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Lamont Cranston
18-05-2009, 05:40
Hello,

I was wondering if there was any actual official fluff on either the Praetorians or their home world? I noticed that they are not on the map of named planets in the IG codex, has GW just giving up on these guys?

Thanks,

Crazy Ivan
18-05-2009, 09:18
GW seems to have decided the Praetorians (like the Squats) were a bit too much, seeing them as little more than a joke. They haven't been mentioned in official sources for years, although I vaguely remember seeing them in short background tid-bits on the Medusa V Campaign website.

Anyway, if I remember correctly, and with a little help from Lexicanum (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Praetorian_Guard)and its German variant (http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/wiki/Praetoria), Praetoria is a hive world in the Segmentum Tempestus, close the Segmentum Navy base at Bakka. The governor of Praetoria is known as the "King", and rules, besides Praetoria, over a number of other planets as colonies (IIRC, Praetoria had formed its own empire before voluntarily joining the Imperium). The population of Praetoria consist mostly of lowly hive gangers, and it is because of this that the Praetorian Guard enforces such harsh discipline.

The only named Praetorian I can remember was the not-very-subtly-named Captain Caine (Praetorian XXIV), who fought at the Battle of Glazer's River (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Glazer%27s_River).

Lord Damocles
18-05-2009, 11:29
The only named Praetorian I can remember was the not-very-subtly-named Captain Caine (Praetorian XXIV), who fought at the Battle of Glazer's River (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Glazer%27s_River).
There was also private Simpson who broke ranks to burn the Orks with his flamer. Impetuous boy! :D

Idaan
18-05-2009, 15:36
All that fluff comes from the back of the squad box if I recall correctly. The only other appearance of Praetorians is in 3.0 E Guard Codex with small snippets next too black-and-white pictures. All it says is "ref. Black Tooth River Massacre" and "Aquila Imperialis, Parade fatigues".

Zoring
18-05-2009, 16:05
The battle came from a battle report in White Dwarf, 215ish i think. The river one.

Hence the Captain Caine name i believe :P

Lord Damocles
18-05-2009, 18:03
White Dwarf 218 for the 'Massacre at Big Tooth River' mega display.

White Dwarf 222 for the 'Last Stand at Glazer's Creek' battle report.

Wolfblade670
18-05-2009, 19:10
Its a shame, as I really enjoyed them. (Still have a squad lying around somewhere) These days GW doesn't want to be reminded it ever had a sense of humour...

x-esiv-4c
18-05-2009, 19:18
Not grimdark enough.
Now, if they had skulls etched onto their helmets that would have been ok.

DarkMatter2
18-05-2009, 20:04
To be honest, even I feel that they are too blatantly an historical ripoff.

DrMabutu
18-05-2009, 20:44
lol

I bet Captain Caines first name is Michael. Straight out of the film Zulu.

silence
18-05-2009, 21:49
All they the models where mordians with pith helmets, I have a platoon somewhere :)

Col.Gravis
21-05-2009, 14:41
Anyway, if I remember correctly, and with a little help from Lexicanum (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Praetorian_Guard)and its German variant (http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/wiki/Praetoria), Praetoria is a hive world in the Segmentum Tempestus, close the Segmentum Navy base at Bakka.

Correct, thats official background.


The governor of Praetoria is known as the "King", and rules, besides Praetoria, over a number of other planets as colonies (IIRC, Praetoria had formed its own empire before voluntarily joining the Imperium).

Unofficial, nothing about any of this appears in the background for them GW released which appears in the Limited Editions Box sets literature and the Games Day 97 Programme.


The population of Praetoria consist mostly of lowly hive gangers, and it is because of this that the Praetorian Guard enforces such harsh discipline

The only named Praetorian I can remember was the not-very-subtly-named Captain Caine (Praetorian XXIV), who fought at the Battle of Glazer's River (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Glazer%27s_River).

Accurate again, though you can also add Captain Gliene also of the 24th Praetorian from the Massacre at Big Toof River Mega-display.

chaos0xomega
22-05-2009, 02:00
Real men field Praetorian Guardsmen... I dont understand how they can ignore such an awesome regiment. True it's not very grimdark for the setting, but that could easily have been rectified.

LexxBomb
22-05-2009, 02:53
yer but then agains its almost impossibel to get Attilans, Modian, Catachan, Valhalans and the desert raiders at my local store... I was comming to the conclussion that they were getting discontinued... I can only get ratling, Orgyns and Cadians at my local.

Bloodknight
22-05-2009, 03:14
Most metal guard are direct only and have been so for like 10 years. The Tallarns had a short revival as a boxed set a while ago, but they have gone back to direct only status again, roughly the same happened to Steel Legion and the newest metal Guard, Vostroyans.

DarkMatter2
22-05-2009, 05:34
Yeah, I imagine that the metal guard are going to stay that way as well.

Ghaust Mortium
02-07-2009, 00:49
I kinda like the praetorians. They just cost so much if you buy them online. I wish I could get some.

Serebrate
02-07-2009, 01:19
Praetorians are kind of bland IMO. They were just made to be a Zulu rip off and never properly supported.

They're Mordians with headswaps, or more accurately Mordians with pith helmets and beards.

Grimbad
02-07-2009, 02:05
Praetorians are kind of bland IMO. They were just made to be a Zulu rip off and never properly supported.

They're Mordians with headswaps, or more accurately Mordians with pith helmets and beards.

With kneeling poses thrown in just to make Mordian players jealous.
Personally I think they're cool.

Serebrate
02-07-2009, 02:30
With kneeling poses thrown in just to make Mordian players jealous.
Personally I think they're cool.

You can't kneel in Mordian. It is bad form while standing in a line and it will wrinkle your dress trousers.

Why do Mordians take such care to wear dress clothes when in combat? Because they know it's the same thing they'll be buried in 10 hours later.

Grimbad
02-07-2009, 05:35
Because they know it's the same thing they'll be buried in 10 hours later.

With typical Mordian efficiency, they can achieve this 33% faster than a Steel Legion trooper. Shows them for trying to rip off the Iron Guard's name.

But I really wish I could have some kneeling guys or at least the bugler and banner.