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nedius
17-12-2009, 08:05
Hey all,

AS I'm sure followers of the CRasterImage's tile set, and the users of the fan produced versions of tiles from old expansions for the game are aware, the PDFs of them keep going walkies, or at least the threads directing them to them do!

I'm assuming that this is because these tiles modify 'images' that are copyright GW. There's a few bits on their legal page that would imply you can't do such things.

However, there's nothing stopping us from generating tiles that don't use any of the images taken from the Space Hulk board, and creating out own tiles from (more or less) scratch. There's plenty of free textures out there on the next that could be used, and probably some people with the digital imagry skills to make their own.

Essentially, I'd like a set of expansion tiles that we don't have to worry GW will hunt us down for sharing.

So, how could we do it?


This website, for example, has lots of textures we could use... (http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4392.html)

grissom2006
17-12-2009, 13:08
By getting good at using gimp or photoshop and showing your own imagination that GW can't dispute as taking their IP or copyright.

nedius
17-12-2009, 16:26
Ok, so we need to find people good enough to do it! I can do some basic cut and pasting, but that's about it. Wouldn't know how to put on all those extra details that you get on the edge of the board, where the walls are.

EDIT:

So, community, do we want to try and start generating non-copyright breeching expansion tiles? I have a website we could host them at, and can have a go at some myself (which I will do as I get the chance!)?

Is anyone here willing to have a go with me?

HaunterV
19-12-2009, 04:55
what about pasting the prints to bristolboard

nedius
19-12-2009, 08:58
What I mean is generate new images for sticking onto tiles.

For example, of set of tiles was a massive, 3 square wide corridor, including x-roads, corners etc. It was made by taking images from the GW space work tiles and photoshopping them together to make a new one.

However, doing it this way breeches GW copyright, and they all get taken down sooner or later.

What I'm suggesting is that we make some that don't breech GW copyright by using free to download textures, or some other method, but would still look ok when used in conjunction with the Space Hulk board.

My question was A) how do we do it? And B) Who wants to give it a go?

HaunterV
20-12-2009, 01:38
What I mean is generate new images for sticking onto tiles.

For example, of set of tiles was a massive, 3 square wide corridor, including x-roads, corners etc. It was made by taking images from the GW space work tiles and photoshopping them together to make a new one.

However, doing it this way breeches GW copyright, and they all get taken down sooner or later.

What I'm suggesting is that we make some that don't breech GW copyright by using free to download textures, or some other method, but would still look ok when used in conjunction with the Space Hulk board.

My question was A) how do we do it? And B) Who wants to give it a go?


You mean to put the new images over the old tiles? hrmm.... There are peel and stick options kind of like the vinyl things you can put on windows.

Personally I'm going to be buying molds from here (http://www.hirstarts.com/molds/moldssci.html) it's a lot simpler imo and the molds pay for themselves pretty quickly.

nedius
20-12-2009, 22:13
You mean to put the new images over the old tiles? hrmm.... There are peel and stick options kind of like the vinyl things you can put on windows.

Personally I'm going to be buying molds from here (http://www.hirstarts.com/molds/moldssci.html) it's a lot simpler imo and the molds pay for themselves pretty quickly.

No, I still mean that we stick the new tiles to some thick card, foamcore or something.

We need some tiles that we can publish that GW won't shut down. I'll do a VERY basic one in the next day or so, and show you what I mean.

HaunterV
21-12-2009, 09:44
No, I still mean that we stick the new tiles to some thick card, foamcore or something.

We need some tiles that we can publish that GW won't shut down. I'll do a VERY basic one in the next day or so, and show you what I mean.


I get what you mean. I just wonder what would be good to use as a medium... since the stuff they use is pretty nice. That Debossing they use it pretty sweet too, I'd be nice to come up with some sort of techniquie to replicate it.

nedius
21-12-2009, 16:25
Ok, here's a VERY simplistic example. I fully recognise that it is in no way good enough for what we actually want - it's only advantage is that it uses freely available textures and as such GW probably can't complain about it...

http://nedius.webs.com/T_intersection_3wide_A2.jpg

However, this is really what we should consider the bare minimum. What we need to do is find people capable of making things much better than this and getting them to remake all the expansion tiles in non-copyright breeching formats...

Destructorn
22-12-2009, 03:42
So, regarding the Hirst molds, you take the Starship deck mold and the starship wall mold and essentially keep producing tiles until you have enough to map out every Space Hulk tile?

That actually sounds really cool, I might look into that- does anyone have any photos of this in effect?

nedius
22-12-2009, 10:22
There's a fair few if you search around. I'm using the Cities of Death tiles to create my 3D board, and it looks great - but it takes up a huge amount of room. The board is almost twice the size of the card tile sections. This makes it tricky to have larger games...

So, anyone got any ideas about better board sections than the one I did?

HaunterV
22-12-2009, 18:44
So, regarding the Hirst molds, you take the Starship deck mold and the starship wall mold and essentially keep producing tiles until you have enough to map out every Space Hulk tile?

That actually sounds really cool, I might look into that- does anyone have any photos of this in effect?

I beleive there are a few youtube videos showing it off.

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ6AY6i-0Vw)

Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUPu55Ugbww)

Znail
23-12-2009, 08:27
The Hirst Arts page has alot of pictures and tutorials. The terrain building and painting tips are top notch. You can also find alot of user posted pictures on the forum of what people have made. But if you want just some SH specific results so can you for instance check out this page:

http://www.vitruvianzeke.com/ProjectHulk/ProjectHulk.html