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gamble
23-01-2008, 07:57
i know there not official but where might i find them? Ive almost finished my epic malcador just need to add the demolisher cannon, (post pics in abit of the green if i can find my camera)

CnE if your in gw tommorow i will show you it.

Chaos and Evil
23-01-2008, 10:37
Cool I'll be there.

A direct conversion from the 40k rules gives us something like:

Type: War Engine
Speed 10cm
Armour 4+
Firefight 4+
Close Combat 6+

Weapons:
7x Heavy Bolter - Range 30cm - AP5+
Demolisher Cannon - Range 30cm - AP3+ / AT4+ Ignores Cover

Notes: Reinforced Armour, Damage Capacity 2, Critical Hit Effect: Instantly Destroyed.


Points cost, somewhere in the region of 100-125 pts each I reckon. They'd be cheap compared to Baneblades because they're so very slow.

gamble
23-01-2008, 10:53
ok nice thx

Hena
23-01-2008, 16:20
I wouldn't put 7 Heavy Bolters on it as it cannot fire them at the same target. So perhaps 3 or 4 without any fire arc to represent the ability fire that many on a single target.

Chaos and Evil
23-01-2008, 17:34
Hena has a good point.

IIRC one of the heavy bolters is facing backwards, and two are facing out from each side.

Thus-

Weapons:

4x Heavy Bolter - Range 30cm - AP5+ - Forward Arc.
1x Heavy Bolter - Range 30cm - AP5+ - Left Arc.
1x Heavy Bolter - Range 30cm - AP5+ - Right Arc.
1x Heavy Bolter - Range 30cm - AP5+ - Rear Arc.
1x Demolisher Cannon - Range 30cm - AP3+ / AT4+ - Ignores Cover, Fixed Forward Arc.


Entertainingly fiddly.

Hena
23-01-2008, 17:50
Those side weapons wouldn't fire ahead even if they wanted. Also I think it's tad too fiddly for 2DC WE. So just 4 without fire arc restrictions?

tabletopnews
23-01-2008, 18:42
Those side weapons wouldn't fire ahead even if they wanted. Also I think it's tad too fiddly for 2DC WE. So just 4 without fire arc restrictions?

The arcs are pretty well established by the design of the vehicle though. Maybe 3DC and keep the restrictions?

Chaos and Evil
23-01-2008, 18:44
I dunno, you'd be able to fire the side weapons if you drove up close to an enemy formation so that it surrounded you in a crescent.

Firing the rear HB is just unlikely however. :)


I think the best way to have it might just be to give it 7x shots with no fire arcs, remembering that every Epic turn represents 15 full minutes of moving around and shooting.

7x HB shots is frankly pretty naff on an Epic battlefield, especially when put on one vulnerable little tank... it certainly wouldn't be overpowered.

gamble
23-01-2008, 18:50
well if im gona be playing against your group or you, we could test it out see how it fairs chaos.

Chaos and Evil
23-01-2008, 19:17
Yup I'm sure we'll quickly find out what it's worth. :p

gamble
23-01-2008, 19:24
o i ordered 3 FW epic shadowswords and 3 epic hydraflaks yesterday

Hena
23-01-2008, 19:29
It feels way too heavily armed for the 2DC. Most likely would still suggest upping the speed to 15cm and dropping weapons to 4.

Chaos and Evil
23-01-2008, 19:37
It feels way too heavily armed for the 2DC.

It's insanely-heavily armed in 40k too, if that helps.


Most likely would still suggest upping the speed to 15cm

IIRC it's supposed to be slower than a Baneblade, which moves 15cm?

Chaos and Evil
23-01-2008, 19:53
o i ordered 3 FW epic shadowswords and 3 epic hydraflaks yesterday

Awesome, anti-titan and anti-aircraft in one!

Hena
24-01-2008, 17:34
IIRC it's supposed to be slower than a Baneblade, which moves 15cm?
Couldn't you say something similar about the Gorgons. I must say that I don't know the speed of Baneblade or the Malcador, but vehicle that is slower than infantry doesn't sound very good.

Chaos and Evil
24-01-2008, 23:55
We played a game tonight with his malcador with 7x shots. As expected it underperformed even with that many shots.

gamble
25-01-2008, 17:01
yes it wasnt very good but thats was only one game, we will play some more with it and see if there is any differance.