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Aegius
19-09-2008, 14:15
Hi all.

I've been playing 40K for somewhere around 18 years now. I've dabbled in all sorts of terrain projects from the templates that you used to get in white dwarf, to spending hundreds of pounds on forgeworld terrain. Whilst I've always had terrain to play my games on, none of it has ever been really impressive.

I spent a few years working in GW stores in the south west a few years ago and I was able to learn how to build scenery to a reasonably high standard, since then I've mainly played in GW stores, so I've had no reason to build my own scenery.

About a year ago, a group of friends that I gamed with decided that they were fed up of playing in a store crowded by screaming 8 year-olds, worrying that their figures were going to be stolen when they weren't looking(believe me, it happens.). The result of this decision was that I dusted off all my old terrain, be it cornflake box bunkers or forgeworld tank factory and start gaming around one of our houses.

whilst terrain is just terrain, I had gotten used to playing on nice themed terrain built in GW stores, so I've not been enjoying my games as much just recently. It is from this unhappyness that I have decided to build my own themed scatter terrain. I've also decided to make this log for myself to help me with the project, I have no end in mind for the building, I'm just going to keep on building whenever the inspiration hits me. I may spend months where I do nothing, and there may be months where I give daily updates.

As pay day isn't until next weekend and I have no money to buy materials, there will be very little in the way of posts until next week.

CYA there.

Alsharoth
20-09-2008, 07:42
Can't wait to see the results, Over on a competitors site I've started a budget site
Cheep scenery on 40konline (http://www.40konline.com/community/index.php?topic=169889.0)
These tropical scenery trees cost lest the UK50p each to make
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/AJB2K3/scenery/plants-1.jpg
The thread is a sort of blog of my scenery colletion.

Aegius
20-09-2008, 10:48
I will be keeping an eye on that project log, the trees look really good and are a LOT cheaper than what I had in mind, a bag of 8 gw trees is £20. /heads off to nearest pet shop.

Bahir
20-09-2008, 10:53
Nice, simple and creative. Nicely done!

Alsharoth
20-09-2008, 11:45
Well I found out something interesting last night,
You can build 10 in the few precious mins before a club but they block line of sight.
Be interesting trying to fight through a board with LOS 1 inch.

N810
20-09-2008, 14:21
Yea I have a bunch of plants I have been meaning
to do a similar project...

I have to say that yours came out great :D
It's good to see someone ealse making budget scenery.

Aegius
20-09-2008, 14:41
When the cities of death buildings came out a few years ago I got hold of a few boxed sets in order to build a giant sanctus imperialis. I never really got very far on it as I decided that it was a bit too expensive. I found the building that I had made today. So I tore a few parts off of it to make it more 40K friendly as scatter terrain. Here is what I've got to work with:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0851.jpg

I'm going to make a base for it and get it to the standard that I'd like all of my terrain to reach, that should keep me going for a little while.

Aegius
20-09-2008, 15:40
Well, I've cut the bases from foamcard and I've glued the building to the base, along with some rubble. I need to wait for the pva to dry before I go any further.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0853.jpg

I'm thinking that I am going to fortify the building with razorwire and sandbags, I'm also going to make a gun emplacement outside.

Kronos
20-09-2008, 15:44
That sanctus imperialis is looking promising, will look very cool once painted, will keep an eye on your log for updates, what are you planning after the sanctus ?

Aegius
20-09-2008, 16:09
I'm probably just going to work on some woods after the sanctum. I need to bulk out my terrain collection and get rid of a load of the old/obsolete stuff, the quickest way I can think of doing this is by making some woods. Either at the same time as building the woods or afterwards, I'm going to make some old school polystyrene hills, sure, the plastic ones are nice, but I can make a whole load of hills from polystyrene for the same price.

Alsharoth
20-09-2008, 16:32
I'm probably just going to work on some woods after the sanctum. I need to bulk out my terrain collection and get rid of a load of the old/obsolete stuff, the quickest way I can think of doing this is by making some woods. Either at the same time as building the woods or afterwards, I'm going to make some old school polystyrene hills, sure, the plastic ones are nice, but I can make a whole load of hills from polystyrene for the same price.

Get some choped up sprue on that base to look like bricks,
BTW don't forget to make some pan scourer bushes/hedges for your collection.
Guide to follow soon :D

Aegius
20-09-2008, 16:34
Once the pva has dried, I'll be able to remove the excess slate, then the sprue chopping frenzy will begin. thanks for the advice, I was just going to leave it at bits of slate, but I think that the sprues will make an amazing addition. :D

Alsharoth
20-09-2008, 18:17
Once the pva has dried, I'll be able to remove the excess slate, then the sprue chopping frenzy will begin. thanks for the advice, I was just going to leave it at bits of slate, but I think that the sprues will make an amazing addition. :D

You will be amazed with what non gw peps can do with the sprues.:D
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/AJB2K3/scenery/warob01.jpg

Aegius
21-09-2008, 11:11
Well the pva from yesterday has dried, so I was able to put some bricks made from sprue parts and a little more small slate. Yesterday I also added some extra touches in the form of razorwire and a piece of damaged girder.

Anyway, thats enough talk for now, have a look at some pictures:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0854.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0855.jpg

I also found a couple of old 40K ruined building sections yesterday, so I mounted them on foamboard and added some medium/small slate. After I've finished posting I'm going to put some sprue bricks and a little more small slate:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0856.jpg

Okinava
21-09-2008, 12:22
Are you going to texture the ground surrounding the ruins? Now it looks a bit barren and not very ruin-y.

Aegius
21-09-2008, 12:37
absolutely, I haven't decided whether I'm going to use sand, textured paint or roughcoat to texture it yet, I'll probably use a mixture of the 3 in all honesty.

Aegius
21-09-2008, 14:02
I found a predator that I no longer need anymore, I've decided that I'm going to turn it into terrain instead of leaving it in the depths of my cupboard.

So far I've glued it to a foamboard base and I've made it look like it has thrown a track while reversing through a low wall.

Alsharoth
21-09-2008, 18:59
Looking good so far but got another tip,
Garden diy stores are a greate place for free scenery items if your cleaver about getting it.
E.G. careful picking of stone samples from the stone area can lead to good useable pieces of if you are light fingered, you can gets lots of material.

Aegius
22-09-2008, 18:12
Here is the damaged predator I've been working on.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0857.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0858.jpg

It is very likely that there will not be any further updates until the weekend as materials and free time are both very limited.

bugbait_nz
24-09-2008, 00:07
The Sanctus is a good size, just adding the barbed wire has made it look a lot more interesting.

How trashed is the Pred going to look?

Bugbait out

imperial_scholar
24-09-2008, 00:37
Here is the damaged predator I've been working on.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0857.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0858.jpg

It is very likely that there will not be any further updates until the weekend as materials and free time are both very limited.

I dunno, doesn't look damaged enough. I've always had a secret fantasy of taking a band saw to my old predator (Not predator Destructor because when I bought it, it was only predator) and making it into terrain. however, I'd use the 2nd half on a different piece of terrain :D.

I think it needs to 'sink' a little.

bugbait_nz
24-09-2008, 06:10
I guess damage depends on how long it has been there for.

Old wrecked Tank linky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/macjewell/2432541526/)

Not so old tank linky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/laptopandapassport/1969449279/)

I think all of the weapons would have been salvaged or looted.

Bugbait out

Aegius
24-09-2008, 18:06
I think all of the weapons would have been salvaged or looted.


and that was exactly what I was looking for. I had no idea of what to do with the weapons. Looking at pictures of destroyed tanks, I've generally noticed that the weapons are intact and the tank usually looks drivable. I'm going to loot the weapons from the predator and maybe use them in another piece of terrain.

imperial_scholar
25-09-2008, 01:23
and that was exactly what I was looking for. I had no idea of what to do with the weapons. Looking at pictures of destroyed tanks, I've generally noticed that the weapons are intact and the tank usually looks drivable. I'm going to loot the weapons from the predator and maybe use them in another piece of terrain.

It needs to look destroyed then. It just looks like the turret has been moved. Battle damaged is all you got. Modern tanks don't have sponsons though. So I think you need to put a actual hole in the side of the tank, add scorches, flatten it out. Your predator looks like its only been immobilized.

Check it out:
Ex 1 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/113_jpg.jpg)
Ex 2 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/large304459_jpg.jpg)
Ex 3 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/r603947922_jpg.jpg)
Ex 4 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/u30_jpg.jpg)
Ex 5 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/u37_jpg.jpg)
Ex 6 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/us12_jpg.jpg)
Ex 7 (http://rense.com/1.imagesG/u34_jpg.jpg)
Ex 8 (http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/astk_merkava_d_in_beirut.jpg)
A whole thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126915)
Tank in Georgia 2008 (http://warisboring.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/img9559kg4.jpg)

Given, most tanks are intact after its been 'wrecked', a really blown up tank is a husk of its former glory.

imperial_scholar
25-09-2008, 01:33
and that was exactly what I was looking for. I had no idea of what to do with the weapons. Looking at pictures of destroyed tanks, I've generally noticed that the weapons are intact and the tank usually looks drivable. I'm going to loot the weapons from the predator and maybe use them in another piece of terrain.

Keep the sponsons there, take the turrent off, have some cotten (blackened) coming out where the turn would have been. Its not uncommon that tank turrets blow off from an explosion.

BladeWalker
25-09-2008, 02:25
Be careful using foamcore as your bases, it will warp if you use too much glue when applying your sand/etc. I have found it better to use MDF or other types of hardboard rather than foamcore or cardboard for basing. Cool building though!

Aegius
25-09-2008, 18:26
Be careful using foamcore as your bases, it will warp if you use too much glue when applying your sand/etc. I have found it better to use MDF or other types of hardboard rather than foamcore or cardboard for basing. Cool building though!

The only reason I have used foamboard for the bases, is that it's all I had at the time. Tomorrow is payday, this log should be making a change from now on, all future terrain will be on mdf or something. :D

Aegius
27-09-2008, 13:58
Hooray for pay day!! I've been able to get to my local hobby store today and pick up some new bits and pieces, here is what I've done so far on the sanctum. I still need to pick up some textured paint for the base.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0859.jpg

Hideous Loon
28-09-2008, 15:20
The ruined building embankment is inspirational, kudos. The other pieces (especially the busted Predator) also looks good, but the building stands out as a fine example of 40k terrain.

Aegius
29-09-2008, 17:56
Ok, here come some update pictures.

I've finally started painting the Sanctum, I've done all of the greys so far and have started working on the metallics, still quite a way to go though.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/DSC00545.jpg

Also, my friends have decided to start buying some terrain for us to use as well, but guess who has been given it to do, thats right, I have.

So far I've been given a manufactorum, I didn't realise how few parts there were in these boxed sets, I'd forgotten that I used 3 Sanctums for the building that I've already started painting.

Anywho, here are 2 shots of the manufactorum building that I've assembled:

front
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/DSC00547.jpg


and back. (or is it the other way around?)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/DSC00548.jpg

Updates may be a bit slow from now on, as I'm picking up a thunderhawk transporter this evening and I'd really like to make it something special, I'll still be adding to this log though as I get a little too bored of doing the same thing all the time, and boy o boy are those forgeworld models big.

Aegius
12-02-2009, 13:17
not particularly impressive, but I've made some alien trees to use in my games of 40k. For the number of trees I was looking at, it would have cost me a fortune. I decided to make something that looked a little more alien instead.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0141.jpg

Wolf Scout Ewan
12-02-2009, 14:01
Polystyrene eggs 4tw! Cheap and cheerful good job!

Aegius
12-02-2009, 14:14
Yups. works out at about £1 per tree(?) instead of about £3 for premade or plastic trees. :D

Håkan
18-02-2009, 09:06
What are you using for sandbags? I've never found a real good solution for that other than green stuff and that takes lots of time and money.

Aegius
10-04-2009, 14:17
What are you using for sandbags? I've never found a real good solution for that other than green stuff and that takes lots of time and money.

oops. Sorry, I've not been on this log for ages, I've been concentrating on armies and gaming more recently and I've only just started to build terrain again after getting a new tv stand (hehe free polystyrene).

I used miliput to make the sandbags, its basically the same as greenstuff but a LOT cheaper. Its not as good to sculpt with, but when all you need are sandbags, why would you pay for greenstuff.

I've made some hills in the style of a strip mine over the last few days and painted a few more cactus trees. Unfortunately, I don't have a camera on me at the moment, so I can't take any pictures. I will take some piccies once I've got the camera though.

Aegius
13-04-2009, 14:46
I've got hold of the camera at last and now I can give you some pictures of the hills that I have done this week:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/aegius/PICT0330.jpg

relatively simple to do. They take about an hour to make if you just ignore the drying time. Drying time sucks. lol

Colonel Marbi Chora
10-08-2009, 09:57
Cool terrain so far! I am really liking the sanctum, it looks like it would be a lot of fun to use for a game of cityfight.

Smiles.
02-05-2010, 23:06
Love the predetor, the way the guns are facing it makes it look as if its fending off enemies from all angles, good work!

Fantastico
06-05-2010, 14:18
Sanctum is superb!

omgitsduane
07-05-2010, 03:51
I want to see much more of this for sure!

the_xander
12-05-2010, 08:41
i really like the scatter hills and the ruined building. should be pretty sweet when all finished!