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Genoside07
09-01-2009, 01:30
I got some Hirst Art molds for Christmas and started to build Space Hulk
board; I plan to build the pieces to match the orginal space hulk board
sections but my single square will be an inch and half vs one inch on the
orginal board. Also I am having a tough time figuring out how high I want
to make the walls. My starter piece I have two and half inch tall walls
and that seems a little high and very difficult for me to reach in to get
the models.. But One and half inch walls seem a little short..
Look at the picture and let me know what you think.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1242.jpg 2.5 inch wall front view
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1243.jpg 2.5 inch wall side view with door
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1244.jpg2.5 inch wall back view threw door
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1245.jpg 1.5 inch wall

Mott
09-01-2009, 18:42
2.5 all the way, It just looks amazing that tall, the 1.5 is simply too short, Im looking forward to seeing this painted up with stealers charging down the hallways!

Lithian
09-01-2009, 20:21
Those look really cool. :cool:

Iíll just have to say from an experience standpoint that the high wall does indeed look the coolest, but the low wall will be a ton more practical for playing, especially for the hallways. Anything less than 6 inches wide will be a pain, so I would suggest an alternative of short hallways, but full size for rooms. Just my 0.02. ;)

N810
09-01-2009, 20:48
2.5 looks great, but you might have to make a push stick to move models down narrow halls.

swamp_slug
10-01-2009, 13:57
I'm going to cast my vote for 2.5" walls, they just look more realistic and natural. You can even set the board up with the genestealers hidden by putting roof sections on it and only removing them once the terminators enter the room, much like the FW Anphelion base.

To move the models I would invest in a pair of tongs and glue a little bit of foam onto the ends so they don't damage the models (the foam from the blister packs should be fine).

Dalanshin
10-01-2009, 15:55
This is a great project, I am super excited to see your progress! I am a HUMONGOUS SH fan and have been planning to make a 3d board myself- the Hirst Arts stuff looks very good- I'd suggest a few extra bits of detail like cables and such- anything you can think of- to add just a bit more depth. Definitely go with the taller walls.

AWESOME!!

PS- if you wouldn't mind, can you put a link up to the molds used?

Grazie!

Genoside07
11-01-2009, 00:10
I have decided to go with the higher walls.. Here is a few more pics
of the corner and the new three section board piece. I have thought
about using some of the FW wall pieces also to add something different
but that will will try that later. As for having trouble moving the figs
around.. I will just have to deal with the bitching.. Besides you know
what they say about gamers that have big fingers..;)
I hope to finish a few more pieces, then start priming; my first goal
is to make enough to build the Suicide Mission and then go from there.
As for the molds I used here is the list and prices along with
the web address for Hirst Arts
Pipeline Floor Mold #273 Price $29.00
Large Deck Mold #278 Price $29.00
Large Grate Mold #277 Price $29.00
Starship Wall Mold #301 Price $34.00
Cargo Bay Accessory Mold #302 Price $34.00
http://www.hirstarts.com/

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1247.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1248.jpg

Malakai
11-01-2009, 02:39
Cool project. I'll be watching this one with a lot of interest.

Braad
11-01-2009, 09:21
For playing convenience I say go with the idea of short for narrow pathways and long for big halls. Just 'looking pretty' won't help you play the game.

Lord Malorne
11-01-2009, 09:54
Very nice...and is that a dragonlance book I spot in the distance :D.

Genoside07
11-01-2009, 12:23
Actually its the Dragonlance Board game I am trying to trade off..

Does Anytime you post pictures it has to go threw moderators??
Posted updated pictures last night and still not seen them.

N810
11-01-2009, 16:55
um the pictures look just fine.
maybe you where trying to post too many before,
you can only do 4 per post.

the space hulk is coming along nicely. :)

Velsharoon
11-01-2009, 17:51
Thats really awesome

Wolf Scout Ewan
11-01-2009, 22:19
Man I love hirst arts stuff.

A great start I will be watching!

Nephilim of Sin
11-01-2009, 23:40
The higher walls and 'rule of cool' are completely the way to go. Especially since you are going through this much effort already, there is no point in only doing it in half-measures.

However, not being familiar with casting and such, would it not be possible to maybe 'pin' some of the walls in place, which could be removed for moving the models around? Not sure if that would destroy the work or not, but could make it easier in some of those hard to reach areas.

Genoside07
13-01-2009, 23:34
I have been working out a few problems and what I have learned from them..

1) The "blips" are going to be a pain the butt in the narrow halls with
high walls. I have decided to break off one wall to open it up... pictures
coming soon of what I have done.

2) When I ran out of dental plaster I went to Lowe's and bought some
"water puddy" in hopes it was the close to what I been using.. it is NOT
" you get what you pay for" i now have a resupply of plaster.

3) I have found I can leave pieces in the mold that I dont need at the
time to reduce making pieces I dont need; I dont need 300 barrels and
crates.

Once I finish the first room section I will post an update.

Codsticker
14-01-2009, 01:33
Have you considered Hydrocal? It's great stuff and may be cheaper than dental plaster.

Edit: come to think of it, it may be the same stuff just packaged differently.

Tsubaki Sanjuro
14-01-2009, 02:03
Rather then remove the walls, why not just make taller blips using flight stands?

Zark the Damned
14-01-2009, 10:04
Loving the idea of this, it's looking great so far.

Personally, I would have doorways have the full 2.5" height, with removable doors so you can open/close them, and then corridors at 1.5" for ease of gaming. However, you could also build 1" height extensions which are removable, best of both worlds.

nyys
18-01-2009, 01:57
I really want to try and build a space hulk board... maybe the next project. Looking good, and now I'm feeling some of the frustration that others voice in seeing my own terrain isn't in the painting stage yet. This is going to look great painted and we want the pay off now. :)

Dalanshin
18-01-2009, 13:20
Hey Genoside! I sent you a PM- check your box. (Just making sure- I often don't notice the PM's waiting for me)

Genoside07
23-01-2009, 11:36
Well no new update...Sorry... Work is trying to kill me ...and any
free time lately; I've been addicted to Fallout 3..
I did get a chance to surf the net a little bit and found I am not
the only one that has the idea for a Hirst Art Space hulk board..
Here are some links to other peoples work until I can get started
again on mine..

This guy went all out... magnets to hold the board together and
everything...Great Stuff
http://www.vitruvianzeke.com/ProjectHulk/ProjectHulk.html
This one is not a space hulk board but really inspires me...
http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=2915

dicnar
29-01-2009, 15:34
Wow, Really amaizing! As for how high to build I post you some pics of what inpired me to build A space hulk board. I menaged to build few sections but as for now i had to stop due the lack of time. Here are the pics ( not mine, the ones that inpired me) unfortuanetly i don't remember where i got them.
As you can see, those are very high but also very wide so there's a lot of space for your fingers. That guy had it all very well thinked. I wonder if he finished that board.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1950/hpim2057rm7.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8819/hpim1903ta8.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2606/hpim1992il5.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2876/hpim1489pb0.jpg

Dictator
01-02-2009, 01:26
Ridiculously awesome looking space hulk concept. Looks great

Brother Constantine
01-02-2009, 22:19
This is probhably one of the coolest projects I have ever seen!!! I love Space Hulk and you are doing it proud!!
I think the tall walls are great, and the fact that the "new" bigger Terminator bases fit is awesome.
The Blips really will be a problem though eh :( You could always use a Stealer model to represent the blip and have a number painted on the bottom of the base so that when it comes into line of sight you can look under the base and place the represented amount of models. Or you could just model some other kind of Blip that is usable...Like a flying base for example :confused:
Are your pieces indipendant like the SH floor tiles so you can arrange them according to the mission? or are they fixed?

Fantastic job, thanks for posting.

AgentOrange
20-03-2009, 21:42
That's awesome, good to know that Space Hulk has not been forgotten. I also like dark colours that you're using, they fits perfect with the picture of Space Hulk corridors I have in my head!

Hellfury
24-03-2009, 11:06
I agree that 2+" walls are a bit to unwieldy. I am doing a similar project right now and I have found that making the walls about 1.75" tall is enough to make sure that the walls are both high and low enough to make it appear realistic, and yet playable at the same time.

This human example I have scaled to be the exact height of a terminator without his base.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/colorcrayons/Space%20Hulk/Interiordoorandscale.jpg

You can see here that the terminators head is visible from a relatively low viewing level. (the pink parts are excess that need to be removed from the tile)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/colorcrayons/Space%20Hulk/parrallaxandexcess.jpg









More examples in my sig if you feel inclined to look.

Wolf Scout Ewan
24-03-2009, 13:21
Wow, that does look good!

rev
26-03-2009, 15:21
you are my hero.

azraelezekiel
27-03-2009, 21:07
SWEEEEEEEET!
This is an awesome piece of work.
I look forward to seeing the finished article in time for the new release :angel:

Genoside07
18-05-2009, 00:57
With Space hulk rumored to be out in September (UK Games Day) building on my board has came to a hault. So I started building on other stuff for our local Cons. A buddy of mine is a good painter and if I can build it; he will paint it for me..
Here is a few pics of stuff I been working on... I will try to keep it up to date better.. no promises of going back to space hulk..

Con City Fight table
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/Comic%20Con%2009/IMG_1420.jpg
Con Ice Table
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/Comic%20Con%2009/IMG_1418.jpg
Necromuda Board
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1262.jpg

Velsharoon
18-05-2009, 09:44
Your gonna need a wee bit more terrain on that necro board :)

That city fight board looks like fun tho

chromedog
19-05-2009, 01:15
Nice use of Hexagon bits with the necro bulkheads, too.

SH stuff looks very good, too.

Nkari
23-05-2009, 10:18
Indeed, lotsa more terrain on the necro board.. like 4-5 times more.. =) and up to 4-5 stories high to.. =)

Genoside07
29-05-2009, 02:24
Well this is the great return of My Space Hulk board... With September fast approaching and the release of the New edition of Space Hulk (Rumor) I started building again on mine.

Lessons I have learned so far...

1st) Building things for Conventions really gets in the way of projects like this... In the same time I can build a single space hulk wall, I could build a large terrain piece for the cons that I attend and I am a big sucker for seeing progress...

2nd) For one thing, I was very upset and stopped building on my space hulk stuff because I glued a bunch of sections together that you guys see at the first of the post... but right after I finished that I changed my mind on somethings; Starting with that I had glued the both side walls to floor sections making it less modular and very difficult to move around and get to your models.

3rd) Another was that the regular floor sections where 1.5 inch piece and the wall sections set on 1.0 inch floor pieces. Making it not fit together at all well..so it would be very hard to line up floors with walls

4th) Luckily the Hirst art forum group is a great bunch of guys and learned some tricks about getting everything apart and starting again..One thing I did learn is water soluble white glue just don't mean you can clean it up with water, its also means if you soak it over night the glue will just go away.. *NICE* Bruce at Hirst Arts is a very nice guy and if you have ever thought about buying his molds, I would highly recommend it..

5th) Durham Water Putty is no good.. I have used plaster of Paris, Dental cement and Water putty..(The yellow ones) It is no better than plaster of Paris (which is allot cheaper) and harder to work with than Dental plaster, plus it is very brittle. I have may mixed it wrong.. but I don't like the stuff..(and you see there is no more yellow sections in my pictures...)

So here is a bunch of new pictures of the direction I am going now....and it is very modular now.. The three pictures are all the same pieces, just arranged differently.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1487.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1485.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/genoside07/IMG_1488.jpg

sic
29-05-2009, 02:46
Nice! Thats a very serious investment (in time and cashola) you have there, we've just started playing advanced space crusade again, maybe ill have to drag out the old space hulk too....

Dalanshin
29-05-2009, 13:48
yay! Glad to see you are back on this SH project again. I'm sure that when the new stuff comes out you will still be very glad to have made this stuff.

bugbait_nz
29-05-2009, 21:36
Looking good.
Question, each floor tile is one square inch? so the latest room has 6 x 4 inches of usable area?
What is going to be the size of your biggest room?

Bugbait out

Genoside07
29-05-2009, 23:01
The floor sections are 1.5 inch, Hirst does sell 1.0 inch but I am currently using those as wall pieces. And that was one issue I was having in my orginal build I was using the 1.0 inch to set my walls on and all the other floors where 1.5 inch making it difficult to make it modular.
That is what is very nice with my new direction.. As of right now my largest
floor section is 3 x 3 squares. But I can put it together with hall way sections
and with the walls and doors separate I could build any size room.
Funny thing is My Buddy Aerion is convinced I can build a Space Hulk game
table, By my math a completely covered 4 foot by 4 foot table will take 1028
squares to cover it...Looks like I need to buy another box of Dental Plaster..

the damned artificer
04-06-2009, 18:34
this is the coolest spacehulk board I've seen. I love hirstarts, it's like an endless suply of lego bricks :P

Xarius
04-06-2009, 20:53
needs a hangar bay for firing fexes like Aliens! cool stuff

fiore hellheart
08-06-2009, 21:37
There is one problem with this log, you havent made any tiles yet. Still looks promising though.

Dictator
09-06-2009, 02:17
Your space hulk board is beautiful. Using the rules for tunnel fighting from the FW books would be great for that.

Fredox
09-06-2009, 15:50
Looking good. One quick question how do the casts stand up to handling? do they chip/crack easily?

Genoside07
10-06-2009, 09:41
Looking good. One quick question how do the casts stand up to handling? do they chip/crack easily?

Depends on the material you use; Plaster of Paris will break if you drop it, but I am using dental plaster and that stuff can take a beating. If you are interested in starting Hirst Molds, Bruce has write ups on most Media out there and their pros and cons.

http://www.hirstarts.com/casting/casting.html

See page 5&6

Kriegfreak
14-06-2009, 09:57
Dental Plaster ain't cheap either, but your right it can pretty much be beaten with metal bats and be ok

nik
21-06-2009, 08:58
Looks great!
how much is it? (per pound)/ how much do you need to make enough to play on?

If you're lucky they'll release the rumored new Space hulk sometime soon!