View Full Version : Lost and the Damned a viable army?

29-05-2008, 20:48
I know there is nothing official for the LATD but I was wondering if anyone has tried to make a viable army for them, possibly based off the Apoc datasheet?

I'd personally like to see WD come out with a viable army list possibly containing some traitor guard units to round it out.

ginger gobbo
29-05-2008, 20:57
people usually use the dark andel army as they have most of the things needed

29-05-2008, 21:36

I was wondering if anyone has tried to make a viable army for them

In 2003, GW released three books letting players get two armies for just over the price of one.

SM players could buy a few Inq models and play DH, for instance.
What a great idea! Many players balked at the thought of starting a 2nd army.
It was just so much work, there was a lot of hesitation - but one or two Units?
From a marketing standpoint, it was a brilliant promotional gimmick.

IG players got WH and LatD. Almost by accident, CSM players got LatD too.

Not long afterward, GW realized it was giving customers a deal, and changed their policy -
No more twofer "Codexes" were ever released until 40kA Allies were introduced.
(And then, it was understood that you were buying at least 3,000 points worth of models.)

So, WH, DH and LatD armies aren't orphaned because there is, or was, anything wrong with them.
Their abandonment is due entirely to GW's indifference to those customers.
Their release of the CSM and CD dexes with no thought for backward compatibility confirms this.

So, what can we do? Well, we can do their work for them.
Hell, Dakka members are all but writing GW's FAQs for them, already.
So, there's enough background to understand what follows.

Here's a modified EoT list for LatD that's as official as a GW FAQ:


4th/5th Ed LatD
Excerpted from Astronomi-con

Special Rules: Sentries use Units of 10 Mutants (Bosses may not be Vessels).
Mutants may take Personal Icons. CSM Vehicles may take CSM Vehicle Upgrades. d3
Strategy Rating. Allied Units may not be taken as compulsory FOC choices. Cult
Allies = Elites. Greater/Lesser Daemon Units *do* use a Chart slot.

1-2 Lord or Sorc (Arch Heretic), Greater Daemon or Champions, +0-1 CSM HQ ally -
Lord, Sorcerer and GD per Chaos Codex. Champions =
Number/Squad: 1-6 as a single HQ choice.
Each Champ must be attached to a squad of Rebel Guard prior to Deployment.

Aspiring Champion Costs
Undivided (Glory): 30 Points.
Noise Champion: 35 Points.
Skull Champion: 36 Points.
Plague Champion: 38 Points.
Aspiring Sorcerer: 60 Points. (Incl DBolt)

All HQ Units follow their corresponding Codex entries
for Wargear, Character upgrades and Special Rules.

Possessed, Lesser Daemons, Big Mutants, +0-1 CSM Elites ally -
Possessed and LDs per Chaos Codex. Big Mutants =
25pt 4 2 6 4 3 3 2 7 5+
3-10 per Unit w/ ccw only but up to 2 may take 6pt Flamers. All may be upgraded
to Scaly (4+Sv but at -1I) for +5ppm.

Rebel Guardsmen, +0-2 CSM Troops allies -
Rebel Guard =
6pt 3 2 3 3(4) 1 3 1(2) 7 5+
10-30 per Unit w/ Frag and ccw (or Frag and Pistol @+1ppm). Krak costs +2ppm. Up
to 3 Personal Icon Bearers @+3ppm, up to 2 Flamers @+3ppm. 0-1 Boss @+10pt w/
up to 25pts of Wargear from Codex: IG, including Officer-only Wargear.

Hounds, +0-1 CSM FA ally -
Chaos Hounds =
10pt 4 0 4 4 1 4 2 8 6+
5-10 per Unit. Move as Cav.

Defiler, Basilisk, EoT Spawn
Defiler per Chaos Codex. Basilisk per IG Codex, EoT Spawn =
20pt 3 0 5 5 2 3 d6 9 3+
3-5 per Unit. d6 S5 Attacks per Assault Phase, Fearless, Dim: Moves vs Ld test
every turn, if failed may not Move or Assault.




29-05-2008, 22:54
I've just written up a new army list for lost and the damned. They're nasty imo.

29-05-2008, 23:33
I just let people use the Eye of Terror LaTD list.

30-05-2008, 08:59
I just let people use the Eye of Terror LaTD list.

Me too. It'll never be outdated because it'll never be replaced!

Grey Seer Skretch
30-05-2008, 11:28
Well, the simplest way by far is to play apocalypse :) other than that, personally I use guard, doctrined up a bit, with conscripts as mutants, oggys as big mutants, an inquisitor as a fallen Inquisitor Radical Sorcerer type, and lots of conversion on the models to make them llok like traitor guard. Works for me...

30-05-2008, 14:01
As long as you have the old Chaos codex, the EoT book works just fine. Just make sure your opponent is ok with it.

Otherwise, counts-as IG works too, maybe with =][= allies to represent CSM, rogue psykers, etc.