View Full Version : 2 HElf lists! Which one is better???

06-04-2009, 05:11
Made 2 lists for my Helfs and I need to see which one is best. So warseers, help me out.

List 1:
Prince:Star dragon, halberd, Vambraces, armor of caledor, amulet of fire

Noble:BSB, Battle banner, great weapon, dragon armor, barded elven steed

Mage: lv 2, 2 scrolls

18, full command

18, full command

Dragon Princes:5, full command, banner of arcane protection

lion chariot


2 bolt throwers

Eagle "chicken hawk"

Total: 2250

List 2:

Archmage:level 4, annulian crystal, loremaster's cloak, dispel scroll

Mage:level 2, dispel scroll, jewel of the dusk

Mage:level 2, ring of fury


19, full command

Spearmen:19, full command

Phoenix Guard:14, full command

White Lions:20, full command, banner of sorcery, gem of courage

Bolt throwers: 3


Total:2252 (i need to trim some points)

1st list is CC-oriented as you can tell and one i haven't played with in awhile.

2nd list is magic heavy without teclis because I don't want to be a jerk.

C&C welcome!

06-04-2009, 08:02
1st list just because I'm highly against the concept of putting too much faith (much less points) into magic.

06-04-2009, 23:24
I assumed list 1 was better. I usually go magic heavy when I want more foot soldiers.

07-04-2009, 04:52
i like the first one. it looks fun to play :)

07-04-2009, 06:12
list 2 im a magic whore

07-04-2009, 21:22
List 1:

Dragon : 20 pts is a lot for MR1, which is only marginally useful anyway :/
Hes already immune to to fire from his magic armour. Amulet of Light would be a better buy imho.

Why all the spearmen in a combat army? You need more dragon princes (9?) and I would split the Swordmasters into two units.

List 2 :

Where do the all the characters go?
IMHO, the 2 mages should go in the spearmen blocks, a spot should be made for the archmage in the phoenix guard, Caradryan needs to go in the white lions. I would also move the banner of sorcery from the white lions to the PG.

Im not confident the loremasters cloak is really worth while? I am also a little surprised none of your wizards have the seer staff.. it is invaluable.

All said and done, both lists have their merits Im not sure which one I would vote for :/ But If left unchanged the 2nd list is better.

~ Zilla

Dragon Prince of Caledor
07-04-2009, 23:52
I like both lists. Both would be fun to play with/ against.

08-04-2009, 00:36
I voted list 2, mostly because i can't see how list 1's units support each other.
I wouldn't take that much infanty and certainly would take faster units and more eagles in a list with a dragon and a mounted BSB.