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Gobboman10
05-04-2009, 23:37
Black Orc Warboss- 320
-Ulags Akrit Axe
-Warboss Umms Best Boss At
-Warboss Imbads Iron Gnashas
-The Collar of Zorga
-hevay Armour
-Enchanted shield
-Boar

Orc Big Boss- 161
-Boar
-BSB
-Spirit Totem


Goblin Shaman 117 Pts.
- Lvl. 1
- Staff of Sneaky Stealin'
- Wolf
Core Choices

20 Night Goblins 130 Pts.
-Spears
-2 Fanatics

20 Night Goblins 130 Pts.
-2 Fanatics
-Spears

25 Orc Boys 165 pts.
-Sheilds
- musician
- bearer

25 Orc Boys 165 pts.
-Sheilds
- musician
- bearer

5 spider riders 70 pts.

5 spider Riders 70 pts.

Special Choices

18 Black Orcs 252 Pts.

6 squig hoppers- 90

2 Rock lobber-150 pts.
-bully

2 Spear Chukkas - 70

Rare Choices

3 Trolls – 120

Total Points- 2010 or should i use...

Grimgor Ironhide - 375

Orc Big Boss- 131
- BSB
- Enchanted Sheild
- Warboss Ummms Best Boss At

Goblin Shaman 105 Pts.
- Lvl. 1
- Staff of Sneaky Stealin'

Goblin Big boss - 93 pts
- Light Armor
- Shield
- Spear
- Giant Wolf
- Wollopa’s One Hit Wounda
- Brimtsone Baubles
- Collar of Zorga

Core Choices

30 Night Goblins 165 Pts.
- 3 Fanatics

24 Orc Boys 220 pts.
- Sheilds
- musician
- Big Uns

5 spider riders 76 pts.
- Bows
- Musician

5 Spider Riders 76 pts.
- Bows
- Musician

Special Choices

9 Black Orcs 169 Pts.
- Sheilds
- Bearer
- Mus.
- War Banner

10 Black Orcs – 130
- Great Wepons
- Musician

2 Spear Chukkas – 80
- Bullies

2 Spear Chukkas – 80

Rare Choices

Giant – 205

Doom Diver Catty - 80

Total Points- 2003

rtunian
06-04-2009, 00:33
you still can't have a unit of 19 night goblins. the minimum is 20.

stonetroll
06-04-2009, 00:56
Okay, since you asked for it, lets take this puppy apart: comments in quot


Lords and Heros

Black Orc Warboss- 263
-Ulags Akrit Axe
-Warboss Umms Best Boss At
-Warboss Imbads Iron Gnashas
-The Collar of Zorga
-hevay Armour
-sheild
Good offensive setup imo, just give him a boar for that extra save and ability to charge out of units, also consider the enchanted shield for him.

Black Orc Big Boss - Grimnash Boarbeata 119 Pts.
-Enchanted Shield
-Heavy Armor
- Martogs Best Basha
What's the point behind this guy? I think you wanna make him a BSB with spirit totem (which also leaves ench shield for your lord). Gives heaps of DD and BSB is needed for O&G. Alos mount on boar for save.

Night Goblin Shaman - Sloff Shroom-eata' 112 Pts.
- Lvl. 1
- Staff of Sneaky Stealin'
- wolf
Good choice, personally don't mount him, but I can see the use for it.

Core Choices

20 Night Goblins 150 Pts.
-Full Command
-2 Fanatics
Drop the champion, the banner and one fanatic.

19 Night Goblins 147 Pts.
-Full Command
-2 Fanatics
-grimish boarbeata
Same as above, and don't put your characters in throwaway units.

19 Night Goblins 147 Pts.
-Full Command
-2 Fanatics
- shaman
Same as above, and don't put your characters in throwaway units.

10 spider riders 142 pts.
-Full command
Drop to 5 man, ditch banner and champion.

10 spider Riders 142 pts.
-Full command
Special Choices
Drop to 5 man, ditch banner and champion.

19 Black Orcs 335 Pts.
-Full Command
-Mork's Spirit Totem
Mork's spirit totem should be on your BSB, drop these guys to 18 total (including characters) and field 6*3. Also drop champion.

10 squig hoppers- 150
Use one unit of these guys, two is too random.

10 squig hoppers-150 pts.

Rock lobber-75 pts.
-bully
Personally prefer chuckasm but up to you. Either take tow or none though.

Rare Choices

Doom Diver Catapult- 80pts.
Same as Rock Lobber

Total Points- 2003

My Friends and I agreed we can go 10 points over the limit so dont reply about that

Balthazaar
06-04-2009, 11:10
Not a bad start.

There's nothing superbly hitty or solid in this list, except the Black Orcs. 20 goblins is not really a sturdy unit and having 3 of them is perhaps a causing a big weakness on Ld rolls and combat, I use them to deliver fanatics and then they become expendable and support units.

Perhaps think about dropping a unit of hoppers and adding some orc boyz. in 2k I would personally run one unit of 40 NG's with 3 fanatics or 39 if you want your shamn in here, and have 2 units of orc boyz; try and kit them out with at least shields if points allow. you can get 75pts from dropping 3 fanatics to spend elsewhere. At least having 40 gobbos makes them more solid and battle hardy.

Having loads of gobbos and just one unit of B.Orcs will mean that your B.Orcs are going to get spammed by spells, missiles and anything else your enemy can throw at it. Your going to be reliant on this unit to do all the business for you and if you lose it it could well be all over. They definitely require shields for that all too important 3+ save if you have no other orcs.

155pts can buy you a standard block of 25 Orc Boyz with Full command, but 20 is also a good figure for the orc blocks if you dont have the points to spare.

they would be more effective than goblins. So I would drop one unit of night goblins and definitely add some regular boyz. dropping one squig hopper unit will also save points for a second. you will need to drop command units on your spiders to make up the extra points but this move makes sense anyway.

the Doom Diver would be my weapon of choice, but I would drop the rock lobba and run 2 doom divers. they are more effective as you can to some extent guide the missile. or you could drop them both and run a giant or some trolls.

The bosses look fine except as mentioned before use the Spirit totem and have him as the battle standard. Lose the wolf on the goblin shaman, this isnt really entirely necesary. up to you whether to run the B.Orc bosses on mounts.

Hope this helps a little

Gobboman10
06-04-2009, 21:18
Thanks a bunch for helping me out and i edited the list(the one shown)

Stuffburger
07-04-2009, 07:31
Lords and Heros

Black Orc Warboss- 322
-Ulags Akrit Axe
-Warboss Umms Best Boss At
-Warboss Imbads Iron Gnashas
-The Collar of Zorga
-hevay Armour
-sheild
-Enchanted shield
-Boar


Orc Big Boss- 115
-Boar
-BSB
-Spirit Totem

Goblin Shaman 117 Pts.
- Lvl. 1
- Staff of Sneaky Stealin'
- Wolf
Core Choices

20 Night Goblins 130 Pts.
-Spears
-2 Fanatics

If this is meant to be a combat unit, give it 30-35 NGs, Nets and FC. For a throwaway unit, 20 or 21 guys, mus. Spears are only for 1) when you expect to be charged by garbage troops or 2) prefer the models.

20 Night Goblins 130 Pts.
-2 Fanatics
-Spears

20 Orc Boys 120 pts.
-Sheilds

20 Orc Boys 120 pts.
-Sheilds

20 Boyz will lose rank and outnumber quickly. 25 with standard and mus is more effective. Boss is optional, but adds a decent amount of hitting power, admittedly for a too high price.

10 spider riders 140 pts.

10 spider Riders 140 pts.

Spiders are almost universally fielded in groups of 5 or 6 w/ mus. trying to get a rank bonus with spiders costs 65 points for +1, and the odds of keeping it through shooting and a round of combat are slim to none. You should only be shooting with spiders in very, very limited circumstances so shortbows should only be taken if you have points left over.

Special Choices

18 Black Orcs 252 Pts.

10 squig hoppers- 150

Shrink this unit down some- this unit dies if it doesn't break the enemy on the charge so the numbers don't help all that much try 6-8.

2 Rock lobber-150 pts.
-bully

Rare Choices

2 Trolls 80

Total Points- 2002

Everything I didn't comment on looks good.

Balthazaar
07-04-2009, 09:11
I agree with the above comments, losing 10 spiders and running 2 blocks of 5 will allow you to add 10 more orcs, allowing 2 blocks of 25.

I always run orcs in 25 blocks. that way when they do get in combat you still have a respectable rank bonus most of the time.

losing a few of those squig hoppers may even allow a 3rd troll and an upgrade to either river or stone trolls. 3 is a good number for trolls, but always keep them near your general for his leadership when taking stupidity tests or they will likely do nothing all the game. if you can get them in combat they are fearsome! use them for flank attacks.

Gobboman10
07-04-2009, 19:56
Thanks a bunch guys

Gobboman10
20-04-2009, 00:02
Bump it up

Pengie
20-04-2009, 00:57
seems like a good solid list but you have 5 speacial choices, rock lobbas are not 2 for 1. Nice solid characters - I run my BSB as a Black Orc for the heavy armour and extra weapons

kormas
20-04-2009, 10:03
it is looking good, although personaly i believe that rock lobbas are not as good as bolt throwers, but i have to admit that the rock lobba model is superb

Velsharoon
20-04-2009, 12:41
You have 5 specials and your only allowed 4? Rock lobbers are not 2 for 1.

Gobboman10
20-04-2009, 21:51
Bump it up

Gobboman10
04-05-2009, 23:04
Bump it up