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eyeolas
06-05-2009, 20:30
I've always liked the demon rules and recon they could be a really cool army to use, but the combination of the models and the lack of fluff behind them (you practically have to mix marks, and then I see the list as only a gaming army, as all the original fluff goes out the window). So for this reason I thought that fallen angels would be a really cool idea.

The army would be primerily slaanesh and khorne in gaming terms, as they're the easiest ones to justify choices for using angels (merely changing the weaponry from a large longsword to two small shortswords and less armour would be justifyable enough for the basic troops), and then some extras would be added, such as flamers (which can be angel psychers waving flames all over) and greater demons/princes (using larger angels in massive suits of anime style armour with rediculously oversized weapons etc (sould grinder sword oversized!)). There's also the possibility of angels with guns for horrers and other, more unorthadox, ways of tying in different units

So as a basis, the army should work prety well on the field, but I need some help getting it on the field. For a basic angel trooper I'm thinking on basing it on a demonette, just because the armour and cloth is really cool, and they're already half way there on being female (a little green stuff will amend that :D), but thats about as far as I've gotten. I'd need to give them feet, which is a minor issue, as if all else fails GS will amend that, then they need hands and female heads (which I'm still currently stumped on), and possibly some small wings each (which would preferably be feathered, as is the way). Some good weapons would also be needed, which I have a few ideas for, but could use the input as I'm sure there are a bunch of cool ones out there

Unfortunately, I'm prety much limited to the GW brand models and green stuff for recources, as I'd like to be able to use the army as I would any other (in store and tornies for the main part, especially since my main opponents will more likely want to play fantasy), but a few non GW parts here and there won't matter so long as they're very minor and not really distiguishable as non-gw. I'd also like to keep the vast majority of it plastic, as it would help keep costs down (not so much for specialist troops and HQs, but for the basic models I'd prefer to stay away from it as much as possible)

attatched are a few random pictures I found on google of the sort of ideas I'm going for (I didn't make any of them so should not be credited for them). I'm going for the fallen, slightly dark and gothic sort of look to them

thanks for any input

aberrant_unc
06-05-2009, 21:03
Is there any fluff in the 40k universe referring to angels at all?

I think this army would be very cool to see on the table top and I am interested in what sort of fluff justification you might come up with.

Gorgeo5
06-05-2009, 21:21
Well i think it would be really cool although i dont think it would work however maybe as a sisters of battle allies then maybe.....

gamer2456
06-05-2009, 21:24
I remember a thread about this same subject a few months ago. The guy who made it had the idea of an army of Imperial saints and angels appearing. Sounded really cool

N810
06-05-2009, 21:28
You might want to check over at reaper,
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#search/Angel
they have 21 different angel models. ;)
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/14080
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03066
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03314

as well as some seperate wings for moding.
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03181

weirdo2590
06-05-2009, 21:28
Saint celestine as.... bloodthirster? That could work.

eyeolas
06-05-2009, 21:28
Ya, that was one of my general fluff ideas (the others being they are merely other creatures of the warp etc). If anyone has a link to his thread then I'd love to hear his ideas

With the SoB thing, I did have the thought that I could use SoB as horrers, purely because they're the only demons with ranged weapons, but with a 4+inv save and assault 3 gun is hard to justify (especially deep striking in)

Oh, and St Celestine as some form of big demon was most definately on the cards :P

mukelnas
06-05-2009, 21:33
I remember a thread about this same subject a few months ago. The guy who made it had the idea of an army of Imperial saints and angels appearing. Sounded really cool


I remember this too, and if I am remembering it corectly it turned into quite a long discussion. He did come up with a very good piece of supporting fluff.

try the search function.

SimonL
06-05-2009, 23:16
I could see them as "Daemons" or warp entities who represent the positive side of human emotion.

CrownAxe
07-05-2009, 01:53
Ya, that was one of my general fluff ideas (the others being they are merely other creatures of the warp etc). If anyone has a link to his thread then I'd love to hear his ideas

With the SoB thing, I did have the thought that I could use SoB as horrers, purely because they're the only demons with ranged weapons, but with a 4+inv save and assault 3 gun is hard to justify (especially deep striking in)

Oh, and St Celestine as some form of big demon was most definately on the cards :P
Horrors could be archery angels

Mannimarco
07-05-2009, 02:25
this kind of thread has appeared before, a lot of people railed against the idea of good warp entities but i cant imagine why.

about positive emotions, all emotions whether positive or negative feed the gods, look at hope, thats positive, it feeds tzeentch, look at determination (like that to prosper in the face of adversity) it ultimately feeds nurgle, look at pride (nothing wrong with pride) it feeds khorne, look at the desire to become good at eveything we try, it feeds slaanesh

im more inclined to see these "angels" as another kind of bad guy out for our souls "no we cant possibly be bad, look at our glowing armour, our angelic appearence and good guy persona!"

think classic sirens, might be pretty but theyre still bad.

CrownAxe
07-05-2009, 02:35
Well instead of good warp entities, they could be angels, in the heaven since

Felwether
07-05-2009, 03:04
Well instead of good warp entities, they could be angels, in the heaven since

No way. Not in Warhammer.

SimonL
07-05-2009, 03:11
No way. Not in Warhammer.

Not very Grimdarky is it? I mean the Warhammer version of Jesus eats the souls of hundreds of people a day to sustain himself after leading a genocidal crusade against everything in the galaxy :D

Mannimarco
07-05-2009, 03:14
the emperor aint jesus, hes god! not sure if that makes it better or worse

on topic, if your going angels a neat idea is the siren type theory (thats right im promoting my own idea)

Tomxj
07-05-2009, 04:06
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=105_108]westwind productions (http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=105_108) also do a few angels.


Not very Grimdarky is it?

what would you consider the slaughter of a generation of firstborn children then?

I'd say so go with it, but play on the emperors wrath aspect of the concept, from what you're describing these things are demonic manifestations of mankinds faith, so i'd expect these guys to be even more extreme than the most fevorant priest.
Although, in my opinion, the 40k universe already has its angels in the form of its primarchs and the mythos behind them.

tj -x-

Starchild
07-05-2009, 05:28
Is there any fluff in the 40k universe referring to angels at all?

Realm of Chaos: The Lost and the Damned has rules for Sensei (champions of the Starchild), the Emperor's immortal sons.

1st edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay mentioned three Gods of Law (Solkan, Arianka, and Alluminas) plus included rules for a Lawful angelic creature (can't recall the name.)

In Michael Moorcock terms, Gods of Law inhabit an entirely different dimension apart from the Gods of Chaos, who have their own dimension to live in (called Total Chaos, where GW got the idea for the Warp).

CrownAxe
07-05-2009, 06:56
Well in an open minded idea, angels could be grim dark by deeming pretty much every other army as imperfect and sinful and there for must be executed

Angels could fit the daemon rules set very well too.

Demonic Assault = Angelic Decent
Invulnerable! = Divine Protection
4 Chaos Gods = 4 Worshiped Virtues (Love (Slaanesh), Truth (Tzeentch), Justice (Khorne), Cleanliness (Nurgle)
Heralds = Harbringers (if you wanted)
Greater Daemons = Seraphim

etc....

Dr. Hellbeast
07-05-2009, 09:36
I could see the Angron rules being good for a beefed-up, more DoW-like, Living Saint. The Bloodthirster retinue could represent the angelic host accompanying her.

mughi3
07-05-2009, 09:44
Sweet i say go for it. play 40K for the fun of it...and i love themed armies. i am currently building an adeptus mechanicus "deathwing".

zoggin-eck
07-05-2009, 11:11
Again, we've seen this before many times.

As I've said before, there was an article around White Dwarf 250 odd that focused on themed Warhammer Fantasy armies.

Basically a "good" or angelic army could be Daemons of Law, chaos' antithesis, an idea from earlier editions.

Suggested using chaos warrior figures painted in lighter tones, high elf maiden guard (on archive still? not sure) and so on.

I would love to try it, even had some test models made.

I iagine you could use many of the fantasy models like:

plastic high elf archers = horrors, daemonettes

high elf silver helms = slaanesh cavalry

chaos warriors/armoured angels = bloodletters

eagles, pegasus riders or winged, huge greatsword armed warriors = screamers

small winged angels (chaos warriors, high elves, sisters of battle etc. with converted wings) = furies

Chaos knights/armoured angel cavalry = flesh hounds

the upcoming daemon prince could be made to look less evil and given eagle or pegasus wings

eyeolas
07-05-2009, 17:45
Chears for the replies

In relation to the fluff, I recon them being the lesser minions of one of the old, good gods of the 40k universe would probably be the easiest thing to justify, and the aim of erradicating all impure life is simple enough to understand (I'll probably elaborate this at some point when I get time to properly think about it, but for now the rough story works well enough)


As for models, I'd like them to look like a unified and unique army rather than using pre existing models with minor conversions and saying they're angels, so daemonettes have been decided for the basis of the basic troopers.

From there I've seen a few plastic models that have suitable wings (the empire general banner being the main one), but after scouting around some bitz sites they seem awefully expensive, so I still have no good leads on the wearabouts of wings that'd be cheep enough to put on my basic troopers (for the specialists I'll pay a bit more, and in the 4 area there are a bunch of good options I have, it's just the cheep, smaller ones that have as of yet elluded me).

The hands will be made out of fantasy elf hands (my two friends play HE and WE, so they'll have a bunch lying around, and gloves will make the joints easier to blend together should need be.

Feet I am still stumped on, as they aren't the most obviouse of bitz to find, so any ideas on them would be great.

For the heads I'm prety sure I'll use the hasslefree female heads without hair, as they're simple and allow me some freedom with sculpting an easy, yet important bit of the model that'll make each model that little bit more individual


and as for the other thread on an angel army, I tried the search function but gave up after 20 pages :P


any help on the few bits left to figure out would be great, thanks

N810
07-05-2009, 17:59
You might want to check over at reaper,
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#search/Angel
they have 21 different angel models. ;)
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/14080
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03066
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03314

as well as some seperate wings for moding.
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03181

did you look at the seperate wings. (sorry they are metal)
4 different pairs of wings for $10 (us) is not the best deal ever but it's a start.

You might want to check out woodelf feet I immagine some of them are probaly barefooted.

eyeolas
07-05-2009, 18:42
Ah, sorry, I missed the update on your post

Ya, those wings are easily the best bet I've got so far (if my gaming store will let me use them). The ones on the bottom right look just about exactly what I'm looking for, so I may email them and see if anything is possible

In fact, this model: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02961 is the best representation of the look I'm going for I've seen yet. Add a little armour and it's prety much there

cheers for that one

Captain Micha
07-05-2009, 18:50
Counts as Daemons, with converted Sisters and guardsmen would be awesome.

AmBlam
07-05-2009, 19:24
"Angels" carries far too heavy connotations with it for it to really work fluffwise tbh. I would call them something else.

Come up with your own name for them is my suggestion, but base them on what angels look like. Do not involve them with the Imperium or Chaos, make them a faction of their own.

Kaihlik
07-05-2009, 19:40
I would do this one of 2 ways as far as background is concerned. First is "corrupt" humans who have lived near a warp tear isolated from the Imperium for millenia that are basically having a cruel joke being played on them by either Tzeench or Slaanesh. They think of themselves as pure of heart but thier minds have been clouded to the corruption within themselves. They could have been recently rediscovered and are on the verge of being wiped out by the Ordo Hereticus with a small number attempting to resist. They could have had the technology to construct power armour before they were seperated from the Imperium for some reason, perhaps a fairly close by sister convent that had them build thier armour, and that could justify the use of sisters models although I would cut off the insignia.

Other way is as a very human looking Xenos race. You would need a noticable difference to make them non human other than the wings to make this work but this would also work as a background reason although it would require much greater modification to the armour so that it didn't look Imperial.

I would avoid saying that they fight with Imperial forces as its just too unlikely but they could in their own minds still be loyal to the Emperor even if their souls are damned.

Of course if you dont care about background just go and make a sweet looking army and remember to post pics :D.

eyeolas
08-05-2009, 21:20
Well, fluff is important, but can be thought of at any point in time (there's several ideas out there so eventually I'll just stick to one of them, its not like we're hard pressed to think of ideas)

As of now, I think I've got most of the bitz sorted, so please tell me what you think (and I've found some good prices on them):

daemonette bodies and legs from: http://www.foehammersvault.com/servlet/the-Demons-cln-Daemonettes-Bits/Categories
The tails will be cut off and legs shaved down to a normal enough shape, then GS will be used to give them a couple more flowing robes, one around the body in a toga fasion from their left shoulder (which will cover the missing boob), and a couple coming out from under the armour att he waist (which will do their best to make the legs look normal). (These will be used throughout the army)

glade guard arms from: http://www.thewarstore.com/WoodElfGladeGuardBits.html or http://www.bitzbox.co.uk.php5-2.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/index.php?cPath=22_37_76&osCsid=naa7p3leh1l56j7j9af0pltn37
They will be cut accordingly to join fairly well with the daemonette body (GW and filing will be needed ofc). (These will make my 20 horrers, chears crownaxe)

Heads from: http://hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/range.php?range_id=60
The no hair thing will give me more leeway in terms of avoiding the non-GW issue, and will give me some freedom to make them more individual (these will be used throughout the army)

Wings from: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/angel/latest/02961#detail/02961_jb
This is still a maybe for 2 reasons, as I don't know if my local GW's black shirt will let me use them in store, and they're only a 'best so far', so I'm still very open to other ideas, so please post them :P

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As for the rest, I'm going to use St Celestine as a blood thrister (chears wierdo2590), with loads of energy around her in the form of a guardian angel (I have an image in my head, so DW if you don't get it).

I'm going to have heralds of khorne on chariots, which will most likely be TK chariots drawn by pegasus, but I'm not too sure on this so if anyone has ideas please post them

For bloodletters I'm going to get the basic angel and give them scythes, either from the empire wizard or vampire wraiths (I'm yet to find a website with any stock on either of these, so if you know of any that may, post a link)

Flamers I've stated my idea several times

For a daemon prince I'm thinking an angel in really heavy armour (like the first pic I posted in post #1) with really large sword and wings etc. I'm not sure what to base these on so again post any ideas

And last but not least, two soulgrinders (just 'cus their great). My plan is to have a defiler thats been overtaken by an angelic spirit and become celestial (the opposite of what daemons did). for the model, I'd get the normal defiler, make it only 4 legs by taking away the two front large claws and moving the centre ones foreward, then I'd put the two main claws where the guns normally are (making a centaur, and EPICly sized mechanical centaur :D). I'd then give one an EPIC sized bow of death, and the other an EPIC sized spear of death. The bow I have no idea of how to make yet, but the spear would be brass rod with the soul grinder's sword as the spear head. I'd also then decorate them accordingly, removing chaos insignia and making the model much less evil looking and much more celestial (a sensible head would be a good start), and the possibility of a similar idea to the penitent engine, where an angel is strapped to the front attatched to all the wires (St Celestine?)


any help with the above will be much appreaciated, and if you know any other good bits sites then please link aswell

Triszin The Wrath God
08-05-2009, 21:55
wasn't there a piece of fluff a while back about a *angel* made from people worshipping the emperor but it was too pure minded and had nearly destroyed a hive city, then some marines had to kill it?

Eldoriath
08-05-2009, 22:16
Sounds like a cool idea, would be great if you succeded =)

weissengel86
08-05-2009, 22:54
Why does the OP call them fallen angels? Thats what daemons are.

The Idea of an angelic army, though, is awesome and I would love to play it. We had a discussion about this before.

One of the ideas then (my personal favorite) was that The Emperor dies and ascends to Warp God status being free of his mortal body on the throne. He is empowered by ten thousand years of faith and represents zeal and faith or justice I suppose.

The army would use the rules for Chaos Daemons such as the all around invulnerable save instead of regular save. Warping into battle, eternal warrior, and whatnot.

You would have Greater "Angels" and lesser "angels" My idea of basic troops was souls of loyalists. So they would be basically guardsmen but different rules 5+ invulnerable and some type of weapon (lasgun? melee weapons?). One HQ unit I thought up of could be a Greater Angel Who looks like The Tzeentch Lord of Change except with "Holier" armour and with two eagle heads instead of a vulture head and Celestine like wings instead of the ones he has.

Heroes or named units would be Saints (Celestine being the perfect example) or Specific Greater warp entities.

eyeolas
08-05-2009, 23:07
The reason for the fallen angels was because I didn't want them to be a completely good army, but more renegade and wanting to purge life.

I also wanted them to be their own army, rather than tied to the imperium (partially because of the not so good thing, but also because I've always disliked the imperium's fluff)


While writing the list, I also had the idea of angels with really big defencive shileds for plaguebearers, any thoughts?

Hlokk
09-05-2009, 00:34
The reason for the fallen angels was because I didn't want them to be a completely good army, but more renegade and wanting to purge life.

I also wanted them to be their own army, rather than tied to the imperium (partially because of the not so good thing, but also because I've always disliked the imperium's fluff)
If your going to purge life, why not go completely off tangent and have them linked to the tyranids.

No seriously, hear me out before you go :wtf:

Humanity's getting bitchslapped by the nids at the moment, and the hive mind is this massive gestalt conciousness blocking out stuff and co-ordinating the nids. What if the hive mind is amalgamating stuff in the warp as well, like psychic potential, as well as biomass in this universe? Only powerful daemons and psychic entites can survive or fight off the hive mind.

We then have the scenario where rogue warp entites (lets say daemons) posess a bunch of humans and do some messed up stuff. The nids approach and the Daemons get worried. They examine the beliefs of humanity and decide the best way to get the emotions and psychic energy they need is to mimic humanities spiritual guardians and terrorise humanity and harvest the energy that way. Daemons get powerful to survive getting sucked into the hive mind, everyone's happy (apart from the millions of dead humans, but meh)

I know its taking liberties with the fluff and theres no evidence of the hive mind sucking up psychic stuff, but given the OP's dislike of direct manifestations of the emperors will, its the only explanation I can think of.

Coragus
09-05-2009, 01:18
Bringing "angels" into the 40K universe is the same as bringing the Christian doctrine into the 40K univers, unless you can explain them away as being Chaos-related Celestial Beings of Light.

Dakkvir
09-05-2009, 01:48
I agree, you need a reason for them to be there not just bring them in because you think it would be cool.

fwacho
09-05-2009, 03:12
I'm admit it. I've already got a fully painted army themed on angels using 1k sons rules. Reaper has some cool minis (dark angel, and I think Jethia or somethign like that) that I used as replacement for D prince and chaos lords. I call the the invul saves "blessed" and work form there. It fights reasonably well but has it's issues.

i refuse o accept that there are no good higher beings. balance in all things. of course as far as Christianity goes there is no reason to say it can't exist in the 40k universe. They would be seen as just another cult.

Col. Tartleton
09-05-2009, 03:53
They'd look like ominously white armored and golden blinged out marines with hazy dream wings and halos blazing swords of fire and pistol grip heavy bolters...

Think legion of the damned. Ok now think Angels of Holy Absolution in their pure forms instead of just marine ghosts in limbo.

Yeah its not worth boding over.

CEO Kasen
09-05-2009, 04:14
Allow me to join in cheering you on for this concept. I'd love to see something like that, fully converted and painted, hit the table!

CrownAxe
09-05-2009, 05:35
Bringing "angels" into the 40K universe is the same as bringing the Christian doctrine into the 40K univers, unless you can explain them away as being Chaos-related Celestial Beings of Light.
I don't see why it can't be done

Trans-dimensional rift to a parallel universe of "Heaven"

Now you can use angels anyway you like, either in the most strict biblical sense or you can write your own back ground for them

If i ever do get the financing (and skill), i want to do this also

eyeolas
09-05-2009, 12:21
To the, you can't just bring angels into 40k comment, the iniverse is a big place, and there is absolutely no way the marines have mapped all of it and met everything in it (especially near or in the warp rift). Maybe angels have only just evolved enough to be able to reach other planets other than their (undisturbed the the imperium) home worlds, or maybe they have only just come to the realisation that there are less pure lifeforms that must be purged from existance. Or possibly the angels I'd base my army on are the ones that have been banished from the (undisturbed) home worlds for whatever reason and are fighting to clense other planets of other lifeforms so they may claim it as their own (which would explain 'fallen')

And ftr, I'm not chirtsian and didn't intend the term 'angels' to be taken in that sense. It is a fiction based game afterall

Also, I think instead of 'angels', I'd call the army the fallen order, as I'd imagine pure angels thinking themselves as the purest beings in existance that can do no wrong, and hence all their motives for war etc are correct and everyone else is wrong (the usual story), and my detatchment of them would bethe fallen side of the absolute pure angels

EDIT: also, for those who are interested, I posted a list: http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198158

Vote Kantor
09-05-2009, 12:42
That would be an awesome army, go ahead. I like the idea that they think that none else are pure enough.

Gazak Blacktoof
09-05-2009, 12:44
No need for them to be warp entities in the manner of daemons.

You could have angelic beings like the Vorlons from Babylon 5 who use their psychic abilities to alter perception and bend people to their will. Something capricious and manipulative rather than "good" is far more in keeping with the design ethos of 40K.

Imperialis_Dominatus
09-05-2009, 14:11
Bringing "angels" into the 40K universe is the same as bringing the Christian doctrine into the 40K univers

Because many Daemons (http://markofchaos.com/images/art/092606/lg/WHMOC---Bloodletters.jpg) don't look like Judeo-Christian conceptions of demons at all.

weissengel86
09-05-2009, 14:24
Like Imperialis said if you dont want christian influences Im afraid your going to have to quit 40k altogether :)

eyeolas
09-05-2009, 14:29
I understand that there are influences in 40k from christianity, as there are in most things, I'm just saying that for my fluff I'm thinking of angels as more of a xenos race rather than a more christian interpretation of an angel

Mannimarco
09-05-2009, 14:41
and everybody knows that almost all christian daemons are basically just stolen and re modelled angels gods and demons from other religions but thats neither here nor there and is now getting horribly off topic

if your going angels dont call them angels, have them as a non human non imperial alien race with wings (remember even the tau Kor had wings) who are either A: bad guys who look like good noble creatures of light (thats grimdark) or B: the ultimate pure good guys who see everyone and everything as bad and needs to be purged (think ultra puritan sisters of battle)

eyeolas
09-05-2009, 15:09
Ya, the ultra pure is the idea I'm going for the angelic race as a whole, and my army would be the outcasts of them due to their imperfections

The army is then going to be called the fallen order

eyeolas
10-05-2009, 13:14
Ok, I wrote up the fluff, hope you like and hope it isn't too far fetched

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3558620#post3558620

ArtificerArmour
11-05-2009, 20:08
"Angels" carries far too heavy connotations with it for it to really work fluffwise tbh. I would call them something else.

Come up with your own name for them is my suggestion, but base them on what angels look like. Do not involve them with the Imperium or Chaos, make them a faction of their own.

How about Aengaels? :p

rossatdi
12-05-2009, 17:02
thanks for any input

I like the idea. I know its not exactly what your after but I did (half of) an angel themed marine army. They played under the Chaos Marine codex back when Chosen Aspiring Champions could take Daemon wings (I stopped when they changed the codex).

When fielding them it was a pain in the balls trying to get a squad of six into coherency (note the lords HUGE wing span). So that would be my word 'o warning.

Awilla the Hun
12-05-2009, 17:14
Is the bottom guy one of the Angry Marines?

eyeolas
15-05-2009, 12:17
Those guys are prety cool. Am I right in guessing you used the bret pegasus wings?

Well I'm currently at the point where I know where I'm getting all the bitz from except one, a bucked load of scythes (from either the VC zombies or the empire wizard) for my bloodletters, crushers etc. Does anyone know any bitz websites except bitzbox and bitz and kitz that may sell them? (I'm looking for something like 27, so I may need a load of different sites)

Also, I've bought celestine (yes, I'm one of those people that buys and paints their leader first) and am midway in the making of her, so I'll be starting a log soonish which I'll link you to

Thanks for all the help

landingshortly
15-05-2009, 13:15
dude, definitely read up the manga "Angel Sanctuary" ... you might find some inspiration there. I am not too much of a manga appreciado but this manga definitely took me as one of the most creative and groundbreaking stories I've ever seen. One of your pictures on your first post, the second one, is actually Alexiel, the Organic Angel, from Angel Sanctuary.

eyeolas
15-05-2009, 14:37
That is one hell of a confusing pilot chapter! I hope things get simpler (120 chapters is a long time to have no idea what's going on :P)

-IronWarrior-
15-05-2009, 17:15
The emperor and imperial branches are BY FAR not 100% good guys. The sisters themselves would not be deserving of being allies with angels either.

They lead a crusade to purge the universe and populate worlds with humans. He created the space marines as a perfect killing machine to never be rivaled.

The Warhammer 40,000 Universe is a little too evil all around for the presence of angels. They're entirely too pure.

SabrX
17-05-2009, 07:10
An angel themed army would be fast assuming angels fly (if angel didn't fly then what would they be?) meaning they would probably be mostly composed of jump troops.

I think your best bet for an angel themed army is using Blood Angels codex (for all jump pack army) while using Seraphim models + Dark Reaper wings. Dante could be St. Celestine. That way it would play like an angel army, look like an angel army, and move like an angel army.

OR you can do a combination of male + female angels. Ally Sisters of Battle using only St. Celestine and a single squad of Seraphims to an all Jump Pack Blood Angels army. From there, do your own funky conversion for angel space marines (which would be extremely fun). That way it would be legit going by WYSIWYG.

eyeolas
17-05-2009, 15:32
I started a log: http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3583228#post3583228

Its a small start, but a start non-the-less