View Full Version : Will it make GW sit up and take notice?

01-11-2007, 10:27
Weekend of 19th/20th/21st the NAF held the NAF Blood Bowl World Cup at Warhammer World in Nottingham.

For a game GW seem to want to kill, it seemed very lively, being the largest one-system tourney GW have ever had under it's roof, and so we are lead to believe, the largest GW game tourney ever (any system/multiple systems), with approx 276 coaches from around the world (including teams from the USA and Australia) playing 9 games over 3 days (9 games counted towards the individual winner, the last 6 games to find the team champions). The 3 day ticket price included 5 meals and a 12-man limited edition team designed by a NAF member and sculpted by Impact, and all attendees (and refs) were presented with a individually numbered coin by Team Spain (the reigning Eurobowl champions, and "hosts" for the World Cup - all for less than the price of the BB GT ticket.

The numbers attending were so great that because of building regulations, every round 60 coaches played their games in the local White Hart pub (which were glad of the extra trade, and should be thanked for the excellent food they put on).

At one point, a couple of young kids were seen playing a game of BB at the back of the hall (not in the tourney), watched by their father, and when they finished, spent some time wandering the tables looking at teams. Jervis Johnson (who was in attendednce all weekend) nudged the NAF president and saiud "do you know who that is?", to which the Prez said no. "That's not my boss, that's my bosses boss, and he's wondering how the hell the NAF have filled this hall and the pub, when the GT can't."

Oh, and we pretty much drank Bugman's dry.

Easy E
02-11-2007, 12:19
I saw it on the web-cam and thought to myself. Dang, that's a lot of players for a "dead system". Hopefully, it will help GW realize what a gem they have in the specialist games range.

02-11-2007, 12:23
Oh, and we pretty much drank Bugman's dry.

A great feat and achievement I wager.

02-11-2007, 12:44
Hope so. I've only played half of the current "specialist range" and think that the quality of the games deserves more recognition and more active development of the gaming community.

Captain Micha
02-11-2007, 12:57
I hope it will. I really do. the Specialist games all need love and care at this point. (not one of their minis is up to standards for starters)
especially bfg.. that has to be some of the worst rules making ever. (and gw didn't make them.. see gw you do get what you pay for)

Chaos and Evil
02-11-2007, 14:16
(not one of their minis is up to standards for starters)

I'd like to refute that... I'd say that the majority of SG models (For whatever system) are on average superior to the 'core' ranges.

For the 28mm models, they are less 'heroically' scaled (That means they're not mutants with big hands and heads).

For the 6/10mm scale games, they're detailed and cute. :D

For BFG... I think the detailing is fine really!

02-11-2007, 18:47
We can but keep our fingers crossed.

Oh, and hope the bosses boss reports back...

floyd pinkerton
02-11-2007, 19:37
Hopefully it will, though we must remember it'Gw we're dealing with here, and their answer will probably be to make more l33t marines in varying colours:D

02-11-2007, 23:17
Great news, it would seem the real Jervis Johnson does still exist and hasn't been replaced by that mindless clone that writes for White Dwarf.

02-11-2007, 23:49
A huzzah and congrates to the NAF for this. I'm really hoping that GW stops killing SG, Bloodbowl is pound for pound the most popular game in our shop. Does it bring in the big sales? No. But I've got a 25-30 player league every year, and we can't get more than 16 to play 40k or Fantasy.

03-11-2007, 15:20
Are there equivalent events for Necromunda/BFG? I think I'd definately make the journey to Warhammer World for one of those, and if it helps to keep SG alive then all the better.

03-11-2007, 15:28
That was a great result for the NAF - I really must renew my membership! I just wish the other systems had the following that Bloodbowl does.


Dead orc
03-11-2007, 16:45
I think blood bowl is like marmite, you either love it or hate it. The ones who hate it usually hate the idea of it and have never played like a lot of my friends....

03-11-2007, 17:00
Yup. Quality games win fans. Go NAF!

03-11-2007, 23:02
nice to see evidence that even GW can't crush a good idea (the SG's):D. To be honest at our club, even though we do play the main games more, there is always at least one SG going on at any one time (mordheim is in at the moment) and every few months we have a tourney of some kind. And though it isn't a SG as such I must say I love Space Hulk!

04-11-2007, 19:52
What's the NAF?

05-11-2007, 13:02
(not one of their minis is up to standards for starters)
Huh? I think the SG range is mighty fine. To me it seems the 40k/WHFB line is degrading last years.

especially bfg.. that has to be some of the worst rules making ever. (and gw didn't make them.. see gw you do get what you pay for)
Huh? BFG is very streamlined and fun to play. I agree, Full Thrust may be better in detail but I like BFG more.

Also: Andy Chambers is the original BFG rule designer, he worked at GW at that time. So what do you mean with payed for?

Brother Loki
05-11-2007, 13:41
I hope it will. I really do. the Specialist games all need love and care at this point.

Hear Hear!

(not one of their minis is up to standards for starters)

Huh? You have seen them right? They're generally at least as good as the figures fro the core games.

especially bfg.. that has to be some of the worst rules making ever. (and gw didn't make them.. see gw you do get what you pay for)

Now I just don't have a clue what you're talking about. BFG is beautiful for what it is, a naval simulation in space, and GW made both the rules and the minis didn't they?

Chaos and Evil
05-11-2007, 13:52
Jervis talks about the Blood Bowl World Cup

I was recently lucky enough to be invited along to the first Blood Bowl World Cup. Those of you that were also there will know just how awesome an event it was. As for those of you that didn't make it, well, I think Shakespeare put it pretty well in Henry V: "And gentlemen in England now
a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here"

Seriously, though, Jim Lanier and Dave Downes and the rest of the NAF team deserve unstinting praise for organising such a wonderful event. From the start they thought big, and were determined that the World Cup would be a truly global celebration of the Blood Bowl hobby. They succeeded beyond all expectations, gathering coaches from all corners of the world to take part in three glorious days of furious Blood Bowl action.

However, I'm sure that all of the members of the NAF organising team would agree that the World Cup would have been nothing without the wonderful attitude and spirit of all of the coaches that took part. From their arrival on Thursday evening for pre-registration, through to the awards ceremony on Sunday evening, the coaches took part in the World Cup with infectious enthusiasm and passion. This was especially true of Team Les Azes, from Toulouse, France, the well deserved winners of the team trophy, who played throughout the three days with exemplary skill and sportsmanship against extremely tough opposition. Well done to them, and all of the other trophy winners.

The tournament was so big that it really impressed many staff how work here at HQ and had never seen so many gamers in one place!

With the bar set so high by the first World Cup it is difficult to imagine that the next one can be any better – but if I know the NAF they will already be thinking about how to achieve this seemingly impossible feat. I, for one, can't wait to see if they succeed!

Jervis Johnson
November 2007

From the SG website: http://www.specialist-games.com/

12-11-2007, 20:01
What's the NAF?

An independent BB coaches scoiety that ranks (for fun) players at tournaments and helps advertise and support tournaments around the world.


19-11-2007, 05:25
That sounds like it was fantastic. I am in total agreement about BB being the best game GW have. Its fun, fast, and easy to learn (difficult to master though!!) and it has the added element of risk and progression. Great, great game.

Me and a few mates are in the process of organising a 3 day Dungeon Bowl tournament here in Japan. Once a year they have a big meet and game event (might be an actual GW one but not sure) so we decided to do something a little different for it. There will be a max of 5 teams on at any one time.

If you guys have any input, hints or tips about how to run an event please feel free to pipe up and let me know. All help appreciated Rather than clog up this thread please PM me with all and any suggestions.

19-11-2007, 07:37
Funnily enough now over here in Australia, GW are offering a once-off stock of Bloodbowl boxed games and teams to independent retailers, to go on sale in Feburary. They must be gauging sales to see if they will bring it back in-store or something.

19-11-2007, 08:19
It's so good every year to see the BB tournament go down well and pack the place out. For some reason it has a very vibrant player community from all round the world. I've often considered entering myself, and this tournament looks like no exception.

Hopefully GW will sit up and take notice. A tournament for every SG would be amazing (but terrain and boards would be an issue). Hopefully they'll stop seeing SG as stealing players money from core games, but something that players buy in addition to their core armies, which is most often the case.

And GW: Ditch the boxed set with it's outdated rules and crap plastic teams - sell the board, dice and templates as a set and get more people into this amazing game!

In game, NAF stand for Nuffal's Amoorical Football league or something.

19-11-2007, 23:10
i dont understand why gw cant see that sg games are ideal for getting people into their games, which will then probably branch out and spend on their core games.
when kids see playing means buying an army for well over 100 they just look elsewhere for entertainment.
gw are just greedy and want a quick fix so raise prices, and to be honest i really cant see them being around in 5-10 years time. its sad but there will be a point at which they will go under

20-11-2007, 02:39
Congratulations hopefully GW will realise that they have a Gem in the specailist games

23-11-2007, 19:43
it has quite a big following where i am.
All of which cannot wait for the Blood Bowl game hitting Xbox360 next year :D
i'm probably getting the DS version though.

02-12-2007, 11:46
To answe my own question, yep, it made them sit up and take notice.

It made them put the price of the GT ticket up from 50 to 55.:wtf:

Let's see:-

NAF World Cup - 9 games, 5 meals, 12 limited edition figs and coloured WC coin = 40
BB GT - 6 games, 3 meals, one metal (non-coloured, and tbh, pretty poor quality) coin = 55

And then they'll wonder why numbers are down again this year.:rolleyes: