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People should feel free to post and discuss anything that they hear, regardless of the source, but the Summary will only ever include those rumours which I feel deserve to be here. General info Release is February 2010, after Tyranids, with advance orders starting January 4th. There will be a preview in WD362. Was to be written by Andy Hoare, but he has since quit Games Workshop. Believed to have been finished by Jeremy Vetock. The name of the book has changed from "Beasts of Chaos" to "Beastmen". The cover art is below. Rules Army-wide Special Rules, Magic Lores, and Magic Items Ambush is supposedly staying much the same, though it has been suggested that it will no longer be dependant on the General. No news on Unruly. An "all new magic lore" (singular) has been promised, believed to be an entirely new "Lore of the Dark Forest". Alongside Magic Items, "Mutations" will be available in the same way as WoC Gifts or Vampire Powers, operating on the same budgetary lines. Bonuses, like Scaly Skin, extra Strength and Movement are expected, as well as more esoteric abilities like Breath Weapons. Multiples of the same Mutation are expected to be allowed. The traditional marking system may have been scrapped, in keeping with the less obvious devotion to the Godly "cults" of Chaos. *Note, army-list slots are representative only until more solid rumours appear* Lords & Heroes Beastlord/Wargor – Ld 9, T5, with appropriate price hikes. May take Chaos Armour. May be accompanied by a 'pet' Revered Beast Spawn. Great Bray-Shaman/Bray-Shaman – Beast Spawn as above, access to new Lore. No other news. Doombull– A metal box set release is confirmed; it is assumed that the Doombull will still allow Minotaurs as Core. Centigor Hero - Aside from the Centigor Special Character, it has been rumoured that there will be a Centigor character available as a standard Hero choice. Core Beast Herds - Initially comprised entirely of Gors, with Ungors as optional additions (in a similar manner as Kroxigor in a Skink unit, though obviously with a different usage). Ranking issues are fixed. Foe-Renders will no longer provide +1Ld. Ungor Herd - A seperate Ungor unit, known to have short bows available to it. Bestigor Herds – New Plastic Models (see below). Warhounds - Varieties of Warhounds allowed through upgrades - Hunting, Guarding, etc. Centigor Herd – Moved to Core. Fast Cavalry. Special Tuskgor Chariots – Believed to be a 2-4-1 choice. Minotaurs – New plastic models. Access to Shields, Additional Handweapons, Great Weapons and a Musician. Still Core with Doombull. The only "Ogre-Sized" infantry in the list. Razorgor - The previously mentioned "Gruulgor". A single metal model, similar in appearance to a warthog. Possibly a large Tuskgor. Rare Chaos Giant – As in WoC book. Spawn – Assumed to be as in WoC book. Possibility of slight changes with regards to "Marks". Gorgon – A new monster, based around the Catoblepas. Chariot-base, with Movement 8 and stats in the 5s, with Impact Hits and a Breathweapon. No model has been reported. Special Characters All the Special Characters from the last book will return in this one. New ones talked about include: - A Centigor character by the name of Ghorros Warhoof, with special Drunken rules and a magical Great Weapon. As his name suggests, he has hooves rather than claws. - A Bray-Shaman by the name of "Malagor the Dark Omen", with a feather-lined cloak. - A Minotaur character dragging a Herdstone that allows him to cast spells. May be a Champion upgrade. - A Daemon Prince. May have Bloodthirster-level stats. Possibly Nurgle/Slaanesh marked. - A Foe-Render character with the +1Ld of the old book, among other things. - The Thing From The Woods, a giant Warhound/Spawn from Mordheim. Models and Army Book No pics yet. Work by Aly Morrison and Mark Harrison. Releases rumoured are: * New Beastlord and Bray-Shaman models. * Special Characters Malagor and Ghorros have generic models at unknown prices. * Metal Doombull Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. One model, £25. * Metal Razorgor Box. One new model, £15. * Plastic Bestigor Box. Ten models, £25. * Plastic Minotaur Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. 3 models, with options for greatweapons, two handweapons, and shields. £27. * Ungors and Gors are being resculpted and split up into seperate plastic boxes, at £15 for 10 models each. * The Tuskgor Chariot is receiving a new product code as a metal box at £18. This doesn't mean it's receiving a new model. * The same applies to Centigors, who are now a metal box at £35. * The Battalion will consist of 20 Gor, 10 Ungor, and 10 Bestigor, and costs £55. If you intend to start BoC, I'd advise you to do so before the release, as Gor and Ungor (their basic troops) are becoming 67% more expensive. Snap up those Beast Herds!
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Well I can confirm a February release with Advance Orders starting January 4th.
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Thanks for putting this up.
Just to give some insight from Warhammer Online I know some dont like it but they have made alot of effort to follow the existing fluff and in some cases develop it. Chaos troll don't seem to have any association with BoC at all and seem mainly limited ( in game) to Troll country which seems to put them in the WoC camp. Similarly Dragon Ogres only occur in large numbers in the Chaos Wastes. Again with no association with beasts. This is in contrast with Mino's and centigors who are encounted along side beasts quite often.
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>Special
>Tuskgor Chariots – Thought to be only one per special. I think it was GOC on herdstone (though i could be way off knowing my memory) who pretty solidly suggested that chariots were 2/slot |
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Can I get some clarification on the Andy Hoare/not Andy Hoare issue?
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Last edited by Revlid; 29-10-2009 at 21:29. |
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Well Andy Hoare no longer works for Games Workshop.
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Chapter Master
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There's also rumours of a corrupted tree (dark heart type thing) being available. I'll try to look through the herdstone and add in the rumours we've gotten there.
Here's one from Harry hough I don't have the post it originally came from: edit: The Herdstone rare HAS to be more of a wishlist item than the corrupted tree. Lugging a herdstone to combat flat out makes zero sense... edit2: Harry confirmed that Andy Hoare left the company before the book was finished, so someone else is the author.
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http://s2.invisionfree.com/herdstone Last edited by decker_cky; 29-10-2009 at 22:32. |
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Nice Info; does anyone have anything about changes made to the marks, and magic?
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According to GoC, marks are very similar to WoC.
If someone feels like digging, there's a few Herdstone threads you can dig through: http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=17473 http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=17449 http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...howtopic=16535 That's the source of most of the stuff in the first post, and contains more details in a lot of places.
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I am pretty excited for the book. They'll go along wonderfully with my marauder styled Warriors of Chaos. Guess I can start getting some boxes of gors and get going on this baby!
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About the chariots, been digging in the heardstone, the rumors point towards 1-2 per special choice. Why do I think this is solid? Well, at 1/choice I fail to see how they will be competitive at all compared to the other choices, unless their going to be like WoC chariots, which I highly doubt.
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Chapter Master
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Has there ever been a precedent of a model jumping the border between gaming systems!?
Because as an avid Mordheim player I'd like to know how the chances are of the Thing in the Woods making it into the Beasts book. How believable are these rumors? Though it's quite fitting to class it as a Special Character, as that's pretty much what it's in Mordheim as well: a mythic creature that hides out in the woods, attacking anyone who would dare enter... By the way, its real name is Balewolf.
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Librarian
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I think what Bestigors really need, is for them to have the ability to move through woods and 2 attacks as standard. It fits the glass cannon ethos of the army and doesn’t make them too expensive point wise.
By the way, does anyone know if we’re going to get any new infantry units? When rumors first started trickling in (around the time of the WoC book) I remember hearing about things like half spawn freaks and ungors with slings but nothing lately. |
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