Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary

Revlid · 29-10-2009, 18:21

Originally Posted by Games Workshop Newsletter, November

In the dark places of the world, the Beastmen have been gathering in number and in February they will unleash their rage on the Warhammer world with renewed vigour. A feral army of twisted monsters, the Beastmen have inhabitant the dark forests and wild places of the world since such places existed. To lead a Beastmen army is to field vast herds of braying, brutish beasts who worship Chaos in all its forms, and who fight to level the civilised world.

This will be the first time ever that the Beastmen have had their own, completely stand-alone, army list. The forthcoming Warhammer Armies: Beastmen is full of twisted monsters old and new, and an all-new lore of magic. The Beastmen are the original inhabitants of the Old World: in February 2010 they come to reclaim it from the hands of Men.

It is not my intention to imply that only these rumours may be discussed, only that these are the ones I have determined to be strong enough to put in a summary (and have actually read).

People should feel free to post and discuss anything that they hear, regardless of the source, but the Summary will only ever include those rumours which I feel deserve to be here.

General info

Release is February 2010, after Tyranids, with advance orders starting January 4th. There will be a preview in WD362.

Was to be written by Andy Hoare, but he has since quit Games Workshop. Believed to have been finished by Jeremy Vetock.

The name of the book has changed from "Beasts of Chaos" to "Beastmen". The cover art is below.

Rules

Army-wide Special Rules, Magic Lores, and Magic Items

Ambush is supposedly staying much the same, though it has been suggested that it will no longer be dependant on the General. No news on Unruly.

An "all new magic lore" (singular) has been promised, believed to be an entirely new "Lore of the Dark Forest".

Alongside Magic Items, "Mutations" will be available in the same way as WoC Gifts or Vampire Powers, operating on the same budgetary lines. Bonuses, like Scaly Skin, extra Strength and Movement are expected, as well as more esoteric abilities like Breath Weapons. Multiples of the same Mutation are expected to be allowed.

The traditional marking system may have been scrapped, in keeping with the less obvious devotion to the Godly "cults" of Chaos.

*Note, army-list slots are representative only until more solid rumours appear*

Lords & Heroes

Beastlord/Wargor – Ld 9, T5, with appropriate price hikes. May take Chaos Armour. May be accompanied by a 'pet' Revered Beast Spawn.

Great Bray-Shaman/Bray-Shaman – Beast Spawn as above, access to new Lore. No other news.

Doombull– A metal box set release is confirmed; it is assumed that the Doombull will still allow Minotaurs as Core.

Centigor Hero - Aside from the Centigor Special Character, it has been rumoured that there will be a Centigor character available as a standard Hero choice.

Core

Beast Herds - Initially comprised entirely of Gors, with Ungors as optional additions (in a similar manner as Kroxigor in a Skink unit, though obviously with a different usage).
Ranking issues are fixed. Foe-Renders will no longer provide +1Ld.

Ungor Herd - A seperate Ungor unit, known to have short bows available to it.

Bestigor Herds – New Plastic Models (see below).

Warhounds - Varieties of Warhounds allowed through upgrades - Hunting, Guarding, etc.

Centigor Herd – Moved to Core. Fast Cavalry.

Special

Tuskgor Chariots – Believed to be a 2-4-1 choice.

Minotaurs – New plastic models. Access to Shields, Additional Handweapons, Great Weapons and a Musician. Still Core with Doombull. The only "Ogre-Sized" infantry in the list.

Razorgor - The previously mentioned "Gruulgor". A single metal model, similar in appearance to a warthog. Possibly a large Tuskgor.

Rare

Chaos Giant – As in WoC book.

Spawn – Assumed to be as in WoC book. Possibility of slight changes with regards to "Marks".

Gorgon – A new monster, based around the Catoblepas. Chariot-base, with Movement 8 and stats in the 5s, with Impact Hits and a Breathweapon. No model has been reported.

Special Characters

All the Special Characters from the last book will return in this one. New ones talked about include:
- A Centigor character by the name of Ghorros Warhoof, with special Drunken rules and a magical Great Weapon. As his name suggests, he has hooves rather than claws.
- A Bray-Shaman by the name of "Malagor the Dark Omen", with a feather-lined cloak.
- A Minotaur character dragging a Herdstone that allows him to cast spells. May be a Champion upgrade.
- A Daemon Prince. May have Bloodthirster-level stats. Possibly Nurgle/Slaanesh marked.
- A Foe-Render character with the +1Ld of the old book, among other things.
- The Thing From The Woods, a giant Warhound/Spawn from Mordheim.

Models and Army Book

No pics yet. Work by Aly Morrison and Mark Harrison. Releases rumoured are:
* New Beastlord and Bray-Shaman models.
* Special Characters Malagor and Ghorros have generic models at unknown prices.
* Metal Doombull Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. One model, £25.
* Metal Razorgor Box. One new model, £15.
* Plastic Bestigor Box. Ten models, £25.
* Plastic Minotaur Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. 3 models, with options for greatweapons, two handweapons, and shields. £27.
* Ungors and Gors are being resculpted and split up into seperate plastic boxes, at £15 for 10 models each.
* The Tuskgor Chariot is receiving a new product code as a metal box at £18. This doesn't mean it's receiving a new model.
* The same applies to Centigors, who are now a metal box at £35.
* The Battalion will consist of 20 Gor, 10 Ungor, and 10 Bestigor, and costs £55.

If you intend to start BoC, I'd advise you to do so before the release, as Gor and Ungor (their basic troops) are becoming 67% more expensive. Snap up those Beast Herds!

Scryer in the Darkness · 29-10-2009, 18:39

Well I can confirm a February release with Advance Orders starting January 4th.

Revlid · 29-10-2009, 18:49

Added.

THE SYSTEM WORKS!

Avatar of the Eldar · 29-10-2009, 19:07

So where's the rumored "evil tree" thingamahoochie?

static grass · 29-10-2009, 19:25

Thanks for putting this up.

Just to give some insight from Warhammer Online I know some dont like it but they have made alot of effort to follow the existing fluff and in some cases develop it.

Chaos troll don't seem to have any association with BoC at all and seem mainly limited ( in game) to Troll country which seems to put them in the WoC camp. Similarly Dragon Ogres only occur in large numbers in the Chaos Wastes. Again with no association with beasts.

This is in contrast with Mino's and centigors who are encounted along side beasts quite often.

Schelle · 29-10-2009, 19:38

Any news or rumour on the contents of the batallion box?

tkkultist · 29-10-2009, 19:56

>Special
>Tuskgor Chariots – Thought to be only one per special.

I think it was GOC on herdstone (though i could be way off knowing my memory) who pretty solidly suggested that chariots were 2/slot

Revlid · 29-10-2009, 21:24

Originally Posted by tkkultist

>Special
>Tuskgor Chariots – Thought to be only one per special.

I think it was GOC on herdstone (though i could be way off knowing my memory) who pretty solidly suggested that chariots were 2/slot

I've read that, but I've also read rumours saying they're 1/slot now - I'll change it to reflect the uncertainty.

Originally Posted by Avatar of the Eldar

So where's the rumored "evil tree" thingamahoochie?

Under "Other Thoughts".

Originally Posted by Schelle

Any news or rumour on the contents of the batallion box?

Nope. We don't even know what new models we're getting yet.

Can I get some clarification on the Andy Hoare/not Andy Hoare issue?

phoenixlaw · 29-10-2009, 21:41

Well Andy Hoare no longer works for Games Workshop.

BlazeXI · 29-10-2009, 22:13

Looks like Nathan Long was hinted to use a Heardstone in "Shamanslayer".

fenrisnorth · 29-10-2009, 22:19

Do you suppose the plastic Minotaurs will look like the minotaurs in the new Blood Bowl video game? if they do I will buy a whole army's worth

decker_cky · 29-10-2009, 22:29

There's also rumours of a corrupted tree (dark heart type thing) being available. I'll try to look through the herdstone and add in the rumours we've gotten there.

Here's one from Harry hough I don't have the post it originally came from:

Originally Posted by Harry

Mark Harrison, (who did such a great job on the Chaos Knights) and the 'ever green' Aly Morrison have both done a great job on their contributions. So you do have some very nice plastic to look forward to .... all in good time.

Well the odd little snippet never did any harm.

(Go feed the ravenous beasts over at the Heardstone. )

Elsewhere Harry had referred to the Minotaurs being sculpted by one of the young'uns or something like that, so that likely means the plastic minotaurs are sculpted by Mark Harrison.

edit: The Herdstone rare HAS to be more of a wishlist item than the corrupted tree. Lugging a herdstone to combat flat out makes zero sense...

edit2: Harry confirmed that Andy Hoare left the company before the book was finished, so someone else is the author.

HK-47 · 29-10-2009, 22:35

Nice Info; does anyone have anything about changes made to the marks, and magic?

decker_cky · 29-10-2009, 22:40

According to GoC, marks are very similar to WoC.

If someone feels like digging, there's a few Herdstone threads you can dig through:
http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=17473
http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=17449
http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=16535

That's the source of most of the stuff in the first post, and contains more details in a lot of places.

Walls · 30-10-2009, 01:37

I am pretty excited for the book. They'll go along wonderfully with my marauder styled Warriors of Chaos. Guess I can start getting some boxes of gors and get going on this baby!

sulla · 30-10-2009, 04:37

Originally Posted by decker_cky

edit: The Herdstone rare HAS to be more of a wishlist item than the corrupted tree. Lugging a herdstone to combat flat out makes zero sense...

Yeah, totally ridiculous. Not like the stunties and their smithy they build in the woods each battle, or my Elves giant bucket of blood they drag around behind the army... Ridiculous or not, stranger things have happened. (Not that I particularly rate any of these rumours. Even if they did come from playlists - and we don't even know that - things can change.)

Vermin-thing · 30-10-2009, 04:44

About the chariots, been digging in the heardstone, the rumors point towards 1-2 per special choice. Why do I think this is solid? Well, at 1/choice I fail to see how they will be competitive at all compared to the other choices, unless their going to be like WoC chariots, which I highly doubt.

Ramius4 · 30-10-2009, 04:49

I'd love to see one of two things... Bestigors getting either T5 OR Chaos armor as standard equipment. Make them worth taking.

Ultimate Life Form · 30-10-2009, 06:39

Has there ever been a precedent of a model jumping the border between gaming systems!?

Because as an avid Mordheim player I'd like to know how the chances are of the Thing in the Woods making it into the Beasts book. How believable are these rumors? Though it's quite fitting to class it as a Special Character, as that's pretty much what it's in Mordheim as well: a mythic creature that hides out in the woods, attacking anyone who would dare enter...

By the way, its real name is Balewolf.

Devil Tree · 30-10-2009, 06:56

I think what Bestigors really need, is for them to have the ability to move through woods and 2 attacks as standard. It fits the glass cannon ethos of the army and doesn’t make them too expensive point wise.

By the way, does anyone know if we’re going to get any new infantry units? When rumors first started trickling in (around the time of the WoC book) I remember hearing about things like half spawn freaks and ungors with slings but nothing lately.

29-10-2009, 18:21	#1
Revlid Chapter Master Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,375 iTrader: (0)	Beastmen Rumour Summary Originally Posted by Games Workshop Newsletter, November In the dark places of the world, the Beastmen have been gathering in number and in February they will unleash their rage on the Warhammer world with renewed vigour. A feral army of twisted monsters, the Beastmen have inhabitant the dark forests and wild places of the world since such places existed. To lead a Beastmen army is to field vast herds of braying, brutish beasts who worship Chaos in all its forms, and who fight to level the civilised world. This will be the first time ever that the Beastmen have had their own, completely stand-alone, army list. The forthcoming Warhammer Armies: Beastmen is full of twisted monsters old and new, and an all-new lore of magic. The Beastmen are the original inhabitants of the Old World: in February 2010 they come to reclaim it from the hands of Men. It is not my intention to imply that only these rumours may be discussed, only that these are the ones I have determined to be strong enough to put in a summary (and have actually read). People should feel free to post and discuss anything that they hear, regardless of the source, but the Summary will only ever include those rumours which I feel deserve to be here. General info Release is February 2010, after Tyranids, with advance orders starting January 4th. There will be a preview in WD362. Was to be written by Andy Hoare, but he has since quit Games Workshop. Believed to have been finished by Jeremy Vetock. The name of the book has changed from "Beasts of Chaos" to "Beastmen". The cover art is below. Rules Army-wide Special Rules, Magic Lores, and Magic Items Ambush is supposedly staying much the same, though it has been suggested that it will no longer be dependant on the General. No news on Unruly. An "all new magic lore" (singular) has been promised, believed to be an entirely new "Lore of the Dark Forest". Alongside Magic Items, "Mutations" will be available in the same way as WoC Gifts or Vampire Powers, operating on the same budgetary lines. Bonuses, like Scaly Skin, extra Strength and Movement are expected, as well as more esoteric abilities like Breath Weapons. Multiples of the same Mutation are expected to be allowed. The traditional marking system may have been scrapped, in keeping with the less obvious devotion to the Godly "cults" of Chaos. *Note, army-list slots are representative only until more solid rumours appear* Lords & Heroes Beastlord/Wargor – Ld 9, T5, with appropriate price hikes. May take Chaos Armour. May be accompanied by a 'pet' Revered Beast Spawn. Great Bray-Shaman/Bray-Shaman – Beast Spawn as above, access to new Lore. No other news. Doombull– A metal box set release is confirmed; it is assumed that the Doombull will still allow Minotaurs as Core. Centigor Hero - Aside from the Centigor Special Character, it has been rumoured that there will be a Centigor character available as a standard Hero choice. Core Beast Herds - Initially comprised entirely of Gors, with Ungors as optional additions (in a similar manner as Kroxigor in a Skink unit, though obviously with a different usage). Ranking issues are fixed. Foe-Renders will no longer provide +1Ld. Ungor Herd - A seperate Ungor unit, known to have short bows available to it. Bestigor Herds – New Plastic Models (see below). Warhounds - Varieties of Warhounds allowed through upgrades - Hunting, Guarding, etc. Centigor Herd – Moved to Core. Fast Cavalry. Special Tuskgor Chariots – Believed to be a 2-4-1 choice. Minotaurs – New plastic models. Access to Shields, Additional Handweapons, Great Weapons and a Musician. Still Core with Doombull. The only "Ogre-Sized" infantry in the list. Razorgor - The previously mentioned "Gruulgor". A single metal model, similar in appearance to a warthog. Possibly a large Tuskgor. Rare Chaos Giant – As in WoC book. Spawn – Assumed to be as in WoC book. Possibility of slight changes with regards to "Marks". Gorgon – A new monster, based around the Catoblepas. Chariot-base, with Movement 8 and stats in the 5s, with Impact Hits and a Breathweapon. No model has been reported. Special Characters All the Special Characters from the last book will return in this one. New ones talked about include: - A Centigor character by the name of Ghorros Warhoof, with special Drunken rules and a magical Great Weapon. As his name suggests, he has hooves rather than claws. - A Bray-Shaman by the name of "Malagor the Dark Omen", with a feather-lined cloak. - A Minotaur character dragging a Herdstone that allows him to cast spells. May be a Champion upgrade. - A Daemon Prince. May have Bloodthirster-level stats. Possibly Nurgle/Slaanesh marked. - A Foe-Render character with the +1Ld of the old book, among other things. - The Thing From The Woods, a giant Warhound/Spawn from Mordheim. Models and Army Book No pics yet. Work by Aly Morrison and Mark Harrison. Releases rumoured are: * New Beastlord and Bray-Shaman models. * Special Characters Malagor and Ghorros have generic models at unknown prices. * Metal Doombull Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. One model, £25. * Metal Razorgor Box. One new model, £15. * Plastic Bestigor Box. Ten models, £25. * Plastic Minotaur Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. 3 models, with options for greatweapons, two handweapons, and shields. £27. * Ungors and Gors are being resculpted and split up into seperate plastic boxes, at £15 for 10 models each. * The Tuskgor Chariot is receiving a new product code as a metal box at £18. This doesn't mean it's receiving a new model. * The same applies to Centigors, who are now a metal box at £35. * The Battalion will consist of 20 Gor, 10 Ungor, and 10 Bestigor, and costs £55. If you intend to start BoC, I'd advise you to do so before the release, as Gor and Ungor (their basic troops) are becoming 67% more expensive. Snap up those Beast Herds! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Originally Posted by Nid Revlid: Are you inside my own *****' head?! Originally Posted by MvS Revlid: Amen. Originally Posted by Hideous Loon** Nice work, Revlid. Laud, laud. Last edited by Revlid; 19-11-2009 at 11:50.

29-10-2009, 18:39	#2
Scryer in the Darkness Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,253 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Well I can confirm a February release with Advance Orders starting January 4th. __________________ Who knows what eldritch horrors lurk in the darkness that lies beyond the wall of sleep... Originally Posted by Harry It is not much fun to see folks here upset and 'up in arms' about stuff I know is wrong. ^QFT.

29-10-2009, 18:49	#3
Revlid Chapter Master Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,375 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Added. THE SYSTEM WORKS! __________________ Originally Posted by Nid Revlid: Are you inside my own *****' head?! Originally Posted by MvS Revlid: Amen. Originally Posted by Hideous Loon** Nice work, Revlid. Laud, laud.

29-10-2009, 19:07	#4
Avatar of the Eldar Chaplain Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Bear Flag Republic Posts: 267 iTrader: (4)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary So where's the rumored "evil tree" thingamahoochie?

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tkkultist Brother Sergeant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bellevegas Posts: 68 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary >Special >Tuskgor Chariots – Thought to be only one per special. I think it was GOC on herdstone (though i could be way off knowing my memory) who pretty solidly suggested that chariots were 2/slot __________________ Satisfaction is the Death of Desire ~Hatebreed Check It Out LostInTheWarp.com

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Revlid Chapter Master Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,375 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Originally Posted by tkkultist >Special >Tuskgor Chariots – Thought to be only one per special. I think it was GOC on herdstone (though i could be way off knowing my memory) who pretty solidly suggested that chariots were 2/slot I've read that, but I've also read rumours saying they're 1/slot now - I'll change it to reflect the uncertainty. Originally Posted by Avatar of the Eldar So where's the rumored "evil tree" thingamahoochie? Under "Other Thoughts". Originally Posted by Schelle Any news or rumour on the contents of the batallion box? Nope. We don't even know what new models we're getting yet. Can I get some clarification on the Andy Hoare/not Andy Hoare issue? __________________ Originally Posted by Nid Revlid: Are you inside my own *****' head?! Originally Posted by MvS Revlid: Amen. Originally Posted by Hideous Loon** Nice work, Revlid. Laud, laud. Last edited by Revlid; 29-10-2009 at 21:29.

29-10-2009, 21:41	#9
phoenixlaw Chaplain Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 267 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Well Andy Hoare no longer works for Games Workshop. __________________ my project log http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198487

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BlazeXI Chapter Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: over here Posts: 1,729 iTrader: (2)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Looks like Nathan Long was hinted to use a Heardstone in "Shamanslayer". __________________ BlazeXI

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fenrisnorth Brother Sergeant Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 59 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Do you suppose the plastic Minotaurs will look like the minotaurs in the new Blood Bowl video game? if they do I will buy a whole army's worth

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decker_cky Chapter Master Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,912 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary There's also rumours of a corrupted tree (dark heart type thing) being available. I'll try to look through the herdstone and add in the rumours we've gotten there. Here's one from Harry hough I don't have the post it originally came from: Originally Posted by Harry Mark Harrison, (who did such a great job on the Chaos Knights) and the 'ever green' Aly Morrison have both done a great job on their contributions. So you do have some very nice plastic to look forward to .... all in good time. Well the odd little snippet never did any harm. (Go feed the ravenous beasts over at the Heardstone. ) Elsewhere Harry had referred to the Minotaurs being sculpted by one of the young'uns or something like that, so that likely means the plastic minotaurs are sculpted by Mark Harrison. edit: The Herdstone rare HAS to be more of a wishlist item than the corrupted tree. Lugging a herdstone to combat flat out makes zero sense... edit2: Harry confirmed that Andy Hoare left the company before the book was finished, so someone else is the author. __________________ http://s2.invisionfree.com/herdstone Last edited by decker_cky; 29-10-2009 at 22:32.

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HK-47 Librarian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rutherford, NJ, USA Posts: 481 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Nice Info; does anyone have anything about changes made to the marks, and magic? __________________ "Oskar: Are you a vampire? Eli: I live off blood...[pause] Yes. Oskar: Are you...[pause] Dead? Eli: No. Can't you tell?"

29-10-2009, 22:40	#14
decker_cky Chapter Master Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,912 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary According to GoC, marks are very similar to WoC. If someone feels like digging, there's a few Herdstone threads you can dig through: http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=17473 http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=17449 http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=16535 That's the source of most of the stuff in the first post, and contains more details in a lot of places. __________________ http://s2.invisionfree.com/herdstone

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Walls Commander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 607 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary I am pretty excited for the book. They'll go along wonderfully with my marauder styled Warriors of Chaos. Guess I can start getting some boxes of gors and get going on this baby!

30-10-2009, 04:37	#16
sulla Chapter Master Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 3,588 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Originally Posted by decker_cky edit: The Herdstone rare HAS to be more of a wishlist item than the corrupted tree. Lugging a herdstone to combat flat out makes zero sense... Yeah, totally ridiculous. Not like the stunties and their smithy they build in the woods each battle, or my Elves giant bucket of blood they drag around behind the army... Ridiculous or not, stranger things have happened. (Not that I particularly rate any of these rumours. Even if they did come from playlists - and we don't even know that - things can change.) __________________ Druchii.net for all your Dark Elf needs "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw ∞+1 (just because I can). Curses! You found me!

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Vermin-thing Commander Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In your kript, waiting for NOVEMBER, and Skaven! Posts: 765 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary About the chariots, been digging in the heardstone, the rumors point towards 1-2 per special choice. Why do I think this is solid? Well, at 1/choice I fail to see how they will be competitive at all compared to the other choices, unless their going to be like WoC chariots, which I highly doubt. __________________ Rumours of rumours??? thats warseer "I could have died"! "Looks like you lost this game in the "purchase models" phase." Armies that are done: 2k high elves Armies in progress: Skaven, Vampire Counts "Alright, your vampire just died. Roll for crumble." "...hah! You've fallen into my trap!..." My Eshin spies prevail again. Last edited by Vermin-thing; 31-10-2009 at 11:12.

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Ramius4 Veteran Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary I'd love to see one of two things... Bestigors getting either T5 OR Chaos armor as standard equipment. Make them worth taking.

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Ultimate Life Form Chapter Master Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,872 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary Has there ever been a precedent of a model jumping the border between gaming systems!? Because as an avid Mordheim player I'd like to know how the chances are of the Thing in the Woods making it into the Beasts book. How believable are these rumors? Though it's quite fitting to class it as a Special Character, as that's pretty much what it's in Mordheim as well: a mythic creature that hides out in the woods, attacking anyone who would dare enter... By the way, its real name is Balewolf. __________________ Yes, against all likelihood, the Enchanted SHIELD counts AS A SHIELD. No, Skink Chiefs CANNOT fire Stegadon Howdah Weapons with their BS! Use the Search Function! Or simply read the Rules! Aaaargh!!! ULF's Orthography Class Lesson #1: Cavalry, Slann, Drakenhof. Last edited by Ultimate Life Form; 30-10-2009 at 06:45.

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Devil Tree Librarian Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 482 iTrader: (0)	Re: Beasts of Chaos Rumour Summary I think what Bestigors really need, is for them to have the ability to move through woods and 2 attacks as standard. It fits the glass cannon ethos of the army and doesn’t make them too expensive point wise. By the way, does anyone know if we’re going to get any new infantry units? When rumors first started trickling in (around the time of the WoC book) I remember hearing about things like half spawn freaks and ungors with slings but nothing lately.

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