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the creator
29-03-2009, 13:02
Hi all!

I have always wanted to make a blog on warseer. Long time lurker, only post once in a while. Look at the post count versus the join date, lol.

I am going make a city fight board that I have wanted for a while now. My friends come around and we have no place to wage glorious war! (Apart from the dining room table)

I have gone with a great company called CNC Workshop Miniature Scenery i know, imaginative name, huh? But they do some awesome CNC work sets. i have gone with 2 of these sets;

http://www.miniaturescenery.com/DataPage.asp?Code=BGNDURB

the idea is to combine 2 sets of a 6x4 board divided into 4 modular boards. This measures out so each board has 10 "tiles" each in 2x5 configurations. Here are the boards I’m going to glue the tiles too;

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0337.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0338.jpg

this way when i glue the tiles to the boards i still have some choice so i can move them about. this just means im really going to have to think about tile placement or roads wont match up. this doesnt bother me so much as im going to come up with some interesting ideas to explain away dead end roads, etc.

here are some tile pics. this is one set on arrival;


http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0328.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0329.jpg

and here is one set which i have already built up.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0326.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0325.jpg

note that is only 10 tiles, not including the blanks.

in the next post will be some layout examples...

the creator
29-03-2009, 13:11
hi again,

here some pictures of built tiles. this is an example from one set placed at random on the dining room table...the girlfriend is going to kill me....

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0323.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0322.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0324.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0320.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0321.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0330.jpg

this is all untreated so far. im going to cover the wood with a thin layer of filler for a rockcrete texture. im also covering the grating in the pavement with metal mesh to turn them into steam grates. i will be making drains for the road it self and replacing the manhole covers or filling around the gap where the drill head has made such a large dip.

im also going to cast some lamp posts and place them in (as yet undone) drilled holes.

the idea with this board is modular and can be packed away. all building and additions will be seperated from the boards. i have managed to fill up a sketchbook full of ideas so far ( i knew that 3D and 2D design degree would help one day!)

the creator
29-03-2009, 13:42
here are the instructions from the minature scenics tiles. 2 pages. so about the rips on the pages in the scans. i had no other paper to mop up excess wood glue, lol.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-2.jpg

the fun thing about the tiles is that i now have an exact size for my buildings. i will make a mix of 1, 2, 3 and 4 tile sized buildings. from sewage pump houses, small shirens, underground fan exhusts to large manfactorums, chapels and landing pads! and everything inbetween!

here are some of, what my girlfriend calls, my SMS, or SWIFT MAD SHEETS. these are swift, sharp sketches before i turn them into "preproduction" drawings. in this case, this is all i need. i need to get the ideas down as fast as possible. and these are some of my mad man sketches. now imagine this but in a sketch book...liber chaotica springs to mind.

this is just calculating the best place for lamp posts in a modular enviroment. this took about 2 minutes.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-9875.jpg

some ones i did at work. ideas on there for very small odd shaped bits like dead planters etc

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1rehgh.jpg

enjoy,

btw i have a theme for my board. im going with an abandoned city. abandoned due to some horrible viral or chemical effect. think pripryat in russia. im going to mix a very suble green or ink into the paint mix, like a filter. so at first you would not think it was there. im also going with a patchy snow work. like, yesterdays snow melt effect. water in drains with old leaf litter and propaganda posters etc.

ok, next time i will show pictures of the other set built up (takes about 2 days for one set to cut, clean, trim and glue) and maybe of arrange ment of tiles on each board. please post any ideas you have and suggestions, they will always welcome in my threads. till next time! x

N810
29-03-2009, 14:16
Very cool Project :cool:
I can't wait to see the next step.

Wing Commander
29-03-2009, 14:32
I've done the same, the board came out looking great but a word of warning, I had prepped 3 4x2's for putting the tiles onto when I realised that they don't actually fit...
They are awkward sizes - slightly over 6ft in total length and less than 4ft in width. Not too tricky but they overlap too far for safety so you really need a slightly longer board cut for them. It is worth the messing around though coz the road sections are superb.

the creator
29-03-2009, 15:04
I've done the same, the board came out looking great but a word of warning, I had prepped 3 4x2's for putting the tiles onto when I realised that they don't actually fit...
They are awkward sizes - slightly over 6ft in total length and less than 4ft in width. Not too tricky but they overlap too far for safety so you really need a slightly longer board cut for them. It is worth the messing around though coz the road sections are superb.

yeah i had measured them before hand and they really are strange sizes! each tile is 230mm. so i had the boards cut for this size. when i say 6x4 it is only a rough for the sake of blog space, but thank you anyway. oh, any chance of seeing your boards?

Codsticker
29-03-2009, 15:45
Those tiles are a great idea.

I'd like a CnC machine....:(

the creator
29-03-2009, 16:44
I'd like a CnC machine....:(

me too mate....me too.....i would make so much awesome terrain...

NealSmith
29-03-2009, 18:56
I have to say that's kinda neat... I might have to look into that...

Daniel36
29-03-2009, 20:33
It looks nice... But waaaay too expensive... I guess it's easier than the method we use, but still...

Anyhoo, what're the plans for buildings?

the creator
29-03-2009, 22:26
im going cities of death building packs but combined with foam, wood and other materials for some interesting shapes apart from the standard "ruined corner". i have dozens of ideas, i will post some of the rest of the SMS pages. i really want to go to town on them though, full detailing. realistic (as far as you can go with small models moving over everything all the time) detailing and i have a colour palate worked out.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1uytdc.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/tdyfj.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1fds.jpg

im having a grey to cream highlights. i want that industrial, imperial grey but slightly warmer. so instead of white mixed in for drybrushing highlights im using deneb stone, kommando khaki and bleached bone. this will also help me out with the "green filter effect" i want when i mix in a light green wash. the patchy snow will bring down the temprature of the colour so the cream will warm it up and against the snow, look nice and worn/dirty

the secondary colours will be brass and red. thinking dark burgandy roofs and fiddings with warm brass in the details. i want the mechanicum red to be lighter red so that any mechanicum building will stand out for the other reds. i was thinking of making a uperclass building, a true inner city govenor pad. in that case im going with a whiter colour walls and a deep purple.

for true insanity im thinkin of making a overhead "tram" system. think like the over head trains they have in the usa. add another depth and layer to play on. will make it in sections that fit on the roads.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1trs.jpg

and more instanity.... you wll see these on the news one day, scrawled on the wall of my cell when they discover i have escaped from the asylum....

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1hy.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Untitled-1hyt.jpg

Codsticker
29-03-2009, 23:29
me too mate....me too.....i would make so much awesome terrain...

Hmmmm... not as expensive as I thought. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Complete-4Axis-CNC-Router-with-24-x-48-cutting-area_W0QQitemZ260382333745QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWoodw orking?hash=item260382333745&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1307|301:1|2 93:1|294:50)

Edit: Or you can go supercheap. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sable-2015-CNC-ROUTER-ENGRAVER-mill-PCBs-engraving_W0QQitemZ200325750900QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Woodworking?hash=item200325750900&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|2 93:1|294:50)

the creator
30-03-2009, 09:38
Hmmmm... not as expensive as I thought. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Complete-4Axis-CNC-Router-with-24-x-48-cutting-area_W0QQitemZ260382333745QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWoodw orking?hash=item260382333745&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1307|301:1|2 93:1|294:50)

Edit: Or you can go supercheap. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sable-2015-CNC-ROUTER-ENGRAVER-mill-PCBs-engraving_W0QQitemZ200325750900QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Woodworking?hash=item200325750900&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|2 93:1|294:50)

You are a bad man! stop tempting me! or when the girlfriend asks where i got it from and how i could afford it....i'll blame you!

Fredox
30-03-2009, 10:44
Where did you buy the packs from? I've seen them at www.terrascenic-online.co.uk but was just wondering if there was anywhere else.

the creator
30-03-2009, 10:57
Where did you buy the packs from? I've seen them at www.terrascenic-online.co.uk but was just wondering if there was anywhere else.

sorry my friend. that is where i got them from. the fella that runs the english distrubution is really nice and answers all his emails in a timely fashion. i had to wait about a week and a half as he himself was waiting for new stock from OZ. he is the only guy that sells it in the UK.

oh yeah...btw. i have come up for a name for my city. im going for a industrial russianish name with hints of gothic imperial. so i here by call this project and city.....Zouche. (pronounced Zooch)

may update the thread title with it aswell...if i remember how....

Fredox
30-03-2009, 11:37
Cheers for the quick reply. Looks like I'll have to save the pennies for a bit.

Something to think about (that I hadn't realized) pops up in post 10 in Dav0r's modular Cities of Death table (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83037) . As all the buildings tend to be aligned with the tile edges you get long corridors for LOS from the beginning of the game. The half square section (later in the thread) seems to work well to break up the regular dimensions of the squares but might get rather complicated as you glue them to the base boards.

Looking forward to the updates.

the creator
30-03-2009, 12:09
Cheers for the quick reply. Looks like I'll have to save the pennies for a bit.

Something to think about (that I hadn't realized) pops up in post 10 in Dav0r's modular Cities of Death table (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83037) . As all the buildings tend to be aligned with the tile edges you get long corridors for LOS from the beginning of the game. The half square section (later in the thread) seems to work well to break up the regular dimensions of the squares but might get rather complicated as you glue them to the base boards.

Looking forward to the updates.

yeah, i had thought of that, thank you though. i want to break up the board abit so no large LOS issues. i plan to maybe have some long road sections but only one that is "really" long. its unfair i find having a massive open board. i have 5 armies ranging from heavy cc to long range firefight.

this board will be fair for all my friends to play on. and if they dont like one configuration, they can change it! boards shape and building placement! im experimenting now with tile placement and i think i have it.

(if you couldnt tell, i have the day off! also have wednesday and thursday off, hopefully)

N810
30-03-2009, 13:42
youi could cut some pieces triangualar so you could set the while board diaginaly,
instead of square...

the creator
30-03-2009, 14:06
OK, another update. working hard today!

here are soe pictures of the arrangement of tiles on there respective boards. now when the boards are rearranged, some of the roads will reach "dead ends" but i will make road block signs, cul-de-sac signs or large rubble barriers.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0342.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0340.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0341.jpg

im now glueing the "feet" on the last of my blank board. after they are dry, i will stick them to the boards and the fun can begin.

also, the girlfriend has left for the evening. she is staying with her mum so she can work nights (cant get back here so she stays with her mother.). so, yay! i would say sexy party...but...im know im going to be here. glueing stuff...sexy party is tomorrow....lol

oh btw, forgot. here are some pics of boards seperated from the others.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0347.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0346.jpg

nice spaces there for buildings. and no real large fire lanes for any hammerheads/land raiders/baneblades to abuse. and if they do, they can be out flanked

forkit2you
30-03-2009, 14:34
The only problem I see is the premeasuring that will happen because they are all the same size.

the creator
30-03-2009, 14:58
The only problem I see is the premeasuring that will happen because they are all the same size.

good point, but im lucky because my friends arent jerks. i really hate those who cant just play the game in the spirit of the game. if anyone does a bit in their heads, then shame on them! i dont think it ever crossed my mind to be honest. curses...

Fredox
30-03-2009, 15:12
It doesn't take much imagination to mentally picture a grid on a game board for guess range things. GW's new plastic board is squared so can't see a massive problem myself. Dependent on terrain a good chunk fo the lines could be covered anyway.

Lord Solaar
31-03-2009, 03:15
I really like this, I think I may have to do this for city fight board after I finish my RoB board.

zigoR
31-03-2009, 12:41
awesome project!! I think I need some of these URBAN GROUNDS...
can you tell me, if the size "between" a square of roads is at least 30 cm ?
(look at the attached drawing)

Thanks mate :)

the creator
31-03-2009, 12:42
I really like this, I think I may have to do this for city fight board after I finish my RoB board.

nice rob board btw. like the combo of grass colour.

mini update. am now glueing on tiles to there boards. no pictures. sorry, phone camera broken have to wait till the girlfriend gets back on friday. also, been to the shops and got some mesh for metal grating and some plasticrut for drainage on the side of the road. will update you all later.

isaac
31-03-2009, 12:55
I thought the point was to be modular, doesn't gluing defeat that purpose?

the creator
31-03-2009, 13:13
true, but its modular to the point of having 4 seperate boards. 40+ seperate tiles are a bit much to contain. i thought about having a frame which contained those 40 but my friends and i talked about how thay would be more stable but still loose. all it takes is one person to lean on it and smash. another reason is that when i have completed the filler stage, it will hide all the gaps that bridge each tile on that board making it look a bit more uniform and less like tiles stuck on a board.

we started talking earlier about adding other board sections at a later date. trench works, airstrip etc. this also works out better for us instead of small seperate tiles. thanks for the question btw.

isaac
31-03-2009, 13:50
Ah, that explains it, keep up the good work!

the creator
31-03-2009, 14:08
awesome project!! I think I need some of these URBAN GROUNDS...
can you tell me, if the size "between" a square of roads is at least 30 cm ?
(look at the attached drawing)

Thanks mate :)

sorry did see your post at first!

yes, strange as it is, the space you marked out in green is approx 30cm. i gave it a measure with my metal rule and it came out as 318mm

ps, can any one tell me if i can change the title of the thread?

N810
31-03-2009, 14:18
you might have to IM "Captain Brown" or some other admin to change it for you...

the creator
31-03-2009, 14:40
thanks N810. now changed. awesome.

zigoR
31-03-2009, 18:24
318mm ? Great! That means I can use them for my COD buildings (they have 300 x 300mm bases) thanx for the measures :)

Alsharoth
31-03-2009, 18:43
I'm sorry to say this but I now hate your guts for posting this (going to be awsome log) because your going to help consume even more of my saving on this damn expensive hobby. :cries: :evilgrin::evilgrin:

Sorry now thats out of the way I cant wait to see how this turns out because I now want to see what it looks like finished before I save up and get my own.

This is going to be good.

the creator
31-03-2009, 18:53
thank you for the support guys...im..not...gonna...cry......

btw, i have some "needs" that you maybe able to see to....dont worry they arent of that nature...

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190981

wanted ad. i need a few things. i will pay top dollar (ok, pound sterling) for these items....shake down your grandma if you have to!

as for the board. all tiles now glued down and im going to start sanding the side of the board to make sure that they are uniform. damn my lack of digital camera!!! i will get a bucket of them uploaded on friday night but i will still post updates.

the creator
02-04-2009, 12:17
ok, at this point i just want to say something about these boards.

i am at the filler stage at the moment which i will then sand down for a "concrete/rockcrete texture). having said that this wood is excellent and the CNC detail is amazing. the work is very carefully done and with no complaints of any kind.

i recommend using clippers for the board or just "snapping" from the wooden frame. its cut with this in mind. its so easy. sand down the edges and glue the boards together and presto! done! you can start painting them there and then (and now with a dining room covered in filler powder...i almost wish i had).

the most fun thing about these boards though is the fitting together. having thousands of combos is amazing and working out where to put them is so fun. its like the first fun parts of sim city before the whining people start moving in....

even if you have building made its awesome planning around them. and the scale is perfect. one of my friends said it was off a little. but then we showed him the scale of a normal human in 40k (without a base on) and the size that a normal car would be compared to that human. the road is wide enough for a land raider and that is at least twice as wide as a normal car, hell a rhino is!

if you havent seen the website yet,shame on you. they do some awesome stuff on there. including orky building complex and based imperialish buildings (dont want GW pitching a fit) and some awesome paint pot holders;

http://www.miniaturescenery.com/index.asp

they ship world wide for a great price....im starting to sound like an advert...better stop.....

im currently drawing out road marking and having fun deciding what markings the imperial city of vouche would have! i will scan a pic later and show you what i have. any one with any ideas, post em!

im out for the moment....back to sanding.....

Lagduf
02-04-2009, 14:17
ok, at this point i just want to say something about these boards.

i am at the filler stage at the moment which i will then sand down for a "concrete/rockcrete texture). having said that this wood is excellent and the CNC detail is amazing. the work is very carefully done and with no complaints of any kind.

i recommend using clippers for the board or just "snapping" from the wooden frame. its cut with this in mind. its so easy. sand down the edges and glue the boards together and presto! done! you can start painting them there and then (and now with a dining room covered in filler powder...i almost wish i had).

the most fun thing about these boards though is the fitting together. having thousands of combos is amazing and working out where to put them is so fun. its like the first fun parts of sim city before the whining people start moving in....

even if you have building made its awesome planning around them. and the scale is perfect. one of my friends said it was off a little. but then we showed him the scale of a normal human in 40k (without a base on) and the size that a normal car would be compared to that human. the road is wide enough for a land raider and that is at least twice as wide as a normal car, hell a rhino is!

if you havent seen the website yet,shame on you. they do some awesome stuff on there. including orky building complex and based imperialish buildings (dont want GW pitching a fit) and some awesome paint pot holders;

http://www.miniaturescenery.com/index.asp

they ship world wide for a great price....im starting to sound like an advert...better stop.....

im currently drawing out road marking and having fun deciding what markings the imperial city of vouche would have! i will scan a pic later and show you what i have. any one with any ideas, post em!

im out for the moment....back to sanding.....

I was wondering how some of the larger vehicles would fit on the roads. Is it a really tight fit for a land raider? I'd love to see a picture for scale reference. I wouldn't care if it was a tight fit anyway, tanks aren't at their best when doing urban combat anyway (which this would reflect quite well.)

The Warstore carries these Urban Grounds sets for those of us across the pond. I'm seriously considering picking a set up.

forkit2you
02-04-2009, 20:12
I am not hating on this project. I am loving it. I have a rotor tool and after seeing this I think I will try my luck on my own version. I cannot wait to see this board all done up and painted.

Daniel36
03-04-2009, 13:02
That only happens with Power Gamers who have no life, no friends, and soon again no one to play Warhammer against.

Plus, measuring SHOULD be easier in a city setting. You have more points of... whatever it was called again.

PaddyF
03-04-2009, 13:08
You have more points of... whatever it was called again.

Reference (padding)

sainthale1988
03-04-2009, 18:08
looks like youve got a lot of good ideas from your doodles/drawings. i was very skeptical of the boards to start off with, but seeing them all layed out and aranged has sold them too me. subbed with interest

the creator
03-04-2009, 21:03
UPPPPPPPPDAAAAAATEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

(sung with a oprah singers voice)

hi all! got my camera. here are some pictures of the filler stage. road is sanded down and i am happy with the smoothed out "rockcrete" effect. when painted this will dry brush nicely.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0361.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0362.jpg

the blanks and raised surfaces (pavement etc) have ahad a thin layer of filler just to texture them. they are yet to be sanded, but will only need a short rub down with grade 60 paper and then 150.

some close ups that i dont think help to show the detail much. but sod it....

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0364.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0369.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0368.jpg

as you can see i havent "detailled" the craters and pot-holes yet. that will happen after i have sanded down the blanks etc. im going to mix in various grade of rubble with filler etc.

and to everyone who has answered my wanted ads, thank you so much! i now have all the brass drain covers i need. if you havent seen these they are awesome. tiny drains in the shape of imperial eagles. awesome! i am still looking for cities of death lamp posts btw.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0370.jpg

continued next post

the creator
03-04-2009, 21:18
love how the filler hides all those ugly gaps too.

here is the mesh im using to over the drains in the pavement. add a layer of detail and those drains are a hazard to imperial sized feet.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0365.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0367.jpg

people have asked for scale pics. only model to hand was a devilfish from my tau. remember that the devilfish model is as wide as a land raider so dont be surprised about the scale. try to imagine a real life devil fish on a normal two way road at it takes up about the same size and space here. ps sorry about the dust on it. havent played with my tau for a while

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0372.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0373.jpg

remembering that the lamp post is twice as high (maybe a little higher) then a marine with a base on and that he is a good 10-15mm taller then a normal human model. the scale really does work well.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0374.jpg

ok people. thank you for the attention. i will be back soon with more pictures and scans of more crazy sketches ( i have 2 book worth now).

much love!

N810
03-04-2009, 23:57
Updates are allways good,
yea it look like you made some real progress. :D

Lagduf
04-04-2009, 17:25
Thanks for the pics! I'll be following this thread with much interest.

the creator
05-04-2009, 19:21
ok swift update, just with an important change.

after long talks with my city planners (my friends and my girl), we have decided to change the second "gully" on the board pictured below.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0374red.jpg

we are going to fill it with...well, filler. the reason why is because we like the look of the pavement effect between the road and the rest of the tile, but it is very thin. we are hoping after the gully is filled and a building is placed on a adjacent tile, this will form a generic path. also this means more room for the lamp posts and they will look less "in the way".

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0369red2.jpg

hope this all makes sence. any ideas, suggestions?

Wing Commander
05-04-2009, 19:51
I'll take some pix of my boards through the week, most of the craters and holes in the crete I filled with either GW water as puddles or mixed it with inks, etc to make toxic looking gunk. I love the boards, they work well for 40k or a number of games and ours have been used to death.

GotTofu
08-04-2009, 15:55
where did u find that wire mesh? I've been looking for fine wire mesh for grates and fences for a while.

totgeboren
08-04-2009, 17:03
ooooh, looking very good so far. Get more done, now! :D

FraustyTheSnowman
08-04-2009, 17:15
Thought I had a bunch of those lamp posts hanging out in one of my bitz boxes...after about an hour of scouring though I came up with a grand total of one...they've got to be somewhere...

I'm very impressed with your work by the way. Looking forward to each new update.

the creator
08-04-2009, 17:28
where did u find that wire mesh? I've been looking for fine wire mesh for grates and fences for a while.

got the mesh from ebay. just typed in brass mesh, the mesh i got is steel though and tough as...well, steel. next time i will stick with brass or copper.

if you do find any more lamp posts i will purchase them from yourself.

as for the board, i have now filled the gullys as shown above. sanded down the boards and i now have no skin on my fingers...

after sanding, the gullys dont look too uniform for my liking. have now added a thin second layer to them and will sand after they are dry.

detail to the craters is now done using filler and various grades of stone rubble. will have pics for you all later.

Tves
08-04-2009, 18:30
Looking good. Too bad shipping fee's are as high as they are, otherwise I might be tempted to order one of these city layout things.

Keeping an eye on this one

Lagduf
09-04-2009, 00:24
Looking good. Too bad shipping fee's are as high as they are, otherwise I might be tempted to order one of these city layout things.

Keeping an eye on this one

Are you in the US?

The Warstore stocks them for a good price and they have low shipping (a flat rate I believe.)

Tves
09-04-2009, 07:31
Are you in the US?

The Warstore stocks them for a good price and they have low shipping (a flat rate I believe.)

If it were only that easy, but no I'm on a near bankrupt isle in the middle of the atlantic :) Shipping + Toll is near astronomical here.

the creator
09-04-2009, 14:01
If it were only that easy, but no I'm on a near bankrupt isle in the middle of the atlantic :) Shipping + Toll is near astronomical here.

damn man! where do you live!?

N810
09-04-2009, 14:24
Sounds llike Iceland ??? ;)

Tves
09-04-2009, 15:03
Guilty as charged, well not guilty at all but yes I live in Iceland. Anyway, enough derailment of the thread.

Are you going to "lock" the buildings in place on each section, or are you going to leave them loose to be interchangible?

edit: In addition, I know its a bit late for it probably, but have you though about indenting the brass drains? http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0370.jpg Basically by putting them directly on the board base, before applying the thin filler layer. Thus causing them to be layered correctly, currently they are sitting on top of the street layer, whilst in RL (well in most places I've been too) the streets have been repaved enough times to have all drains about an inch below the street surface.

the creator
09-04-2009, 19:01
Guilty as charged, well not guilty at all but yes I live in Iceland. Anyway, enough derailment of the thread.

Are you going to "lock" the buildings in place on each section, or are you going to leave them loose to be interchangible?

edit: In addition, I know its a bit late for it probably, but have you though about indenting the brass drains? http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0370.jpg Basically by putting them directly on the board base, before applying the thin filler layer. Thus causing them to be layered correctly, currently they are sitting on top of the street layer, whilst in RL (well in most places I've been too) the streets have been repaved enough times to have all drains about an inch below the street surface.

read my mind! i will be carving out drain shapes to place them in.

also i will be making buildings to size. 1,2,3 and 4 tile sizes. so yes, they will be modular.

the creator
19-04-2009, 22:36
AH HA! UPDATE!

firstly, thank you. ythank you to all those who responed to my ad. i now have all i need have been able to move on forward with the board

so whats been happening?

i have now de-flashed 36 lamp posts...and that took a while....and have now given each a stainless steel metal "peg" attached to each base. these will now slot into the holes which i have planned out and drilled into the board.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0573.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0574.jpg

speaking of the boards, i have now finished sanding down the filler (and lost my finger prints for the week) and undercoated the board. next stop tomorrow morning is the codex grey drybrush...its gonna take a while! then come all the drybrushing highlights. not the best pics (night time).

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0571.jpg

close up with high flash on makes them look a little ugly, trust me they look dynamite in person. here you can see the holes drilled for the lamp posts.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0568.jpg

also i did sink the drains in to the filler and they look great! gonna paint them the same as the lamp posts, a dull bronze/brass. road will be a darker shade on grey so it picks out and look like tire wear.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0578.jpg

so far going well even when "her in-doors" and work demands my attention. all my friends have become inspired and we are now planning a campaign to begin early august, so something to aim for.

thanks for waiting for those updates guys. i will try to not let myself slip to the second page again!

mini updated next.

the creator
19-04-2009, 22:44
mini post....

here is the work area. my dining room table. oh the mess! the girlfriend asks why we even got it when i always have my GW stuff on it...

secretly...thats what i bought it for....hehe

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0575.jpg

some of the hundreds of pages from sketchbooks. counting 2 full sketchbooks for this project now. my death guard hold the record with 113...

trees hate me....

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0576.jpg

oh yeah here is the new metal mesh for the grating on the boads. much thinner and not made of steel (so i dont need a cutting torch:D).

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Photo0579.jpg

so there it is! im now off to paint my lamp posts. sentence i never thought i would type....

starting with dwarf bronze, then a bronze/silver highlight then pure silver. afterwards a wash of watered down flesh wash and black ink and a very thin coat of green wash!

tons of fun!

peace!

Tves
19-04-2009, 23:33
Looking good, but the pictures from the penultimate post are missing.

Also how are you going to fit the buildings onto the city. Are you going to glue them onto each section, or have them "free-standing" in order to get more variability out of the board?

Although I do realise by posting I make the penultimate post the third last one... is there a word for that.

the creator
20-04-2009, 09:57
thanks for the heads up there! i have now finished getting the pictures back up.

forgot to move the pics and relink them :o

heres a bonus for you guys. i contacted the guys at cnc workshop and got back an awesome email from a fella named ivan. he was kind enough to send me some pics of finished boards using the urban roads sets and now im uber inspired.

before i was going to paint markings on the road sides, but after seeing these;

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Nano.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Layout2.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Crates.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/chaplinbage/warseer%20terrain%20blog/Container03.jpg

im so going to paints the road edge like in this picture above. mine will be deep red though (no half measure yellow for the imperial parking departmento):evilgrin:

and one other thing he mentioned that was VERY interesting. at this stage it is just a idea and may not be happening but what an idea! an in-website cnc designer application so you can design what you want, get them to cut it etc and have it sent to you!

awesome!!!

sainthale1988
20-04-2009, 10:34
'imperial parking departmento' ha priceless! got a damn ticket last time i went down to my local GW so they must have being operating in my area!

i like the way this chap Ivan has painted some of the pavement tiles red, breaks up the monotony well, in a very simple fashon. looking forward to you dark 40kesq take on it