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Sons of Blight
21-01-2010, 15:09
I've been playing a bunch of 1999 point games and Im pretty sure I like this point level the best - anyone agree - disagree?

Lord Malorne
21-01-2010, 15:17
No, just play 2000 and and keep the less than 2000 limits.

Radium
21-01-2010, 15:23
I disagree, I like my lord choices. A LOT. But there are a couple of players around here that agree with you.

Razakel
21-01-2010, 15:23
I enjoy playing 1,500 and 2,000 Point games. I like either being a bit below 2k or just over it, otherwise I get this weird feeling that I should have a Lord choice in an army this size. Its an interesting way to see how armies perform in big games without a Lord choice, I can't say if I'd like it or not since I've honestly never tried it, its certainly interesting.

Crube
21-01-2010, 15:27
I don't dislike it, for a change, but I do like a lord in a 2K game. They are characterful, and give you a dilemma when picking your army - do you go for the Lord, and less troops, or do you go for a Hero, and have more (or different) bodies in the bulk of the army...

If you dont like the Lord choice, don't take one. Most armies can still be reasonably competitive without a Lord. At 2250 points, with no Lord, that's almost another unit and a half depending on what army you play...

Nuada
21-01-2010, 15:33
It's something i've never tried, but will do now.

I used to hate anything below 3.5k battles. It felt like too much of a skirmish/scouting game, and not a proper battle.
But i have changed my opinion now, mainly due to the amount of time the bigger battles take. I've been enjoying the 2k games, and both myself and my opponent prefer a game without many characters (no magic, no magic items games are our favourite) I shall suggest the 1,999 game to him :)

UberBeast
21-01-2010, 15:39
I prefer larger battles myself, though I've recently been having fun at the 500-1000pt level. Lord characters give the game the epic hero feel that makes warhammer fantasy stand out from historical games.

Lord Malorne
21-01-2010, 15:41
Likewise, our club is starting a 500 border patrol cmapaign, the army composition at those points leads to a lot of diversity from player to player and some nice match ups.

Warlord Ghazak Gazhkull
21-01-2010, 15:45
I like 1999pts, in the summer we had a tournament with scenarios and 1999pts and it was great fun, because of the scenarios the army builds where completly different for instance( altough not always better, I have to admit I ran 5 chariots and 12 fanatics xD).

Cheers,
G

BigbyWolf
21-01-2010, 15:57
TBH I play games of all sizes, usually 2000 or 3000 points, but if someone wants to play without lords, I'm happy to do so. A 1999 point game resticts rare/ specials and in certain armies an over-reliance on core troops can be detrimental, but that just makes you try harder. ;)

Condottiere
21-01-2010, 18:33
I prefer 1500 points, because you then have to consider what exactly you're bringing along.

Ender Shadowkin
21-01-2010, 18:42
I like them, the local tournaments around my parts run two 1999 a year. There are a couple armies that have some uber strong builds. Namely a few lists can crank out a lot of magic that is hard to defend. Daemons are still really good, Lizardmen with Steg spam (with engine of the gods you get an equivalent lord level caster), and He (lvl2 Dragon Mages + lvl 2 mage + banner of sorcery + ring of Fury = YIKES).

Other than that their tends to be a lot of Core on the board with battle lines and such.

gorenut
21-01-2010, 18:50
For me, its either 1,500 or 2000 pts. I'm with those who say at around 2,000 pts, it just feels right to be able to bring a Lord to the table.

theunwantedbeing
21-01-2010, 18:54
1999 hailariously screws over the VC lot.
Only 36.2% of the list can be character's instead of the usual 55-60%
Infact, after minimal core your looking at 55-60% of the points left to fill!

So I like that :)

Stops me finding my DE list outnumbers my opponent 2 to 1(or even 3 to 1 occasionally!) as thats rather wierd against a VC list which is supposed to be a hoarde.(and actually works damned well as a hoarde....I know this from experience)

Sons of Blight
21-01-2010, 21:22
yeah I've been playing my VC at 1999 very challenging! :)

Toshiro
21-01-2010, 22:21
I have a 2k game tomorrow, but we decided on no rares for this one :D

Dag
22-01-2010, 08:40
1999 isnt about no lords, its about 3 spec and 1 rare.

you have to load out on troops and this usually means much larger games. Some heroes can cost up to 500pts or as low as 150, but special+rare is usually 600+. This makes you rely on a much more troop based game, in my opinion, more fun.

Heroes still shine as theres mainly basic infantry on the board and hero level character is damn good fighty vs them.

The Red Scourge
22-01-2010, 10:06
Going below 2K and doing without the lord really opened my eyes for the more tactical sides of the game and the use of troops over characters. Those experiences then come to good use, when you go over 2K again.

Condottiere
22-01-2010, 12:28
While I agree that tactics do get more focused on at below 2000 points, I'd say it would depend on my mood and time, as I find really large games very enjoyable.

Kuroi
22-01-2010, 12:37
Meh, I like lords in my games...They add a more heroic feel to the games.

jullevi
22-01-2010, 14:49
I believe I played some 1999pts games in 6th edition. The best part is that due to lack of lords and elite options, you are encouraged to spend more points on troops, resulting in armies that look like armies. I am not much of a fan of metaplay where minimum core units are taken simply because it is compulsory, and majority of points is spend on characters and elite troops instead. It is not Warhammer.

We did take x999 a bit further by playing larger multiplayer battles every now and then. Usually both sides consisted of five 2999pts armies, resulting easily in 1000+ or so painted miniatures on the battlefield at once. That is Warhammer.

Sons of Blight
22-01-2010, 17:45
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