback.

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16-09-2008, 07:20	#19
Harry Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,906 iTrader: (34)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by philbrad2 One question put forward by our own HULKSTER had my FULL attention. Will we see Traitor Legion armylists. Jervis' answer was "Yes we aim to do a standalone codex for each Legion" no timescale on this at all (surprise) but if there is a genuine commitment to do this this is the best news of the entire UKGD for me. Whether these will be full 120-140 page books, please, please, please or potentially a BA style White Dwarf 'dex we don't know. To be honest I personally think the Triator Legions would be most likely to be covered in this format - its least hassle for GW and I reckon there simply isn't enough money in standalone Legion codices to warrant the print and mini costs. They will not be doing a codex for EACH legion. (anymore than they will be doing one for EACH space marine chapter). They will only be doing a small selection BUT they will get a full codex in the same way the Dark Angels did. __________________ Please visit my project log herehttp://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87490 Please visit 'The Tale of Painters' in the Warseer modelling and Painting support group forum.

16-09-2008, 07:22	#20
Harry Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,906 iTrader: (34)	Re: UKGD08 - 40K Seminar Originally Posted by Lord Cook Care to share the evidence/news behind your oh-so-subtle hint there? I told him. Sat next to him in the seminar. Very nice to meet you Mr. P sir. __________________ Please visit my project log herehttp://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87490 Please visit 'The Tale of Painters' in the Warseer modelling and Painting support group forum.

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