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nick
25-10-2005, 20:19
I'm just checking to see how many people would be interested in an Official Tournament in 6 months time? It would be based somewhere in the UK and hopefully would bring the WarSeer chapter to battle for the first time.

I won't bother with a poll as they seem pointless, just reply with thoughts on this. Ideally I would like to make this something serious and try to bring in people from GW or other gaming companies to show their wares but somehow I doubt it will end up more than a glorified pub crawl.

Nick

Shuya
25-10-2005, 20:26
glorified pub crawl woo!

but in all seriousness i like the idea of a Warseer tournament, do you know of any venues near the centre of the UK (or reading i like reading :D) or any places that would be easi to get to

tzeentchgiant
25-10-2005, 20:43
Sounds like a plan, maybe I'll learn to play, but I don't know, it almost seems worth it just to meet some of you guys and gals.

Sound great.

*spreads word as Sylass commanded*

TG

nurgle_boy
25-10-2005, 20:48
well, well, depending on the location, i may be up for it... asfor a locatioon, how many boards do you need?

nick
25-10-2005, 20:53
well, well, depending on the location, i may be up for it... asfor a locatioon, how many boards do you need?
Depends on numbers. If we want an easy life GWHQ is always an option but that can be rather expensive. I'm just really after an idea of what people want and how we can fund the event (there is money in the WarSeer kitty if needed)

Nick

GamesmasterZ
25-10-2005, 20:54
Since I can't go...

I'd happily send my Bret. board...

Must get working on it though...

Imus
25-10-2005, 21:07
wasn't there on portent an tournment done by one of the memebers from here? Why a tournament, why not a campagin weekend revolving the warseer chapter?

nick
25-10-2005, 21:11
wasn't there on portent an tournment done by one of the memebers from here? Why a tournament, why not a campagin weekend revolving the warseer chapter?
That is always possible. Lavfuris did the portent tournaments but I'm after any other ideas before deciding if we should go with the same format or not.

Nick

rkunisch
25-10-2005, 21:18
Although I have been there myself already, Warhammer World would be an interesting location for all who have not been there. It may be a good idea to do it in Nottingham. :)

Personally I really would like to come, but there are some details to be sorted on my side (e.g. time, family and money) and to be honest, it is not very likely. :(

Have fun,

Rolf.

DarkstarSabre
25-10-2005, 21:24
Oooh. Sounds very tempting.

I may even have my Reavers painted up by then. Now off I go to imagine more ways to strap corpses and red paint and blades to Chimeras...

neXus6
25-10-2005, 21:31
Travel from the northish of Scotland to anywhere down south isn't exactly cheap, and I can't drive...plus from the Gamesday Gathering pictures and the old Portent pictures your a scary bunch of ba****ds. :p

Would be pretty funny though.

Brimstone
25-10-2005, 21:49
Depending on job/holiday availability I'd be interested.

redemptionist15
25-10-2005, 23:13
To be honest i kinda view Carnage as the Portent/Warseer thing myself, it depends really as thats always my first option. Surely a Warseer supported Carnage tournament would be a better and more viable option?

Hywel
25-10-2005, 23:19
I agree with Red, surely it would be more advisable to amlgamate with the continuing Carnage tournaments than it would be to set up alone without the experience and knowledge the previous events have brought?

Not to mention you won't be dividing each others 'fanbase', most gamers can't afford two weekends away at the same time of year.

MacVurrich
25-10-2005, 23:33
Only thing is there only going to be three carnages next year IIRC, so selecting one will be the problem

Lord Lucifer
26-10-2005, 00:55
What's wrong with the Carnage tournaments?
Why not simply expand a Carnage event to act as the big daddy Warseer-based Tournament of the year?


And I curse you all for living in England. All of you.

TWB
26-10-2005, 05:34
I may even be able to attend ;)

Crube
26-10-2005, 07:50
Sounds good, but arent the two Tale of 8 Gamers planning to end up at Carnage in March?

By my calculations, a Warseer tourney / campaign / whatever, in 6 months time would put it very very close.

I for one would only probably attend the Carnage one. Not out of any disloyalty or choice, but cos I'm signed up to Tale of 8 Gamers, and cant really justify 2 tourneys in a month or 2. (I have to pay Mrs Crube some attention sometime...)

So I'd go with making the Carnage Tournaments 'WarSeer Approved' personally.

ironduke
26-10-2005, 07:57
I'd be up for two tournaments in two months, Aprils a good time for me so sign me up as someone whos interested.

nick
26-10-2005, 07:58
What's wrong with the Carnage tournaments?
Why not simply expand a Carnage event to act as the big daddy Warseer-based Tournament of the year?
I'm just after considering all the possibilities. I don't see a problem with Carnage, but I want to consider all options and take any other ideas.

Nick

plasmadaemon
26-10-2005, 08:27
I would be interested, but I wouldn't like to travel to the HQ place, it's too far of a journey (from London) and it's expensive.

Can't you just invite the Londoneers to your house, Nick? ;)

mattjgilbert
26-10-2005, 12:00
Sounds great to me. I'd be up for it (assuming my wife lets me go.... ;) )

ironduke
26-10-2005, 12:01
Its not that far by train and its easy to find your way on foot only takes like alf an hour from station

Jedi152
26-10-2005, 12:37
wasn't there on portent an tournment done by one of the memebers from here? Why a tournament, why not a campagin weekend revolving the warseer chapter?
Because not everyone plays 40k? If we had a 40k weekend, it's only fair that we get a WFB one, which doubles the cost.

I would be tempted as long as it didn't clash with the Carnage tourney.

Col.Gravis
26-10-2005, 17:46
Why not leave Carnage as the 'GT' event at Nottingham HQ for Warseer and look at more localised one day events? Maybe one in the north and one in the south? (Kind of a 'Conflict' styled event).

Lord Setra
26-10-2005, 17:51
If its relativley close to Scotland I could make it down.

Also note to all Scottish Warseers by this time i might be able to drive this means 3/4 seats in a car are perhaps up for grabs.

Of course fuel etc but we can talk about that closer to the big day if it happens.

grey_painter
26-10-2005, 21:30
somehow I doubt it will end up more than a glorified pub crawl.

Nick

SOLD!:D

Dependant on where it is (my preferance is in the middle to north of England) and what job I've got I'll be up for that. I'll be heart broken if I don't spot my marine in the army though:p

Heero-Severus
27-10-2005, 19:13
Id definatly be up for this, im probubly the worlds worst 40k player, rules slip from my meagre brain with to much ease. But i do like meeting people, and alcohol, (in no particular order,.... ok beer first) Warhammer World would probubly be the easiest, but sumwhere in london would be good also.

Vaya
28-10-2005, 08:26
Providing my job and bank account permits it, I could be persuaded into rallying some Dutch brethren and cross the channel. 6 months is a period in which a lot can happen though... ;)

samael
28-10-2005, 08:41
I personally see Carnage as the official replacement of the old Portent tournament and the resident Warseer tournament, please don't cause a split.

I'm allready warning my boss that I'll be away for two days somewhere around march next year to go to the tournament , if I'm still welcome of course :).
.

It's hard to get time off during the schoolyear. ;)

Kohhna
28-10-2005, 14:41
I'd like to go, In about 6 months I'll probably be needing a break fromn my MA.

MidnightResistance
28-10-2005, 15:26
Sign me up!

I'll see how many other Deathwing players I can bring along too :evilgrin:

Guido le Wombat
30-10-2005, 22:09
Carnage is what was the official portent tourny, in my eyes it already is the official 'warseer' tourny.

Trying to run another tourny along side will just mean lower attendance at both. I for one have signed my soul to carnage long ago, so if this in anyway clashes, or I cant afford both its to carnage I will go.

nick
30-10-2005, 22:16
Carnage is what was the official portent tourny, in my eyes it already is the official 'warseer' tourny.

Trying to run another tourny along side will just mean lower attendance at both. I for one have signed my soul to carnage long ago, so if this in anyway clashes, or I cant afford both its to carnage I will go.
I'm in discussion with Lav about the option of making them the same event I was only opening the field for any ideas or suggestions.

Nick

Rik Valdis
30-10-2005, 22:20
Carnage should be left as the tournament but that doesnt mean no other events could be organised. A specialist games tournament, or a campaign weekend, not a tournament.

Hywel
30-10-2005, 22:44
Indeed, perhaps structure them so that they don't immediately detract from each other. Either different times of year or a completely different idea. Eg. make one a tournament and the other a narrative campaign or huge multiplayer battle...

Xisor
31-10-2005, 00:35
I'd throw my hat(or real life fez, unfortunately I'm not confident enough to wear it on my avatar here) with one of these events, though I suspect there will be better attendance at north-south(or more) ones as opposed to one all encompassing event. At very least it'd make it a bit more affordable. I think an obvious option would be in the Conflict Styles. Anyone for a Scottish Warseer Tournie?

Xisor

Anvils Hammer
03-11-2005, 09:48
sounds like a plan, ill certainly try and attend anything thats arranged.

if you arrange it at a none warhammer world location, i can bring some gaming boards, including venice if its finnihed by then and ive still got it.

MidnightResistance
07-11-2005, 14:28
Warhammer World is still the best venue for it.
Besides, it has a bar, a shop, forgeworld and if we're not happy with the scenery, we can steal some from the other tables (like me and Big Jim did).

Great Harlequin
07-11-2005, 17:41
Warhammer World is still the best venue for it.
Besides, it has a bar, a shop, forgeworld and if we're not happy with the scenery, we can steal some from the other tables (like me and Big Jim did).
Agreed.

Warhammer World is by far the best venue IMO. They have everything you could need. In addition to what MidnightResistance said the food is great for the price, the atmosphere is amazing and there are a variety of places nearby for you to stay and Nottingham is relatively easy to access.

I really don't think there is a better place for it.

MidnightResistance
07-11-2005, 17:49
Best of all, Nottingham is cheap!

Lardidar
09-11-2005, 17:32
I shall try to attend anything.

I will be at Carnage for the To8G final but if I have the spare cash I'll come to any campaign weekend or tourney you choose to run.

Darkness
11-11-2005, 12:02
Indeedy, WW is the best place for holding a tournament in the UK, without a doubt.

I'd definitely try to come along to anything - I've been meaning to come along to one of the Portent/Warseer tournaments for a while now, but never actually got round to it.

Darkseer
13-11-2005, 08:26
We also have to make sure that the Warseer and Dysartes tournaments aren't too close together.

They were within a month or two of each other last summer and lots of people who post on both forums showed up for just dysartes as they didn't have enough cash for both.

mattjgilbert
13-11-2005, 16:59
We also have to make sure that the Warseer and Dysartes tournaments aren't too close together.

They were within a month or two of each other last summer and lots of people who post on both forums showed up for just dysartes as they didn't have enough cash for both.
Better make sure ours is first then :evilgrin:

MacVurrich
13-11-2005, 17:17
The other thing to remember when chosing the dates is that's world cup year ?

Darkseer
17-11-2005, 10:42
We're geeks, we don't watch football

MacVurrich
17-11-2005, 10:49
That's handy cos WW is mostly free during July and Aug

Lavfluris
17-11-2005, 11:19
That's handy cos WW is mostly free during July and AugThat's because most people are on holiday. ;)

Tom - Heretic
17-11-2005, 11:34
Isn't carnage set for march?

anyways - it's always a good weekend if you can avoid throwing up in the WHW toilets due to hanging around with the naughty boys, and also if you don't get injured by Guido.
Only one of these happened to me, care to guess? ;)

Count me in for whatever happens, btw.

Sylass
17-11-2005, 11:44
You threw up in the WHW toilets...I had the pleasure of opening one of the box doors and saw your 'leftovers'...

Tom - Heretic
17-11-2005, 11:53
No no no, I threw up at Carnage, not the first tourney.

That must have been one of the other reprobates.

jigplums
17-11-2005, 13:34
i'd probably attend, all things considered

Hywel
17-11-2005, 16:08
anyways - it's always a good weekend if you can avoid throwing up in the WHW toilets due to hanging around with the naughty boys, and also if you don't get injured by Guido.


Naughty boys? :eek:

You must mean Lav for his excessive drinking, politically incorrect fancy dress and bouts of violence.

Or Lord "I'm gonna throw every ********** drink on the floor" Monkey

They're both nice boys really. :)

Bruen
17-11-2005, 17:38
Althought I would prefer a campaign I'm game for a Warseer tournament. Not interested in Carnage or other tournaments though - I don't like the competative atmosphere they generate.

Hywel
17-11-2005, 18:49
Not interested in Carnage or other tournaments though - I don't like the competative atmosphere they generate.

Carnage is about as competative as a monkey **** fight. :p

Only instead of poo we throw dice at each other and instead of monkeys... well, the monkeys can stay.

Darkseer
20-11-2005, 14:09
Yes, it's not very competative at all.

Everyone is there for fun...

However, last time there was a Necron player not even from this forum, who was a MASSIVE ********.

This time I think that only members of the forum should be allowed to attend, as all of us are nice people.

Lavfluris
20-11-2005, 16:27
However, last time there was a Necron player not even from this forum, who was a MASSIVE ********.Insulting people that the Carnage Tournament organiser is a friend of is not particularly clever on a forum that can be read by anyone.



This time I think that only members of the forum should be allowed to attend, as all of us are nice people.All three Portent Tournaments were attended to by people outside of the forum, the Carnage Tournaments are no different and I dare say the WarSeer Tournaments will be the same. Forum members have been always free to invite their friends and gaming buddies and sometimes the organiser invites particular clubs and/or personalities to attend.

EDIT: I corrected a spelling. Damn damn damn...

Tom - Heretic
20-11-2005, 17:54
Little bit angry for you, 'seer. You must really dislike the guy.

Seemed a nice fella to me, but I never played him so my opinion is probably useless (Unlike the rest of the time, where people ask my opinion before buying a new pair of shoes)

I dare say a few Dysartians might make the trip to notts, myself included. I'll get with the persuading at the next few club nights.

Great Harlequin
20-11-2005, 19:19
However, last time there was a Necron player not even from this forum, who was a MASSIVE ********.
:eyebrows:

Listen, I've met him at a few tournaments and he's a great guy. Really friendly, he's one of the faces I really look forward to seeing again. Always a pleasure.

I can't quite see how he is, as you put it, a MASSIVE ********.


This time I think that only members of the forum should be allowed to attend, as all of us are nice people.
That really isn't practical.

Hywel
21-11-2005, 18:15
PSD is the only ******** we have at Carnage and he's kept on a lead at all times. ;)

Also, letting people bring friends and so on is an essential element in filling slots for the tourney, providing more opponents/drinking partners and maybe even recruiting new members for the forum.

nick
21-11-2005, 19:16
After talking to lav we are probably merging the tournaments. I'm sorting out some details on how it will affect carnage but we will have to see...

Nick

samael
22-11-2005, 18:11
Are there any dates available yet?

I'm coming and one of my mates wants to come too, but he's a chef so for him it's even more difficult to get time off than it is for me.


Also, letting people bring friends and so on is an essential element in filling slots for the tourney, providing more opponents/drinking partners and maybe even recruiting new members for the forum

You can never have enough drinking partners, is there someone who cares to drink along with me for an evening the next time? :angel:

Sylass
22-11-2005, 19:06
[...], is there someone who cares to drink along with me for an evening the next time? :angel:
One hour max...maybe...if I'm lucky. :skull:

samael
22-11-2005, 19:16
Well done that man, I have absolute faith in you, so that's one, any more? :D

Vaya
22-11-2005, 20:08
Count me in. I always thought Germans and Brits would be the boozehounds, but the Dutch seem to have the advantage now. ;)

Melchor
22-11-2005, 21:06
I'd love to attend, the only problem is time, and money (ok, time can be fixed).

I don't think I have the resources to get me a ticket to Notts and back... :(

Lavfluris
22-11-2005, 22:27
Are there any dates available yet?The Carnage Tournament 2006/The WarSeer Tournament 2006, or whatever it will be called, will take place on March 25th and 26th.

There will no doubt be an accomidation scheme as well, though I will limit it to no more than twenty as I'll have other things to worry about.

Vaya
23-11-2005, 07:40
I'd love to attend, the only problem is time, and money (ok, time can be fixed).

I don't think I have the resources to get me a ticket to Notts and back... :(

Hmm, bummer. Though we could always open the 'get Melchor to Notts'-fund.

Bruen
23-11-2005, 08:47
The Carnage Tournament 2006/The WarSeer Tournament 2006, or whatever it will be called, will take place on March 25th and 26th.

Cool, what are the ticket arrangements going to be?

Tom - Heretic
23-11-2005, 11:04
Usually you just paypal lavvie and he sends you a pack withyour ticket. Easy.

Samael: Drinking with you? The only problem there is that you seem to be like some kind of robot that is fuelled by pints of guiness. The more you drink the better you play the next day (and the luckier your hellblaster guns become ;))

samael
23-11-2005, 11:14
Hehe
To avoid accidents like that no Empire this year.

If Storm of chaos armies are allowed I'll come with my spankingly new Nurgle Daemonic Legion, the whole 42 man circus.

Packing was never so easy. :)

Jedi152
23-11-2005, 11:24
You can never have enough drinking partners, is there someone who cares to drink along with me for an evening the next time? :angel:
I don't have a hotel to go back to, so i can stay out 'til whenever....

:evilgrin:

redemptionist15
23-11-2005, 16:15
(and the luckier your hellblaster guns become;))

I remember him rolling a 6 on a misfire whilst firing the thing at my 5 Dark Riders+Noble, it wasn't pretty :(


If Storm of chaos armies are allowed I'll come with my spankingly new Nurgle Daemonic Legion, the whole 42 man circus.

They best be allowed or my nurgle legion won't be coming to play either!


You can never have enough drinking partners, is there someone who cares to drink along with me for an evening the next time?

Im sure teh circle will take you up on your offer :D

nick
23-11-2005, 16:42
Usually you just paypal lavvie and he sends you a pack withyour ticket. Easy.
To make things a little more official we will probably use the forum payment engine (its much better with vB 3.5) but lav will confirm all the details. (as soon as we get time to discuss them in detail).

Does anyone want to make sure any elements of the previous tournaments are included? Changes? Improvements? (i'm not saying we need to change anything but its worth asking)

Nick

Melchor
23-11-2005, 17:02
Hmm, bummer. Though we could always open the 'get Melchor to Notts'-fund.

I like that! And while you're at it, open a 'Get Melchor a car'-fund as well. :D

Tom - Heretic
23-11-2005, 17:13
To make things a little more official we will probably use the forum payment engine (its much better with vB 3.5) but lav will confirm all the details. (as soon as we get time to discuss them in detail).

Does anyone want to make sure any elements of the previous tournaments are included? Changes? Improvements? (i'm not saying we need to change anything but its worth asking)

Nick

Not really. It's been spankingly well run the times I have attended. Hats off to those involved.

Game wise, I should like more emphasis on army painting and sportsmanship rather than generalship. That would better reflect the hobby than it stands now.

Hywel
24-11-2005, 01:57
More emphasis on sportsmanship? :eek: Thats me and Guido out of the running then.

The tournaments run just lovely, my only complaint is the emphasis on playing games instead of lurking in the bar. Would a 2 or 3pm start to each day really be that unreasonable? And maybe only one match? It's awful trying to play when sleep-deprived, hungover and suffering from wind for downing the last pint too quickly.

samael
24-11-2005, 06:22
It's awful trying to play when sleep-deprived, hungover and suffering from wind for downing the last pint too quickly.

I never took you for someone who can't handle his drink Hy, live and learn. :D

Tom - Heretic
24-11-2005, 08:46
Would a 2 or 3pm start to each day really be that unreasonable? And maybe only one match?

I know - how about we have some kind of beer break halfway between our single game, maybe someone nubile young ladies can come around with jugs.;)

Lavfluris
24-11-2005, 08:52
Hmm, bummer. Though we could always open the 'get Melchor to Notts'-fund.We did have a similar idea for Lord Lucifer once but we dropped the idea as we worked out we needed around £750.00 for his flight.



Cool, what are the ticket arrangements going to be?I think Nick will be the one in charge of money as I am not a WarSeer Contributor, so you better ask him.



If Storm of chaos armies are allowed I'll come with my spankingly new Nurgle Daemonic Legion, the whole 42 man circus.Yes, the Storm of Chaos army lists will again be allowed, so you and redemptionist15 will be happy to know that.



Im sure teh circle will take you up on your offerCount me out…



Game wise, I should like more emphasis on army painting and sportsmanship rather than generalship.The only way to really achieve this is to award more points in the Army Painting, Army Selection and Sportsmanship categories. I will probably modify Generalship to be only 50% of a player’s total score.



More emphasis on sportsmanship?You forgot PSD. ;)



More emphasis on sportsmanship? :eek:The tournaments run just lovely, my only complaint is the emphasis on playing games instead of lurking in the bar.[/QUOTE]I would suggest not turning up to Carnage and staying out in Nottingham City Centre. With forty drinking establishments with longer drinking hours, I think you’ll be better off there. ;)



I know - how about we have some kind of beer break halfway between our single game, maybe someone nubile young ladies can come around with jugs.;) That’s called your lunch break…

Hywel
24-11-2005, 11:57
I never took you for someone who can't handle his drink Hy, live and learn. :D

My drink tolerance has gone dramatically downhill since I left uni and got a job. :eek:

I'll have to do some serious training over the Christmas period to provide a more suitable drinking buddy for you Samael. ;) Oh the rigours of tournament life...

Vaya
24-11-2005, 12:00
We did have a similar idea for Lord Lucifer once but we dropped the idea as we worked out we needed around £750.00 for his flight.


It won't be that bad. Just a ticket for the ferry and the public transportation to Notts. I'm sure I've got a derelict tent somewhere in my garage, so accomodation shouldn't be a problem either. ;)

Tom - Heretic
24-11-2005, 12:26
Imperial guard high commands - can we take 'em?

samael
24-11-2005, 12:42
It won't be that bad. Just a ticket for the ferry and the public transportation to Notts. I'm sure I've got a derelict tent somewhere in my garage, so accomodation shouldn't be a problem either. ;)

Don't do that , do this:http://www.bmibaby.com/bmibaby/en/index.aspx

Flight from amsterdam to nottingham and back for only 28,76 and then just get a cab.

Now tell me I'm not good.

Oh and it's March and it is in England, A TENT!!!!!!! :eek:


On an unrelated note, how can I rename a link so that it doesn't look so ridiculous, any help will be apreciated. :)

Vaya
24-11-2005, 13:31
When you insert a link, use the 'insert link' button. First you get a popup in which you can rename the link, then you get a popup where you actually insert the link.

And yes, you're good. Maybe we could team up and get all the Dutch contenders together.

redemptionist15
24-11-2005, 14:54
I'll have to do some serious training over the Christmas period to provide a more suitable drinking buddy for you Samael. Oh the rigours of tournament life...

Hehe, remember when we did this? (http://photobucket.com/albums/v427/Red_frenchie/?action=view&current=thelegacy.jpg).

Training will be done over Xmas for all the circle, even Simon :) Im sure we will be able to join Samael for at least a few hours :p

Jedi152
24-11-2005, 15:02
So who is in 'the circle'? :confused:

Tom - Heretic
24-11-2005, 15:25
This is when the circle members say there is no circle.

And it's true, since the portent inner circle died with portent :).

Great Harlequin
24-11-2005, 17:35
Does anyone want to make sure any elements of the previous tournaments are included? Changes? Improvements? (i'm not saying we need to change anything but its worth asking)
Now, I know I haven't attended a Carnage Tournament yet but I have a basic idea of what the rules are.

The only suggestion I'd like to make is to change the current Sportsmanship rules. The current system can be abused awfully. I know of a case where someone lost out to winning a Tournament due to him giving his opponent an 'Outstanding Game' and he received a 'Poor Game' result in the final game. Even though he won the game he came second overall for purposely being given a low Sportsmanship score.

An 'Outstanding Game' is supposed to be a game that you will remember for the rest of your days, the sort of game which forges new friendships even if you both live on opposite ends of the globe.

This is abused.

Canny players will always award their opponent an 'Outstanding Game' result and their opponent will feel obliged to do the same. Thus they get full points for Sportsmanship.

And so I'd like to suggest the Negative Scoring system. GW have recently agreed that it's a better system and have changed their tournaments to accommodate this.

Thanks for hearing me out.

All the very bestest,

samael
24-11-2005, 17:43
When you insert a link, use the 'insert link' button. First you get a popup in which you can rename the link, then you get a popup where you actually insert the link.



Nope, I used to get that but these days I only get the option to fill in the link, ah well another question for Nick.



Training will be done over Xmas for all the circle, even Simon Im sure we will be able to join Samael for at least a few hours

Just stick with the beer, lay off the heavy liquor and try to keep up with me. :D

First one who does a Basil fawlty impression is a.......ah no, lets not go there. ;)

Sylass
24-11-2005, 17:48
Or just type the link manually using the [ url=www.linkhere.com]custom text here[/url].

Just remove the space from the brackets and it should work.

samael
24-11-2005, 17:54
thanks Sylass I'll try that the next time.

Btw how about you, will you be attending the next tournament?

Sylass
24-11-2005, 18:07
I'd like to go again, but at the moment I've no idea if I'll be able to be there. :(

I've no new army and I'd prefer not to play with the Beastmen again. Seeing that they won Best Fantasy Army last year, I'll expect I'll need a new army to join the competition for this tournament's Best Army award...and we all know that that's the best award together with the Best Sportmanship one. ;)

On top of that I've no idea if I can get the days around the tournament weekend off...I'll have to wait for my "work calendar update" to see if it's possible or not.

But then there's still the problem with the new army. No idea what army to start and I fear I'll lack the time to build a new 2000 point army until March anyway. :skull:

Hywel
24-11-2005, 22:54
Hehe, remember when we did this? (http://photobucket.com/albums/v427/Red_frenchie/?action=view&current=thelegacy.jpg).


That was a good weekend.

I have a weekend back in studentville starting tomorrow with the old crowd, so that should up the tolerance a bit!

...and Sylass, bring the same army.. I've won best army twice with mine :o, just paint a few new units and conversions for it so you don't feel so cheap. :p

Lavfluris
24-11-2005, 23:55
Imperial guard high commands - can we take 'em?I’m afraid the Imperial Guard High Command and the Chosen of Ahriman are not allowed, even if the latter would be so useful in the army I intend to field at Carnage. :(



Training will be done over Xmas for all the circle, even SimonI’m afraid I will not be able to do much drinking over the next few months, so I’ll be even worse of than usual.



So who is in 'the circle'?The Inner Circle started after the second Portent Tournament last May when four individuals, who went to said event, brought the weekend joke onto Portent. Certain other individuals found this joke to be offensive and jumped to the defence of the person it concerned. It later transpired the ‘victim’ though nothing of the joke and things diminished from there.

One of the comments made was that the protagonists were part of an ‘Inner Circle’. The name stuck and is know a commonly held joke among it’s members. ;)



And so I'd like to suggest the Negative Scoring system.I swear that you put me off marriage as I’d hate to think that there are wives as nagging as you. :p

On a serious note, I will look into this.



First one who does a Basil fawlty impression is a.......ah no, lets not go there.It would be a shame if your payment was mysteriously lost. ;)

Great Harlequin
25-11-2005, 16:35
I swear that you put me off marriage as I’d hate to think that there are wives as nagging as you. :p
Hey, I'm not finished yet! :p

If I can I'd like to suggest that at the start of the game, after you have rolled for a mission, that one of the opponents should roll for scenario special rules. Namely Gamma or Omega.

Why?

Omega missions are pretty essential in a Tournament these days. Omega utilizes the Escalation rules. Tournament organisers realised, finally, that Escalation was needed to bring more balance to the games in general.

Armies which maximised out on Vehicles, Jump Pack troopers and the like used to have a significant advantage over others with less. The Escalation rule is the remedy. It adds a role of unpredictability in the games as you don't know whether you'll get it or not and when your units will come on if you do.

This, then, really tests the player's generalship to see whether he can do the following things:

Still win in a situation where it may not suit his force,
Formulate plans during the game as units come on the board,
Be a lot more flexible with his/her force.

It adds balance to the game and seperates the good generals from the exceptional ones.

All the very bestest,

Bruen
25-11-2005, 17:21
Lavfluris whats the situation with Forgeworld rules and non-codex lists (WD, CA etc)?

Tom - Heretic
25-11-2005, 21:47
Bad Harlequin! No no no!

Escalation is bad. It slows up games terribly, and makes me lose more games!

I can't see an upside.

Lavfluris
25-11-2005, 23:16
Omega missions are pretty essential in a Tournament these days. Omega utilizes the Escalation rules.I’ll consider it though will more than likely avoid including the Omega level for now.



Lavfluris whats the situation with Forgeworld rules and non-codex lists (WD, CA etc)?At present, Carnage only makes use of Codex army lists. Army lists published outside of Codexes are not presently allowed, nor are ForgeWorld units, but I will be reviewing this come December when I need to finish the Rules Packs.

nick
25-11-2005, 23:47
I’ll consider it though will more than likely avoid including the Omega level for now.


At present, Carnage only makes use of Codex army lists. Army lists published outside of Codexes are not presently allowed, nor are ForgeWorld units, but I will be reviewing this come December when I need to finish the Rules Packs.
Remember some of the WarSeer army might be FW units :) I'm already trying to secure a MkIVc Predator for us. I suppose it could be a standard one for now.

edit: sorry lav tells me the rules are the same even though the FW site says the rules are in their imperial armour book... damn them tricking me into buying a book as well.

Nick

Brushmonkey
25-11-2005, 23:54
I would be happy to attend if it was at Warhammer World.

Guido le Wombat
26-11-2005, 00:10
I'm also seriously out of drinking practise atm :(

Really struggled to get passed 15 pints in a whole afternoon, will do my best to get back on form by the tourny tho.

I will also train in the arts of 'being offensive to someone ive only just met', 'gently pushing people with dodgy hips into windows' and 'anti-sportsmanship'.

Sylass
28-11-2005, 10:08
[...]...and Sylass, bring the same army.. I've won best army twice with mine :o, just paint a few new units and conversions for it so you don't feel so cheap. :p
Nice to know, but I hoped to have an elite army ready for the tournaments I plan to visit. Carrying tons of miniatures with you isn't really that much fun...especially if you are visiting tournaments in a forreign country (transport problems andstuff on top of the usual time problems when playing games).

Not even sure if I'll find the time to build that unit of Bestigors I planned to add to beasts...atm I have time problems converting and painting that single Chaplain for the WarSeer army! :eek:

samael
28-11-2005, 18:19
<starts conga line>

I just got permision to take two days off in March, Warseer tournament here I come.

Lavfluris
28-11-2005, 18:45
I just got permision to take two days of in March, Warseer tournament here I come.... not Samael. ;)

samael
28-11-2005, 18:55
<Drags Lav in Conga line>

C'mon, you're delirious with joy I just know it. :D

And like I promised no empire/helblaster this year.

Lavfluris
28-11-2005, 18:57
C'mon, you're delirious with joy I just know it. :DOh you know I am, but I dread being forced to match rounds with you.

Forced by the Circle that is, bloody bullies the two of them. :(

Hywel
28-11-2005, 23:05
It's not bullying, it's "polite insistence" (that can soon turn impolite).

Well with Samael down to go, gamers will positively flock to the event. Flock I tells ya! I wasn't playing at the last one you attended Samael so never got to play you, let's hope this time is different...

I here the call on elite armies Sylass. That was my primary concern with the last tournament: deploy and move quickly. In fact this led to us inventing the smallest number of model lists we could in the evenings... maybe I will convert that tzeentch lord on dragon after all...

Already sounds like we're going to have a good gathering.

starlight
28-11-2005, 23:09
March you say?

<counts pennies>

Since my New Year has just undergone a shake-up, I shall re-examine my schedule.:D

Rik Valdis
28-11-2005, 23:52
Brilliant, in the easter holidays, avoiding anything that I already have planned. I'm in. I have said that for all the Portent tournaments and then not gone but this time I mean it.

Sylass
29-11-2005, 04:41
[...] I here the call on elite armies Sylass. That was my primary concern with the last tournament: deploy and move quickly. In fact this led to us inventing the smallest number of model lists we could in the evenings... maybe I will convert that tzeentch lord on dragon after all...[...]
Don't forget to get Asarnil & his Green Dragon too! :p

redemptionist15
29-11-2005, 09:00
Don't forget to get Asarnil & his Green Dragon too!

Of course not Sylass, remember the important rule, you can't spell Warhammer without DRAGON! :D

Darkseer
29-11-2005, 09:12
Sorry I've been away from this thread for a while...


Listen, I've met him at a few tournaments and he's a great guy. Really friendly, he's one of the faces I really look forward to seeing again. Always a pleasure.

I can't quite see how he is, as you put it, a MASSIVE ********.

There were 2 necron players.
Are we all talking about the same one?

Cos one of them was a really nice guy.

But I digress. At the end of the day it's a tournament setting where all is fair in love and warhammer.

I'm tempted to take Necrons as it is.

Lavfluris
29-11-2005, 09:15
Are we all talking about the same one?Great Harlequin and myself are speaking about the gentleman with the red and silver Necrons. In other words, the person you were speaking about.

boogle
29-11-2005, 18:39
having not gone through the rest of the posts what decisons have we come to, is it going to be just 40K or are we going to have games of Warmachine, Conforntation, Urban war or SST there, either way, i'll be up for it (as long as i can bring my Elysians)

Darkseer
30-11-2005, 10:58
Great Harlequin and myself are speaking about the gentleman with the red and silver Necrons. In other words, the person you were speaking about.

Having now played the Necron army myself, I can understand what it was that he was doing and I apologise for my judgement of him.

However, by not explaining what he was doing very well, measuring deepstrike (which I do not believe is legal to measure precisely where you want to land before rolling) and using weird counters to mark knocked down necrons instead of lying them on their backs....It's no wonder that I was suspicious of his playing.

Tom - Heretic
30-11-2005, 12:32
Boogle: I doubt it. It's always been solely 40K and WFB, especially since it's being held at warhammer world ;)
Not that I wouldn't love to bring along my denny assassin list to smush lavflurvis with...

Lavfluris
07-12-2005, 17:26
Here's an update of sorts.

Me and Nick haven't spoken about the event for a while now, so it's still yet to be finally arranged. I blame him being busy and me being absent from all things WarSeer. Rest assured that something will be happening on that weekend and that I have already put some work in preparation for when the tickets go on sale in early January.

Darkseer
28-12-2005, 17:07
yay! :D

Any idea of the price or if there will be a hotel?

gortexgunnerson
29-12-2005, 15:16
Hey everyone,

Not really adding anything except my interest, I can do that weekend if they don't force me to work can also drag Dodgy_Ed along whether he agrees or not lol

Dodgy Ed
30-12-2005, 14:27
Well I guess I'm in then:p My Dwarves have a few scores to settle

Lavfluris
30-12-2005, 19:45
Right, tickets go on sale Jan 6th, the day of Ephihany. They will be priced at £30.00.

I will also be doing a hotel booking, but it will only be for a limited humber of people, say around sixteen. This will be for the Gresham Hotel in Nottingham City Centre. I'll have a price when I ring through to them next week.

Crube
30-12-2005, 20:50
Ohhhhh excitment... :D

I assume that the T08G peeps will be saved a ticket....

Lardidar
31-12-2005, 18:33
Cool, I will be there :)

How many tickets are there?

Great Harlequin
31-12-2005, 18:53
Right, tickets go on sale Jan 6th, the day of Ephihany. They will be priced at £30.00.
Oh good, the day of Epiphany. ;)

Well, that's saved me £20, I expected the tickets to be in the region of £50! :eek:


I assume that the T08G peeps will be saved a ticket....
If not, I know where he lives. :evilgrin:

All the very bestest,

Lavfluris
31-12-2005, 19:32
Well, that's saved me £20, I expected the tickets to be in the region of £50! :eek:That £20.00 can be used to bribe me. ;)

Get on MSN!

samael
01-01-2006, 11:39
Ok I'll need two ticket and you can write me up for 2 sleeping places as well Lav, though not with the missus this year.

Hywel
01-01-2006, 18:47
though not with the missus this year.

Does she know about this? :eek: ;)

Crube
01-01-2006, 20:08
Ok I'll need two ticket and you can write me up for 2 sleeping places as well Lav, though not with the missus this year.


:eek:

*searches Random Musings thread for tales of Samael's impending bachelor hood...*



As always folks, there's one place at Chez Crube, if you dont mind being a bit out of the centre - (Does include transport to and from WHW though...)

PM me if you're interested....

Lardidar
01-01-2006, 20:23
anyone know any other hotels in or around Lenton?

Just incase all hotel places are gone by the time I buy my ticket.

samael
02-01-2006, 08:16
Does she know about this? :eek:

Yes, she does, she sees it as a weekend off. :D




*searches Random Musings thread for tales of Samael's impending bachelor hood...*

I've been acting like one for years acording to her. ;)

and thanks for the offer Crube, but I think I'll bunk up with my mate, we've been roomies for years now during tournaments, it just wouldn't be the same. :eek:

MacVurrich
02-01-2006, 13:07
anyone know any other hotels in or around Lenton?

Just incase all hotel places are gone by the time I buy my ticket.
You've got the Travle Lodge in the Marine area appx ten mins away from WHW which GW use for most of "their" guest at WHW

Lardidar
02-01-2006, 13:53
You've got the Travle Lodge in the Marine area appx ten mins away from WHW which GW use for most of "their" guest at WHW

Tnanks alot!

that will help me out

infernus31
02-01-2006, 15:13
Me Bert n Ermie and a few mates from uni might go along though finances are proving a thorny subject at the mo being as we're all students :cries:

Darkseer
03-01-2006, 08:07
I'll be crashing at Anvils Hammer's place.

The Deathwing shall be there, bringing their righteous fury :D

Killswitch<>
03-01-2006, 11:21
so is this tourney happening and were also how many points, sos i couldnt be bothered to read all 13 or so pages tehee!
Id love to attend this tourney, it sounds awsome, hopefully ill have my eldar done by then but i dought it, so u will hav to face my marines hehe. p.s. anyone want to chack out my eldar list pls do, its in the army list section cheers!

Great Harlequin
03-01-2006, 11:25
You've got the Travle Lodge in the Marine area appx ten mins away from WHW which GW use for most of "their" guest at WHW
Yeah, that's where I usually stay when I go to Warhammer World. I would have said it's closer to about 15 minutes away but it's thereabouts. It's relatively accessible, cheap and cosy plus there's some decent places nearby to have breakfast.

All the very bestest,

redemptionist15
03-01-2006, 12:15
Stick me down for a Hotel spot. :)

Bruen
03-01-2006, 13:55
Can we please either have a new thread or a consolidated reply giving all the necessary details including how to get tickets?

Lardidar
03-01-2006, 14:12
Can we please either have a new thread or a consolidated reply giving all the necessary details including how to get tickets?

I agree that would be handy.

Lavfluris
03-01-2006, 17:27
Can we please either have a new thread or a consolidated reply giving all the necessary details including how to get tickets?This will hopefully appear on Thursday when everything is finalised.

Crube
04-01-2006, 08:37
Huh.

I thought the same thing last night, whilst trying to go to sleep... you beat me to it lardidar...

*waits patiently til Thursday*

Bruen
04-01-2006, 13:14
This will hopefully appear on Thursday when everything is finalised.

Cool :) Thanks.

Darkseer
05-01-2006, 11:00
:D Will there be coffee and donoughts this time?

Hywel
05-01-2006, 11:36
It doesn't suit GW's pattern of business to introduce new perks, only to take them away.

So I doubt it, and we'll be lucky if there are seats.

samael
05-01-2006, 12:10
:D Will there be coffee and donoughts this time?


There where the last time I attended so,


It doesn't suit GW's pattern of business to introduce new perks, only to take them away.

So I doubt it, and we'll be lucky if there are seats.

does this mean they took them away during the summer tournament?

Could this mean that they'll take away the beerpump this time <gasp> :eek:

Lavfluris
05-01-2006, 12:34
Will there be coffee and donoughts this time?We only recieve coffee and doughnuts if we also have the evening meal. As we are only going to have lunches on both days, there will be no coffee and doughnuts.

However, I'll speak to a chap we both know at Warhammer World and see what we can arrange in the mornings. ;)

Crube
05-01-2006, 12:42
We only recieve coffee and dough noughts if we also have the evening meal. As we are only going to have lunches on both days, there will be coffee and dough noughts.

However, I'll speak to a chap we both know at Warhammer World and see what we can arrange in the mornings. ;)


Surely you mean there will be NO coffee and doughnuts...?

Lavfluris
05-01-2006, 12:44
Surely you mean there will be NO coffee and doughnuts...?Correct. :o

Crube
05-01-2006, 12:48
How about tea and bisciuts then....

Lavfluris
05-01-2006, 12:50
How about tea and bisciuts then....Only if you can provide them, old boy. ;)

Hywel
05-01-2006, 15:16
does this mean they took them away during the summer tournament?

Could this mean that they'll take away the beerpump this time <gasp> :eek:

You better believe they did, I almost started throwing furniture around but was too tired so just bought a coffee.

If they take away the beer taps, I challenge you to a table and benches throwing competition. The one who causes the most damage (in terms of money) is the winner - a bonus £1k on top of your total if you're the first to get arrested. ;)

HubertCumberdale
05-01-2006, 15:20
i would be up for that. sounds like a good idea

Wez
05-01-2006, 15:55
Hopefully I'll be there as well.:)


Ok I'll need two ticket and you can write me up for 2 sleeping places as well Lav, though not with the missus this year.
Before I read on, I thought you meant two for yourself, which I'm still surprised you're not actually doing.:p

-Wez

samael
05-01-2006, 16:50
Hopefully I'll be there as well.:)


Before I read on, I thought you meant two for yourself, which I'm still surprised you're not actually doing.:p

-Wez

Hehe last time our room had one double-ish bed and one single, we decided that it would be best if I had the double one for myself. :)

Lavfluris
06-01-2006, 21:16
Right, the two new threads are up as sticky threads, so look for those to continue discussion. Payment options should be sorted now as well.