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Apocalypse Reloaded
Brimstone  20/06/2008 - 17:16   
Thanks to Kaldanesh for these pictures taken from freebooters.org we have the index page from Apocalypse Reloaded.

Warseer discussion is here.

Citadel Collectors Range
Brimstone  15/06/2008 - 08:03   
GW are releasing a range of direct only 'collectors' models, we have this quote from dienekes96

Warseer discussion is here.

Originally Posted by dienekes96
Collector's Range:
This interested me a lot. Talked a bit to Ted Williams (more from him later), and it's just special minis being released because they are cool or fill a small gap. Quite a few new ones there. All will be released in the next 18 months:

Mat ?:
Tau Ejected Battlesuit Pilot
Kroot Shaper (very good)

Mike Anderson:
Warrior Priest resting on his hammer

?:
Ammo Runts for fantasy

Juan Diaz:
Blood Angels Captain
Space Wolf with Bolter
Space Wolf with ancient twin lightning claws




Codex Space Wolves
Brimstone  15/06/2008 - 06:22   
Codex Space Wolves is due for release in 2009 (date TBC) it will be a full codex as befits the sons of Russ.

These pictures taken at Baltimore GD by Dakka's dienekes96 are not from that release but are adhoc releases as part of GW's new release policy.





5th Edition - Imperial Marine codex rumours
Brimstone  01/06/2008 - 08:59   
OK we are now getting rumours for the next Space marine codex due out later this year (estimated September/October 2008)

Warseer discussion is here.

First of all thanks to Bolter&Chainsword for these:

Quote OK people, the dex is back from the printers and it's a real peach! Base rules written Jervis, trimmings written by Matthew Hoggard I think his name is.

The info bellow is 100% taken from a final print new SM dex.

Codex
144 pages. (twice he size of the necron dex)
Written by Jervis + Matt
Cover art of Ultramarines
Section for each of the Chapters of Legend (like Eldar Craftworlds in C:Eldar) but without any in-game rules.

General Marine Rules
Combat Squads works as codex Dark angels. 1 Heavy 1 special.
New marine rule, based on Ld, called Comabt tactics.
New Drop pod rule.
Traits dissapear.
Free frag grenades, krak grenades and bolt pistols.

Unit Rules
new techmarine rules has a new option in the form of the thunderfire
Master of the forge, has a conversion beamer.
new land raider variant, called the Redeemer with Str 6 AP3 flamer sponsons and twin linked assault cannon. Sallies like this and the colour section has one in sallies colours.
3 Dread variants. Again sallies seem to favour the new Ironclad Dread which is like a heavy assault/breaching dread. (AV13)
New Veteran rules - Tactical Vets (special ammo like death watch.), and Assault vets (can have jump packs and an assaulted array of nasty CC weapons) can deep strike and assault in the same turn.
Scout bikers will remain.
No two special weapons even for Sallies .
5 man terminator squads 1 heavy.
Commander in terminator armour on a bike or has a jump pack has no bearing on army selection. However special characters do.
Rites of battle is gone. But marine captain get Halos

Special Characters
11 specials which add chapter traits to your army, Calgar, Tigirius, Lysander, Shrike, Kronos, Sicarius, Kantor, Tu'Shan (WTF really hard guy probably the best SM charater in the game but at 200+ points...), Cassius, White Scar guy and scout character, all will have models.

Other Stuff
Drop pod kit looks similar to the forgworld kit but is hollow with seats around the edges and a control table in the middle. Storm bolter come down from the ceiling of the pod when deployed.
Drop pod kit priced about the same as rhino's (£18)
Codex release date is October
Plastic LR redeemer/crusader
Plastic Scout bikers, imaging scouts on scrambler bikes!
Retooled Plastic Land speeder + another new varient which works with scout squads call land speeder storm.
Scouts have helfire heavy bolter rouns but are WS and BS 3 and are still troops
Thunderfire a thuddgun/molemortar cross.
New metal range (I think more metal vets!..... again.... mmmm jump packs!)
New Sicarus now has hair and a beard! *shrugs* go figure!
Razor back has may weapon option, twin heavy bolter, Heavy Flamers, Assault Cannons, Multimelta, Lascannon, and Lascon and twin plasma guns.
New HQ units.

Marines are now what you may call pretty hard!

HQ

Specials
Captain
Master of the forge
Librarians
Chaplains

ELITES

Terminators
Vanguard Vets (tact vets)
??? Vets (assault vets)
Dreadnough
Venerable Dreadnought
Iornclad Dreadnought
Techmarines - Thunderfire

TROOPS

Tactical Marines
Scouts

TRANSPORTS

Rhino
Razorback
Drop Pod
Land Speeder Strom (Scouts only)

ASSAULT

Assault Marines
Bikes
Scout Biks
Attack Bikes
Landspeeder

HEAVY SUPPORT

Preadator
Devastators
Vindicator
Wirlwind
Land Raider
Land Raider Crusader
Land Raider Redeemer
Second we have these additional rumours from the Bell of Lost Souls.

Quote Hi guys,

We have heard these whispers on the wind regarding the upcoming Space Marine Codex and minis:

The "Big Gun" the techmarine can get is called a Thunderfire Cannon and it's aesthetically a throwback to the old Thudd gun. The model is very Adeptus Mechanicus looking. Huge tracks with a quad barreled gun. The techmarine operator is looking up with a controller in his hands. His servo harness has reversed arms with the flamer and plasma on top. The left servo arm holds a "quick reload" of four shells and a single shell is in the other.

An Ultramarine Tank commander special character is coming that appears in two versions. One for putting in your tank and one on foot. He has a bare head and a helmeted head that looks like a Mk3 helmet. Rules are unknown.

The Land Raider will now be one unified kit that makes the three variants. The sponsons have larger armor coverings for the Crusader's Hurricane bolters and the Redeemer's Inferno cannons. The Reedemer has two inferno cannons and twin-linked assault cannons. There are revised frag-assault launchers for Crusader and Redeemer; angled to be pointing forward, not the 45 degrees upwards like the current ones are. The Inferno cannons are modeled as huge, over sized heavy flamers, similar to an upscaled version of the Forgeworld siege dreadnought variant.

Power of the Machine Spirit rule allows Land Raiders to move 6" and fire all their guns.

Scout bikes are slightly smaller than the standard marine bikes but use the same tires. They have small front fenders that only cover the top and back of the tire. There is no trim on the handlebar canopy and the riders are like the plastic scouts. The scout bikes are covered in gear including a big shotgun holster mounted on the front forks.

The land speeder has been re-cut to make it easy to assemble without clamping. The sides are separate pieces and all the bits for variants are on the sprue now. It looks like you get some extra heads on the sprue as well.

Pedro Cantor has a powerfist and a stormbolter mouted like a greyknight on his other wrist. He's kinda leaping sidways firing the SB. There is a belt feed for the SB going to his backpack. He has a mk7 helmet.

There is an Ultramarine scout vet. sergeant who's bald with a beard, armed with a bolter and another Ultramarine special character captain who's an homage to the old Ultramarine captain model (with the transverse plume on his helmet and a gladius).
Codex Imperial Guard Rumours
Brimstone  31/05/2008 - 10:51   
Rumoured for release in 2009 we have these rumours thanks to Dosadi

Warseer discussion is here.

Quote
Army wide special rule: I think it’s called Platoon Drill or something like that. Basically, units from the same platoon may ignore intervening squads when shooting. So enemy units targeted in this way do not receive the 4+ save. Apparently this only works if the Platoon command squad is alive and within 12” of the rest of the platoon. I’ve been told that this is just one of the abilities guard Platoons may get, but only as long as the chain of command is intact (whatever that means). So loosing your HQ Command Squad may be a really bad thing.

Doctrines are for sure gone (I think we all knew this), but have been replaced by more mutable platoons. Instead of Armoured fist squads you can buy Chimeras for a whole platoon. Or buy the whole platoon grav-chutes to give them deep strike, or drop the heavy weapons from squads and give the platoon Scout. Veteran squads become upgrades to platoons (i.e. they are not elites anymore).

Apparently infantry platoons let you attach certain types of support vehicles to them(kinda like back in second edition). Things like sentinels, hellhounds and demolishers can be attached to platoons. They still take up a FOC spot, but become part of the platoon and so will benefit from the Platoon Drill rule.

The Leman Russ can be bought as a squadron so you can get 3 for a single FOC. They can not be attached to platoons however.

Sniper Squads can now infiltrate, get stealth, range finders and all models in the squad have sniper rifles (and BS 4!).

Like the Land Raider, a new plastic sprue for the Leman Russ has been made that will allow plastic demolishers and a 3rd variant (my money is on the Exterminator).

The Baneblade in NOT in the new codex. It just doesn’t work (i.e. overpowered)in games that are not Apocalypse in size.

However Stormtrooper squads can now take Valkyries as transports. Both will be getting a plastic kit. Valkyries follow the rules for skimmers I’ve been told. Again, they want to keep flyers and super heavies out of “normal games” but give people the ability to use them with all the special rules in Apocalypse and Planet-strike (if the ever get around to that.)

This last one makes me wonder what’s they are doing, but apparently there is a new HQ in the book; Inquisitor and Retinue much like the elites from the current Daemon Hunters/Witch Hunters books.
Assault on Black Reach (5th Edition Starter set)
Brimstone  28/05/2008 - 10:47   
Due out in September 2008 (You should be able to buy them at UKGD) we have the new 5th edition starter set called 'Assault on for Black Reach'

The two forces will be Ultramarines & Orks; they will not be balanced 40K armies but are designed to teach the fundamentals of 5th edition.

This is part of the box art (the full picture is landscape)



The box set is said to contain the following plastic models, these will all be of the simplified 'snap together' type.

Space Marines
These are rumoured to have sculpted Ultramarine Iconography on them.
  • Captain - W/Power Sword & Bolter he has hair & a bionic eye
  • Dreadnought - W/Multi Melta & Close Combat Weapon
  • 5 Man Terminator Squad - Unknown if it has a heavy weapon included.
  • 10 Man Tactical Squad - Will probably have a sgt, heavy & special weapon but details are TBC
Orks
  • Warboss with a custom shoota & power Klaw
  • 2 x Shoota Boyz Mobz (may also include some big shootas)
  • 1 x Nobz mob said to have slugga & Choppa's
  • 3 x DeathKoptas w/rokkits.
This is a picture of the Warboss & Deathkoptas, thanks to the Da Waaagh forum



Terrain
We have no information on terrain at the moment with rumours ranging from cityfight sprues to a couple of basic barricades.
Given the emphasis on cover in the new edition none would be a surprise.

Other information
There WILL be a mini rulebook included with the exact same rules as the hardback but none of the background or hobby information.

The new GW laser pointer was rumoured to be included at some point but this appears not to be the case as it is available separately.

For further information & discussion please check Spacemonkey's excellent and regularly updated thread here.
new doomwheel
Sylass  11/05/2008 - 15:24   
Thanks to Milgram for a picture of the upcoming doomwheel.

Puplic stoning here.
New Limited Edition Bugman
Sylass  28/04/2008 - 09:10   
Thanks to turelhim vampire for a picture of what is supposed to be a new limited Josef Bugman miniature.

Discussion here.
Zombie Pirates uppdated with new pictures
Sylass  20/03/2008 - 17:18   
Thanks to Swifty for the following pictures of these unreleased Zombie Pirates miniatures.

Discussion here.
Lizardmen
Sylass  18/02/2008 - 21:27   
Thanks to GeOrc for what looks like a new green of "Oxayotl", one of the Skink special characters.

A possible explanation why there's a "new" Lizardmen miniature now:
Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post
Following the discussion in the 40k forum, there is an easy (and boring) explanation for this miniature:
It is the Spanish GW Games Day. Juan Diaz is the Spanish sculptor of these miniatures. All miniatures are officially unreleased but sometimes many years old (like the SM character and the Farseer) and some even unofficially released (sold on ebay). So all these miniatures including the lizard are just a showroom for the work of the national GW sculptor. No new lizardman (or Eldar, or Blood Angels) release in the near future. Sorry to shatter some hopes here.


Discussion here.
Codex Dark Eldar
Brimstone  18/02/2008 - 12:02   
With the codex due for release in 2009 (probably) we have these images of new Dark Eldar models taken at GW Spain.

Edit - Update these may well be 'test' models for new sculptors and not production models intended for release



Warseer discussion is here.
Hordes of Chaos army book rumours
Avian  12/02/2008 - 12:22   
The book is due in November 2008. It will focus on the mortal followers of the chaos gods, with more unit choices than currently, and no(?) daemons. It may or may not include things like Dragon Ogres, Ogres and Trolls.

The name of the book is supposedly: Warriors of Chaos


Probable new models
- Plastic Chaos Knights
- Plastic Chariots
- Metal Chaos Lord
- Metal(?) Chaos Sorcerer
- Plastic Warhounds
- Unknown number of new metal models, including at least one new special character


How does this list combine with the recent Daemons of Chaos list and the Beast of Chaos list (due for an update in 2009)?
Unknown. Supposedly all new books are stand-alone, though that might simply mean that you don't need more than one book. There is also this rumour:
"Allying with Beasts of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos is possible, but requires Magic Items. Chalice of Chaos (?) allows you to take some Daemonic units as Special, and Totem of Chaos (?) allows you to take some Beast units as Special."


Marks of Chaos
- no more Mark of Chaos Undivided, though the entire army may get the rule where they get to re-roll failed psychology tests (which was the effect of the old Undivided Mark).
- generally Marks appear to be getting cheaper and the effect of the same Mark varies more depending on which unit it is given to. So the Mark of Khorne might do very different things on a Chaos Lord compared to what it does on a Chaos Warrior, a Cultist or a Spawn.


Lords

Chaos Lord

Exalted Sorcerer

Daemon Prince


Heroes
- unknown if there will be any new Hero-level characters, such as a Marauder Chieftain, a Cultist leader, a near-Spawn character, a lesser Daemon character or whatever

Exalted Champion

Aspiring Champion

Sorcerer


Core units

Chaos Warriors
- presumably the boxed set stays the same for the moment
- all units get Chaos armour, not just Chosen
- normal Warriors might get WS6 and/or 2 Attacks, or they might have the same stats as now
- cheaper in the temporary list, unknown price in the book
- presumably all units can get a magic standard
- Chosen Warriors might be a separate entry (and possibly also separate models). Unknown which improvements they get

Marauders
- presumably the boxed set stays the same for the moment
- cheaper??
- still no option for Marks

Warhounds
- new plastic boxed set

Cultists
- new unit, presumably metal models
- very similar to the guys who ran around as a warband in Mordheim
- human statline (i.e. WS3, S3, T3, I3, Ld7)
- options for additional hand weapon, shield or flail
- may be given a mark at unknown cost. Effects are essentially the same as lesser Daemons get in the Daemons book
--Mark of Tzeentch: 6+ Ward save
--Mark of Khorne: Hatred
--Mark of Nurgle: Poisoned attacks
--Mark of Slaneesh: Always Strike First


Unknown if Core or Special
Marauder Horsemen
- no plastic set at the moment


Special units
- Allegedly there are three new Special units: "Marauders, Mutants, and Mutant Marauders", though the rumours are hazy (for one there are no rumours for mutant marauders, while there are rumours for big Ogre-sized nasties)

Chaos Knights
- new plastic boxed set
- cheaper in the temporary list, unknown price in the book
- might get option for lances and/or other options
- Chosen might be a separate unit entry (and possibly also separate models). Unknown which improvements they get

Chaos Chariot
- new plastic boxed set
- cheaper in the temporary list, unknown price in the book
- 2 per Special in the temporary list, unknown in the book

"Ogre Mutants" / "Chaos Brutes" / "Beastkin" (rumoured new unit)
- around 30 points for a model with stats essentially identical to an Ogre
- you may give them ONE upgrade costing around 15-25 points (presumably per model).
--Minotaur-ish: +1 WS and LD
--Unknown: +1 Strength and Attacks
--Troll-ish: -2 LD and Regeneration
--Dragon Ogre-ish: +1 Movement and a scaly skin save

Forsaken
- very little known, but apparently a unit of Chaos Warriors that are on their way to getting a bit too many mutations for their own good
- probably somewhat similar to Possessed in the 40K Chaos list

Some kind of special-ops Marauder unit??? (rumoured new unit)


Rare units

Chaos Giant

Hellcannon
- can't get daemonic gifts
- rumoured to be only 1 Rare choice

Spawn
- presumably still 2 per Rare
- Marks are rumoured to have effects similar to what the Cultists get. Possibilities:
--Mark of Tzeentch: 6+ Ward save
--Mark of Khorne: Hatred
--Mark of Nurgle: Poisoned attacks
--Mark of Slaneesh: Always Strike First
Skaven army book rumours
Avian  12/02/2008 - 12:19   
Probably due for release early in 2009, though this is speculation.
WHFB 25th Anniversary & Limited edition "Harry the Hammer"
Sylass  19/01/2008 - 10:44   
A few rumours and info bits about the 25th anniversary of Warhammer Fantasy:

Quote April: WFB 25th Anniversary
Originally Posted by Hagraz View Post
In WD issue 338 on page 13 there is a picture of the cover of the first Warhammer rule book.
Aly Morrison is currently working on a special edition miniature of "Harry the Hammer", the dwarf on the cover of the first edition of WFB.
To honour the classic and iconic image of the rule book.
and in celebration of WFB's 25 birthday
Originally Posted by Harry View Post
'Harry the Hammer' is not a Dwarf. He is a Chaos Warrior.

Cheers.
Harry

Edit: Also it was not the rulebook. It was the box art.
The first edition was three rulebooks in a box.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post
Also the model has been finished for some time, and the model is not based on that artwork. There is a new piece of artwork based on the old piece, the new one has been used to create the model.

There is also an Orc model for the release of Warhammer Online.
The 'Harry the Hammer' related discussion thread can be found here.
5th Edition rumour roundup
Brimstone  02/01/2008 - 11:26   
5th Edition Rumour roundup

‘5th’ edition 40K is due for release in 2008 although we have conflicting reports about the release date, it’s going to be either summer or more probably autumn (GDUK 08).

There will be a new rulebook and new starter set which will be Orks vs marines, it will include both troops and vehicles (a marine dreadnought is likely and possibly others). The 3up grot seen at UKGD ’07 is also for the starter box.

Rumoured rules amendments

1. the addition of a ‘run’ option (similar to fleet but with a trade off to keep fleet special).
2. Improvements to the cover save rules.
3. Rending toned down (rending i.e. auto wound/no armour save on a 6 to wound & reduction in effectiveness against vehicles).
4. Template(Blast) weapons rules streamlined.
5. Sniper weapons rules amended (rending probable)
6. Close combat rules amended with a combat resolution phase similar to fantasy
7. Single vehicle damage table.
8. Vehicles without a WS in CC always get hit in the rear armour.
9. Vehicles able to ram
10. Other vehicle amendments
11. Mission rules changed in a similar manner to Apocalypse (no more Alpha, Gamma or Omega).
12. Only non vehicle non swarm troop choices are scoring units (Note I did not say infantry)
13. Vehicles types are adjusted (the rumoured skimmer nerf)

Overall the ruleset hasn’t changed dramatically but areas have been clarified, streamlined and in some cases brought closer to 2nd edition.

I’ll add to the list as we hear more. Don’t forget these are rumours and should not be treated as the truth.
Citadel Collectors range
Sylass  22/12/2007 - 17:25   
Thanks to Kodamas for this find: a few additions to the "Citadel Collectors range".



Discussion here.
Chaos Daemons army book rumours
Avian  07/11/2007 - 10:13   
Chaos Daemons army book

The book is out in May 2008, meaning that some stuff goes on sale late in April.

How will this army book interact with the Hordes and Beasts of Chaos army book?
It appears that it is a stand-alone book, similar to how the Daemonic Legion
list was and how the Daemon Codex for 40K has been confirmed to be.

What about the Daemons in the Hordes of Chaos book?
It would appear that these are used as they currently are until the Hordes book is redone in November this year. So for about six months there will be two sets of rules for Bloodletters, Daemonettes, etc.

How am I supposed to play a god-specific list now that I only have three different units and three different characters to choose from?
It appears at the moment that the idea will be that you can play god-specific lists (since each god had two Lords, one Hero, one Core unit, one Special unit and one Rare unit), but that it will be very limited and that the norm will be to play mixed armies.



New models

Bloodletter of Khorne on Juggernaut (box of 1 metal mini)
Bloodletters of Khorne (box of 10 plastic minis)
Daemonettes of Slaanesh (box of 10 plastic minis)
Flesh Hounds of Khorne (box of 5 metal minis?)
Fiends of Slaanesh (blister of 1 metal mini)
Beast of Nurgle (blister of 1 metal mini)
Plaguebearer command group (box of 3 metal minis)
The Masque, Herald of Slaanesh (blister of 1 metal mini)
Skulltaker, Herald of Khorne (blister of 1 metal mini)
Epidemius, Herald of Nurgle (blister of 1 metal mini)
Karanak, Flesh Hound champion (blister of 1 metal mini)
Herald of Khorne on Juggernaut (direct order only(?), 1 metal mini)

Daemon Spearhead box (32 minis)
- The army book
-10 Bloodletters
-10 Daemonettes
- 5 Fleshhounds
- 1 Bloodcrusher
- 1 Beast of nurgle
- 1 Fiend of slaanesh
- Epidemius
- The Masque
- Skulltaker
- Karanak



Models expected at some later date
- remaining five special characters (possibly not the greater daemon ones)
- plastic Horrors
- plastic Plaguebearers
- plastic Daemon Prince and/or Herald
- new Seekers of Slaanesh minis



Remember that no rumours of changes for a unit/character does NOT imply a rumour of no changes for it.



Army composition and special rules:
- Instability is altered somewhat, now there is no special effect of rolling above your basic Leadership, so you just take a modified break test and lose a number of wounds equal to the amount you failed the roll by.
- Supposedly, units within 12" of the army general may take their Daemonic Ward save against any kind of attacks, not just non-magical ones. Units more than 12" away from the general follow the current rules for Daemonic auras.
- The restrictions on not mixing followers of different gods unless your general is Undivided is almost certainly gone.
- The list of daemonic gifts will almost certainly be altered and extended, though it is not know by how much.
- As with all previous books in this edition, characters will almost certainly only take up a single character choice.


Signature special rules
Khorne: Killing blow, Hatred, Magic Resistance
Slaanesh: Armour piercing, Always strikes first
Nurgle: Poison, Regeneration
Tzeench: Magic, Flaming Attacks

Slaanesh has the overall best movement (anything apart from Daemonettes and Heralds on foot is M10), Khorne has a bit less than that and Nurgle and Tzeentch has human-level movement (though some units have M6 or can fly).


Daemon Lores of Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch
- Different from the ones in the other two chaos books.
- Almost certainly only useable by characters from this book.

Daemon Lore of Tzeentch
- Supposedly only 6 spells
#1: Flickering Fire of Tzeentch: D6+1 hits, Strength D6+1, 18" range, 4+
#2: Boon of Tzeentch: Gain d3+1 Power dice only the caster can use. 3+
#3: Glean Magic: Cast any enemy spell (other than one that creates new models, such as certain Undead spells) as a Bound spell with a power level equal to its basic casting level. 7+
#4: Gift of Chaos: Each enemy unit within 12", including units in combat, take D6 S6 hits. 9+
#5: Bolt of Change: D6 hits, Strength D6+4, 18" range, 12+
#6: Tzeentch Firestorm: Target unit takes 2D6 S5 hits, every 3 wounds caused creates a Horror. New unit is worth 50 VPs and placed within 3" of the target unit. 24" range, 13+


Daemon Lore of Slaanesh
#1: Enemy unit must test for Stupidity each turn for the rest of the game




Lords
- Greater daemons are supposedly more modifiable than currently, more resembling how they were in 5th edition. It is possible that the basic ones are weaker than currently, to make them more useable in smaller battles (i.e. at or just above 2k), but that they can be significantly improved, similar to the new Vampire Lord can be.
- It is probably not possible to buy outright stat boosts (+1 WS, S, etc.), if previous army books are anything to go by.
- Greater Daemons stat line is rumoured to have 5 wounds across the board, with a 5+ Ward.
- Rumours that Greater Daemons will go on bases four times as big as currently are nonsense. The models stay as they currently are.

Changer of Ways, Greater Daemon of Tzeentch
- Level 4 wizard
- Can take 100 pts of Daemonic gifts, including an additional head (the extra brain gives a +2 bonus to casting), Master of Sorcery (knows all spells from one Lore in the rulebook) and Tzeentch's Will (re-roll one D6 per turn)


Keeper of Secrets, Greater Daemon of Slaanesh
- Level 2 wizard, may be upgraded up to level 4
- Movement 10, WS9, S6, A6
- Always strikes first
- Can take 100 pts of Daemonic gifts, including Enrapturing Gaze (models in base contact cannot use any LD value other than their own), Temptator (enemy model in base contact must pass a Ld test or attack whomever the daemon wishes) and Siren Song (nominated enemy unit must either charge the daemon or flee)


Great Unclean One, Greater Daemon of Nurgle
- Level 2 wizard, may be upgraded up to level 4
- Weapon skill 4, Attacks 4
- Poisoned attacks
- Can take 100 pts of Daemonic gifts, including Balesword (wounds automatically, each unsaved wound is multiplied to D6), Nurgling Infestation (creates new Nurgling bases) and Trappings of Nurgle (armour save and Regeneration)

Bloodthirster, Greater Daemon of Khorne
- Not frenzied(!)
- WS10, S6, T6, A7
- Can take 100 pts of Daemonic gifts, including Awesome Strength (S10), Dark Insanity (2D6+2 attacks) and Spellbreaker (Dispel Scroll-equivalent)

Daemon Prince
- The most customisable Lord-level character
- Can take 75 pts of Daemonic gifts, out of which a max of 50 pts can be gifts specific to the Greater Daemons of their patron god (if they have one)
- They also have their own list of daemonic gifts
- All, apart from Khornate ones, can be wizards up to level 2
- Wings are an optional gift, though base Movement has increased


Heroes
- Chariots are only available as a mount for Heralds (apart from Nurgle who only get the Palanquin)
- There are no Undivided Heralds

Herald of Nurgle
- Poisoned attacks
- May ride a Palanquin of Nurgle
- The only Herald with no chariot option
- Grants the Regeneration special rule to Plaguebearer units he joins

Herald of Khorne
- May ride a Juggernaut of Khorne or a chariot pulled by Juggernauts
- Grants the Hatred special rule to Bloodletter units he joins
- Not frenzied

Herald of Slaanesh
- May ride a Steed of Slaanesh or a chariot pulled by Mounts of Slaanesh
- Grants the Always Strikes First special rule to Daemonette units he/she/it joins

Herald of Tzeentch
- May ride a Disk of Tzeentch or a chariot pulled by Screamers
- Grants Horror units he joins a 4+ aura save instead of the normal 5+ aura save


Mounts
- Juggernauts, Steeds of Slaanesh, Disks of Tzeentch and Palanquins of Nurgle all have *1* wound only, so count as cavalry mounts and cannot be killed separately.
- Statwise they also get weaker (Disks have one S3 attack, for example)
- Steeds of Slaanesh are essentially equivalent to the mounts of Mounted Daemonettes, NOT the Steeds that can be ridden by Chaos Mortal characters


Core
- Units do not get the Leadership boost they got in the Daemonic Legion list. Indeed, lesser Daemons are all Leadership 7 (apart from Furies)
- There is one unit type per god (plus Furies)

Bloodletters of Khorne
- New plastic models
- Start with MR1 and Killing Blow. Can get Hatred from a Herald of Khorne
- NOT Frenzied
- Movement 5
- Full command options

Daemonettes of Slaanesh
- New plastic models
- Worse, but cheaper and faster
- Movement 6, WS5, Strength 3
- Gain Armour Piercing
- Full command options

Plaguebearers of Nurgle
- New metal command models, possibly a plastic set at some later date
- Poisoned attacks. Can get Regeneration from a Herald of Nurgle.
- WS3, Strength 4, Toughness 4
- No more Cloud of Flies
- Full command options

Horrors of Tzeentch
- New metal command models, possibly a plastic set at some later date
- Do not cast Bound spells, instead the unit counts as a wizard with magic levels depending on the number of Horrors in the unit (1-5: lvl 0, 6-15: lvl 1, 16-25: lvl 2, etc).
- If the Horror unit miscasts, it takes D6 wounds
- Spells are set depending on the unit's level (lvl 1: spell #1 Flickering Fire of Tzeentch, lvl 2: spells #1+4, lvl 3: spells #1+4+5, lvl 4: spells #1+4+5+6)
- Improved WS, but lower Ld
- All attacks are flaming
- Noticeably cheaper
- Full command options

Chaos Furies
- Do not count towards minimum number of Core
- Strength 3, Leadership 2


Special
- There is one unit type per god

Nurglings
- Almost certainly no longer 0-1
- Scouts(!)
- Stat decrease (most stats are 3s, apart from M and Ld)
- Poisoned attacks replacing Cloud of Flies
- Unit size 3-12

Flesh Hounds of Khorne
- New metal models
- Not frenzied
- Higher Movement, Strength, Toughness, Wounds and Attacks
- Lower Leadership
- More than twice as expensive as before

Screamers of Tzeentch
- Strength3, T3, 1 wound
- Strength of slashing attacks up to 5, may make slashing attacks to all units they move over, not just one
- Slightly cheaper

Seekers of Slaanesh
- Equivalent to Mounted Daemonettes (i.e. the ones on cavalry bases), NOT Pleasureseekers (the daemonettes on Steeds of Slaanesh from the Storm of Chaos list)
- Full command options
- Cheaper (a unit with full command is slightly *cheaper* than an old unit with no command)


Rare
- There is one unit type per god

Bloodcrushers of Khorne (Bloodletters riding Juggernauts)
- New metal models
- Improved armour save (Juggers add +3 to the rider's armour save)
- Unit size 1-8?
- Rider has 2 wounds, the Jugger only counts as a cavalry mount.
- Rider has 1 more Strength and 1 more Attack than a regular Bloodletter
- Full command options

Beasts of Nurgle
- New metal models
- The models don't have riders
- Beasts have D6+2 poisoned attacks
- Regeneration and Slime Trail (opponents get no CR bonus for attacking them in the side or rear)
- 100 pts per model
- Unit size 1+

Fiends of Slaanesh
- New models
- Models go on 40 mm square bases
- Almost identical to old Pleasureseekers
- Special rule that forces enemy units breaking from combat with them roll an additional D6 for distance and discard the highest
- Only unit with Weapon Skill 4(!)
- Unit size 1+

Flamers of Tzeentch
- A separate unit, not longer hangers-on for a unit of Horrors
- Unit size 3-6
- Flame shooting is D6 S4 shots per Flamer, 18" range
- Close combat attacks go up in Strength and are flaming
- Option for champion



Special characters
- Note that the special characters are the same in both the 40K and the Fantasy lists, though naturally their stats and exact abilities may differ somewhat.
- Original rumour that there were 12 special characters appears to have been wrong. Possibly the source meant "a dozen", meaning "a whole lot" rather than "exactly twelve".
- Another reason for the high number of special characters is probably to get more variation into god-specific lists, who would otherwise look pretty much identical

Fateweaver, the Oracle of Tzeentch (Greater Daemon of Tzeentch)
- Model has two heads
- Knows all Tzeentch spells and each head also knows 4 spells from any of the lores (in the rulebook?)
- Some sort of re-roll ability (???)

Kugath, the Plaguefather (Greater Daemon of Nurgle)
- Has two special rules: Blessing of Pus and Nurgling Infestation

Skarbrand, the Exiled One (Greater Daemon of Chaos Undivided)
- Does not fly
- Otherwise very similar to a Bloodthirster statwise but without any Khornate gifts. Possibly he was exiled by Khorne and had his wings cut off.
- 40K version has a special rule called Burning Hatred

Tallyman Epidemius (Herald of Nurgle)
- Mounted on a Palanquin of Nurgle
- Poisoned attacks
- Gives a bonus to other Nurgle units depending on how many enemies he kills (sort of similar to Skrag, the Ogre special character)

The Masque (Herald of Slaanesh)
- Kicked out of Slaanesh's entourage for being able to out-dance his (her? its?) god
- Has a special rule in 40K called the Eternal Dance, which lets you move enemy units
- 3 human arms and a big claw arm. Wields a staff with a mask at either end and changes it's personality depending on who it chooses to be. See below for pictures

Skulltaker (Herald of Khorne)
- Character-killer
- See below for pictures
- Must challenge if able to
- Has deadlier form of Killing Blow (on a 5+ to wound in challenges and works regardless of Unit Strength of the victim)

The Bluescribes (Herald of Tzeentch)
- Two Horrors riding a Disk of Tzeentch, on a mission to recover some lost artefact

The Changeling (Horror champion)
- Formless Horror: At the start of close combat, the Changeling may select any enemy model in base to base contact and swap WS/S/T/I/A with this model (essentially a built-in van Horstman's Speculum)
- NOT an upgrade each and every Horror unit can take. As with any other Special character you can take ONE of it.

Karanak, Hound of Vengeance (Flesh Hound champion)
- Model has multple heads



Stuff removed from the list
- Exalted Daemons (use as Daemon Prince)
- Pleasureseekers of Slaanesh (use as Fiends or Seekers, possibly counting each model as two, or as Heralds)
- Plagueriders of Nurgle (use as Beasts of Nurgle, or as Heralds riding Palanquins)
- Changebringers of Tzeentch (use as Screamers, Heralds riding Disks or as unit fillers in Horror units)
- Daemon chariots as independent units (can now only be taken as mounts for Heralds)
Limited Edition Gamesday 2008 Miniature
Brimstone  22/10/2007 - 04:41   
Thanks to mks063 for bringing this to our attention and from the french GW website we have this green of the 'limited edition' GD model for 2008.

Warseer discussion is here.

Various pics taken at the "Spiel'07"
Sylass  21/10/2007 - 15:01   
A few pictures I took at the german gaming fair "Spiel'07" today:
Imperial Armour 6 DKoK / Chaos Thread
Brimstone  24/09/2007 - 15:42   
Thanks to Swifty who took these photos at UKGD2007 we have a preacher of Nurgle.

Warseer discussion is here.





New plastic Jetbike
Brimstone  24/09/2007 - 06:29   
New plastic jetbike created by Jes Godwin

First release may be for the upcoming shining spears due later this year.







Chaos plastics from GD UK 2007
Sylass  23/09/2007 - 16:28   
Thanks to philbrad2 for the following pictures.

Discussion here
Dark Elf army book rumours
Sylass  23/09/2007 - 16:28   
Dark Elf Army book rumours

Models
No plastic character set!
Witch Elves, Executioners, Shades and Black Guard get repackaged to sets of 5 metal models. No new models for them at the time being. Morathi and Shadowblade also get repackaged, no new models for them.

New stuff:
- Dreadlord (old Highborn) on foot and cold one (two different blisters)
- Supreme Sorceress (old High Sorceress) on foot and cold one (two different blisters)
- Corsairs, set of 10 plastic models
- Cold One Knights, set of 5 plastic models
- Hydra (metal box, new beast and new handlers)
- Lokhir Fellheart, new special character
- Assassins (3 different metal models, blister)
- Battalion box, 53 plastic models, exact contents not known, but likely guess is 28 warriors, 20 corsairs and 5 knights.
- Spearhead box, 22 models (both plastic sets, 2x Dreadlord, 2x Sorceress, Assassin, Lokhir, Hydra) plus army book. Listed as July 19th and priced at £112.


Army special rules and army composition
- Dark Elves are NOT getting Always Strike First rule as an army-wide rule (that is High Elves)
- All Dark Elves (but not mounts or monsters) gain +1 Attack in the turn they charge
- All Dark Elves (including mounts if not otherwise specified, as per the new Hatred rule) Hate all enemies
- Against High Elves, Dark Elves may re-roll failed to-hit rolls (for Hatred) in all rounds of combat, not just the first
- Dark Elves are probably not gaining the same army composition restrictions as High Elves (1 less Core, 2 more Special and Rare) and follow the same restrictions as before


Dark Magic
*FREE SPELL* 4+ to cast, generates D3+1 Power Dice that can only be used by caster. Any dice unused cause Strength 4 hit on the caster.

1 – Chillwind 5+ D6 Strength 4 hits. Any casualties prevent shooting.
2 - Doombolt 6+ D6 Strength 5 hits.
3 – Word of Pain 8+ Same as current
4 – Blade wind 8+ 3D6 WS4 S3 (?) attacks on unit within range (12”?).
5 – Soul Stealer 10+ 12” range, Each model takes Strength 2 hit, No Armour Saves. Wounds go to caster (no more than double).
6 – Black Horror 11+ Large template, Strength test or take a wound.



Lords
Old names in parentheses

Dreadlord (Highborn)
- two new metal models, foot and mounted on Cold One

Supreme Sorceress (High Sorceress)
- two new metal models, foot and mounted on Cold One


Heroes

Master (Noble)
- may ride a Manticore

Sorceress
- may ride a Black Pegasus

Death Hag
- may have a Cauldron of Blood for 110 pts
-- the Cauldron works more like an Anvil of Doom than anything else, it can move like war machines can, but cannot join units
-- Khanite units within 12" are Stubborn
-- Khainite units within 24" can get one of the following: 1) +1 Attack, 2) Killing Blow, 3) 5+ Ward save



Manticore
- must pass Leadership test each turn or become Frenzied.
- if rider is killed, automatically counts as having rolled the Hatred + Frenzy result on the Monster Reaction table
- counts as an extra Hero choice



Core

Warriors
- six points with spear and light armour. May buy shields as before.
- may take magic banners up to 25 pts

Crossbowmen
- ten points basic, plus 1 pt for shields
- gain armour piercing

Dark Riders
- cheaper
- champ supposedly gets both +1 BS and +1 A
- not likely to get a new set of plastic models anytime soon

Corsairs
- new set of plastic models!
- unit finally gets some options again. They come with two hand weapons and may replace one with a repeater handbow (a repeater crossbow with 8" range and the pistol rule, essentially) for free.
- the champ may have a second handbow, giving him 4x multiple shots
- may take magic banners up to 25 pts

Harpies
- don't count towards minimum number of Core, but no longer 0-1
- can use the General's Leadership and don't cause Panic in friendly units
- cheaper?

Assassin
- new metal model(s)?
- an upgrade for certain units, costing 90 pts. May take Gifts of Khaine


Special

Executioners
- pretty much as before (still have Killing Blow, for instance)

Black Guard
- no longer Rare
- increase in WS?
- almost certainly not 0-1

Witch Elves
- slightly cheaper

Chariots
- no longer 1-2 per Special choice

Shades
- WS 5, BS 5
- may have additional hand weapons or great weapons, may also have light armour

Cold One Knights
- new set of 5 plastic models
- cold ones back up to 2 attacks each?
- re-introduction of a magic banner that negates Stupidity?


Rare

Reaper Bolt Throwers
- still 1-2 per Rare

Hydra
- new (metal) model
- gains Regeneration
- handlers get 2A basic and additional hand weapons with armour piercing
- handlers cannot be attacked in close combat(?)
- cheaper





Special characters
- probably something like six different ones, the list below is more or less speculation

Malekith

Morathi
- new model or old one repackaged

Lohir Fellheart
- gets a mini, unknown what sort of character he is

Shadowblade
- new model or old one repackaged

Malus Darkblade?

Hag Queen Hellebron???

Kouran, Captain of the Black Guard???




Thanks to philbrad2 for the picture of the new DE Cold One.

Discussion here
Ork Rumour Thread
t-tauri  23/09/2007 - 13:50   
Thanks to Kaine here at Games Day some new Ork stuff.
Next Armies (look here before asking)
Maximus Lucifer  18/09/2007 - 17:30   
Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post
VC are next WFB release after HE, that is that, no grey areas at all. DE should be after that, then other projects being worked on are Skaven, DE, and Chaos (both Daemons & Mortals), and I was told a long time ago that CD would come back in 2009. It is really too early to accurately predict the order as it depends on so many variables, i.e. design, sculpting, casting, painting, rules/army book writing, playtesting, market forces etc.

IF I had to guess I would look at it being similar to this (this IS JUST A GUESS!)

HE - Oct/Nov 07
VC - Mar/Apr 08
DE - Jul/Aug 08
Chaos - Q4 08
Skaven - Q1 09
CD - 09

Although I wouldn't be surprised to see DE & Chaos trade places.

I am reliably told that the one book for WFB & W40k Daemons is inaccurate, it was a format that was considered, but it was decided it would require too much compromise and be ultimately too clumsy to pull off. I expect WFB & W40k Daemons to be released at the same time, but with seperate Army Book & Codex resapectively.



I am now certain that DE & Chaos will switch places on that list though.
And this one belongs to harry

Originally Posted by Harry View Post
2007
November: High Elves

2008
January: Orks
February: Lord of the Rings : Serpents
March: Vampire Counts
April: Lord of the Rings : Mordor
May: Daemons
please people lets try keep this discussion clean and not start with whats typical like "that wont happen because X factor is not part of the Y factor wich makes Z totally stupid"
Baltimore Games Day News
Sylass  16/07/2007 - 17:56   
Most of this isn't completely new, but I just felt like adding all these fantasy related pictures from the official Baltimore GD Coverage to the Rumour Roundup.

Not sure what the Ogre sized FW stuff is supposed to be...

*edit*
It seems the Ogres are for 40k (Renegade Ogryn Berserker for/from Imperial Armour 5: The siege of Vraks)...nevertheless they'd probably look cool in a Chaos Dwarf/Chaos or Skaven army. Thanks to reds8n for pointing that out.
The Apocalypse Thread
Brimstone  30/06/2007 - 06:57   
Codex Apocalypse is the latest 40K expansion set (in a similar fashion to cities of death) this thread is a compilation of the rumoured rules and miniatures due for release.

First up of course is the plastic Baneblade, expected to cost around £50 and is GW's first 'super-heavy' release. It takes inspiration from the FW model but unlike the earlier Tau releases is not a direct copy.

Warseer discussion is here.

Watchman #2 Rumour compilation
Sylass  02/05/2007 - 18:45   
In case you haven't had a chance to read the new issue of the Watchman:

Quote WORD ON THE STREET
FROM THE WATCHMAN

WHAT NEW STUFF IS OUT BEFORE THE NEXT WATCHMAN?

APRIL
We get the new, all plastic, army boxes for both Orcs and Goblins and the Dwarf Army this month. An absolute stack of plastic for your money.
But I don’t expect to see the Empire box until June.

MAY
We get the magnificent Black Orc plastics, Black Orc Big Boss, Gorbad, the Trolls and the Giant cave squig.

JUNE
Empire Army Box and a Battalion Box
New metal Dwarf Lords and the plastic Miners.
All the Terrain including Hills, Trees, walls/fences and the Buildings.
(including the big ‘Village’ and the ‘Fortified manor’ sets).

JULY
The Mighty Empires Box set. (available to pre-order from 9th June.)
Various Empire releases. (Flaggellants/Wizards/Helblaster)
Also a reinforcement Battalion splash release.

WHATS NEXT FOR WARHAMMER FANTASY BATTLE

I still don’t have a date for you but I am confident we will see them this side of Christmas. If I had to bet pie on it I would say we will see the first releases in November with the main release in December (just in time for Christmas shopping). Elves and Christmas just seem to go hand in hand, don’t they?.

I still think that the Undead will be next after the High Elves but this will clearly be next year. I am thinking 6 months after the High Elves. I am also still confident that Dark Elves will be after that (they are approximately 12 months away).

SET IN STONE FOR THE DWARVES

For anyone who has not followed the sad saga of the plastic dwarf Lord kit I promised you last time, here is the deal. The short version of events is that the mould was dropped and broken. So, as an alternative, those kind fellows at Games Workshop made us some beautiful new metal dwarf Lords instead. These will appear very soon.

There will be a Lord (with 2 handed axe), A lord, on an oath stone, (leaning on Hammer and shield) and a Battle Standard Bearer. Without trying to describe each in detail, they are sculpted to ‘match’ the new Dwarf plastics. And they really are very nice.

I also understand that the intention is still to re-make the Plastic mould again at some point in the future so it’s good news all around in the end.

On top of these beauties, Dwarf collectors also get a real treat. As if the “Bugman’s Bar only” Josef Bugman wasn’t enough to grace our display cabinets, for the 30th Birthday Bash the Dwarves get another fantastic mini. As many of you will have heard by now this will be a mini of The White Dwarf carried on a shield, with Gotrek & Bugman as his shield bearers.

The Plastic Flame Cannon is on the way, but don’t hold you breath for plastic Slayers. I have still been unable to get any conformation of this rumour so I suspect they are not going to appear anytime soon…if indeed they were ever considered.

WAAAAAGHTS NEXT FOR ORCS AND GOBLINS

For those of you who have an unnatural fear of giant spiders, the Forest Goblin Chief on a gigantic spider is on its way. It is done so I am not entirely sure why it has not been seen along with the Giant Cave Squig.
I have heard nothing more of Boar Boyz so I suspect I got dodgy info on this one. Sorry. That’s rumours for you! (Having said that I could be wrong now, they could still be on the way. That’s rumours for you!)

However, there is Azhag and the most incredible Wyvern. They are both sculpted by Alex Hedstrom. Hats off. This must be the most realistic, (believable), ‘fantasy monster’ mini I have ever seen. I love it. I can’t wait to get one!
I am sure it will be released at some point. I think they are just trying to find a good slot for it but also they are trying to work out how to promote it, as the whole thing is so huge that it couldn't be cast in metal (because it would weigh too much). Either they wouldn't be able to make profit on it or we would have to pay a fortune for it, so the Wyvern will probably have to be cast in Resin, although not necessarily made by Forgeworld. Instead it will made by a Games Workshop in-house resin manufacturing team, “GW Resins”, who from what I can gather happen to be the same team that casts FW products! Don’t ask me! I just write what I hear!

On a side note, I have heard that GW is considering producing more resin miniatures in the future. This would apparently only be used for character models and rare units - essentially those models you're only likely to buy one of. The decision to produce resin models apparently stems from the recognition that plastic cannot capture the same level of detail as metal or resin, and the price of metal is rising all the time. I don’t know how much truth there is in this but when you see the stuff Forge World produces…why wouldn’t they consider it?

FOR SIGMAR!

Most of the minis mentioned the last time have made an appearance on the net.
The Flagellants, Battle Wizards and Hellblaster/Helstorm rocket kit have all been seen and will all be available this side of the summer campaign in the July releases. Having seen some of this stuff put together I have to say these kits are very impressive. You are not going to believe how good these wizards look put together or the variety you can achieve off the sprues.
There will also be a splash release of Empire ‘re-enforcements’ which will have all of the above included with more state troops which looks like a great way to buy all of the new stuff at a bargain price. It looks like a saving of over £30 on stuff I would be buying anyway. I will certainly be investing in one of these.

I have still been unable to get conformation of new Empire Knights so I suspect they may not be happening. I think the reason they weren't done is probably that there wasn't enough resources to do them, either in designer time or tooling time. Just too many other things happening at the same time and as a result the knights were prioritised out. Maybe sometime in the future but don’t hold your breath. Sorry I don’t have better news on this.
(I was hoping for something reminiscent of David Gallagher’s concept work).
Having said this I don’t doubt Hastings original rumour of a new knights sprue. So their may still be something we haven’t seen yet for the knights.
One thing I have heard about knights is a rumour that at the 30th birthday bash there will be an Empire Knight, along similar lines to the rumoured Necron but in Gold (plated?) plastic I don’t know! Its just what I heard.

Something I can confirm is that there will be three or four new Empire characters on foot. I don’t have a lot of details but I have heard about two ‘direct order only’ Heroes one with a sword over his shoulder and one with a two handed mace. The mace is just huge. It is dwarfed only by the size of the moustache! There is also a Battle Standard Bearer with the Griffon Standard.

However the best Empire news of all is that the warrior priest blessing the handgun will be released as a direct only model at some point in the not so distant future.





HI ELVES

I have heard that Martin Footit has done ‘most’ of the High Elf minis. (He was the guy who did those fantastic High Elf heroes a while back) so I am pretty excited to see what’s coming.
Obviously there will have been contributions from other sculptors like a couple of characters from Steve Saleh and the chariot from Dave Thomas I mentioned last time.
One rumor that has surfaced recently on Warseer is that Alith Anar, the Shadow King will be in the book I will also tell you that I have heard that Gary Morley has done a rather nice sculpt for Alith Anar (didn’t want to say last time as it gave away his inclusion in the book, but as that is out there now….)
Drakes have also been rumoured. I have heard that these were sculpted by Alex Hedstrom. Having seen Azhag’s new Wyvern which I also believe to have been sculpted by him, I don’t mind telling you that I am looking forward to seeing more dragon type things from him. I think these will appear as a mount for a hero. Rather than as a unit.

Here is one description I have had of the new High Elf minis:

“The spear elves have basically the same style armour as the lion hero released last year, and compared to the current ones are just more 'elfy'. The spears themselves are thinner, and everything else seems more delicate and intricate than before. Compare the old Empire minis to the new ones. That is kind of detail increase we’ll see with the new plastics.”

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, however, so here you go.

INSERT HE SPRUE PIC HERE

You have got to be happy with that!
That has got to be the best command sprue so far.

The book is still not finalised and if my November date is correct this is still outside of a six month window so I will say nothing more.
Well, when I say nothing….
The odd snippet never did any harm!

If what I am hearing is correct, I will be as happy as this cat.

INSERT IMAGE OF HAPPY CAT

In fact I am so happy I wrote a little song. (In the hope we actually get the new book this side of Christmas!)

On the first day of Christmas Adam Troke gave to me, An Elf Prince, intrigue free!

On the second day of Christmas Adam Troke gave to me,
Two ranks of archers and an Elf Prince, intrigue free!

On the third day of Christmas Adam Troke gave to me three dangerous Dragons, two Ranks of archers and an Elf Prince, intrigue free!

On the forth day of Christmas Adam Troke gave to me four Lords of legend,
Three dangerous Dragons, two ranks of archers and an Elf Prince, intrigue free!

On the fifth day of Christmas Adam Troke gave to me five Gold Heroes,
Four lords of legend, three dangerous Dragons, two ranks of archers and an Elf Prince, intrigue free!

I might write a few more verses next time. (12 verses was just toooo many snippets).

I FEEL LIKE DEATH

I mentioned last time that John Blanche was doing the concept art for the new Undead. I think Games Workshop is keen to produce its own vision of the Undead rather than something more generic so that Games Workshop’s Undead are unlike anyone else’s Undead. I think this is something they will look to achieve increasingly in the future with other armies, which may also explain some of the change in ‘flavour’ in the recent Empire releases.
As a result we can expect a more “constructed” look, artificial beings more than the typical zombies’ held together with bits of wood, metal and bone.

On this theme the whole “Golem” (Ogre sized, Undead constructs) rumour just refuses to die (that’s Undead for you!). I still keep hearing about this unit even though I asked Gav about it myself and he told me it was not happening. I think what may be happening is rumours from Warseer are just being repeated. Having said that, Golems did make it into the Liber Necris, which is the Undead’s answer of the Liber Chaotica by The Black Library. So make of that what you will. Honestly I have no idea!

Some people on the forums seem to be under the impression that bloodlines are going to be scrapped in the new book. I am not sure this is correct. Last time I said:

“Gav Thorpe has been quoted as saying that he thinks the bloodlines are too restrictive and that players should be able to have more individual vampires, not limited by the bloodlines.”

I get the impression bloodlines will still be there and have an effect on your list but their importance will be toned down a little. I have heard that vampires will be able to pick from a selection of vampire abilities but will not be restricted by their bloodline.

Most of the mini’s; I told you about last time (the zombies, the Ghouls and Skeleton Variants (including plastic Grave Guard), are now finished.
I suggested we would be getting a number of new vampires. So far I have heard about acouple of Necrachs and a mounted Lahmian but the two most interesting Vampire minis I have heard about so far are a female Blood Dragon (Ohhh. Kate Beckinsale sir? Suits you sir. Will sir be wanting a mini to go with that? Your damn tooting sir will) and a really impressive vampire Lord transforming into a bat that sounds cool.
I have heard about both plastic and metal Necromancers. I have said before that I do not anticipate a plastic Vampire kit but a selection of metal vampires however I think we will be getting a Plastic kit for Foot & Mounted Necromancers. (with multiple heads arms much like the Empire mage sprue). But I also think we will get some Metal Necromancers just as we have for the Empire in addition to the plastic kit.

And that’s it for minis cough plague cough cart cough. Excuse me. Until next time.

DARK ELVES

It is my understanding that miniatures are now being sculpted for the Dark Elves so that puts them around twelve months away (or slightly less), so soon after Christmas next year unless there are any hic ups.

SOMETHING FOR ‘RAT FANS’

I promised a little something for Skaven fans last time so here is a scrap. Both plastic clan rats and I think also Stormvermin are done.
They are smaller and without the BIG hands.

The miniature department has a set of ‘scale masters’ (an unseen line of miniatures) which must be adhered to by the sculptors (Too big or too small and they won’t get done). These were reworked at the time the Wood Elves were done because of the variation in scale (even within some armies) and because of ‘scale creep’ in the minis generally. So just like the new Night Goblins are considerably smaller than the old ones but now in scale with the rest of the Warhammer world so are the new Skaven.

Me…I like my big, old, cartoony ones with massive hands but I am ready to be blown away by the new ones.

FOR THE GLORY OF THE GODS

I have heard about new Plastic for Chaos. I have heard things like new Chaos Marauders, new Chaos Warriors, new Chaos Knights, and new Chaos Chariots.
I have heard the new warriors will be more dynamic and pose-able and with more varied weapon options but nothing about the rumored God specific sprues mentioned when the current warriors came out.
I have heard ‘sooner rather than later’.
I have been thinking Chaos might be going to get the Battalion box.
I am thinking within the next twelve months.

However, there have been a number of rumours about Chaos Knights on Warseer and whilst they are coming they are not coming as soon as some people imagine. Whilst resins are completed I don’t think they have been made into plastics yet and they are definitely not going to appear this side of Games Day for the summer campaign as has been suggested.
However I have heard a rumour about a Chaos Character or two that might. If I remember right...one is mounted on a Barded chaos steed, the other on foot...so it sounds like the plastic character set for chaos to me so maybe it has nothing to do the Nemesis Campaign and is just one more element getting done to make the army box for Chaos.

I have also heard about Chaos Daemons being redone. I think Bloodletters and Daemonettes are already done. But all four main types will be done and I cant believe they wont fit nurglings on the sprue with the plague bearers. I also think Gary Morely may have done all the Tzeentch types. (Horrors, Screamers and Flamers)
They wanted to do the Daemons in plastic last time around but either time or technology did not allow. There is even talk of a demon Prince and a chaos spawn in plastic. I anticipate the first Plastic demons to be ready this side of Christmas as well. (Maybe some will even appear with the 40K Chaos release).
Whilst I mention 40K I have been told that the demon prince will be both a fantasy and a 40K release and that in addition to having all the extra bits to ‘40K up’ your Demon Prince he will have a round base which conveniently slots into the appropriate size base for Fantasy. Thus allowing your demon prince to be used in both systems. The spawn should also come with this base. This is a nice touch for Chaos players who enjoy both systems. It is not a new idea, however, I have some of these from when they tried it along time ago except mine are 20mm bases so potentially this could be the plan for all the demons making the entire demon force transferable. How cool would that be.

HERE BE DRAGONS

I have heard from a number of sources that Trish Morrison has sculpted the most amazing Dragon. However, so far there is only one made in resin. I have been unable to find out about its release. This is the best, most encouraging, answer I have heard so far :

“It's just such a beautiful and complex sculpt it would be very difficult if not impossible to cast it in plastic at the moment without losing a lot of the detail that makes it so good. So they are waiting for the technology to catch up ”

However, as the technology is already there, it might be more accurate to say waiting for them to catch up with the technology

Other Dragon news:
Azhag has now made an appearance.
The one wrapped around the rock which was too big and has supposedly been passed to Forge World has disappeared off the radar.
I expect to see some serious Dragon action released with the High Elves.

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Discussion here.
Empire heroes & wizards from french GD
Sylass  15/04/2007 - 17:51   
Thanks to anselminus for a few (blurry) pictures of the upcoming empire heroes and wizards (both are rumoured to be plastic kits!). Pictures taken at french GD.

http://www.warseer.com/sylass/Fantas...7/img_0910.jpg

http://www.warseer.com/sylass/Fantas...7/img_0911.jpg

http://www.warseer.com/sylass/Fantas...7/img_0912.jpg

Discussion here.
30th Anniversary White Dwarf miniature
Sylass  15/04/2007 - 08:02   
Thanks to silashand for a picture of the upcoming, limited edition 30th Anniversary White Dwarf miniature. Seems these odd rumours about the White Dwarf being carried around on a shield by his shield bearers Gotrek and Bugmann turned out to be true!

http://www.warseer.com/sylass/Fantas...ndup/WD_30.jpg

Discussion here.
New Dwarf heros & Miners
Sylass  03/04/2007 - 18:06   
Thanks to NetGuru and Malarick for pictures of the new Dwarf heros and Miners.


Discussion here.
Warrior Priest Blessing Handgun [green, unreleased]
Sylass  07/03/2007 - 18:37   
Thanks to Jedi152 for finding a picture of this unreleased beauty:
Originally Posted by Jedi152 View Post
Remember the rumours that this would be a limited release, like the limited gobbo fanatics?

Well guess what i've just found on the Collecting Citadel Miniatures Wiki, in the greens section:

This suggests that it won't be released, which is a pity as it's a stunner!

Anyone know if this will see the light of day?

Sorry if people don't think this is worth a new thread for.
Discussion here.
Upcoming GW releases [March - August]
Sylass  03/03/2007 - 17:43   
Thanks to BlazeXI for a summary of a GW conference for polish indies, originally posted on Cytadela.pl:

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Originally Posted by BlazeXI View Post
Just released few minutes ago on Cytadela, the bigest polish Indy

Pricing policy: every product cathegory shall receive a 20% price hike avery 5 years to match inflation.

The goodies released up untill August:

See here.

You will find sprues of buildings, Mighty Empires hexes, FLAGELLANT sprues, HELLGUNS sprues (Volley gun and Hellstrom rocket launcher) and Empire foot wizard sprue. There will not be any more mounted wizards!

[...]

Ok, I'll translate all releases in new post
Originally Posted by BlazeXI View Post
Translation:

April is to be a month of the Eldar:

* Harlequin Box - 6 figs
* Death Jester - Blister
* Shadow Seer - Blister
* Harlequin Troupe Master - Blister SPLASH
* Harlequin with Harlequin Kiss - Blister 2 figs SPLASH
* Harlequin with Fusion Blaster - Blister 2 figs SPLASH

Brettonian players will receive a changed Battalion, which we all unfortunetely know

May:
Lotr Khazad Dum expansion (sorry for all mistakes, but I've read the books ages ago, seen the films a few times and could not care less about the games)
army list Khazad Dum, Army Erebor, Durins Kingdoms, Army of Moria. Rules for undergroung fighting (expanding the main rules), beasiary, DRAGON - an allay of evil armies (entirely metal model about 25 quid) STats S8 , W7, 4 special rules including flying

New minis:
Dragon
Durin Mardin
Vault Warden
Iron Guard
Ballista
Plastic Rangers
Plastic Dward Warriors
Goblin shaman
Goblin prowlers

Next new releases for Lotr in November. Anyone more familiar with lotr please brush up my translation. I reckon you get what I wrote if you like he game anyway.

June- August:

Foundation paints - we know that already

Scenery:

The hill will be for around 15 quid


the forrest is shown built - without the leaves it makes a very sinister scenery piece

Sprues for watch tower, chapple can be combined
On top of that there is the skull temple, fences and walls

Mighty Empires will provide 48 hexes to create campaign maps

There will be an Empire Megaforce as well.
The Black orc sprues are known, but these are shown better than before.


further releases:
# Black Orc Hero
# Goblin Boss on Squig
# Troll
# Gorbad Ironclaw - SPLASH
# Dwarf Miners Plastic Regiment
# Dwarf Lord & Army Standard - SPLASH - metal figs
# Flagellant Plastic Regiment
# Hellguns - one box to build Hellblaster Volley Gun or Helstrom Rocket Launcher (so first rumours by Hastings were correct - RESPECT Mate!)
# Empire Foot Wizards - no more mounted wizards - Mortimer, owner of Cytadela and provider of these excelent rumours claims them to be the best plastic set since the Giant
# Empire Army Standard Bearer - Griffon Standard - SPLASH

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Attached to this post you'll find a quickly created summary of the featured pictures. Discussion here.
Modular Gaming board
Brimstone  03/02/2007 - 08:39   
With great thanks to Bregalad and from the Nürnberg Toy Fair we have these pictures of the new modular gaming board (we have pictures of the new fantasy buildings as well but go look in the WFB rumour forum for them)



Watchman Rumour Article
Sylass  01/02/2007 - 06:15   
A "few" rumours from Harry:

Originally Posted by Harry View Post
I have recieved a number of requests to post the rumours from The Watchman from members without the bandwidth or otherwise having problems with the download. So, with the kind permission of The watchmans Editor, here it is, as it was submitted, shocking spelling and Grammar and everything Hope this helps.

(I have no idea if this differs from the article as it appeared in The Watchman as I have been unable to download it succesfully myself!)

THE WORD ON THE STREET FROM THE WATCHMAN

WHATS NEXT FOR WARHAMMER FANTASY BATTLE?

Fantasy Buildings and Terrain (June 2007 Onwards?)
More releases (for Orcs, Dwarfs, Empire). (May, June, July 2007 in that order.)
Mighty Empires (July 2007)
High Elves (Was Summer 2007 Seems to be getting later and later!)
Summer Campaign (Summer 2007 obviously!)
Vampire Counts (Was Autumn 2007 Seems it may also be later).

After this everything is (even more!) subject to change but, I am confident Dark Elves will be the next army book to be updated. (In 2008 originally I understood it was to be early in 2008 but it is also getting pushed later.)
Having said that, the Chaos project may be ‘gathering momentum’ and ‘coming up on the outside’ with a ‘late challenge’ and it really would not surprise me if we saw something for chaos first.
There have been a number or rumours recently about Chaos. These are based on a number of sightings of figures leading people to the conclusion that Chaos is the next army after HE and VC. However I believe that the signals are being misinterpreted. I don’t think the book will be along for a little while. I think It is a big (and important) project that the Games Workshop developers want to get right. However, I don’t think Chaos fans will have to wait for the book until they get a little something new for their armies. (Cough, Knights, Cough, battalion box set, Cough, Cough.)

Predicting a release order for anything further ahead than this is so likely to change its not even worth it! But for what it is worth I have heard about work being done for, Skaven as well as Chaos and Dark Elves and for some other ‘more neglected’ armies. I’ll tell you more about this next time.


FANTASY BUILDINGS AND TERRAIN.

First to come are some new modular Gameboards. These will link together like a Jigsaw to make you as big a wargames table as you require!
Then there will be two new kits for woods. One makes a little wood and one makes a big wood! These are made with plastic trees.
Then come the buildings I have heard about four different ones so far there may be more (but I am not going to spoil all the surprises.) Available individually.
Some of these can be combined with a wall kit to make one big ‘fortified manor house type thing’ which will be available to buy as a kit.
Then there will be a really big terrain set, (like the complete Cities of Death kit).

WHAAAAAAGHT ELSE IS STILL TO COME FOR ORCS AND GOBLINS?

Well there are these.....

INSERT PHOTO’S OF BLORC SPRUES

I think these may have been done entirely on computer. No green stuff involved. (The world we live in. I remember when toy soldiers ……)
Obviously there is Gorbad., but also some new Boar Boys to go with him. (And possibly a new Boar chariot or at least the old one updated with the new boars)
New common Trolls. (As seen at Gamesday UK this year).
The Giant cave squig is done and the Gigantic spider. (but don’t get too excited about this one, its just the same as the spider riders spider, only bigger!)
I have heard conflicting rumours about problems with Azhag, (over scale), but it seems he is still set for release this summer. Azhags Wyvern is said to be very nice, poised for attack with on wing tip stuck in the ground for balance. Azhag is said to be Huge!
However, this would seem to be a different Wyvern to the ’masters series’ one with its tail wrapped around the rock described months ago by Hastings. I am not sure this one will make it into production. What I heard, right or wrong, is that it was too big for the plastic moulds and too heavy to be made in metal and as a result will be passed to Forgeworld to do in resin. (just as the Eldar Avatar was recently). But it is possible that some of the rumours about dragons and wyverns have got mixed up and this story is about a different dragon model entirely!

MEGA NEWS

In 40K you can buy an all plastic Mega Forces for some/most armies. (sorry don’t know much about 40K) This is comimg to Warhammer Fantasy Battles. From this summer you will be able to buy, all plastic Mega Warhammer armies. No Rulebook, no metal miniatures, no special Limited Edition miniatures. Just a huge box full of all the plastic for an army.
The first Mega Warhammer box will be for Orcs and be followed by Mega Warhammer deals for Empire and Dwarfs.

WHAT ELSE IS STILL TO BE SET IN STONE FOR DWARVES?

There is a much rumoured Plastic Dwarf Lord (and Battle Standard Bearer ?) set. The Lord obviously come with the option of shield and bearers and if there isn’t an oath stone on the sprue somewhere I’ll eat my horned helmet!
I have heard about new plastic Miners. This will be a full multi part kit not more of the Battle for Skull Pass chaps.
And I have even heard ‘grumbles’ about a plastic Flame cannon.
I know, I know, I’ll be having you believe next there will be plastic Dwarf slayers! (Well, I would if I could get this rumour confirmed from a second source!)

WHAT ELSE IS STILL TO COME…’FOR SIGMAR!’

There will be Karl Franz on a selection of different mounts (Deathclaw, Dragon and Pegasus). The Dragon is a Large plastic kit! Like the Giant it will come with lots of extras for customisation. (NOTE: Modelling options not parts to make it into a dragon for other races! E.g. Chaos or undead!)
There will NOT be a new Balthasar Gelt., Luther Huss Or even Volkmar,
However, I predict a new plastic Arch Lector/War Alter kit. (but this will not be for a little while.)
As has already been rumoured by Hastings there should be a new Plastic sprue for the Knightly Orders and contrary to everything I had heard before there now seem to be rumours of new plastic barded horses!
Januarys White Dwarf (WD325) seems to suggest some pieces from a new knightly orders/Knights of the empire sprue have been used in conversions (as part of a project in the back pages and also as part of the Modelling Generals article). Whilst these may be incorrect it suggests that at least one person at WD thinks the set exists! Also there are some incredible concept sketches from the talented hand of David Gallhager included in the fantastic ‘The Empire at war’ background book. (Which I recommend to all fans of the Empire or indeed any warhammer fans.) However I can get NO conformation that new Knights or knights horses are on their way so this remains to be seen.
However, I have heard rumours about both the two remaining infantry units not yet available in plastic being done. Flaggellants and Greatswords!
We will get both the Helstorm Rocket Launcher and a new plastic Helblaster Volley Gun. (Although, I had heard, the planned combined Helstorm/Helblaster plastic kit got scrapped because too many compromises to the designs of the machines were required to make them from the same kit.
There is also a rumour about a plastic steam tank that will not go away. However, I have heard about other ‘bigger things’ to come for Warhammer and I think the steam tank may be part of this, in the future. So watch this space.
When all this is done ‘the goal’ of the first complete plastic army for warhammer would be achieved except for a few characters…If they included another warrior priest on foot in my ‘predicted’ Arch Lector/War Alter kit that would only leave Engineers and Battle Wizards in metal. So the following ‘unconfirmed’ rumour, seen in this context, sounds possible.
From the ‘engineers school’, I have an unconfirmed rumour about an engineer model/kit/blister? Plastic/metal??? that comes with two separate engineers and all the different weapon options. If metal it may even utilize the same engineers arm sprue that was part of the Engineer on mechanical steed kit.
I have saved the best for last. I have heard from a number of sources about new set of Four different plastic Battle wizards!

HI ELVES

Let me say up front. I have decided not to discuss the contents of the High Elf army book. If for no other reason than its not finished yet! It still only exists as a partially completed document and will not even exist as a ‘draft’ PDF document for at least a month. I just don’t think it is fair to start to pull something to pieces before its even been put together. (And I have decided, even though he never phones and he never writes, that I like Adam Troke)
Anyway it will give me something to write about next issue! (Only joking, Adam. Well the odd little ‘snippet’ never did any harm.)

There will be Plastic kits for characters mounted and foot. (One for Princes and Commanders and another for Mages).
In addition there will be a plastic Dragon kit. (75Hastings69 posted this on warseer months ago) This is the one flying horizontally like the old Dragon Masters dragon (for those who remember that far back). It will come with various rider options to represent different character options who can ride it.
I have heard about a High Elf riding an eagle but I have no idea whether this is a character model or suggests a change to the current entry for Eagles in the list!
Martin Footit is the name I have heard in connection with new plastic troops and Steve Saleh has made a couple of characters. Steve Saleh did lots of stuff for the Wood Elves and Martin Footit is the guy who did those fantastic High Elf Heroes and Mages a little while back (for the Lustria campaign) so if those minis are anything to go by, I am pretty excited the new stuff.
I have heard about plastic box sets for spearmen. Not with other options as with recent Empire and Dwarf core troops. However, I have heard that you will be able to customise these to represent different provinces. (using add on bits for the helms and spears , etc.)
New High Elf cavalry plastics. The horses would seem to be the wood elf horses with possibly optional barding. I have heard nothing about the riders.
I have heard about from a couple of sources about new character models for Lothern Sea guard including a Sea guard Captain/Commander with a Sea hawk on his wrist and a standard bearer with a carved wooden leg. The art work for the seaguard is a lot more ‘gritty’ than the old look. (More ‘sea dog’ than Sea Elf!) I don’t know if these are part of a bigger ‘redo’ of the Sea Guard models or not.

There has been just one or two hints, rumours, confirmations (and a few disagreements!) about a ‘Lion chariot’ on Warseer.
So here are some facts:
There will be a new plastic High Elf Chariot kit. (Yes, Plastic!)
This has been sculpted by Dave Thomas. (Dave Thomas is the man responsible for Marneus Calgar, the Command Squad for Space Marines and Vostorians in 40K, various Lord of the Rings minis and, more recently, and the remarkable new Kurt Helborg.)
Much as the Kurt Helborg was an update of the older mini rather than a ‘new’
mini, the same could be said of this chariot. It has some similarity in design to the current chariot, its a development. (Clearly from the same race, etc.) so they should sit OK next to each other nicely on the table. It is a true multi-part kit with lots of bits and bobs to customise your chariot and it comes with the option of Lion ‘steeds’.

I had suggested on Warseer that this ‘Lion Chariot’ would cause fear this was based on the fact that I felt a lion would scare the crap out of me. (Especially if one could bring down a cold one by the throat, but that’s another story.)
However, it is now my understanding that it will NOT cause fear and so as far as I am aware there will be no new fear causing unit/model in the High Elf list.
I make a point of this only to clear up my own earlier, incorrect, assumption. (This could still change. It may be yet be decided that lions should cause fear (and its not just me being a girl.) Then again, maybe, if you live in a world of Dragons and Trolls, Lions would not be such a fearsome creature!)


SUMMER CAMPAIGN (MY NEMESIS)

I have heard so many conflicting things, and put forward so many different ideas on Warseer and changed my mind on this so many times…..
…..but out of all of this here is everything I know for sure about this summers campaign.
1) There will be a campaign
2) It will be in the summer.

Joking aside January’s White Dwarf will make it clear that this summers campaign will be for Warhammer Fantasy Battle and will be called ‘The Nemisis War’ or the ‘The Nemesis Crown campaign’. (These are used interchangeably).
It will revolve around the hunt to recover the mysterious Nemesis crown. ‘an ancient Dwarf magical artifact of terrifying power’ that has ‘lain hidden from the eyes of mortals for millennia’. It seems this crown was made by Alaric the Mad, the Dwarf who made the Runefangs for the Empire and then disappeared. Apparently it has ‘resurfaced’ (the Crown not the Dwarf!) somewhere in the old world millennia later.
I have heard each army will get a new special character and these will be the main protagonists in the quest to snatch the crown for their race. Other than the releases already mentioned I am not sure if there will be any additional releases for other races.
More about the Nemesis War next time!


I FEEL LIKE DEATH

I have heard about some very exciting developments for the undead.
John Blanche took on the Concept artwork for the Vampire Counts as a ‘personel project’ to help provide a more unified feel. (Oh my goodness, I am as nervous about what the ‘feel’ will be as I am excited by this news!) I am imagining a pretty different (more ‘Games Workshop’ look). I think it puts rumours of a more ‘constructed’ look for zombies into perspective.
As a result the entire figures range will be re-vamped (teehee, gets me every time) with new minis for almost everything.
Brian Nelson has made new skeleton ‘dollies’ and Aly Morrison and Mike Anderson are producing various skeleton derived troops based on these. I have heard about three or four different unit options. (I assume, not only will this give us skeletons and armoured skeletons but some new Grave guard as well. (Possibly with different weapons options. Cough, Halberds Cough). (Brian and Aly need no introduction. Mike is a winner of Golden Demons and having been sculpting for fanatic he has, recently, done the impressive new Skarsnik model and been involved in all the new Empire plastics (with Brian, Aly and Steve Saleh) and is the man who did those fantastic new Warrior Priests. After their, hugely successful, collaboration on the Empire plastic troops I am very excited to see what they do working together on Skellies. I think if the Empire troops are anything to go by we can look forward to some much more dynamic, detailed and characterful skeletons than the current set.
Seb Perbett I think is doing new Ghouls. (He is known for winning Golden Demon Statues and Various 40K stuff Vostorians? Tau? I think? Sorry Seb. Don’t do 40K)
Trish Morrison (On monsters. No surprises there) is doing new plastic ‘night creatures set’ I have heard specifically about Dire wolves but I assume new bats. Normal, vampire bat swarms and giant fell bats but have no details. I don’t even know that these troop choices will make it into the new book.)
In terms of characters, Gav Thorpe has been quoted as saying that he thinks the bloodlines are too restrictive and that players should be able to have a more individual vampires, not limited by the bloodlines. If the book allows for more individual vampires to be created I do not anticipate a character plastic kit, as we have seen for other races, for vampires but rather a large selection of vampire models much like we have seen recently with the goblin characters so that players can find one that most closely resembles their image of a vampire.
Having said this I would not rule out a plastic kit for the Necromancers who will have a more significant role to play in the new undead army.
Also I have heard that Wraiths return as a unit to the list and there will also be some ‘unexpected additions’ and the return of some old, old favourites.


MIGHTY EMPIRES

Mighty Empires is being re-released. This will not be as a stand alone game board game (as it was in the past) but more as a campaign supplement for linking your Warhammer Fantasy Battles.
It will come with plastic tiles which will allow you to build a plastic 3D world (or reproduce a part of the ‘Old World’) with little mountains, rivers and forests and coastlines in which to base your games.
There will be army specific sets of ‘army banners’ (counters to represent your armies) as well as the villages, cities, castles, etc. used in the game.
However, I really hope this system is just be part of a larger package to support your warhammer games. I was told that siege would be the first thing released in support of warhammer. I was also told that there would be support for playing warhammer in different ways…developments to the ‘special features’ system in the rule book, big battles, big boats, etc. I have heard little about these recently.
I hope what they might have done is made the decision that there was not enough material to take each of these ideas and make separate supplements but instead they have rolled some of them into one. In effect they could have done a re-write of the Generals Compendium. Including its best bits and a whole lot more. It was a fantastic book, just chock full of great ideas to expand the ways in which to enjoy warhammer. But completely ‘unofficial’!
Jeremy Vetock, who was one of the co-writers of that book, and Chad Mierzwa, one of the other members of the, very talented, hobby team involved in that project, are now based in the UK studio. Jeremy Vetock is Hobby team manager.(title?)
I hope that the UK studio have done an ‘official’ version of this. A warhammer extension/supplement that could include: Campaign system based on the old Mighy Empires. (complete with plastic tile system.) Map based campaigns (complete with map), Scenario generators, maybe include Nigel Stilmans excellent ‘The night before battle’ rules article?, Rules for big battles, multiplayer battles rules for using contingents from different armies, lots of new scenarios, lots of new ‘special features’ developing the stuff in the rule book, Etc, Etc….All in one Big Box! Oooohh! Sir! Pleeeease let it be so.
Now please bear in mind that I am really going ‘out on a limb’ here and this ‘theory’ is based on ‘very little’ (read ‘No’) actual facts. For all I know it is just the campaign system. And that’s it. The rest of it could all be planned for separate supplements. But you know me. I do like to get excited about what they might do!
I am now fairly sure that Siege rules and rules for using big boats (like ‘Warhammer Ahoy” from Gamesday or the rules in the generals compendium) Will not be part of this supplement. I think they must be coming later or I would have heard more about it by now!.

Discussion here.
Plastic Black Orcs
Sylass  18/01/2007 - 17:06   
Seems a few pictures of the rumoured Black Orc plastic box finally made their way to the web.