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Lord Dan
13-07-2009, 22:58
So with 13 Empire players already signed up (and it's still July!) I thought it'd be nice for us to have a thread of our own. Though the idea of TOFP is obviously a support group on a broad, monthly level, I hoped we could use this thread to help those of us who need extra support from fellow Empire players.

So really the purpose of this thread is intentionally broad- it's to help Empire painters with whatever they need to paint their allotted points by September of next year.

Need bitz? Models? Painting advice? List construction or painting schedule help? That's why we're here!

I'd ask that people who post pictures and updates in this thread only do so if they've signed up with Harry in the main 2009-2010 TOFP thread somewhere else in fantasy general.



Here's a player list to reference so you know who you're talking to and what they're about

Painter/ Province/ Goal

Arduhn / Averland / 2000
BeatTheBeat / Nordland / 2000
Calibretto / Stirland River Patrol / 1000
Conquest Miniatures / Stirland / 2000
DaCone2 / own color scheme / 2000
Dakkapantz / Averland DoW / 2000
Dark Apostle / Wissenland / 2000
Deakor / Ostland / 2000
Deusmex /Ostermark / 1000
Dr Death / Hochland / 2000
Dry_Erase / Nordland / 2000
Ego Ninja / Reikland / 1000
EmperorNorton / Middenheim & Middenland / 4000
Fabius Bile / Averland / 2000
Gargobot / Hochland / 2000
Grhino / Hochland / 2000
Grimtide / Stirland / 2000
Harry / Reiksguard / 1000
Harvey / Talabheim / 2000
it's coming this way! / Ostland / 2000
Jim / Hochland / 2000
Kaine / Nuln / 1000
Lord Dan / All / 2000
Lt Dougheim / The Moot / 2000
Matrim_Cauthon / Nordland / 2000
MindTheGap / Middenheim / 2000
The hair / mixed / 2000
ThothAmarth / Altdorf / 2000
voiceofthewarp / Averland / 2000

Gargobot
13-07-2009, 23:34
Nice idea, I'll try to help too.
In fact I'm going to sig this.

Lord Dan
13-07-2009, 23:51
Good call, Gargobot, thanks! Did you sign up for 1,000 or 2,000?

Gargobot
14-07-2009, 00:00
Initially I signed up for 1,000, but I posted later that I will do 2,000 instead. I'm waiting for my list entry to be moved to the man section atm.

I'm just wondering, will I have to show my first 200 pts in August or in September?

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 00:20
It's the end of September, or at least it was last year. That will (if I'm correct) give us a solid two months of prep time.

I put you down for "Hochland", I hope you don't mind. :)

Gargobot
14-07-2009, 00:28
How could I? :p
I'll continue my Hochland scheme, but I ordered some Knightly Orders, not sure how I will paint them.
I thought maybe Knights Panther, as this would be the most fluffy order (both monasteries basically border Hochland). But I'm open to suggestions. I can't really envision what would look good with the rest of the army.

I take it you'll continue your "all corners" approach?

dwarfhold13
14-07-2009, 00:50
bummer.. seeing this now i kinda wish i would've gone with empire :( boooo...
maybe this is something we could do to break down the commenting into certain groups?
there are a good number of dwarf guys, but not nearly enough like this one
if for some crazy reason i do get a chance to paint any empire while trying to conquer 3 other armies, would you guys mind if i posted it here for kicks and giggles? my two wizards are just begging for paint jobs!

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 01:11
How could I? :p
I'll continue my Hochland scheme, but I ordered some Knightly Orders, not sure how I will paint them.
I thought maybe Knights Panther, as this would be the most fluffy order (both monasteries basically border Hochland). But I'm open to suggestions. I can't really envision what would look good with the rest of the army.

I take it you'll continue your "all corners" approach?

I think Knights Panther would look great with your hochland army, since the colors are all complimentary. Check it out:
Red Green Blue White Red Green

Just promise me you won't paint any panthers anywhere on the unit...it makes them look like a football team.

Reiksguard would work quite directly, but they're also red/ green so it might be too close to what you're already painting. I plan on eventually doing a unit of knights of the blazing sun (with more black lacquer and toned down gold trim...check out the captain on pg. 40) but that won't be during the tale.

Yeah, I'll be continuing with my All Corners approach. I just finished basing everything I have, and I only need 20 militia, a general, a wizard, and 20 swordsmen to have all 2000 points that I'll need for the tale.


bummer.. seeing this now i kinda wish i would've gone with empire :( boooo...
maybe this is something we could do to break down the commenting into certain groups?
there are a good number of dwarf guys, but not nearly enough like this one
if for some crazy reason i do get a chance to paint any empire while trying to conquer 3 other armies, would you guys mind if i posted it here for kicks and giggles? my two wizards are just begging for paint jobs!

I figured this would happen, and of course you can post here if you're not painting Empire for the tale. We're the Empire Support Group, not an exclusive members-only club. If you decide to go with a 1,000 or 2,000 point goal for the tale, let me know and I'll add you to the list. Otherwise just post as you go, and we'll be here to help you however we can. :)

dwarfhold13
14-07-2009, 01:52
believe me i would.. but i'm trying to refrain from adding to my current goal.. painting 7500 pts of anything is a chore.. something tells me the 600 pts a month with keep me busy enough :).. i like your idea for the smaller group though.. and good luck empire ladies and gents!

grhino
14-07-2009, 07:25
Hi,

I'm Guido, a.k.a. Grhino in this forum, from Maastricht, the Netherlands and I'm in with 2000 points of Empire (although I will probably paint more) from the province of Hochland. I will start off my painting with a steamtank, initiating with a 300 point first month... I'm also still considering what Knightly Orders to put into the army. I was thinking:


The Hunters of Sigmar

A relatively new Order, The Hunters of Sigmar have dedicated themselves to hunting down and destroying pockets of Chaos resistance in the Drakwald forest region. The Order was formed by Jerik Wildorn in the aftermath of the Storm of Chaos, mainly in response to the increased presence of Beastmen and other dark and dangerous things lurking in the deep forests of the Empire's northern reaches. Jerik is an expert woodsman and tracker, and these skills are emulated, honed, and perfected by the Order's Knights each and every day. They frequently provide escort services to coaches and merchant caravans traveling through the region. In addition to such duties, the Hunters of Sigmar go out of their way to track and eradicate evil where it lives within the woods. Their strategy revolves around the idea of striking at Chaos before it has time to gather and form a raiding army. By striking in a preemptive manner, lives are saved and small settlements spared the ravages of Chaos.

The average Hunter of Sigmar often spends long periods of time living outdoors. As such,they have to provide their own sustenance and have little time to repair their equipment. They carry everything they might need into the field -- you just never know how difficult a trail will be. Mud-spattered and odorous, Hunters are certainly not regarded as the most glamorous Knightly Order. In fact, when they gather together to form a skirmish group, they are often mistaken for a ragtag group of Freelance Knights. However, their relentless struggle against the forces of Chaos is more than welcome in these dark times. It is not uncommon for local people's to offer shelter and food to these brave warriors of the Empire in a gesture of appreciation.


And/or: Reiksguard Knights

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 07:43
Welcome! Sounds like a hefty first month, what does the other 100 points you were planning on painting consist of? You have everything ready for the first update? Also if you're ever debating between a personalized knightly order with a wicked cool set of fluff or... the Reiksguard... you should always go with the former.

Also to clarify, the opening month for the ToFP is August this year, so the first update is set for the last day in August.

Let us know if you need anything.

EmperorNorton
14-07-2009, 08:24
Will every province be represented in the ToFP?
That'd be great.
Anybody doing Middenheim?

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 16:36
Not so far. ...you interested?

EmperorNorton
14-07-2009, 17:11
I'm tempted to switch over from my Warriors of Chaos, but I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be able to handle the high model count.

Gargobot
14-07-2009, 17:19
You could always do 1,000 points, so the model count wouldn't be that high.
Or paint 2 Steamtanks. :cheese:

Dr Death
14-07-2009, 17:52
Well what a jolly club this will be :p. I will be venturing to build 2000 points of Hochland troops.

I've chosen Hochland really because my last empire army was very much a Middenheimer force and i wanted a nice 'vanilla' state which didnt restrict the gunpowder or Sigmarite elements i could include or force a theme on me. I've actually got it in the back of my mind that i want to build armies for all 4 of the 'character' elector counts (Raukov, Todbringer, Leitdorf and Hochland's Ludenhof) so this is the first of those forces with my greatly increased painting skills since my Middenheim army.

The look i want to acheive with the models is going to be heavily inspired by 'Eavy metal and Dave Andrews models: not exactly 'clean' (though crisp) but quite rich, high chroma adaptable for a number of effects and looks. I expect this will be one of the harder parts of the tale- keeping to a set, bright colour scheme and avoiding the temptation to go all poetically 'grimdark' halfway through to keep the army unified.

Conversions planned include pretty much all my state troops which will have sculpted slash and puff detailing (much of it not done yet so i'm going to have to increase my production rates); Wizards based on the sketches in 'Blood on the Riek' and hopefully some knightly orders combining the Chaos Knights and Greatswords. If you're really lucky you may even see me wrestle with 'The Brick', my as yet unassembled metal Steam Tank (I'm actually a bit of an purist when it comes to steam tanks- i mean come on, if there's only 12 in the entire warhammer world and 4 dont work, you dont want it to be represented by a flimsy plastic nonsense!)

So yes, that's the plan.....;)

Dr Death

Jim
14-07-2009, 18:06
Hello!

Well this seems like a good idea...I'm hoping to do 2,00 points of Hochland (I've been planning this for ages - I'm not jumping on the 'I'm painting a 2,000 point Hochland Empire Army for ToFP 2009-2010' bandwagon - honest!!! :angel:

I have worked out a (very) rough list at this stage and hope to get a couple of units of state troops out of the way in the first few months and then move onto the more fun stuff (did someone mention Steam Tanks? :cheese:)

Looking forward to how everyone's stuff turns out.

I'm interested in how people are going to approach this...are you planning to get troops out of the way early doors, paint whatever takes your fancy that month or some other arcane system of deciding what to piant - let us know!!!

Jim

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 18:28
I'm tempted to switch over from my Warriors of Chaos, but I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be able to handle the high model count.
I know what you mean, my 2000 point list has 158 models in it. It's going to be an intense year! Whether you join up with Empire or not I hope you'll hang around to help out; I very much value your advice on all things Empire.


Well what a jolly club this will be :p. I will be venturing to build 2000 points of Hochland troops.

I've chosen Hochland really because my last empire army was very much a Middenheimer force and i wanted a nice 'vanilla' state which didnt restrict the gunpowder or Sigmarite elements i could include or force a theme on me. I've actually got it in the back of my mind that i want to build armies for all 4 of the 'character' elector counts (Raukov, Todbringer, Leitdorf and Hochland's Ludenhof) so this is the first of those forces with my greatly increased painting skills since my Middenheim army.

The look i want to acheive with the models is going to be heavily inspired by 'Eavy metal and Dave Andrews models: not exactly 'clean' (though crisp) but quite rich, high chroma adaptable for a number of effects and looks. I expect this will be one of the harder parts of the tale- keeping to a set, bright colour scheme and avoiding the temptation to go all poetically 'grimdark' halfway through to keep the army unified.

Conversions planned include pretty much all my state troops which will have sculpted slash and puff detailing (much of it not done yet so i'm going to have to increase my production rates); Wizards based on the sketches in 'Blood on the Riek' and hopefully some knightly orders combining the Chaos Knights and Greatswords. If you're really lucky you may even see me wrestle with 'The Brick', my as yet unassembled metal Steam Tank (I'm actually a bit of an purist when it comes to steam tanks- i mean come on, if there's only 12 in the entire warhammer world and 4 dont work, you dont want it to be represented by a flimsy plastic nonsense!)

So yes, that's the plan.....;)

Dr Death
A third Hochlander? Wow!

Don't worry about going all grimdark on us, that's why we're here. As any painter knows halfway through any project their mind changes about something drastic. I promise we won't let you go "grimdark" if that's not what you've set out to do.

Welcome to both the tale and the Empire support group.

I'd love to see your Middenheim army, by the way.

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 18:46
Hello!

Well this seems like a good idea...I'm hoping to do 2,00 points of Hochland (I've been planning this for ages - I'm not jumping on the 'I'm painting a 2,000 point Hochland Empire Army for ToFP 2009-2010' bandwagon - honest!!! :angel:

I have worked out a (very) rough list at this stage and hope to get a couple of units of state troops out of the way in the first few months and then move onto the more fun stuff (did someone mention Steam Tanks? :cheese:)

Looking forward to how everyone's stuff turns out.

I'm interested in how people are going to approach this...are you planning to get troops out of the way early doors, paint whatever takes your fancy that month or some other arcane system of deciding what to piant - let us know!!!

Jim

4 Hochland... alright, I think it's time to change the thread title. ;) Welcome aboard.

Personally I'm breaking things up as much as I possibly can...I don't want to have to paint 80 infantry in 2 months.

This is my tentative painting schedule. The total points for the month are next to the month name, for those who don't get it:

August (169): 1 Warrior Priest (124) + 9 Arabian Militia (45)
September (190): 1 Nuln Helblaster (110) + 10 Hochland Handgunners (80)
October: JOKER (My baby is going to be born at the end of September...)
November (273): 20 Talabheim Swordsmen (145) + 1 BSB (128)
December (168): 5 Middenehim Knights (123) + 9 Kislev Militia (45)
January (200): 20 Morheim Flagellants (200)
February (195): 20 Stirland Spearmen (150) + 9 Marienburg Militia (45)
March (177): 5 Pistoliers (97) + 10 Altdorf Handgunners (80)
April (195): 1 Wizard (150) + 9 Hobbit Militia (45)
May (220): 20 Solland Swordsmen (145) + 1 Sylvanian Mortar (75)
June (205): 1 General (205)
July: "JOKER". This is my fallback month in case I miss anything earlier on. If I'm right on track I might just paint up a unit of Carroburg greatswords...

What about you guys?

Grimtide
14-07-2009, 20:04
Hey,

In a break from provinces I'll be collecting Wissenlanders! In specific, those hailing from the lost province of Solland. I'm just finishing off 2000pts of Orks so I'm looking forward to my Empire project. I'll also not be acquiring a Steam Tank... Yep, cue stunned silence :D

EmperorNorton
14-07-2009, 20:22
I know what you mean, my 2000 point list has 158 models in it. It's going to be an intense year! Whether you join up with Empire or not I hope you'll hang around to help out; I very much value your advice on all things Empire.
I'll make a list tomorrow and see how much I can cut the numbers. The WoC army I planned wasn't that small either (around 80 models with two huge ones), so maybe it's doable.
Would anybody object to me using the rules for Karl Franz with a Boris Todbringer model?

Either way, I'll certainly hang around. I follow your army and Arduhn's progress anyway and I'm sure the others here will present something great as well.
If I stick with the Warriors of Chaos I'll be your Richelieu, I guess.

Gargobot
14-07-2009, 20:31
Oh yeah! Hochland ftw! :D

My tentative (thx Lord Dan, another word learned) schedule looks like this:
August (210): Great Cannon (100) + Helblaster Volley Gun (110)
September (200): 15 Handgunners (120) + 10 Archers (80)
October (216): Warrior Priest (119) + 5 Pistoliers (97)
November (210): 20 Flagellants (210)
December (260): 2 Battle Wizards (260)
January (120): 20 Swordsmen (120)
February (145): General (145)
March (224): 8 Knights (224)
April (115): Helstorm Rocket Battery (115)
May (300): Steamtank (300)

With approx. 90 models, I have a rather relaxed ToFP ahead. (At least for an Empire army)
Easygoing months followed by jam-packed ones, so I can start the next month's work a little earlier.


Would anybody object to me using the rules for Karl Franz with a Boris Todbringer model?
I certainly wouldn't.

Almost forgot: Welcome everybody and good luck with the tale, or whatever else you're up to. :)

Lord Dan
14-07-2009, 22:33
Hey,

In a break from provinces I'll be collecting Wissenlanders! In specific, those hailing from the lost province of Solland. I'm just finishing off 2000pts of Orks so I'm looking forward to my Empire project. I'll also not be acquiring a Steam Tank... Yep, cue stunned silence :D

Solland refugees, awesome. Welcome to the tale. I won't be picking up a Steam Tank either.

Although I owe Harry an Arabyan war elephant...


I'll make a list tomorrow and see how much I can cut the numbers. The WoC army I planned wasn't that small either (around 80 models with two huge ones), so maybe it's doable.
Would anybody object to me using the rules for Karl Franz with a Boris Todbringer model?

Either way, I'll certainly hang around. I follow your army and Arduhn's progress anyway and I'm sure the others here will present something great as well.
If I stick with the Warriors of Chaos I'll be your Richelieu, I guess.
Either way, it's good to have you here. I wouldn't have any problems with a Boris-Franz model.


Oh yeah! Hochland ftw! :D

My tentative (thx Lord Dan, another word learned) schedule looks like this:
August (210): Great Cannon (100) + Helblaster Volley Gun (110)
September (200): 15 Handgunners (120) + 10 Archers (80)
October (216): Warrior Priest (119) + 5 Pistoliers (97)
November (210): 20 Flagellants (210)
December (260): 2 Battle Wizards (260)
January (120): 20 Swordsmen (120)
February (145): General (145)
March (224): 8 Knights (224)
April (115): Helstorm Rocket Battery (115)
May (300): Steamtank (300)

With approx. 90 models, I have a rather relaxed ToFP ahead. (At least for an Empire army)
Easygoing months followed by jam-packed ones, so I can start the next month's work a little earlier.


I certainly wouldn't.

Almost forgot: Welcome everybody and good luck with the tale, or whatever else you're up to. :)

Yes, tentative, which as you seem to have figured out, means "open to change" or "alterable". Likewise today I learned:
"Alle fuer einen; einer fuer alle." (I think that's how you make a "fake" umlaut?)

You all set for August? You have everything you need?

EmperorNorton
15-07-2009, 08:17
The decision has been made, I'm with the Empire now, as I found a list that actually has less models than the WoC army I wanted to do and is less problematic overall. My Empire army is all built whereas I would have had to assemble the WoC. They were built at a time when I was still afraid of trying conversions, so my stuff will be a bit plain. And while I planned to convert my own War Mammoth for the WoC, my Middenheimers won't have anything comparable, sadly.

Here's what I plan to do:

August (230): 20 Teutogen incl. command (count as Greatswords)
September (170): 5 Knights Panther of the Inner Circle incl. command
October (310): 5 Knights Panther & 5 Knights of the White Wolf, both incl. command
November (100): 10 Kossars of Kislev (count as Huntsmen)
December (215): Great Cannon & Helstorm Rocket Battery
January (300): Steam Tank
February (114): Battle Wizard, lvl 2, on barded warhorse
March (~200): 2 Priests of Ulric
April (371): Boris Todbringer on barded warhorse (counts as Karl Franz)

I'll start with my big block of infantry to have it out of the way and because they are great minis to paint. I'll try to get the characters done on the side early on so I can use them as extra jokers if needed.
The list as it stands is a bit ridiculous, but I have to worry about being able to get it done first, as I hardly ever get to play anyway. Should I have more time than expected I can add some more units.



You all set for August? You have everything you need?
I have everything I need, but not everything I want.
I'm looking for some metal Knights of the White Wolf, if anybody has them.
And some Kislevite heads from the Archers set, although I'll probably end up buying that myself.

Jim
15-07-2009, 08:28
And some Kislevite heads from the Archers set, although I'll probably end up buying that myself.


I'm not planning on using mine if you want them?

PM me your address and I'll wing 'em over to you.

Jim

Grimtide
15-07-2009, 13:11
I have a question for those of you including Knights in your army. Are you intending using the Empire Knights straight from the box or conversions? The plastic range is very strong for Empire but I've always thought that the Knights were a bit clunky, especially the mounts and heads. I'm thinking of substituting them for Bretonnian mounts and heads from the Knight of the Realm plastics.
Comments, suggestions?

Lord Dan
15-07-2009, 17:01
The decision has been made, I'm with the Empire now, as I found a list that actually has less models than the WoC army I wanted to do and is less problematic overall.
Awesome, EN! I'm glad you've joined the Empire army of heroes.


I have a question for those of you including Knights in your army. Are you intending using the Empire Knights straight from the box or conversions? The plastic range is very strong for Empire but I've always thought that the Knights were a bit clunky, especially the mounts and heads. I'm thinking of substituting them for Bretonnian mounts and heads from the Knight of the Realm plastics.
Comments, suggestions?

I agree. I had two separate conversion ideas for Empire knights. The first was to use Chaos knights as middenheim knights, though that didn't work too well. If you go that route let me know what you did, as I have until December to figure mine out. :angel:
The second was to use the Empire pistolier horses/ bodies and slap on lances and Knightly order helmets. You'd have to green stuff some barding (or not, if your gaming group doesn't care one way or another), but I think they would look very cool in the end.

Arduhn
15-07-2009, 17:25
I'm in with my Averlanders. 2000 points. This is a good idea, and I had hoped last year that this is how it would be, a group for each army.

Looks like a lot of Hochlanders, which is fine. It gives me a way to be different. :) Hey, Grimtide, a lot of my nobles are descended from Sollander refugees as well. :) I am using the knights straight out of the box. I agree that they are below the standard of the other plastics, but I did change some of my knights' heads to pistolier heads. Other than that, I will just try to paint them well, and hope they look good anyway.

Gargobot
15-07-2009, 19:06
I have a question for those of you including Knights in your army. Are you intending using the Empire Knights straight from the box or conversions? The plastic range is very strong for Empire but I've always thought that the Knights were a bit clunky, especially the mounts and heads. I'm thinking of substituting them for Bretonnian mounts and heads from the Knight of the Realm plastics.
Comments, suggestions?
I've seen that conversion once, I think it lacks a certain Empire feeling, but it does look very good. (The guy who did it actually won Best Army on the German GT couple of years back, of course the knights weren't the only reason.)
Using Chaos horses on the other hand, has the disadvantage that you have to file off all those arrows, and then the heads still look very chaosy, and either your Empire Knights look very small on those horses or you use the Chaos riders, which again look very much chaotic.
Given the current options, the Bretonnian way or buying another company's knights are the best solutions.

I'll swallow my pride on this one, and just buy the current knights. If they release new ones in 2111 I'll use them as Inner Circle Knights.

Lord Dan
15-07-2009, 19:10
Nice signature, gargobot.

Braad
15-07-2009, 20:57
Yes, it is fully understandable that the pityfull little men of the empire need each other to get to the end succesfully... ;)

No, great idea ofcourse! My guess is that a few more of these threads will be around soon enough, especially considering the amount of painters already signed up to the tale. Keep it going, guys!

Dry_Erase
15-07-2009, 21:21
Oh balls. I'm going to regret this, but I'll do 2,000 points of a Nordland army. I've been planning it for about 9 years, so I should actually do something.

I've not done this before, but I guess I have to sign up on the main thread, don't I?

Lord Dan
15-07-2009, 21:43
Yes, please sign up on the main thread as well. Welcome to the tale.

BeatTheBeat
15-07-2009, 22:07
Cheers!

I've signed up for a 2000 pts Nordland Empire army, which will be loosely based on the 16th/17th century Swedish army. Not historically correct, but with lots of historical references (and yellow crosses on blue backgrounds) :)

Good luck to you all!

Gargobot
15-07-2009, 22:09
You all set for August? You have everything you need?
Atm I just have 500 points of my list, I'll order the rest as soon as my paypal acc. is set up. This might be a good time to ask if there's a retailer in Europe who offers more price reduction than Wayland, which is ~20%?


Nice signature, gargobot.
Thx. With you in, I wonder if Arduhn is going to follow.

Lord Dan
15-07-2009, 22:25
Cheers!

I've signed up for a 2000 pts Nordland Empire army, which will be loosely based on the 16th/17th century Swedish army. Not historically correct, but with lots of historical references (and yellow crosses on blue backgrounds) :)

Good luck to you all!
Hello and welcome! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.



Thx. With you in, I wonder if Arduhn is going to follow.
I have no doubt he will.

Arduhn
16-07-2009, 02:08
Right on cue: ;) hmm, I'm torn between "I fight just as well with my left hand. If you find that this places you at a disadvantage, I do apologize." (I am ambidextrous myself...and Canadian, so the polite thing kind of works) or "To die among friends. Can a man ask more? Can the world offer less? Who wants to live 'till the last bottle is empty? It's all-for one, d'Artagnan, and one for all."

Gargobot
16-07-2009, 02:23
I'd go with the second one, fits well into the Support Group and is a lot cooler.

To keep to the point, do you know how you'll approach the Tale? Maybe even have a schedule? Would like to know what you're going to paint, especially if we can expect an appearance of a certain Count.

Arduhn
16-07-2009, 02:38
Without a doubt, the mad count will be there in style. Last year when I tried to do the tale, Leitdorf was the first model I painted. This time, I will try to leave him till a bit later (a Christmas present perhaps). I will start off with a regiment of troops, not quite sure which yet. Until the start of August, I am going to be assembling, cleaning, priming, and otherwise preparing to get to the painting. When August comes, I will get as much painted as possible, hopefully more than 200 points, so that when I go back to Uni in September, I will have some leeway beyond the Joker and expensive character options.

BeatTheBeat
16-07-2009, 07:31
This would be my tentative (yeah, I too have learnt a new word! Maybe we should rename this the language support group?) list:

August: Helsturm & Wizard (245 pts)
September: 25 Halberdiers & 6 Free Company (185 pts)
October: 10 Handgunners & Cannon (180 pts)
November: 24 Free Company & Captain (245 pts)
December: BSB & 5 Pistoliers (190 pts)

And after the first 1000 (which is what I have bought) it's quite hazy :) Plans do of course include a Steam tank named Wasa II which probably will fail me (know your swedish history!) and the contents of a battalion box to make the next 800 or so points.

Dr Death
16-07-2009, 09:16
Using Chaos horses on the other hand, has the disadvantage that you have to file off all those arrows, and then the heads still look very chaosy, and either your Empire Knights look very small on those horses or you use the Chaos riders, which again look very much chaotic.

I actually think there's some good grounding in the chaos knights but it will take some serious work naturally and some fair proficiency with the ol' putty. Essentially the jobs come down to cutting and filing down the spines and arrows, filling the overtly chaotic shapes to the barding with putty, trimming the chainmail either off entirely or into a neater form and giving them some neater tails. For the knights themselves i recommend Pistolier legs (cover up the exposed fabric with more plate or chain), greatsword torsos, sallet helmeted heads and some of the more armoured arms and knightly order heads and arms (though personally i'd either sculpt or use suitably trimmed larger pauldrons from the Chaos knights).


This might be a good time to ask if there's a retailer in Europe who offers more price reduction than Wayland, which is ~20%?

Well for the extra 5% (though i'm not sure about their european policy) you might like to try miniatures by post (http://www.miniaturesbypost.com/) and gaming figures (http://www.gamingfigures.com/)

My plan is very inprecise- i think i'll be going for the 'regiment and a treat' method each month. I'm not going to bother with precise points values at first- just so long as i can churn out 20 rankers and a cannon, wizard or other such hero each month i know i'll have hit the 200 mark. Of course making sure i've got the regiments all converted up for when i need to paint them will require my much lacking skills of organisation :D

Dr Death

Gargobot
16-07-2009, 09:49
Well for the extra 5% (though i'm not sure about their european policy) you might like to try miniatures by post (http://www.miniaturesbypost.com/) and gaming figures (http://www.gamingfigures.com/)
Thank you very much for the links, didn't know these retailers before. Sadly miniatureybypost is UK only (I even considered a budget flight, but unfortunately they are not that cheap) and gamingfigures is cheaper but takes more than twice the money (compared to wayland) for shipping, which would mean I'd have to pay more.
Added them to my bookmarks nonetheless, might come in handy one day.

MindTheGap
16-07-2009, 10:36
Hi guys n' gals!

So glad I found this thread - I've entered into the TOFP for my first army which is, of course, going to be Empire. If you could put me down for 2000 points within this thread, that'd be appreciated.

As this is my move over to playing instead of just painting, I've managed to cobble together (with soooo much help from caboose123 - thanks, mate!) which should serve me well as an all round army with which I can finally learn the skills to play WHFB. I was originally going to go with a Middenheim theme on the following list:

Captain BSB with Full Plate, Barded Steed and Hammer Of Judgement
Warrior Priest with Van Horstmann's, Barded Steed and Shield
Wizard with Level 2 and Rod Of Power
Wizard with Level 2 and Orb Of Thunder
x20 Swordsmen with FC
Detachment of x10 Handgunners
Detachment of x10 Halberdiers
x5 Knights
x5 Knights
x15 Flagellants with Prophet Of Doom
x10 Handgunners with Marksman and Brace Of Pistols
x10 Archers with Huntsmen upgrade
x20 Greatswords with FC
Detachment of x10 Halberdiers
Great Cannon
Great Cannon
Mortar
Hellblaster Volleygun
(1999 Total)

...however, does everyone think this is appropriate for a Middenheim army? As a fairly old hand at painting, but a totally new player, any comments and advice for a suitable province are greatly appreciated. The reason I'm looking at Middenheim is because of the few Empire figs I already own, I have 2x Warrior Priests of Ulric and the Teutogen Guard Command Group - I know I shouldn't really base my entire army on the few models I already have, so if anyone can suggest a Province that my army list reflects more truely, please let me know - I'm still a little clueless and researching out the fluff for the Empire!

Looking forward to getting my teeth into this project - and to seeing everyone else's work, ideas and lists, too!

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can offer.

Gappy

Gargobot
16-07-2009, 11:04
Well welcome. :)
I don't see why this shouldn't be a Middenheim army, especially when you use the Ulric priest for the Warrior Priest and the Teutogen Guard for Greatswords. If you paint the knights to be Knights Panther or White Wolves, it would further help the Middenheim feel.

ThothAmarth
16-07-2009, 11:16
So heres what i'll be doing for the tale.


General of the Empire on Griffon with Runefang
Warrior Priest
Level 2 Wizard
25 Swordsmen with a 9 man Halberdier and a 10 man Archer detachment
25 Swordsmen with a 9 man Halberdier and a 10 man Archer detachment
20 Flagellants
5 Outriders
Greatcannon
Steam Tank

All in an Altdorf scheme. Ten models in and i'm already beginning to regret this colour choice :p .

Heres one of the test models. I can't decide whether or not to give the blue areas a wash of Asurmen Blue.

EmperorNorton
16-07-2009, 13:09
...however, does everyone think this is appropriate for a Middenheim army?
It's a bit heavy on blackpowder weapons for a Middenheim theme, but going by the Heraldry book the Ulricans don't appear to shun that newfangled way of shooting as much as they used to.
In fact I won't restrict myself in regards to blackpowder weapons in my Middenheim army - the Empire has it bad enough going against the newer armybooks - so I don't see why your list shouldn't be appropriate.
You'll likely have trouble finding more Teutogen to accompany your command group, though.

MindTheGap
16-07-2009, 13:52
@EmperorNorton - The command group I picked up from a generic toy shop while on holiday in Cornwall earlier this year - £3 for the blister of 3 models, so I was quite chuffed! As I've said, I usually only paint models for the love of it, and these were purchased purely because I liked the look of the figs - and now I've chosen my first army as Empire, I'd love to use the models if I can. PLease don't forget that this is my first 'real' army, so bear with me if I've got things wrong...

I was thinking of using the command group as the command for the Greatswords, but have the regular Greatswords for the R&F of the unit - do you think this would work, or would it just look out of place / silly?

Thanks for your feedback on the list and chosen Province - nice to find a fellow Middenheim General!

EmperorNorton
16-07-2009, 14:02
I was thinking of using the command group as the command for the Greatswords, but have the regular Greatswords for the R&F of the unit - do you think this would work, or would it just look out of place / silly?
They are made in a fairly different style, so it would take some getting used to. I'm not even sure the paint is going to help tying them together as the Teutogen are pretty much just armour and wolf cloak, whereas the Greatswords would have to sport some more colours.
It'd be a shame to let the Teutogen command go to waste, though, as they are fantastic minis, so I say go for it.

Or you could use them as hero models. The standard bearer would make a fine army standard bearer (and in fact he looks almost identical to the LE army standard bearer that came with the Middenheim army box).

Grimtide
16-07-2009, 15:32
The second was to use the Empire pistolier horses/ bodies and slap on lances and Knightly order helmets. You'd have to green stuff some barding (or not, if your gaming group doesn't care one way or another), but I think they would look very cool in the end.

I was actually looking at the Pistolier heads/bodies as an option, but its hard to say what'll work until its in your hands.


Using Chaos horses on the other hand, has the disadvantage that you have to file off all those arrows, and then the heads still look very chaosy, and either your Empire Knights look very small on those horses or you use the Chaos riders, which again look very much chaotic.

In line with what I was thinking, still there probable the best base if your willing to do the work. With time constraints in play I don't think its an option.

Thanks for the comments guys

MindTheGap
16-07-2009, 16:38
@EmperorNorton - I'll give it a go using the Command Group with the Greatswords - if it looks plain weird, I'll replace them with the regular CG - and at least I'll have the Teutogen painted up for future use, too :)

I must admit... I'm gutted. Pure and simply gutted. Went out last night and got my nice shiney new Empire Battalion box.... and theres NO provisions for Knights of the White Wolf. At all. Do the sprues in the regular Knightly Orders boxes have White Wolf stuff, does anybody know?

EmperorNorton
16-07-2009, 16:56
I must admit... I'm gutted. Pure and simply gutted. Went out last night and got my nice shiney new Empire Battalion box.... and theres NO provisions for Knights of the White Wolf. At all. Do the sprues in the regular Knightly Orders boxes have White Wolf stuff, does anybody know?

There was a thread about this in Fantasy General Discussion a couple of days ago.
Apparently the Knightly Orders box still comes with the White Wolf sprue, but the battalion does not (as GW doesn't let an opportunity slide to screw their customers).
I have two of those sprues left over. Send me your address and I'll send them to you.

Jim
16-07-2009, 17:00
@ Gappy: I'm sure I might have some spare White Wolf bitz if you would like them?

I'll go and have a rummage in my bitz box (that sounds so wrong :eek:) later to confirm...

In the mean time I have worked out a rough list to paint based on

a) Models I have
b) Models I like the look of
c) Maybe a half decent army to game with (but probably not :p)

General
BSB
Hero on Pegasus
Engineer w/ Long Rifle
20 Greatswords & 10 Free Company
20 State Troops with swords & 10 Free Company
2 x 10 Handgunners
10 Huntsmen
5 Knights w/command
5 Pitoliers w/ musician
Great Cannon
Helstorm Rocket
Steam Tank

The reason I've included the Pegasus rider is I won an ebay aution this week for this chap:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x209/14177L/James/EmpireHeroOnPegasus.jpg

Who I believe is an old Marauder mini??? - Anyhoo I've always loved the model so I decided he had to be in my army! I've got to strip the paint off him first - any reccomendations on what to use???

Also any comments on my list would be appreciated in case I've missed something utterly obvious...

Cheers!

Jim

EmperorNorton
16-07-2009, 17:09
I'm not planning on using mine if you want them?

PM me your address and I'll wing 'em over to you.

Jim

Almost missed that.
Thanks for the offer, but as I said I'm likely to buy a box of archers anyway. If I end up not doing that I might get back to you.

Lord Dan
16-07-2009, 17:40
Hi guys n' gals!

So glad I found this thread - I've entered into the TOFP for my first army which is, of course, going to be Empire. If you could put me down for 2000 points within this thread, that'd be appreciated.

As this is my move over to playing instead of just painting, I've managed to cobble together (with soooo much help from caboose123 - thanks, mate!) which should serve me well as an all round army with which I can finally learn the skills to play WHFB. I was originally going to go with a Middenheim theme on the following list:

Captain BSB with Full Plate, Barded Steed and Hammer Of Judgement (108)
Warrior Priest with Van Horstmann's, Barded Steed and Shield (136)
Wizard with Level 2 and Rod Of Power (130)
Wizard with Level 2 and Orb Of Thunder (130)
x20 Swordsmen with FC (125)
Detachment of x10 Handgunners (80)
Detachment of x10 Halberdiers (50)
x5 Knights 115
x5 Knights 115
x15 Flagellants with Prophet Of Doom (160)
x10 Handgunners with Marksman and Brace Of Pistols(85)
x10 Archers with Huntsmen upgrade (100)
x20 Greatswords with FC (230)
Detachment of x10 Halberdiers (50)
Great Cannon (100)
Great Cannon (100)
Mortar (75)
Hellblaster Volleygun (110) (1999 Total)

...however, does everyone think this is appropriate for a Middenheim army? As a fairly old hand at painting, but a totally new player, any comments and advice for a suitable province are greatly appreciated. The reason I'm looking at Middenheim is because of the few Empire figs I already own, I have 2x Warrior Priests of Ulric and the Teutogen Guard Command Group - I know I shouldn't really base my entire army on the few models I already have, so if anyone can suggest a Province that my army list reflects more truely, please let me know - I'm still a little clueless and researching out the fluff for the Empire!

Looking forward to getting my teeth into this project - and to seeing everyone else's work, ideas and lists, too!

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can offer.

Gappy
The list looks good! Welcome to the tale! I've put you down for Middenheim even though you're undecided, so let me know if you change your mind at some point. I agree with EmperorNorton about the blackpowder abundance, however I don't see this as something that would be army-breaking. Now, if it had 2 steam tanks and 3 units of handgunners...




So heres what i'll be doing for the tale.


General of the Empire on Griffon with Runefang
Warrior Priest
Level 2 Wizard
25 Swordsmen with a 9 man Halberdier and a 10 man Archer detachment
25 Swordsmen with a 9 man Halberdier and a 10 man Archer detachment
20 Flagellants
5 Outriders
Greatcannon
Steam Tank

All in an Altdorf scheme. Ten models in and i'm already beginning to regret this colour choice :p .

Heres one of the test models. I can't decide whether or not to give the blue areas a wash of Asurmen Blue.
I love the Altdorf scheme! Looking great so far, though I might recommend a different color for the shield to break up the blue and red. Welcome to the tale.


The reason I've included the Pegasus rider is I won an ebay aution this week for this chap:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x209/14177L/James/EmpireHeroOnPegasus.jpg

Who I believe is an old Marauder mini??? - Anyhoo I've always loved the model so I decided he had to be in my army! I've got to strip the paint off him first - any reccomendations on what to use???

That's a pretty cool old model.

it's coming this way!
16-07-2009, 18:57
Hey Lord Dan, any chance I can get in on this support group? This is exactly what i need to actually get my ass in gear for my empire!

MindTheGap
16-07-2009, 19:17
@Jim - Fairy Power Spray works every time for me on both metal and plastics - don't use it on resins, though, unless you want a squishable model O_o Also, thanks for the kind offer re: White Wolf Sprues - gonna go and see the boys at WHW and tell them in no uncertain terms that I was advised to get this set after a member of staff had read my list, so they knew it was a Middenheim army, hense I'd need the White Wolves stuff. More than likely wont work a fig, but hey... worth a try, huh?!

@EmperorNorton - Thanks for your kind offer, too - I'll see how I get on sulking in front of the WHW staff...

....and when that gets me nowhere, I'll more than likely pm both of you for a trade ;P

Lord Dan
16-07-2009, 19:52
Hey Lord Dan, any chance I can get in on this support group? This is exactly what i need to actually get my ass in gear for my empire!

Of course you can! Let me know the specifics.

Arduhn
16-07-2009, 21:26
Hmm, as it happens, I have a box of 10 Teutogen Guard at the store I work at. Unfortunately, I am located in western Canada. :(

Then again, if you have a paypal account, perhaps I can get them for you, they are $44.99 CAD, but I could cut that down to $35 CAD plus shipping. Let me know if you're interested.

I have a couple of the commands as well.

Harvey
17-07-2009, 12:46
Hi folks,

just found this thread and I think it sounds like an excellent idea. I've been hoarding Empire figures for a few months now in preparation for signing up for the next round of ToFP. So far I've amalgamated one each of the last three Empire battalion editions as well as an Empire general box; hopefully the huge amount of bits will give me plenty of scope for customisation.

I'm going to shy away from my normal habit of painting everything in blue, grey or camo, and go for the striking red and white of Talabheim. After quick count of the sprues I reckon I have:

16 old style unipose spearmen
30 new swordsmen
10 goldswords
16 old style handgunners
20 new style handgunners
24 knights
5 pistoleers
2 mounted generals/captains
2 standard bearers
2 great cannons

Having dusted off my ancient copy of Terror in Talabheim, I'll probably split the knights into three and paint them as the Order of the Red Shield, the Order of the Stag and Knights Panther for a red/green/blue colour scheme. The infantry I'll theme around the Taalbaston Guard. I'd like to put some emphasis on Taal as the deity of choice, so I'm be thinking about getting some archers to represent Taal's Chosen woodsmen, as well as a priest of Taal and perhaps a wizard of the Amber or Jade College as well.

Any advice or suggestions would be gratefully received. I have no idea of painting schedule as yet - I'll probably start with the infantry blocks and save the higher point stuff for months when I run short of time.

I've attached a few photos to practice as I've never done it before!

Jim
17-07-2009, 12:56
and perhaps a wizard of the Amber or Jade College as well. Any advice or suggestions would be gratefully received.
I've attached a few photos to practice as I've never done it before!

Welcome to the support thread and good luck for the upcoming Tale!

If you haven't seen it already, this months White Dwarf has an article about Empire wizards and has some great conversions - in particular the Amber & Jade ones stand out. I believe there are more photo's on the GW website if you can find them!!! Could be worth you checking out???

...and the photo's turned out fine - good test!!! :p

Jim

it's coming this way!
17-07-2009, 13:58
Okay, my specifics:

Goal: 2000pts (will probably exceed this)
Province: Ostland (considering doing all?)
Focus: SIGMAR!!!!11!!1!!!1!!!one!!

Right now, I'm sort of having a crisis, trying to decide whether or not to go for all Ostlanders, or units from across the empire, because deep-down, I really want to take Karl Franz on the Dragon.

Off the top of my head, Here's what I have:

1 Empire Hero (Mounted/On Foot)
2 Warrior Priests (one mid-conversion mounted)
60 (I think) State Troops (30 are going to be spears, 30 are going to be Greataxes/Greatswords)
10 Handgunners
10 Handgunners/Crossbowmen unassembled
5 Pistoliers
5 Pistoliers/Outriders unassembled
16 Knights
2 Great Cannons/Crew
1 Steam Tank
5 Kislevite Horse Archers

I think that's it in terms of models, and I get a paycheck today!

List-wise, I've got nothing, to tell you guys the truth. Gaming's always been my weekness as well, a gamer, so any help I can get with listmaking would be absolutely wonderful. My only real plans for what the army would look like would be a Steam tank and an Arch Lector on a War Altar... beyond that, I've really got no clue how the army should shape up.

The other thing, what do you guys think I should do (I know in the end it's my choice, but I like hearing other people's opinions)- Ostland only, or units from all over, with Karl Franz on the dragon?

Thanks a million!

-It's

Grimtide
17-07-2009, 20:02
I think focusing on an all Ostland force would be visually very strong. The black/white colour scheme is striking.

Gargobot
17-07-2009, 20:40
I think it would be absolutely okay to have Karl Franz lead your Ostland Army, if it has a reasonable size. Maybe make some of those Knights Reiksguard, and you're good to go.
Having one unit of each province might even look staged, I expect the provinces fight in homogenous formations, even if all the Empire comes together. As the troops are well attuned to another.
Dunno, in the end I'd just paint them as you like. (Yeah, I know great advice.:eyebrows:)

EmperorNorton
17-07-2009, 21:12
I vote for Ostland, as that brings us one step closer to having each province represented.

Arduhn
17-07-2009, 21:28
I vote Ostland as well, although a dragon in an Empire army would be interesting to see. I do prefer more of a low-fantasy flavour though, so my vote is for Ostland.

Lord Dan
17-07-2009, 22:37
I'll put you down for Ostland, primarily because I think there will be rioting in the streets if you don't...

Arduhn
17-07-2009, 23:17
...not that a mixed army with stuff from all around the Empire isn't a compelling and interesting theme. ;)

it's coming this way!
17-07-2009, 23:22
That's what it's looking like, Dan. Ostland it is! The white and black should be a good look!

@Arduhn: I'm really more of a low-fantasy sort of guy too, though I won't say no to a steam tank or a giant firebreathing death-lizard :D

Alright then guys, insane Sigmarite Crusaders from Ostland are coming your way-

I'll model them a nice northern look, in addition to the zealotry. So that means I'll start off strong with a nice sigmarite unit- Flagellants, perhaps?

Thanks for the help guys!

-It's

Arduhn
17-07-2009, 23:28
I might be starting off with my sigmarite stuff as well. Probably Flagellants, free company, and greatswords (not sigmarite). Maybe a 3rd Warrior Priest thrown in for good measure. I find the Sigmarite stuff easier to paint than my regular Averland troops, which have to be cleaner.

Grimtide
18-07-2009, 01:51
Hey Arduhn looking forward to seeing you're Averlanders, neighbours that they are and all!
Have a provisional list in play but weighing up pros and cons of crossbows over handguns. Southern theme does lean towards crossbows but is the +6 range comparable to -1 armour?

Arduhn
18-07-2009, 02:01
I find they tend to be about the same in terms of what they kill, but it often depends on whom you're fighting.

If I had to lean one way or the other...I do like that extra range. It gives them first turn shooting, and it lowers the half range mark. I currently have a unit of each.

I like your fluff, neighbor. I too have some of the old Sollanders in my lands.

If you want to see what I have so far, check out my plog. :)

liggu
18-07-2009, 09:19
Hello peoples, I might start an Empire army, and I think you are the people to ask.

Does anyone have a link to a website still selling the old style Empire battalion? The ones with puffy sleeves and all that sort of stuff?

Lord Dan
18-07-2009, 17:52
Ebay.com

That's about it. Independents can't order them in anymore. The only way I got my puffy sleeved spearmen was by asking a bunch of people if they had them.

Jim
19-07-2009, 18:05
@Jim - Fairy Power Spray works every time for me on both metal and plastics - don't use it on resins, though, unless you want a squishable model

Thanks for the reccomendation - That stuff is great! Paint just fell of the Pegasus...Really tempted to paint him first now rather than the troops!!!

Jim

Dark Apostle
19-07-2009, 19:56
Great thread, I'm doing 2000 pts of Wissenlanders for the tale, so I'd like to join the support group as well!

No specifics on the army composition yet, but expect the following convertions: knights, BSB, Arch lector and a battle wizard (grey of course, considering the grey army he'll join...)

I'll build the army around a simple narrative, every month will represent forces repsonding to the call for a muster to cleanse the southern mountain border of Wissenland from a hitherto unknown, but dark and brooding threat. Reports trickling in from the region tell of walking dead and worse, and the church has decided to respond in force, giving command to a high ranking priest and urging the nobles and knights of Wissenland to take up arms in the name of Sigmar!

it's coming this way!
20-07-2009, 12:53
Sounds like it's gonna be a great army Dark Apostle!

List-Wise, are you guys writing legitimate army lists, or just a more lax 2000 point list?

Lord Dan
20-07-2009, 17:23
Personally I'm writing a legitimate army list, simply because that's where I'm starting from.

Jim
20-07-2009, 17:25
Sounds like it's gonna be a great army Dark Apostle!

List-Wise, are you guys writing legitimate army lists, or just a more lax 2000 point list?

Mines not totally costed out yet and to be fair I will probably change things as I go...I just wanted to get a sense of the task ahead of me so I could roughly work out what I should be painting each month.

@ Dark Apostle: I really like the 'narrative' way you are going to order your painting for the tale...are you going to include some text in your entries each month???

Jim

Gargobot
20-07-2009, 18:13
I wrote a legitimate army list, just for protocol really (it's total rubbish). The 2000 points I paint for the ToFP will make a decent 2000 points army with the stuff I've already painted.

Deusmex
20-07-2009, 20:10
Ostermark here, but only 1000 points cos I have some other stuff on the go as well.

My biggest challenge I think wont be painting 3 armies at once but trying to make a purple and yellow army look believable. Although the discription does give me an cop out clause of purple and white. Will see how it goes.
Looking forward to seeing all these Empire armies grow.

Arduhn
20-07-2009, 20:47
Foundation paints do wonders for yellow. A few good recipes are: tausept with a wash or two of sepia; darksun, sepia wash, hilight with darksun mixed with golden yellow or sunburst yellow.

You can look at my painting log to see examples of each.

Deusmex
21-07-2009, 05:46
Nice work there Arduhn. I really like your Fire Wizard, awesome job .
My plan the first month is to do some Free Company with a variety of paint styles to work out the colour scheme for the regular troops.

I figure Ostermark wont have a huge Standing Army but will have a lot of Part Timers , so even the regular troops will have an irregular appearance, where they have all grabbed what ever they could that was in their Provinces Colours. Farmers , Retired Veterans, hunters and misfits all Standing shoulder to shoulder with the regulars.

Thats the basic plan anyway.

Lord Dan
21-07-2009, 07:02
Here's my yellow formula:
-Basecoat vomit brown
-Highlight with a mix of vomit brown and golden yellow. There is no set ratio to this, so long as the tint is more yellow than brown.
-Highlight with golden yellow. This should take about 3 coats.
-Highlight with 50:50 golden yellow/ sunburst yellow.
-Highlight with sunburst yellow

I honestly haven't found an "easy" way of doing it. The most important thing to remember is to use thin coats- thick coats are a tempting way to coat quickly, however they just look gloppy in the end.

I did a few prototype Stirlanders using the above method. I'll get them up in the next couple of days..

Arduhn
21-07-2009, 07:30
Golden yellow has terrible pigment saturation, but it's such a nice colour. I find if you mix it with Iyanden Darksun it's a nice mix of pigment and the good shade of Golden Yellow. Only takes one coat and you get the kind of results you see on the newest hero.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5998/stuff001.jpg

Glad you like my stuff Deusmex. :)

Dark Apostle
21-07-2009, 07:33
@ Dark Apostle: I really like the 'narrative' way you are going to order your painting for the tale...are you going to include some text in your entries each month???


Yeah, that's the plan if it's allowed - I remember some other member of this site being told by the mods to take the narrative to another part of the forum, and keep the project logs to painting/conversions (although it was his own painting-plog, not the TOFP).

Anyway - anyone got a fire wizards head (the new plastic one)? If so, I'm willing to trade/buy. Please send me a PM or post in this thread!

Arduhn
21-07-2009, 07:43
I do, but I'll wait and see if someone else closer to Sweden has one.

EmperorNorton
21-07-2009, 11:33
I do, too.
Anybody even closer to Sweden?

Lord Dan
21-07-2009, 18:10
Closer than Germany? So you mean, like...in Sweden? :D

EmperorNorton
21-07-2009, 19:24
Closer than Germany? So you mean, like...in Sweden? :D

Denmark, maybe.
Anyway, Dark Apostle please PM me an address and I'll send the head to you. And let me know if there are any other bitz you need.

If I'm not completely mistaken we're only missing Stirland and the Moot to have every province represented (and that is not counting Lord Dan's army).
Okay, that's fudged a little, lumping together Middenheim and Middenland, Talabheim and Talabecland (Harvey is missing from the list in the first post btw.) and counting Altdorf as Reikland.

Since Harry hasn't declared which colours his 1000 points of the Empire will fly I think we should all chip in for a bribe pie.
And I'm in favour of inviting Lt Dougheim (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208215) and his numerous little friends to join.

it's coming this way!
21-07-2009, 20:00
Isn't Sylvania a province?

and yes, we definitely need those halflings to join us!

Deusmex
21-07-2009, 22:22
Tried a couple of test schemes tonight.... lets just say black primer will not be an option.

Im a little out on my comfort zone with this scheme and I like it so far. Its forcing me to try out diferent things, which is nice.

Cant wait to get started now.

Gargobot
21-07-2009, 22:48
Isn't Sylvania a province?

and yes, we definitely need those halflings to join us!

After Hel Fenn it became part of Stirland, of course someone could do pre-Vampire Sylvania. But following EmperorNorton's loose interpretation of every province I think we would be good to go with only Stirland.

Halflings would of course be a nice addition.

grhino
22-07-2009, 14:00
More people who already secretly started priming the state troops, incl. foundation base colours? There's so many models otherwise... and I've just recieved a Chaos battalion and will pick up a TK battalion, three carrion and a TK screaming skull catapult this weekend...

Lord Dan
22-07-2009, 15:56
More people who already secretly started priming the state troops
With the model count our armies have, we'll take any advantage we can manage. ;)

Dr Death
22-07-2009, 17:42
I've not been priming myself (in fact quite the reverse, i've been stripping some models) but i have been feverishly assembling and converting models for the army.

Incidentally- my guide to knights i mentioned earlier isnt just all bluff- i've just ordered the boxes needed for five of the beauties, which did mean spending the money for the plastic greatswords, but hey i order from miniatures by post so they're down to about £18.

Looking at the greatsword sprue pics doesnt it seem like the perfect character kit? Half the arms arent even wielding the eponymous swords, all the heads are packed with character, the armour is nice and ornate. If they had shoved in a horse and marketed it as a general/captain kit it'd be worth every penny of the £25. For my Hochland force i'm unlikely to buy any more than one of them since i already have 25 of the old metal greatswords so the bits left over from my knights will be used for captain purposes :)

Dr Death

Jim
22-07-2009, 21:56
Isn't Sylvania a province?

and yes, we definitely need those halflings to join us!

I'd be tempted to use Lumpin Croops Fighting Cock's as Huntsmen in my army if they weren't so bloody expensive - have you seen how much they are on the GW website??!! :eyebrows:

Very Expensive Small People (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300190&prodId=prod1140052)

Seriously, that seems a lot...

Anyhoo - I have now stripped my Pegasus, built 20 handgunners, 10 Swordsman, 5 Huntsmen, 1 Great Cannon and also my remaining pool of characters (General, BSB, Wizard & Engineer)...Beginning to worry about painting them all!!!

Jim

Lord Dan
22-07-2009, 22:18
Do you have a plan for what you'll be painting month 1?

it's coming this way!
23-07-2009, 03:17
I'd be tempted to use Lumpin Croops Fighting Cock's as Huntsmen in my army if they weren't so bloody expensive - have you seen how much they are on the GW website??!! :eyebrows:

Very Expensive Small People (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300190&prodId=prod1140052)

Seriously, that seems a lot...

Anyhoo - I have now stripped my Pegasus, built 20 handgunners, 10 Swordsman, 5 Huntsmen, 1 Great Cannon and also my remaining pool of characters (General, BSB, Wizard & Engineer)...Beginning to worry about painting them all!!!

Jim

Here's what you could do if you wanted some:
http://www.jrn-works.dk/gallery/GWimperial/HalflingAssassin/1.jpg
http://www.jrn-works.dk/gallery/GWimperial/HalflingAssassin/2.jpg

Here's a Jakob Rune Nielsen model that's made from (old) night goblin legs and an (old) empire swordsman upper body. Not the PERFECT halfling conversion, but it's stuck with me a long time as something to try out. If nobody else uses halflings, I sure as hell will! Though I'm not sure if they really make it up to the northern provinces like Ostland.

Hope that helps somebody out,
-It's

MindTheGap
23-07-2009, 08:47
Hi Guys!

Manically trying to clean up and assemble some more figs - managed to get done the BSB captain, one Amber wizard, the Ulric Priest, one of the x10 Halberdier detachments, x10 huntsmen, the mortar & crew and one of the cannons & crew, so not doing too badly so far.

Just about to launch in to the 2 lots of 5 Knights Of The White Wolf units - thanks again to EmperorNorton & Jim, but I've managed to get enough parts to complete both of the units with White Wolf bits.

So how's everyone else doing? Units going OK? Getting inspired? Getting sick of working around codpieces yet?

Cheers!
Gappy

EmperorNorton
23-07-2009, 09:54
Not doing so well at the moment as the weather doesn't allow me to undercoat my stuff.
There are 27 Teutogen standing around waiting to be primered. 13 more have already been partially painted, as they had been undercoated previously.
Later I'll take a look at my knights and see if they need any prep or repair work. Can't really build anything either at the moment, though, as I'm waiting for a shipment of Zap A Gap (among other things).
Yesterday I saw that I accidentally signed up with a second army for the ToFP, bringing my total to three, which can only blow up in my face. So the other armies need some attention, too.
And I'm trying to get sixty skeletons done until the end of the month to finish the current ToFP succesfully. I've been sidetracked by a little something else, though. Pictures are likely to appear in my blog later today or tomorrow.

Dark Apostle
23-07-2009, 11:46
I haven't primed anything yet, but I'll try to get most of the army built this month so that I can focus on the painting later on. I have plans for some demanding conversions that will require some time as well. The new empire uniforms book is invaluable as an inspirational resource, almost dangerously so - it's tempting to really personalise every single miniature, which of course isn't possible when building a whole army. I'm also pondering starting a new blog dedicated to my army, but maybe ithat's overkill since we already have this thread and the TOFP?

How do the rest of you go about building your units - straight out of the box, minor conversions, or all-out conversion madness?

Deusmex
23-07-2009, 12:07
In my head all my units will be converted to death with each trooper individually named with a full history and possibly a model family to go back to.

In reality 90% will be straight out the box .

Maybe 95%

Gargobot
23-07-2009, 15:17
Straight out the box, at most some kit-bashing. I'm not much of a conversion guy (is converter an appropriate term? sounds weird).
But I'm looking forward to the conversions you guys are planning.
Speaking of conversions you should check out Lord Dan's log he's on to something big.

EmperorNorton
23-07-2009, 16:02
My stuff is already built for the most part, which I did before I was comfortable with attempting conversions, so it's straight out the box for me as well.

it's coming this way!
23-07-2009, 17:02
My army... I don't think 100% of it will be converted, but they're from Ostland, damnit! They need to look different from troops from the Southern bits of the Empire!

I'm planning on giving them a winter-y look, but my only fear with adding fur linings to things is that it will make them look too Ulric-ish? (though, fluffwise, this may be appropriate?) The nice part about the kits is that they're all STUPIDLY interchangeable, and just headswaps can really do a lot for a model.

In terms of building/priming the army... I'm not sure what I'll do... I'll be converting a lot of it, so I can't say if I'll just build things the month I paint them, or if I'll do it in advance. Big plans for things like my Steam Tank, and I might do a Giant just for the hell of it.

I need to write up a list, that's what my project needs- Direction. Once I figure out what would make an Ostland troop different from weaker ones :p, I think I'll be able to get going better, because I think I'm redefining the army to focus more on the province, and less on the God. I've been reading for 5 years about the "grim troops of the empire," and damnit, that's what mine will be!

MindTheGap
23-07-2009, 18:22
@EmperorNorton - I can empathise with not being able to prime your figs - I've been running in and out of the house throughout the day between heavy showers of rain, too!

Conversion-wise, a majority are out of the box, with a number of kit-bashed models for a bit of variety (one is rather silly if I do say so myself... but you'll see soon enough....)

Still havent got those Knights finished yet, either :( The inspiration you guys offer is driving me forward in this project - although I think what I really need is somebody stood behind me with a big pointy stick to stop me getting side-tracked with other stuff!

So - anybody got any snippets / piccies of any of their units or conversions yet, or is it all going to be kept a secret until the official ToFP thread starts?

Deusmex
23-07-2009, 18:34
I did a paint test but that is all. Wont be able to buy anything till next Thursday then it will be bedlam.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/Blood%20Ravens/Empire/DSCF2619light-1.jpg

Lord Dan
23-07-2009, 20:16
My army... I don't think 100% of it will be converted, but they're from Ostland, damnit! They need to look different from troops from the Southern bits of the Empire!
Just out of curiosity, will your army field lots of halberdiers? I know armies from Ostland put them to good use tearing through Beastmen, I was just wondering if you would be taking the power hit to field them and make your army that much more fluff-oriented?


Straight out the box, at most some kit-bashing. I'm not much of a conversion guy (is converter an appropriate term? sounds weird).
But I'm looking forward to the conversions you guys are planning.
Speaking of conversions you should check out Lord Dan's log he's on to something big.
"Converter" certainly works, though your choice of "conversion guy" was much smoother.
Thanks for the plug, GB. Speaking of big things I'm working on (albeit slowly):
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb113/SirLordDan/elephant.jpg
Forgive the rather hasty, grimdark photo. I'll throw an explanation in my plog (so now you have to look ;)).


I did a paint test but that is all. Wont be able to buy anything till next Thursday then it will be bedlam.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/Blood%20Ravens/Empire/DSCF2619light-1.jpg
You don't use primer?

Deusmex
23-07-2009, 23:19
Normally I prime with black , for this army I will prime it white, but as I didnt have any I gave them a quick coat of the light stone foundation paint.

Seems to work , but I will be buying some white spray for the job.

EmperorNorton
26-07-2009, 07:37
I need some advice.
How would one best painted coloured armour (red for the White Wolves, blue for the Panthers)?
I'm thinking of a silver undercoat with the colour drybrushed on.

Also, I'm not sure how to do snow bases. I have a tub of GW's snow, which I guess I can just glue to a base, mabe add some slate. That probably won't be too impressive, though.
One thing I'm especially wondering about is how to make tracks in the snow.

And does anybody know parts I could use for a sleigh that fits on a chariot base?

Deusmex
26-07-2009, 08:56
Do you want metallic red or blue armour, or do you want red or blue armour with metal showing through at worn areas like edges and damage?

EmperorNorton
26-07-2009, 10:13
Do you want metallic red or blue armour, or do you want red or blue armour with metal showing through at worn areas like edges and damage?

I'm not sure.
I think the latter as the former will probably look a bit too cartoony.

Deusmex
26-07-2009, 11:14
I'm not sure.
I think the latter as the former will probably look a bit too cartoony.

For that I paint the colour as I would normally, then where I want the bare metal showing I paint it black then the metal leaving a fine line of the black showing. like on this battle suit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/DSCN0524copy-1.jpg

There is a method Tank modelers have used where you paint the metal then the colour and then when its all dry get a stiffish dry brush with nothing on it and go nuts. apparantly this will remove paint on the edges leaving metal showing, but I havent tried this method so I have no idea if it works.

Dark Apostle
26-07-2009, 12:26
Painting the armour with the desired colour and then metallic stripes on edges and protruding areas will make it look like the armour is laquered, then scratched. If you want a tinted metallic, start with silver/chainmail, and wash with the desired colour (blue, red, etc.), then highlight with metallic.

Good-looking snow can be made like this (see my eldar plog for pictures):
Mix of bicarbonate of soda and PVA glue, maybe add a bit of white paint and GW snow to the mix.
Slab the mix onto the base, then sprinkel som bicarbonate of soda over it.
Just make sure you use a PVA glue that dries white or without colour, some glues get a yellow tint, and believe me, you don't want that.

To make footprints, just press the feet of a suitable miniature onto the snow-covered areas before the mix has dried. If you are really carefull you could try to tint the footprints ever so lightly with really thinned-out blue colour (e.g. ice blue) to create some shadow, but the colour will easily tint the surrounding areas as well, so you might have to experiment a bit to get it right.

Hope this helps.

EmperorNorton
26-07-2009, 13:07
For that I paint the colour as I would normally, then where I want the bare metal showing I paint it black then the metal leaving a fine line of the black showing. like on this battle suit.

It looks good on the battle suit, but I'm not sure it would work as well on the smaller knights. I'll keep it in mind, though.


If you want a tinted metallic, start with silver/chainmail, and wash with the desired colour (blue, red, etc.), then highlight with metallic.
I think I'll try this first.


Good-looking snow can be made like this (see my eldar plog for pictures):
Mix of bicarbonate of soda and PVA glue, maybe add a bit of white paint and GW snow to the mix.
Bicarbonate of soda would be the stuff I can get at the supermarket, right?

Dark Apostle
26-07-2009, 15:20
Bicarbonate of soda would be the stuff I can get at the supermarket, right?

You should be able to find it at any grocery store.

Arduhn
26-07-2009, 18:16
Also known as baking soda.

EmperorNorton
26-07-2009, 19:29
I'll see to get some of that next week and make a test base, which I can let sit around for a couple of weeks to see if there's any discoloration.

it's coming this way!
28-07-2009, 02:19
Aah! My brother just got back from the beach with the camera, and it got wet!

Hopefully I'll be able to get one within the next month :mad:

Arduhn
29-07-2009, 02:12
Dang man, that's harsh. I was just checking the front page, we are only missing 2 provinces, Talabecland and Stirland. I can't believe we don't have anyone who's doing Talebheim. I used to do a Talebheim army.

it's coming this way!
29-07-2009, 03:22
I was just thinking that, actually. Talabheim seems like the army they push most... perhaps that's why?

Maybe we should make a few of those Hochland players switch over :p

-It's

Gargobot
29-07-2009, 03:31
Me and my Hochland buddies will ignore this notion. :mad:

But seriously, would be nice if we could get the last provinces. Aren't there some Empire painters left who did register for the ToFP but didn't for the Support Group? Maybe one of those paints one of the missing provinces. (Hope dies last.)
After a good night's rest I'll make some inquiries. :cool:

it's coming this way!
29-07-2009, 03:37
Bah! Well, I'd do Stirland myself if I wasn't already The Ostland Guy :angel:

But some shameless group promotion on the signup thread can't hurt!

EmperorNorton
29-07-2009, 07:52
Okay, let's get some recruiting efforts started.
Here's the people who have signed up for the ToFP with an Empire army (taken from Harry's list in the sign-up thread):

MEN: (200 Points/Month)

Arduhn : Empire
BeatTheBeat : Empire
conquest miniatures : Empire
Dark Apostle : Empire
Dr Death : Empire
Dry Erase : Empire
EmperorNorton : Empire
Fitzbaron : Empire
Gargobot : Empire
grhino : Empire
Grimtide : Empire
Harvey : Empire
its coming this way : Empire
Jim : Empire
Lord Dan: empire
MindTheGap : Empire
ThothAmorth : Empire
Zak : Empire


BOYS : (100 Points/Month)

EgoNinja :Empire
Harry : Empire

I have bolded the ones who have posted in this thread. Some have only posted once or twice, though, so a reminder might be in order.

Gargobot
29-07-2009, 14:01
MEN: (200 Points/Month)

conquest miniatures : Empire
Fitzbaron : Empire
Zak : Empire


BOYS : (100 Points/Month)

EgoNinja :Empire
Harry : Empire

I sent a PM to these five gentlemen. I'm afraid I sounded a little like salesman in some of them. Anyhoo, don't know if any of the five greatly missed members will show up, but in his sign-up post in the tale conquest miniatures said he was going to do Stirland. :)

The hair
29-07-2009, 20:08
Is it still early enough for me to sign up for this aswell for a mix-and-match force? I've ony just switched to Empire in the TOFP but Emperor Norton told me to check out this thread as well. Seems like a good idea to keep me going!

Lt Dougheim
29-07-2009, 23:20
I just signed up on the main board and would like to represent the most important part of the the empire, The MOOT!:D

Arduhn
29-07-2009, 23:39
@The hair, yes, of course you are welcome here. What is the theme/colour scheme of your army?

Welcome to you as well Lt Dougheim.

EmperorNorton
30-07-2009, 06:48
Glad to have you two.

The start of the Tale is almost upon us.
I think I have bitten off more than I can chew in taking three armies, but the Empire will be given priority.
Thankfully the Teutogen are easy to paint, so maybe I'll manage to get ahead with my painting in August.
My advice to everybody new to the tale is to start with the more numerous units while motivation is still high.

Dr Death
30-07-2009, 09:39
My advice to everybody new to the tale is to start with the more numerous units while motivation is still high.

Yeah, that is advisable. I'm trying to figure out a good rotation to do with my two armies- i'm down for 1000pts of Orcs and Goblins and my plan is basically to alternate and balance- where i have to get a regiment done for one army i'll do a couple of characters or war machines for the other.

I'm going to be painting my test models over today and tommorrow, get my painting arm back in good nick and just make sure my paint scheme (which i've carefully worked out yesterday) is working nicely (i'll make all due alterations on these test models). It'll also give me a good chance to see how long it'll take per model.

The plan is that all major areas of the figures will be painted with 5 layers, and in all cases possible, no mixes. At the same time i'm furiously converting, sculpting and tweaking various units for later in the tale- i've got a regiment of marching Halberdiers which is one project and i've whipped up a unit of archers. My swordsman and handgunner regiments which i assembled about two years ago will have to get the rest of the slash and puff sorted in my 'spare' time. I've also got to clean off my desk of all the Lord of the Rings and other waiting projects- i'm getting ready for a marathon :D

Dr Death

EmperorNorton
30-07-2009, 09:57
Speaking of converting, does anybody have an idea what a converted/scratch built Steam Tank could be made of?
When I got the Empire book I kinda made a promise to myself that I wouldn't field a Steam Tank unless I made it myself and then, annoyed by GW's new prices, I made a pledge to not buy one.

The hair
30-07-2009, 11:20
@The hair, yes, of course you are welcome here. What is the theme/colour scheme of your army?

It's a mix and match of different states really, all brought together under an Arch lector - at least that's the fluffy reasoning for it, the real reason was that I thought the more colours I used, the more interested I'll stay :P

It'll have Stirland, Bogenhafen, Talabheim, Nuln...units from a lot of provinces really, but I'll try and keep schemes for units true to the states they're most likely to represent (i.e Nuln hellblasters, Stirland huntsmen etc)

Conquest Miniatures
30-07-2009, 15:05
I'm still in and still around. I just have Super GADHD and so tend to log on intending to read and then see something shiney and wander off.

Stirland is my army for the year. T'was going to have a strong Morr/anti0undead theme, but I have toned it down a bit and will only include Knights of Morr and some Zealot Halberdiers

Mucho Greeno and yell-o

Arduhn
30-07-2009, 16:35
Cool, so we are only missing Talabecland/Talebheim.

EmperorNorton
30-07-2009, 16:42
Cool, so we are only missing Talabecland/Talebheim.

Pssst...look at post #59 of this thread.

Arduhn
30-07-2009, 16:48
Ah, I see, good good. So every province, including the Moot, is represented! Huzzah!

Gargobot
30-07-2009, 17:46
Hmm, Lord Dan should do an update on the first post, so we can all celebrate that (almost) every province is being painted.

W00t he hasn't logged on since July 24th. I'm worried now. :(

it's coming this way!
30-07-2009, 17:55
Speaking of converting, does anybody have an idea what a converted/scratch built Steam Tank could be made of?
When I got the Empire book I kinda made a promise to myself that I wouldn't field a Steam Tank unless I made it myself and then, annoyed by GW's new prices, I made a pledge to not buy one.


I told myself the same thing, then I unfortunately went to a GW store (which I rarely do) the same day I cashed a paycheck, and a rather pushy hobby manager showed me the model. Wasn't painted to an amazing standard, but oh my goodness was the model beautiful, so my resolve wavered. However, I'd love to see a scratch built Stank!

There's an article (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/workshop/build_stank.php) you might be able to draw some scratchbuilding inspiration from, some really great stuff down at the bottom. This (http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/diy_steampunk/) might also help for envisioning how steam engines would look

As far as my project goes, I'm just trying to work out a list, I'll probably throw one up here in an hour or two for you guys to look at, along with a general plan for where I'm going with my first few months of the Tale.

Also, glad to hear everybody's represented now, we've even got the moot! Glad to have everybody on board

-It's

EmperorNorton
30-07-2009, 18:09
There's an article (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/workshop/build_stank.php) you might be able to draw some scratchbuilding inspiration from, some really great stuff down at the bottom. This (http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/diy_steampunk/) might also help for envisioning how steam engines would look

Thanks, that's given me some inspiration.

Is anybody still looking for Teutogen Guard?
One of my favourite online stores has somehow found some boxes and is selling regiments of 20 Teutogen for 40€.

Arduhn
30-07-2009, 20:28
Hmm, Lord Dan should do an update on the first post, so we can all celebrate that (almost) every province is being painted.

W00t he hasn't logged on since July 24th. I'm worried now. :(

I'm sure he's just been busy. Sometimes I check Warseer several times in a day, other times I go a week without checking it, or even longer. He's probably getting his soldiers ready for painting, or doing non-warhammer stuff.

Lt Dougheim
30-07-2009, 21:25
Speaking of converting, does anybody have an idea what a converted/scratch built Steam Tank could be made of?
When I got the Empire book I kinda made a promise to myself that I wouldn't field a Steam Tank unless I made it myself and then, annoyed by GW's new prices, I made a pledge to not buy one.

Check out www.ironcladminiatures.co.uk. They sell a bunch of different steam punk victorian era tanks that could easily be converted. Plus they are very affordable.

EmperorNorton
30-07-2009, 22:01
Check out www.ironcladminiatures.co.uk. They sell a bunch of different steam punk victorian era tanks that could easily be converted. Plus they are very affordable.

Yeah, I found those yesterday and there's one I like (the Steam5), but I'll try scratch building first. If that fails, I'll likely get one from Ironclad to convert.

Ego Ninja
31-07-2009, 14:42
Hi!

First up - this is a really great idea and im shocked more support threads have yet to appear.

This will be my second tale so I thought I would give two armies a try this year :p

Ive signed up for a 1000 points of Empire, alongside my main force of daemons.

Im thinking about going down the Reikland route, with a few units from my own little town (ill put up some fluff soon ;)).

Im aiming to only use plastics - so expect alot of kit bashing :)

The list itself isnt quite ready yet, and I may even bump the army up to 2k if I get a chance to sit down and paint (im getting married in October so alot of my "free" time is spent planning etc).

Thats all from me for now, ill post up a WIP soon :)

Cheers guys

Ego

it's coming this way!
31-07-2009, 23:48
Hey guys, finally got list 1.0 set up for review by just about everybody I can get to review it.

I'm going with the general idea of 3 major blocks, and setting up flank charges with nilla knights and detachments

I'm not 100% on my character choices (I'd prefer a General of the Empire on a Griffon, as I think that would be an awesome model, but I don't know how it'd do game-wise.)

Arch Lector- 226pts
-Dawn Armor, Barded Warhorse, Sword of Sigmisund

Wizard- 150pts
-Level 2, 2x Dispell Scrolls

Wizard- 130pts
-Level 2, Rod of Power

Captain of the Empire- 138pts
-BSB, Griffon Standard, Full Plate

Halberdiers- 242pts
-24, Full Command

-9 Swordsmen

-6 Archers

Halberdiers- 237pts
-23, Full Command

-9 Swordsmen

-6 Archers

Knightly Order- 123pts
-5, Musician

Knightly Order- 123pts
-5, Musician

Flagellants- 250pts
-25

Pistoliers- 114pts
-5, Musician, Outrider w/ Repeater Pistol

Great Cannon- 100pts

Great Cannon- 100pts

Total, 1933pts. Not really sure what to do with the rest. My thoughts on it in general are:
- I feel like I should have Van Horstmann's in there somewhere
- I worry a little bit about Flagellants as a block, though they are unbreakable
-I'm leaning more towards a General of the Empire on a Griffon, but the Griffon is 200 points by itself, and the GotE's role typically isn't flying around apart from the army. Thoughts on this?

Any help would really be appreciated! This is my weakest part of the hobby by far.

-It's

Dark Apostle
01-08-2009, 07:09
Halberdiers- 242pts
-24, Full Command

-9 Swordsmen

-6 Archers

Halberdiers- 237pts
-23, Full Command

-9 Swordsmen

-6 Archers


Just wanted to say that I like these troop choises! I feel like every empire army should have some halberdiers, but apparently they don't perform very well in games compared to the other state troop choises. Personaly I compromise by having a detachment of halberdiers to each of my main infantry blocks.

Harry
01-08-2009, 07:52
Hello chaps.

Thanks for the invite. I was going to join you. Just finding the time.
In fact the reason I signed up late in the day for an Empire army was BECAUSE this thread appeared and quickly seemed like a very supportive and positive thing to be part of. I can see you guys really helping me get stuff painted. So very happy to join you.

Which state????



If I'm not completely mistaken we're only missing Stirland and the Moot to have every province represented

Since Harry hasn't declared which colours his 1000 points of the Empire will fly I think we should all chip in for a bribe pie.


Isn't Sylvania a province?

and yes, we definitely need those halflings to join us!


After Hel Fenn it became part of Stirland, of course someone could do pre-Vampire Sylvania. But following EmperorNorton's loose interpretation of every province I think we would be good to go with only Stirland.

Halflings would of course be a nice addition.
I am very tempted by a Stirland and Moot army. Very. BUT I see both those have been covered now.

Is there anything left which has not been done?

Where are we on a stand alone Riekland or Altdorf armies?

EmperorNorton
01-08-2009, 08:26
Is there anything left which has not been done?

Where are we on a stand alone Riekland or Altdorf armies?

We have both now, EgoNinja doing Reikland and ThothAmarth doing Altdorf.
We don't have Middenland or Talabecland, just Middenheim and Talabheim respectively.
And then there's Sylvania and Nuln.

I just hope that nobody who signed up forgot about the Tale.

Ego Ninja
01-08-2009, 14:24
Hi everyone,

Im having trouble painting "crisp" white/ ivory coloured feathers, they always end up looing a little on the dirty side (which really doesnt work well for the proud armies of Reikland ;)) - all the guides ive found use drybrushing, which again would look messy......so I thought I would pick your brains...anybody got any tips and/or ideas? Any help would be lovely :)

Cheers
Ego

Arduhn
01-08-2009, 16:33
I would probably start with a base-coat of Astronomicon Grey, then overbrush (sort of wet drybrush) a mix of white and bleached bone, then maybe a wash of bleached bone. I'm sort of guessing, hopefully that works for you.

And welcome Harry! Good to have you with us. One other possible theme, which I considered myself before choosing Averland, is Marienburg. Though no longer a part of the Empire, there was a themed army in the 6th edition Empire army book for Marienburg, and I think it would make a great, characterful theme. You could mix in a unit or two of Dogs of War if you like, you could have pirates and burghers, and such the like. Of course, whatever you choose, I'm sure you'll make it great.

Harry
02-08-2009, 08:20
OK I have been doing some reading.
I have a plan.
It is a good one. :D

I have just got to have a dig and check I have the minis to do it.

Dark Apostle
02-08-2009, 09:29
OK I have been doing some reading.
I have a plan.
It is a good one. :D

I have just got to have a dig and check I have the minis to do it.

Tell us already, you tease...

Anyway, sugggestions for my Archlector? I plan to field him on foot, with AoMI, Hammer of Judgement and Holy relic. I gather the book could be the relic, I just might attach a padlock to it:

Harry
02-08-2009, 12:34
I just wanted to check I had the minis to do it. I have.

This is what I am going with:

The Reiksguard.

The Empires army is made up of different forces from its contingent states. However the backbone of the Empire army is the Reiksguard, who are recruited across the Empire from amongst the elder sons of the nobility . They accompany the Emperor in war and peace. The Reiksguard is the personal army and personal bodyguard of the Emperor on the battlefield and in the course of his ceremonial duties.
The Reiksguard forms an elite core of highly trained, expensively-equipped troops who are loyal to the Emperor in person. Although few in number, the Reiksguard is the most important part of the army and usually forms up in the centre around the Emperor himself.

The Reiksguard is divided into warriors who fight on foot, refered to as the Reiksguard Regiment and a mounted arm known as the Reiksguard Knights.

The Reiksguard Knights are the Emperors best troops and form the core of the Imperial army. Many a battle has been won by the decisive charge by the Reiksguard knights.
The Knights carry tall lances and ride fierce stallions. The Reiksguard wear magnificent gilded armour, highly polished to a mirror like finish, scarlet sashes and their hems are adorned with tall, feathered red and white crest of the ruling Emperor Karl Franz. The Reiksguard Knights standard displays the emblem of Karl Franz and their lance pennants are decorated with crowns. The motto ‘Mallus’ painted on his knights armour means ‘hammer’.

The infantry arm of the Reiksguard, The Reiksguard Regiment are the Emperors own troops and are the nearest thing the Empire has to a state army. They are armed with heavy swords and shields and wear ornate steel armour which they keep polished to a mirror finish.

The 1000 points will look something like this:

Heroes:
Captain of the Reiksguard. Full plate, Warhorse. (68)
w. Wyrmslayer Sword (15)

Core:
15 Swordsmen. Inc Std, Mus and Champion. (115)
15 Swordsmen. Inc Std, Mus and Champion. (115)
15 Swordsmen. Inc Std, Mus and Champion. (115)
5 Reiksguard Knights. Inc Std, and Champion. (157)
5 Reiksguard Knights. Inc Std, and Champion. (157)

Special:
10 Greatswords. Inc : Std, Mus and Champ. (130)
10 Greatswords. Inc : Std, Mus and Champ. (130)

Total: 1002

it's coming this way!
02-08-2009, 20:36
@ Dark Apostle: My one suggestion is to convert the rest of your army to that level. Really inspirational AL! As far as the build goes, I dunno if I'm a huge fan of the Hammer of Judgment. Bearing in mind that I don't have a ton of in-game experience, it seems like it wouldn't be all that effective with just the two attacks the AL does. For those points, I'd rather take Van Horstmann's (5 more) or the Sword of Justice (5 less).

And yeah, about the halberdiers, it's fluffy for Ostland, but I'm kind of thinking I might go with spears instead, and replace the swordsmen with halberdiers like you said!

@ Harry: Great to see some Reiksguard! I'd forgotten all about them. As far as the list goes, I feel like splitting the 3rd unit of swordsmen between the first two in order to have 2 more solid blocks would be more effective. You've got a good ability to get your counter-charges in with those knights and greatswords, but I feel like two blocks of 20-25 would give the army a little more stability to receive charges and stuff. I'm anything but an Empire guru, but from my understanding of things, that's about what I would do.

On a more TOFP-related note, I'm really looking forward to the army. What are you going to be painting up for month 1?



As far as my project goes, I'm still not sure what I should do for month 1... I'll get a start after this week, I've got to finish one paper, and I've got midterm skills testing for firefighter recruit school. So after all that's out of the way, I'll be golden to get this army started!

Harry
02-08-2009, 21:47
LOL I have already re-organised the models into two big blocks as I was building them.

Sadly I am just short of a few of the models I would need to do two blocks of 25.

I will probably try and paint these blocks first and 'break the back' of the painting,

Matrim_Cauthon
03-08-2009, 07:54
Hi!

Is it still possible to sign up for this? I'm already doing a Dark Elf Army, but since all is going very well there, I have the time to spare to paint me some Empire.

I am planning on a Nordland Army, simply because I love their blue/yellow colour scheme. Also included will be my Sisters of Sigmar and Witch Hunters, to count as detachment and flagellants. I might try a kind of street base for my sisters... but am a bit afraid they would stand out too much compared to the rest of the army then. Well, only one way to find out!

Going to do a test mini soon, will post it as soon as it's done.

Now all I have to do is convince my wife and family to buy me Empire minis for my birthday :).

EmperorNorton
03-08-2009, 19:51
Hi!

Is it still possible to sign up for this?
Most certainly. Welcome on board.


Now all I have to do is convince my wife and family to buy me Empire minis for my birthday :).

Best of luck with that.




LOL I have already re-organised the models into two big blocks as I was building them.

Sadly I am just short of a few of the models I would need to do two blocks of 25.

I will probably try and paint these blocks first and 'break the back' of the painting,

I assume you will be using the old Reiksguard on foot models, but will you use them as Swordsmen or as Greatswords?

Also, due to a little personal conundrum I have to ask, would it be possible to change my Ogres to another Empire army, so that I'd do 400 points of Empire per month?

Harry
03-08-2009, 20:28
I assume you will be using the old Reiksguard on foot models, but will you use them as Swordsmen or as Greatswords?
Correct.


Also, due to a little personal conundrum I have to ask, would it be possible to change my Ogres to another Empire army, so that I'd do 400 points of Empire per month?
No problem.
Can you just post that in the other thread or I will forget to do it.

Gargobot
03-08-2009, 23:20
Also, due to a little personal conundrum I have to ask, would it be possible to change my Ogres to another Empire army, so that I'd do 400 points of Empire per month?
You rock!
Middenheim as well, or a little Middenland mixed in for good measure?
Did I mention that you rock? You do. :)

Lt Dougheim
04-08-2009, 00:53
Heres what Im planning on painting. Its mostly an all knight army. I already have a ton of infantry, archers and warmachines painted, but at Adepticon last year I was sorely lacking units that could delivery a decisive counterpunch. So with that in mind heres my Mootsguard list.:)

Lords: Elder Hisme Stoutheart on baby dragon = Karl Franz on dragon 700pts

Core: 10 Mootsguard knights with full command 270 pts
10 Mootsguard knights with full command 270 pts
10 Mootsguard knights with full command 270 pts
Rare: 2 Steam Tanks 600 pts

Total points come to 2110. My only problem will be converting all the knights as I only have 6 done. So my plan is to paint the tanks first to try and get ahead of schedule. Then Ill use one my jokers to hopefully allow me to build the rest of my knights.

Heres a picture of my knights to give you an idea of what Im planning.

Harry
04-08-2009, 06:43
Its a compact list. :D

But the knights are terrific.

EmperorNorton
04-08-2009, 09:11
Rare: 2 Steam Tanks 600 pts

What will you be using as Steam Tanks? The regular ones or do you plan to convert these, too?
I think the old, 5th Ed. metal Steam Tank would work well, as it's even smaller than successors.


You rock!
Middenheim as well, or a little Middenland mixed in for good measure?
Did I mention that you rock? You do. :)
I think the word you should use is "stupid".
I let myself get talked into painting an army for a Mighty Empires campaign that might take place in December. Army size: At least 3500 points.
While I think I can actually do that, I have my doubts that the friend who talked me into this will get far with his High Elves as he tends to lose interest fairly quickly. But if he does, all the better.
I thought I had solved my own Steam Tank problem by buying a metal one on ebay (for slightly less than a plastic one would have cost me from my online store of choice in the UK), but as I'm probably going to be facing multiple dragons I might choose to field two Steam Tanks, so I might yet scratchbuild one. Got a couple sheets of plasticard yesterday.

Arduhn
04-08-2009, 16:37
I recently received a private message from Lord Dan, or Porthos. He informed me that he has been absent this past week or so due to the death of his computer, may it rest in peace (pieces?). I hope you will join me in wishing him all the best.

Lt Dougheim
04-08-2009, 21:04
What will you be using as Steam Tanks? The regular ones or do you plan to convert these, too?
I think the old, 5th Ed. metal Steam Tank would work well, as it's even smaller than successors.

I have two of the older smaller steam tanks. For some reason I think most of the older models have so much more character. Anyway, I pretty much have the paint scheme worked out but I want to do something special on the bases for the tanks and dragon. I have a bunch of farm animals from mega miniatures that im thinking about putting on them. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.:)

EmperorNorton
04-08-2009, 21:48
I recently received a private message from Lord Dan, or Porthos. He informed me that he has been absent this past week or so due to the death of his computer, may it rest in peace (pieces?). I hope you will join me in wishing him all the best.
I wondered why he seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth. Hopefully he'll be with us again soon.


I have two of the older smaller steam tanks. For some reason I think most of the older models have so much more character. Anyway, I pretty much have the paint scheme worked out but I want to do something special on the bases for the tanks and dragon. I have a bunch of farm animals from mega miniatures that im thinking about putting on them. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.:)
A bit of farm atmosphere would be great IMO. I have a vision of a little steam tank rolling through a cabbage or carrot patch...

Grimtide
06-08-2009, 22:27
Hey guys,

After some serious consideration and a number of unsatisfactory test models I've decided to switch from Wissenland to Stirland. First units to follow!

Gargobot
07-08-2009, 03:10
I recently received a private message from Lord Dan, or Porthos. He informed me that he has been absent this past week or so due to the death of his computer, may it rest in peace (pieces?). I hope you will join me in wishing him all the best.
Good to know, hope he gets a new one soon. And not only because the OP needs to be updated. (Miss him :cries:)


Hey guys,

After some serious consideration and a number of unsatisfactory test models I've decided to switch from Wissenland to Stirland. First units to follow!
No worries, I had a little Wissenland army back in the days, the white was a pain, took ages to get it right.


So I've been busy painting, this is were I'm at atm:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/gargobot/IMG_1175.jpg

What do you think of the guy in the middle? I was wondering if I like the sleeves like that. Or if I should change them so both arms look the same.

Lord Dan
07-08-2009, 05:29
Hey everyone,

Just have a moment here to check up on things, as I don't have my new computer yet and am writing this out on a friend's. I was going to inform you of the reason behind my absence, however I see Arduhn beat me to it (and thank you, might I add). I promise I'll update the main page in the next couple of days.

Until then.

Dan

PS. The sleeves look ballin Aramis. They remind me of those green and red candy canes, as every Hochland cannon crewman should! In addition, I can only hope the definition of "ballin" has left you stumped.

Harry
07-08-2009, 06:54
I don't think I could bring myself to repaint such beautifully painted sleeves.
They look great.


(But if you do the left one as we look at it looks the best with the green on the ousid eand the red in the slashes). :D

it's coming this way!
07-08-2009, 14:34
Wow, great stuff! I've yet to really get around to my own

I'm thinking I'll do my 2 great cannons as test models for the rest of the army. That should give me some time to really work out how I want the army to look.

Gargobot
07-08-2009, 16:33
Thank you for the comments, sincerely. I'll leave the sleaves then.

@Lord Dan: I know this one as well, spent a summer ballin'. One of the regulars there was from NYC and he used the word in it's whole variety.
@Harry: I like that one best, but it seems the other one is still good enough to keep it.

ghost of scubasteve
07-08-2009, 22:20
the other day i was in some random hole in the wall hobby shop and in the back they had the empire army box for $100?!?

so, i bought it, havent had the chance to open it yet. i guess what im saying is ill probably be posting on here in a day or two with some questions about different empire armies??? wish me luck!

Harry
08-08-2009, 06:39
Great buy. Welcome to the Tale.

ghost of scubasteve
08-08-2009, 13:18
do we have an updated province list? which ones are yet unrepresented?

Harry
08-08-2009, 13:38
We don't have Middenland or Talabecland, just Middenheim and Talabheim respectively.
And then there's Sylvania and Nuln.
I don't think anything has changed except Emperor Norton is now doing Middenland as well as middenheim.

So that leaves three.

But you mustn't be restricted by the limited choice. You must follow you heart.
Are you a hairy ulric worshipping Middenheimer, or a well off and well equipped reiklander, or a poor peasant from Stirland, or battle hardened Ostlander. Or is it the colours that influence your desision. Do you just love the bright look of the red and yellow of Talabecland or the neutral cream/white of the Reiklanders. Etc....

Decisions ... decisions.

I am interested. how did others here reach their decision on which Province/state to choose?

Ego Ninja
08-08-2009, 13:40
I think it was discovering my old Reikland captains from the mordhiem range that decided it for me, that and I thought it would be nice to have a bright army for a change :)

Kaine
08-08-2009, 14:26
I've just altered my list a little so i'm now doing lizards (200pts), skaven (100pts) and empire (100pts)

For empire i'll be going with a Nuln themed army.

:)

Harry
08-08-2009, 14:45
Excellent leaving only Talabecland and Sylvania

Arduhn
08-08-2009, 15:45
I am interested. how did others here reach their decision on which Province/state to choose?

I wanted to try something with yellow in it since the foundation paints came out; I also wanted a rich area where I could have mercenaries if I wanted to and it would make sense. My final deciding factor was that I wanted my guys to have the most puffy-sleeved, colourful, plumed-out uniforms I could get.

At first I was torn between Marienburg and Averland, but Marienburg doesn't really do the puffy-sleeves, and since I had just returned from Germany, I was excited to do an army based on German history, so Marienburg, having more of a Dutch/Hanseatic League background to it, was less attractive as a result. Therefore, in the end, I went with Averland.

EmperorNorton
08-08-2009, 16:24
I am interested. how did others here reach their decision on which Province/state to choose?
The colours were the most important factor for me (Blau und Weiß, wie lieb ich dich...), only after that had determined my choice I took a look at the fluff, which turned out to be to my taste as well. And the Ulricans have some sweet minis as well.


I don't think anything has changed except Emperor Norton is now doing Middenland as well as middenheim.
Glad you brought that up, as I am in need of a bit of advice on how to set the two armies apart a bit since they both share the same colours.

And while I'm at it, what would be the best choice of sorcerer, esp. against High Elves?

MindTheGap
08-08-2009, 16:43
Hi Guys!

Apologies for the absence - flu is a pain in the behind :( Fortunately, it isn't Swine Flu, just the good ole' regular kind :rolleyes:

Since I've been feeling rather low and couldnt stop sniffling / sneezing / coughing, I've not really been able to get much achieved recently - however, I'm feeling a bit more my old self now and I'm eager to get on and get some figs painted up, so long as my brain promises not to try and escape through my ears when I sit upright at my painting desk..... an update will be posted (hopefully) very soon.

Hope everyone else is doing ok

@Gargobot - Sleeves are looking great!
@Lord Dan - Hope the 'pooter gets sorted soon

Gappy

P.S. Just out of curiosity - what are the uniform colours / heraldry for Sylvania? Anybody any idea? I've found only one reference so far saying that the colours are black / purple / red - is this correct?

Gargobot
08-08-2009, 18:09
I am interested. how did others here reach their decision on which Province/state to choose?
I wanted to do Averland, but I couldn't get the yellow like I wanted it, so I settled for the scheme I had the colors for; after the BfSP NGs I had loads of green and red, so I went with Hochland. One regiment later I was in love with the color scheme, still am. :)

The colours were the most important factor for me (Blau und Weiß, wie lieb ich dich...), only after that had determined my choice I took a look at the fluff, which turned out to be to my taste as well. And the Ulricans have some sweet minis as well.

Glad you brought that up, as I am in need of a bit of advice on how to set the two armies apart a bit since they both share the same colours.
So so, Schalke also.

Err, isn't Middenheim (dark) blue and light blue, and Middenland blue and white. So take black as an accessory color for Middenheim and even more white for Middenland? Dunno if this works, but it made sense in my head. :wtf:


@Gargobot - Sleeves are looking great!

P.S. Just out of curiosity - what are the uniform colours / heraldry for Sylvania? Anybody any idea? I've found only one reference so far saying that the colours are black / purple / red - is this correct?
Thx mate!
Colors are like that, at least until they change the fluff again.
(It's not over yet Stirland, we will get our state banner back!)
*cough* Looks good in the Heraldry book.

Lt Dougheim
09-08-2009, 22:42
P.S. Just out of curiosity - what are the uniform colours / heraldry for Sylvania? Anybody any idea? I've found only one reference so far saying that the colours are black / purple / red - is this correct?

A few years back they ran a series of "fluff" articles in White Dwarf. Anyway one of the articles was about Sylvania. It had lots of info and some pictures of what they looked like prior to the arrival of the Carsteins. If i get a chance I try to track which White Dwarf it was.

EmperorNorton
11-08-2009, 16:38
According to Warhammer-Empire (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/guide/stirland.php):

Many years ago, Sylvania had its own armies, uniformed in red, purple and black, but today it can barely provide a peasant militia.

it's coming this way!
11-08-2009, 18:47
A really weary, ragtag Sylvanian army (or unit in a greater Stirland army) would be sort of cool to see. Torn clothing, broken spears and stuff like that.

Though maybe that's more in my head than anything else. Still no progress on my front, though everything's largely assembled, should be progress soon, and hopefully I can work out my camera situation.

First up will be my battery of cannons, which I'm looking to have on a diorama-style base that I can remove the crew members from- does anybody have any tips on building these?

voiceofthewarp
11-08-2009, 19:53
Joining in with 2000 pts of Averlanders (ontop of my 2000 pts of Night Goblins, should be, fun) with a Morr-ian influence, eg Knights of the Black rose and Warrior Priest of Morr. Might have to Joker the first month, but the first unit I do will be some swordsmen..

-voiceofthewarp

DaCone2
13-08-2009, 19:44
Hallo there. It's strange to see how many people who's work i've recognised from other sites!
I'm joining in with empire.
Do we post progress in this thread or is it just nattering?

First stuff i want to do: ( not in one month )
Warrior Priest
10 Swordsmen
Full Command
10 Spearmen
Full Command
5 Handgunners

Arduhn
13-08-2009, 19:45
Post whatever you want here, progress needs to be posted in the other thread, but it can also be posted here if you like.

Good to see a fellow Averlander here voice. :)

Calibretto
13-08-2009, 21:01
Thought id throw my hat in the ring for 1000 pts. I dont have a big back story or province in mind, i just starting painting them the colors i like. Looking through the book though my colors sort of look like the Stirland (?) River Patrol, green and white (though my white is more cream). I look forward to actually getting some stuff painted and seeing everyone elses work.

Fabius Bile
13-08-2009, 21:24
Hi everyone, I'm new to posting on Warseer, although I have been lurking for a while. I read this thread earlier today, and as I have just started an Empire army, I decided to jump in and actually post something. I am also doing an Averland themed army, with a large Knights Panther contingent including the grand master.

So far I have acquired an Empire Batallion Box (older style - better value for money and you get 12 knights!), new battle wizards box, new general box, new handgunners box, Engineer with repeater rifle, new Helblaster Volley Gun, New Steam Tank (yes, price wise it is a rip off, but I couldn't resist!), New Marius Leitdorf and the old style state troops box (20 figs). Most of it is built and primed, and I am currently painting the Grand Master and 10 handgunners. As a unique bit of background fluff for my Knights Panther, all their fur pelts and big cat armour motifs will be tigers rather than leopards etc.

Rhaivaen
13-08-2009, 23:44
I am also interested in joining this log, BUT... i am a very slow painter, so might not be able to keep up.

Gargobot
14-08-2009, 00:08
Well, a warm welcome to all the new Empire painters!

@ Fabius Bile & Rhaivaen: Although it's not required it's strongly recommended that you sign up in the main thread of the ToFP (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212672) as well.
If you feel you're not up to painting a fixed limit every month, it's of course alright to tag along and show us the occasional pic of your work to brighten our lives (:)).

I am also interested in joining this log, BUT... i am a very slow painter, so might not be able to keep up.
No worries, just sign up. If you can't keep up you drop out, but 'til then you may already have painted... let's say 3 months, that's 600 pts of your army painted, so you did achieve something.
Personally I feel I wouldn't be up to painting that much in such a short time myself, but I'm counting on the group support (and peer pressure ;)).
So just join and see where (and with how many points) you end up.
That's the whole point of the ToFP, at least how I see it.

Harry
14-08-2009, 03:29
Yup ... that is exactly the point.
Sometimes getting stuff painted just becomes addictive and you keep going and get a whole bunch of stuff painted. Sometimes you get half way through and run out of steam but even then it is better to have tried and failed as you still end up with a whole bunch of stuff painted that you wouldn't have if you had never tried at all.

Also you can enter at the 'boys' level and need only paint 100 points this year ... which is very doable each month ... even for Empire.

My first months painting for the Empire is nearly done. Finishing touches and bases to go.

voiceofthewarp
14-08-2009, 19:13
I was bored..
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f106/Plushie100/Artsy%20stuffe/averlandcolour.jpg

Not done any modelling yet though..

-voiceofthewarp

Gargobot
14-08-2009, 19:24
Your boredom looks quite impressive.
Is there any chance you'll tell a story to your army via comic? Would certainly be sweet.

it's coming this way!
15-08-2009, 03:20
Dear Heavens man, I wish I got bored like you.

Calibretto
18-08-2009, 18:23
A tentative list (1000 pts):

Captain-Barded Warsteed, Lance, Full plate, as of yet undecided magic item
20 Empire Swordsmen-FC
10 Handgunners-Mus, Champ, Hochland Long Rifle
5 Knights-FC
1 Cannon
1 Hellblaster
10 Greatswords-FC
1 Battle Wizard-2nd lvl

That might be short (dont have my book on me), if it is ill add some greatswords.

Ive got my first entry almost completed, the 10 handgunners above. Just need to finish up a few heads.

Gargobot
19-08-2009, 02:51
I took the liberty to calculate the list. 921 pts; 923 if that Captain has a shield too. So if you either add some magic items, or some greatswords (or both) you're good to go.
Looking forward to see your minis. :)

EmperorNorton
19-08-2009, 12:39
What are you doing up at 5 in the morning?
(Aside from calculating Empire army lists, of course...)

it's coming this way!
19-08-2009, 14:27
How's everybody doing on their painting? The deadline's looming and the posts aren't coming in all that fast at this point

Calibretto
19-08-2009, 14:50
Thanks for checking my math Gargobot, i thought that sounded short. Ill have to take a look at the magic items and see if my Captain and Wizard need some magic baubles. Otherwise its more greatswords (who are pretty sweet little models-the ones right before this latest plastic release).

As far as painting im doing pretty well, i just never remember to take WIP pics. My Handgunners are almost finished, just need to add a few heads, flock the movement tray, and hit them with some dullcoat. Ill try to remember to take pics tonight.

Gargobot
19-08-2009, 15:07
What are you doing up at 5 in the morning?
(Aside from calculating Empire army lists, of course...)
Well during semester break my sleeping rhythm is usually thrown of track.
This night in particular I was finishing a term paper and painting my August entry, which I just finished. Here are the warmachines, I already got the pics of everything but I think I'll wait for the ToFP Month 1 thread to post them.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/gargobot/IMG_1211.jpg
And the two engaged in passionate love:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/gargobot/IMG_1220.jpg


How's everybody doing on their painting? The deadline's looming and the posts aren't coming in all that fast at this point
Done! :D (Well I chose to do a very puny first months entry)


Thanks for checking my math Gargobot, i thought that sounded short. Ill have to take a look at the magic items and see if my Captain and Wizard need some magic baubles. Otherwise its more greatswords (who are pretty sweet little models-the ones right before this latest plastic release).
No problem, I was up late anyway and waiting for the wash to dry. :)
Looking forward to the pics tonight, so don't forget to take them. ;)


Edit: Oh and check out the lovely Averland troops of Dakkapantz in the main tread: Link (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212672&page=18)

voiceofthewarp
19-08-2009, 15:21
Think that, as I said, I'll need to joker this month :( Just not enough time with trying to get my O&G entry done too and golden deamon looming and commisions. Next month, I promise, unless there's a miracle this month or something.

-voiceofthewarp

Calibretto
19-08-2009, 15:21
Nice warmachines but the crew looks sharp.

Also, you people doing more than one army are crazy. Good crazy but still crazy, i could barely get one army done.

Fabius Bile
19-08-2009, 15:26
How's everybody doing on their painting? The deadline's looming and the posts aren't coming in all that fast at this point

My Grand Master of the Knights Panther is looking great, as are my handgunners. I am having one or slight problems with the banner for the handgunners, ie getting the two sides of the banner to match up. Of course, the ripples and undulations of the fabric distort the pattern on the banner, but I am a perfectionist, and will not be happy with it until both sides match up.

Deakor
19-08-2009, 20:53
Hopefully it's not too late to get into the Empire Support group. =) I just signed up for the Tale at 2000 points. We'll see how that goes.

As things stand right now I'm going to focus on an Ostland themed-army.

Currently built and primed are:

1x Mounted Captain/General
1x Warrior Priest
20x Spearmen
10x Halbrediers (detachment for spears)
10x Crossbowmen (detachment for spears)
8x Knights (likely to be KoTBS)
5x Pistoliers
20x Flagellants

Still to build:

1x Wizard
1x Mounted Warrior Priest
1x BSB
1x Hellblaster Volley Gun
1x Steam Tank
20x Greatswords
20x Handgunners

Since I'm getting started late in the month I may have to paint a character or two to get my 200 points done. I've got five of the halbrediers mostly done (just need some detailing and washing).

I haven't really put together a real list yet and plan on just painting what strikes me as cool at any given moment. I'll most likely alternate between rank/file units and more interesting things to keep myself going.

Thanks for reading!

Lt Dougheim
20-08-2009, 00:44
Here are my two steam tanks for my cheese monger list.:cheese: I just have to free hand some details on the one. I still trying to figure out how to put the name on it. Im going to call it Recipe for Disaster.

Gargobot I really like the warmachines. Cant wait to see the crew.:)

Gargobot
20-08-2009, 01:34
Lt Dougheim, your stanks look sweet. What's the name of Lil' Lith's companion?

So I just went through our lovely little group thread and made a quick recount of all the participants (Lord Dan it would be nice if you'd copy/paste this to the OP as well):

Painter / Province / Points

Arduhn / Averland / 2000
BeatTheBeat / Nordland / 2000
Calibretto / Stirland River Patrol / 1000
Conquest Miniatures / Stirland / 2000
DaCone2 / own color scheme / 2000
Dakkapantz / Averland DoW / 2000
Dark Apostle / Wissenland / 2000
Deakor / Ostland / 2000
Deusmex /Ostermark / 1000
Dr Death / Hochland / 2000
Dry_Erase / Nordland / 2000
Ego Ninja / Reikland / 1000
EmperorNorton / Middenheim & Middenland / 4000
Fabius Bile / Averland / 2000
Gargobot / Hochland / 2000
Grhino / Hochland / 2000
Grimtide / Stirland / 2000
Harry / Reiksguard / 1000
Harvey / Talabheim / 2000
it's coming this way! / Ostland / 2000
Jim / Hochland / 2000
Kaine / Nuln / 1000
Lord Dan / All / 2000
Lt Dougheim / The Moot / 2000
Matrim_Cauthon / Nordland / 2000
MindTheGap / Middenheim / 2000
The hair / mixed / 2000
ThothAmarth / Altdorf / 2000
voiceofthewarp / Averland / 2000

Please correct me if I got anything wrong!

Dakkapantz
20-08-2009, 05:59
Hey all,

I am doing an Averlander mercenary army(using as DOW), and was wondering if I could join you guys on this thread, as it is nice to have a smaller group for support/ideas. As there is only one other DOW painter in TOFP, I don't think there will be much chance of a support group forming:)

Cheers,

Peyton

EmperorNorton
20-08-2009, 06:00
Thanks for using your insomnia constructively, Gargobot.
I have boldened the ones that have posted on the month 1 working thread already.

Arduhn / Averland / 2000
BeatTheBeat / Nordland / 2000
Calibretto / Stirland River Patrol / 1000
Conquest Miniatures / Stirland / 2000
DaCone2 / own color scheme / 2000
Dark Apostle / Wissenland / 2000
Deakor / Ostland / 2000
Deusmex /Ostermark / 1000
Dr Death / Hochland / 2000
Dry_Erase / Nordland / 2000
Ego Ninja / Reikland / 1000
EmperorNorton / Middenheim & Middenland / 4000
Fabius Bile / Averland / 2000
Gargobot / Hochland / 2000
Grhino / Hochland / 2000
Grimtide / Stirland / 2000
Harry / Reiksguard / 1000
Harvey / Talabheim / 2000
it's coming this way! / Ostland / 2000
Jim / Hochland / 2000
Kaine / Nuln / 1000
Lord Dan / All / 2000
Lt Dougheim / The Moot / 2000
Matrim_Cauthon / Nordland / 2000
MindTheGap / Middenheim / 2000
The hair / mixed / 2000
ThothAmarth / Altdorf / 2000
voiceofthewarp / Averland / 2000

While some who haven't posted over there have been active here, there are quite a few people AWOL.
Don't foget about us, guys!

Calibretto
20-08-2009, 06:05
These pictures are crap but they show the idea off at least, im going to try a different backdrop on the next ones. These just wash all my highlights out.

The first five
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Andal/warhammer005.jpg

Second five
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Andal/warhammer001.jpg

A couple other shots
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Andal/warhammer002.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Andal/warhammer004.jpg

If these pics are too big just let me know.

Dry_Erase
20-08-2009, 08:21
While some who haven't posted over there have been active here, there are quite a few people AWOL.
Don't foget about us, guys!

I haven't! I'm just finishing the bases and banner for a unit of halberdiers with a Captain of the Empire (the practically destitute Baron von Allingen). They're the Neues Emskrank garrison and (for peculiar historical reasons) wear blue and green rather than the traditional blue and yellow of Nordland.

I'll finish the bases and banner and put up a photo tonight. Is it best to post on here or the main TOFP thread, do you think?

EmperorNorton
20-08-2009, 09:41
I haven't! I'm just finishing the bases and banner for a unit of halberdiers with a Captain of the Empire (the practically destitute Baron von Allingen). They're the Neues Emskrank garrison and (for peculiar historical reasons) wear blue and green rather than the traditional blue and yellow of Nordland.

I'll finish the bases and banner and put up a photo tonight. Is it best to post on here or the main TOFP thread, do you think?

For now you're only supposed to show some pictures of your work in progress (if you want to, that is).
When your unit is finished you should hold off posting your pictures until the beginning of next month, when Harry will post the Tale of Fantasy Painters Month 2 thread, where every participant should post their first finished entires.
If you want some comments or advice now you can post a picture here.

BeatTheBeat
20-08-2009, 11:35
Just passing by to say hello again and assure everyone that I'm still in ;) I've got a helstorm + 1 crew along with 6 free company finished, and a wizard very close to done. I'll try to post some pics tonight if I have the time :)

MindTheGap
20-08-2009, 19:05
Hi Guys n' Gals!

I've not forgotten about everybody - just been a tad ill :( Anyhoo, I'm well on the road to recovery and I'm just finishing off 10 Huntsmen and wading through 10 Handunners with Marksmann/ Repeating Rifle, so things are plodding along. I've let my parents borrow my camera while they're on holiday, but I should be able to whip up another camera from somewhere to post a WIP of the mentioned models for your c&c, hopefully tomorrow.

Hows everyone else doing? Hope it's all going well!

Deusmex
20-08-2009, 20:04
Well my plan to basecoat white has gone out the window and Im back to black.

Not that the white isnt good its just not me really.

Did these with white base coat all very much wip .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/Blood%20Ravens/Empire/DSCF2655light-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/Blood%20Ravens/Empire/DSCF2656light-1.jpg

And tbh theyre ok but a lot of work and I think the bottoms pics, with the black undercoat are a bit better result for what I want, and quicker to paint. Which is always a bonus.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/Blood%20Ravens/Empire/DSCF2657light-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Deusmex/Blood%20Ravens/Empire/DSCF2658light-1.jpg

Having said that Im open to opinions, as long as you realise theyre getting done black.

Dry_Erase
20-08-2009, 23:07
For now you're only supposed to show some pictures of your work in progress (if you want to, that is).

And here we are. These are a small selection of the (badly photographed) halberdiers. You can see the work-in-progress banner with the scratch built ship banner top on the standard bearer, as well as some of the other troops. I need to paint the edges of the bases and finish and attach the banner and then they're done.

The metals look worse here than they really are and some of the highlights look flatter. I blame the kitchen lights!

Gargobot
20-08-2009, 23:47
Calibretto: I think I can stop writing Stirland River Patrol in italics now. They look pretty much the deal. Keep it up!

Deusmex: I think both methods look good. And I love the striped trousers on the black undercoated one.

Dry_Erase: Great halberdiers, and the freehand banner rocks! Where'd you get the shield emblem?
Gotta say these guys have a nice maritime feeling to them, well done.

it's coming this way!
21-08-2009, 01:39
Alright guys, life's been a little crazy with fire recruit school as of late, but I promise I'll get a start on my battery of cannons as soon as the humidity lessens up, and I can prime them!

On that note, great to see everybody getting their stuff done!

Dry_Erase
21-08-2009, 08:23
Dry_Erase: Great halberdiers, and the freehand banner rocks! Where'd you get the shield emblem?
Gotta say these guys have a nice maritime feeling to them, well done.

Thanks! The shield emblem was sliced from a 5th edition Lizardman shield that I had lying around. My next unit is going to be swordsmen with a similarly nautical theme - ships' wheels on the shields etc.

Gargobot
21-08-2009, 11:01
Thanks! The shield emblem was sliced from a 5th edition Lizardman shield that I had lying around. My next unit is going to be swordsmen with a similarly nautical theme - ships' wheels on the shields etc.


Please ignore this text, it is required to write a minimum of ten words. But what I really want to say can be conveyed like this:

:)

Lord Dan
21-08-2009, 18:00
Thanks for the updated list, Gargo. I've put it up front.

Dry Erase, I need to be honest. That is the coolest standard I have ever seen in my 8 years of miniature wargaming.

Dakkapantz
21-08-2009, 22:00
Here's what I have done/PIP:

test pikeman:
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Shipmanp_photos/IMG_0238.jpg
5 Halfling fighting cocks:
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Shipmanp_photos/IMG_0255.jpg
5 PIP(touchup and bases) fighting cocks(trying out the whole "blue background" thing here:
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Shipmanp_photos/IMG_0577.jpg
And 4 Duellists PIP(need to finish red and bases)
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Shipmanp_photos/IMG_0586.jpg



Cheers

Peyton

dwarfhold13
22-08-2009, 00:51
sorry to chime in.. but you guys are rockin in this here land of empire... LOVE the averland theme.. inspiring me to go paint up some of the 50 something halflings i have at home..
what colors are you using for the yellow?

Gargobot
22-08-2009, 06:29
Yup, your Averlanders (and Halflings) look great. Some of these Duelists have great poses, good use of the Hunter box.
Like dwarfhold13 I'm also interested how you did your lovely yellow?

Dakkapantz
22-08-2009, 09:15
Thanks guys,

The yellow is really simple. I used Iyundan Darksun, gave it a heavy wash of gryphon sephia, and then paint Iyundan Darksun over that, leaving the sephia visible in the cracks and shaded areas. Then just progressive highlights of Iyundan and deneb stone.

Cheers

Peyton

Dry_Erase
22-08-2009, 11:07
Thanks for the updated list, Gargo. I've put it up front.

Dry Erase, I need to be honest. That is the coolest standard I have ever seen in my 8 years of miniature wargaming.

Wahey! Thanks for that. It still needs to be finished, but that sort of comment spurs me on.

Dakkapantz, I really like those Averlanders - fantastically subdued tones. What did you use for the yellow? I'd really like the same shade on my Nordlanders.

Lt Dougheim
22-08-2009, 15:43
Dakkapantz I really like your averland scheme. Your halflings are outstanding! I just wish gw made some new ones.:cries:

Grimtide
22-08-2009, 16:25
Hey,

Just finished my first Knight of the Order of Morrs Wings. Four more to go and quite happy with how they're turning out. 10 Handgunners painted as well so en-route for 200pt's painted :)

MindTheGap
22-08-2009, 17:42
Hi!

Managed to nick a camera for a while, so thought I'd pop some some *very* WIP pics up for some feedback from the group. As I've said, they're VERY much a WIP - Nurgle blessed me with the flu so I've found I'm much more behind than I thought I was a few days ago... lots of stuff trimmed and built, but not much painting done. Let me know what improvements you think can be made :)

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/MindTheGaps/Middenheim%20Army/Huntsmen003.jpg

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/MindTheGaps/Middenheim%20Army/Huntsmen001.jpg

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/MindTheGaps/Middenheim%20Army/Huntsmen002.jpg

Thanks Guys!

EmperorNorton
22-08-2009, 18:29
Looking good already.
I tried painting some white sleeves myself today. Now I'm ready to ditch Middenheim and go all Middenland to get around having to paint white at all.

MindTheGap
22-08-2009, 18:42
Why do you think I was asking about Sylvanian colours lol The white is a pain, but I'm now adamant I'm going to stick to Middenheim and see it through to the bitter end. White and all. *sighs* I suppose I can only get better at it the more I paint, eh?!

BTW - I think I've gotten the colours the wrong way around for the blue / white - can anybody confirm if I have, or whether it really matters that much?

EmperorNorton
22-08-2009, 19:20
Why do you think I was asking about Sylvanian colours lol The white is a pain, but I'm now adamant I'm going to stick to Middenheim and see it through to the bitter end. White and all. *sighs* I suppose I can only get better at it the more I paint, eh?!
Hopefully.
In my attempts so far the white was either too dry and chalky or too runny and went all over the place.
Tomorrow I'll try using a wet palette for the first time, maybe that'll help getting it right.



BTW - I think I've gotten the colours the wrong way around for the blue / white - can anybody confirm if I have, or whether it really matters that much?
Not sure I understand what you mean.

MindTheGap
22-08-2009, 19:43
As in should the blue be on the left leg and the white on the right leg or the other way around? Or does it not matter which way around the colours are so long as it's blue and white?

Wet pallettes are brilliant - I can personally recommend using a tiny bit of acrylic retarder / flow improver with the white - seems to help the white pigments stay together a little better while it's being applied to the model.

EmperorNorton
22-08-2009, 19:58
As in should the blue be on the left leg and the white on the right leg or the other way around? Or does it not matter which way around the colours are so long as it's blue and white?
Short answer: Doesn't matter.
Long answer: According to the heraldry book different regiments use different combinations of the main colours, so you can diversify whichever way you like.


Wet pallettes are brilliant - I can personally recommend using a tiny bit of acrylic retarder / flow improver with the white - seems to help the white pigments stay together a little better while it's being applied to the model.
I use Vallejo glaze medium. Not sure if it's the same thing.
Didn't help me much with my attempt today, though, but the weather may be to blame for that, as it's hot and dry.

MindTheGap
22-08-2009, 20:06
Thanks for that - appreciated!

I'm slowly switching over to Vallejo paints, not used the glaze medium yet, so unfortunately I can't say if it's the same stuff. Good luck with the wet pallette, though - let us know how you get on with it.

Gargobot
23-08-2009, 01:06
Grimtide: The lacquered armor looks nice, did you just paint varnish over the black, or did you highlight it before that? I'm thinking about trying lacquered armor for my characters, but the GW tutorial on their website is not a great help.
Oh, and nice shield! Is that a freehand?

MindTheGap: Archers are looking great so far, nice white. :)

BeatTheBeat
23-08-2009, 11:36
I've finally managed (or taken time to) take some pics of my happy swedes. I've got a helsturm/helblaster done as well, but I'm saving that for month 2. Here are some almost complete (some wood details left to do) Free Company:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7199/leijonhufvudsarm1.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6557/leijonhufvudsarm2.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9227/leijonhufvudsarm3.jpg

Hope you like them! I'm doing white undercoat and bright, clean colours for a change, no weathering or stuff like on my Guard. I really have to force myself to not "dirty stuff down" though :)

edit: Updated painting schedule!

August, 210 pts:
Wizard
12 Free Company with full command

September, 200 pts:
Helsturm Rocket Battery 115 pts
6 Free Company 30 pts
5 Halberdiers with full command 55 pts

October, 220 pts:
10 Halberdiers
6 Free Company
Great Cannon
5 Handgunners

November, 228 pts:
10 Halberdiers
Captain
Battle Standard Bearer

December, 120 pts:
5 Pistoliers 90 pts
6 Free Company 30 pts

Which completes everything I've bought, and ends up at 983 pts. Then it's christmas time and I'll go buy and plan the next 1000 pts!

EmperorNorton
23-08-2009, 17:50
Good luck with the wet pallette, though - let us know how you get on with it.
The wet palette helped a bit, but the result still looks bad.
I tried to take some pictures, but you couldn't see anything in them as it just looked like a bright spot of white without any highlights at all.
I have identified one problem, though. One of the paints I was using didn't work with the others.
The basecoat was done in Dheneb Stone, followed by Stonewall Grey (Vallejo), then a mix of Stonewall Grey and Off White (again from Vallejo), then pure Off White and finally extreme highlights in Skull White. Problem is that the Off White has a tinge of yellow to it, which doesn't work with the grey and gives everything a dirty look.
Another problem is, of course, that layering like that takes me forever, somewhere in the area of 1 hour per figure, although only their sleeves are white. Either I'll have to find another, quicker way - hopefully with better looking results as well - or I'll have to keep the white to a minimum.

Arduhn
23-08-2009, 19:09
Just switch to dheneb stone basecoat, then a mix of skull white and dheneb, then pure skull white on the edges. I haven't tried that out yet, but I imagine it would work.

EmperorNorton
23-08-2009, 19:19
Yep, I'll try that.
I just have to get something finished soon. Nothing for my three armies is done yet and somehow time is flying...

Dakkapantz
23-08-2009, 20:51
It does that sometimes doesn't it?:D You guys doing more than one army are crazy! I still haven't finished my 200 points, though I was away in England for 3 weeks, so I guess I have an excuse:rolleyes: Need to finish the duellists up this week.

Cheers

Peyton

Grimtide
23-08-2009, 23:56
Gargobot: Thanks I was happy with how he turned out. The armor was based in Chaos Black and then I layered on Badab Black. Then picked out the raised area's in Dwarf Bronze and then layered on Badab Black again. The design on the shield is a transfer (Space Marine) retouched with with Dwarf Bronze and
Chaos Black. A happy find as the design was what I was looking for and my freehand is lousy : P

Arduhn
24-08-2009, 06:18
Yep, I'll try that.
I just have to get something finished soon. Nothing for my three armies is done yet and somehow time is flying...

I know the feeling, except I only have one army to paint for. :eyebrows:

Anyway, my attention has been divided by trying (successfully) to sell my car, and (unsuccessfully as of yet) to sell my dad's cargo/camper van so that I could raise money for a downpayment on a brand new 2009 VW Rabbit (Golf to you Europeans). I pick it up tomorrow! :D Anyways, I'll get back to painting after tomorrow.

I will post a picture up tonight though of one of my wip guys.

Great stuff from all you people diligently painting your stuff, and quite nicely I might add. Keep at it, all of you! :)

Edit: Some pictures.
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9382/knight004h.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1917/knight005.jpg

Dakkapantz
24-08-2009, 11:50
That guy is awesome! What model is that? Are you using him as a hero or unit champion or what?:confused::confused: Really cool. What else do you have to paint left by the way? I don't think I asked enough questions:p

Cheers

Peyton

Gargobot
24-08-2009, 14:29
BeatTheBeat: I don't know much about Sweden but these look nice. I like the pattern on the one guy with the red coat. :)

EmperorNorton: I don't own Dheneb Stone, so I paint white differently. Codex Grey first, then Fortress Grey and than one or two layers of Skull White.
You can see it on Leonardo: Linky Link (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3875768&postcount=199)
And what is a wet pallete?

Arduhn: Looks sweet so far, is the sash finished? Because I think the very good looking golden armor would pop more if the sash would be a little brighter.

Keep it up, Painters of the Empire!

Krzyek
24-08-2009, 15:08
Four finished, 16 to go (+ 3 for the FCG)
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/Krzyek/TGR.jpg

FCG
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/Krzyek/TGCG.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/Krzyek/TGCG2.jpg

Test guardsman
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/Krzyek/TGG.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/Krzyek/TGG2.jpg

MindTheGap
24-08-2009, 16:16
@Gargobot - Thanks :) Although I have decided that the white is *almost* as much of a pain to paint as the yellow on the Imperial Fists.... who are safely locked away out of my sight at the moment!

BTW - a wet pallette is just that - a deep pallette / container that has a soaked sponge covered by two types of paper - it's always moist to help slow down the paint drying out on the pallette. I can't recommend them enough - I made my own and just buy the papers from a local craft store - I've had some paints on mine for days and they're still good to go when you need them! PM me if you want any more info.

@BeatTheBeat - Looking good! Loving the detailing on the back of the red side of the jacket!

@EmperorNorton - I must admit, I've been using greys to build up the white - Codex > Fortress > White. Arduhn's method of the Dheneb Stone sounds good, though - I may have to give that a try. You've got my full sympathy with the time it takes to paint up the white, mate!

@Arduhn - Great news on the car - I've always loved VW Golfs... and ended up with a Mini Cooper :wtf: Anyhoo - great fig thats superbly painted - looking great!

@Krzyek - Teutogen Guard.... :cries: I've only got the command group at the moment, so I'm on the lookout for the r&f figs on E(vil)Bay. Jealousy aside - they're looking fantastic, epsecially the banner - beautiful crisp colours. Great work!

The first month is nearly upon us - keep going fellow Empire painters!

Harvey
25-08-2009, 15:26
Hi all, sorry for the huge delay in posting - I moved out, sold the old house and bought a new one. This short sentence can in no way describe the pain and stress involved; let's just say I'm never doing it again.

The good news is that the forces of Talabheim are mustering as we speak. I got everything put together and sprayed before the move, and I've painted some test schemes on my artillery crew, one of which I'm pretty happy with. Now I just have to find out which box I packed them in...

I don't have a phone line or internet access connected yet, so updates will be sporadic for the next couple of weeks as and when I can get to a computer.

Well done everyone on the work so far - it's all looking very exciting. In particular Lt Dougheim - your Mootsguard look fantastic, I can't wait to see them painted and Gargobot, love the great cannon and hellblaster - I'm doing something similar but a little different myself.

Good painting everyone!

Fabius Bile
26-08-2009, 17:18
[B]Good lord! Is it that time of the month already? Here are my efforts for this month, my first ever miniatures posted on Warseer!

Here we have my first Lord choice, the Grand Master of the Knights Panther:
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/MotorheadMadman/P8260001.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/MotorheadMadman/P8260003.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/MotorheadMadman/P8260005.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/MotorheadMadman/P8260007.jpg

Fabius Bile
26-08-2009, 17:26
continued from previous post.

Here is a unit of Averland Handgunners. The sharp eyed amongst you will notice I have two marksman weapons in the unit, which is illegal. I built the figures before I bought the Empire book, but not to worry - I have another unit of handgunners to build, so I will swap the repeater rifle out for a handgunner later.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/MotorheadMadman/P8260009.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/MotorheadMadman/P8260011.jpg