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Firmlog
10-03-2010, 05:56
Working on Haradrim for War of the Ring, I haven't got much yet, but heres the progress so far.


of course first is my wraith, The Betrayer I hope to add Kamul the Easterling later if we continue playing
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/016-1.jpg

Haradrim Horsemen
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/002-5.jpg

Haradrim with bows will get folded into the Spears unit to help bulk up the company
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/023-1.jpg

haradrim with spears
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/022-1.jpg

My assassin, I was hoping for more but when I ordered I only got 1 :(
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/021-2.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/020-1.jpg

I'm planning on adding easterling with my next purchase. Currently I have one more box of warriors, one more box of Raiders and a mumak.

What do you think I should paint next.

Looks like warseer won't allow pics so you have to click on the links for the photos.

Sedge
10-03-2010, 12:12
It might be a little easier if you could list what figures you have, what you have painted and what you would like to paint next. We can steer you the correct direction best we can.

Love the painting by the way. It's really nice to see some well painted WotR armies on here once in a while.

Firmlog
10-03-2010, 22:02
Wow that was pretty harsh, Kinda *******, but thank you for the comment. I would however like to point to the bottom of my post which lists specifically what I have...

Raiders, Warriors and a Mumak. Damn, now I sound *******.

Shinnentai
10-03-2010, 22:36
I think you must be seeing some kinda hidden message in Sedge's post, because it looks looks nothing but helpful and complimentary to me o.o

Warseer does allow pics, although there is a limit per post and I think a smiley counts towards it XD (three per post IIRC?). Could be pics are limited to certain sections too - iunno only ever posted em in the painting projects sections :-)

Whitwort Stormbringer
10-03-2010, 23:08
I'm inclined to say you should trudge your way through that last box of warriors, then the raiders, then tackle the Mumak. Save the big stuff for last, or you'll lose momentum and end up with an army of undercoated infantry.

Firmlog
10-03-2010, 23:33
well I started working on the Mumak anyways late last night. Coulnd't sleep lol. I figure with the amount of drybrushing on the model I can power though it pretty fast, and then do the troops that come with it with the rest of the warriors, giving them a more uniform feel.

I realized I need to do a little green stuff to fill gaps though :( . anyone else have a problem with the Mumak?

I'll use this thread to show the works in progress and finished models on the first post. :)

Whitwort Stormbringer
11-03-2010, 07:05
I've never put one together, but my brother did several years back and I do remember there being a couple gaps that had to be filled in. I guess it's not necessarily something that's uncommon with a lot of GW models though :(

Firmlog
12-03-2010, 20:30
Actually Most GW models have been pretty good about not needing green stuff. This one did though, I even went above and beyond and added some green stuffs to some of the joints that looked un-solid.

Well it worked out for me as last night I knocked it over and across my pavement and porch, and you know what, absolutely nothing broke or came off. YAY

Shrapnelsmile
14-03-2010, 06:17
Actually Most GW models have been pretty good about not needing green stuff. This one did though, I even went above and beyond and added some green stuffs to some of the joints that looked un-solid.

Well it worked out for me as last night I knocked it over and across my pavement and porch, and you know what, absolutely nothing broke or came off. YAY

Now that is good news -- I'm glad it wasn't fully painted when you did that.

Post some pix of the painting progress when you have time, I'd love to see.

Firmlog
15-03-2010, 11:09
Alrighty, Here you go Mumak in progress.

I should've waited on starting and took some assembly pics but too bad you loose out lol.

first here is the Mumak. The Oliphant is fully assembled, the Howdah is 90% assembled with about 10% left on the sprue to paint as they would have been in the way.
I think the highlighting on the Oliphant isn't as well shown as in person, the light grey doesn't seem to show up well. The feet and knees and large folds in the skin really pop out.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/001-3.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/002-5.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/004-5.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/005-5.jpg

Wil Grand
16-03-2010, 10:48
Actually Most GW models have been pretty good about not needing green stuff.


Wait until you try the mounted Aragorn; King of Gondor model....

Anyway, you're shaping up to have something nice going on. I'm new to WotR as well, having only just got the rulebook so I can't really coment on formation as yet but you've got a good solid and convincing colour scheme which won't have you tearing your hair out trying to get past the 200 model stage ;)

Firmlog
18-03-2010, 04:33
New Update to my Mumak.

I added the base of red. however I'm still working on layers. I've almost finished the 2nd layer.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/001-4.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/003-6.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/004-6.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/005-6.jpg

I wish I could learn to post pics or thumbs on this site, doesn't seem to want to do it.

Firmlog
24-03-2010, 05:50
okeedokee got some more painting done on the Mumak a couple of days ago. I just need to do the tusks and touch up one rope.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/003-7.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/005-7.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/006-4.jpg

Sedge
24-03-2010, 09:51
Looking good. Have you ever used a Mumak in WotR before? What are they like?

Firmlog
24-03-2010, 21:52
I haven't even played WOTR yet. Me and my opponent are waiting till all the models are painted before we play. I'm a little ahead, I think, but he has dwarves so he does not need to. paint as many as I do.

I know I'll be facing an eagle and dwarf infantry so I hope my shooting can take down the eagle before it does too much damage, and my mumakil can plow into the infantry, perhaps supported by cavalry to win combat resolution, this will of course be a perfect situation. But I'm hoping my superior maneuverability over the dwarves will help win the day.

Hero adamite
24-03-2010, 22:25
Very nice army so far, i wish i could paint that well. I have a mumakil unpainted. Im not sure really how to do the skin and i am not very good painter in general so i didn't want to ruin it.

Firmlog
25-03-2010, 10:15
the skin was easy, just took a lot of paint. Codex grey mixed with a little chaos black painted over the whole thing. Dry brush (heavy) codex grey straight over the whole thing.

Dry brush (lightly) fortress grey over the raised areas of the skin and down the center of the back.

For the red, do yourself a favor and get macharite red. Its a life saver but You'll still need at least 2 coats.

Azexis
25-03-2010, 17:17
IMO haradrim cavalry are useless. They might as well have a huge neon sign saying Shoot here! Usually 200pts down the drain. I actually think haradrim are underpowered for point cost.
25 pts = Haradrim Warrior = 4 Def vs. 25 pts = Warrior of Minas Tirith = 7 Def
hmmm, now how are they going to stack up....

Firmlog
26-03-2010, 11:40
I'm hoping to use the Haradrim Raiders as a harassing force. They should be covering flanks and engaging opponents after the infantry on in conjunction with them. I really like the models and doubt I will get rid of them regardless of how awful they do, but I haven't played yet so I'll have to see. I may possibly use them as serpent guard if that gets better results, I just like the models too much to dispose of them, and they are one of the major factors in getting the force (besides the Mumakil)

Spiney Norman
26-03-2010, 11:59
IMO haradrim cavalry are useless. They might as well have a huge neon sign saying Shoot here! Usually 200pts down the drain. I actually think haradrim are underpowered for point cost.
25 pts = Haradrim Warrior = 4 Def vs. 25 pts = Warrior of Minas Tirith = 7 Def
hmmm, now how are they going to stack up....

Interesting, I've never had anyone direct overwhelming archery at my Harad Raiders, they were usually too busy trying to hurt the mumak.

Mumakil aren't great in WotR, but they are much, much better than in SBG. The biggest problem is, if they stampede into terrain they just give up and die so when you start losing crew it can be a real problem.

They are a brilliant distraction though.

Azexis
26-03-2010, 17:00
I gave up using Mumak. This is how a battle report against gondor would go:

Turn 1: Aragorn and Radagast leading the Grey Company, kill the Mumak with enough arrows to block out the sun. The End

And now my goblin opponent:
Turn 1: 4 companies of Goblin archers with a Captain, kill the Mumak with enough arrows to block out the sun... The end

And my brother who plays gondor with heavy siege engines:
Turn 1: A siege commander directed his two trebuchets and his 2 bolt-throwers, kill the Mumak with enough arrows to block out the sun... The end

And now my other friend who plays elves:
Turn 1: Self explanatory

But all of them usually have multiple archers and apparently some eastern guy in a turban wearing bamboo armor is more frightening then the horde of bamboo wearing infantry and easterling phalanx marching towards them...

ForgottenLore
26-03-2010, 17:09
You might like playing me. The only ranged attack in my misty mountains list is a troll with thrown weapons.

Well, and magic.

Xelee
27-03-2010, 00:02
Interesting, I've never had anyone direct overwhelming archery at my Harad Raiders, they were usually too busy trying to hurt the mumak.

Mumakil aren't great in WotR, but they are much, much better than in SBG. The biggest problem is, if they stampede into terrain they just give up and die so when you start losing crew it can be a real problem.

They are a brilliant distraction though.
I think that if you are going to be running low def troops, you either have to have truly heaps of them (and they are inf, not cav) OR they have to be screened OR shooting them is not the best choice at that time given other problems.

I think the Mumak is the very best kind of 'other problem'. It would take a supreme act of self discipline to just ignore it :D

Firmlog
31-03-2010, 01:28
Been slacking about painting up my mumak, working on ork truck and Kopta's, almost finished. I hope to finish tonight.

Well here are some pics of the mumakil, the base was finished recently, and I'm working on the tusks now. Since I've been slacking heres the pics of whats done so far.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/003-8.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/004-7.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/005-8.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/006-5.jpg

Firmlog
03-04-2010, 12:32
heres another update to the Mumakil. here are the horns I'm working on. is the effect working? I realize now that it was a terrible idea to attach them to the Mumakil before being painted. Getting in and around the model to paint the horns has been a real chore and I haven't been able to get very straight lines.

Bummer... well I know for the next one.

heres the pick.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/008-4.jpg

Whitwort Stormbringer
05-04-2010, 02:29
The tusks look great!

Firmlog
07-04-2010, 05:48
Thank you very much. I was a little worried they weren't comming out well. I cleaned them up a little when I was finished so the points are a little cleaner. I think they look fine in photo's and from a distance, but not up close.

Ok, I finally finished the Mumakil. I put the troopers I finished on it as well.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/001-5.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/004-8.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/006-6.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/War%20of%20the%20rings/007-4.jpg

Shrapnelsmile
07-04-2010, 19:38
Amazing work my friend. I almost look forward to being trampled.

Whitwort Stormbringer
14-04-2010, 02:48
good job! it looks very impressive, especially with all the haradrim on top. keep up the good work, what's next on the chopping block?

Firmlog
15-04-2010, 22:46
Next will be more Haradrim warriors. In the pics I used the ones I already painted, but I need to paint the 13 in the box, and another regular box of, oh I think 16.

I'll get to work on them after I paint this squad of 30 orks, or maybe while doing the 30 orks after I finish the squad of hard boyz and a few special weapons bearers.... Course there is always the Kans and deff dreads, to think about.

I'm also helping a buddy finish a BloodBowl Table, and helping him paint two teams for other players (to help get the league started).

The Haradrim paint up pretty fast luckily, I really want to get to other stuff, but I suppose in a week +/- a few days I'll pump out those 30 or so haradrim in that week just to get them out of the way. The drawback will be I'll want to finish the second squad of Raiders as well after they are done, maybe I'll just to the 13 next week, small numbers and quick to boot, finish off that box of the mumakil and clear up some space in my game room.

Here's the sample pic of my work projects:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/cypherkk/003-9.jpg

The black square is BB tomb kings, silver figs in the Bottome Right corner BB gobbos, Painted orks on paint tray - Nobs from AOBR probably be used as Ard' Boyz., Silver Orks on paint trey, OOP metal Nobs and BigMek with Shock Attack gun, Painted ork upper hand of trey AOBR Warboss, probably use in smaller early games. Bottle on the left, Nectare of the Gods! LOL Oh, and thats the BloodBowl Stadium in the Background.

My War of the rings box's are somewhere under the Monsterpocolypse and squats box between the flying Boats and manowar box. I still have the two boxes one if infantry one of Raiders and then I'll have to make a new order.

And the 30 orks for regular boyz squad is... Oh right behind me (not pictured) lol.

So I think I should be able to get to the infantry after about a week. Unless my opponent try's to get his stuff painted before me. Can't have that....

Shrapnelsmile
07-06-2010, 06:15
So I think I should be able to get to the infantry after about a week. Unless my opponent try's to get his stuff painted before me. Can't have that....


I'm starting a painting thread of my Dwarves this week, just to keep you on your toes!

sachi
05-07-2010, 07:12
very good comments thanks to share

HRM
05-07-2010, 11:54
I couldn't paint that well if you held a gun to my daughter's head. Seriously, you should see my Rohan - looks like complete ass next to your work.

Outstanding!

Khamul
06-07-2010, 07:31
I'm pretty useless at painting too... And my salary means that I never have the right color :cries:

Shrapnelsmile
06-07-2010, 16:00
I hang out and paint with Firmlog sometimes, and what is crazy is how fast he does this. He may say it is slow, but I think all of you can trust me that my assessment is realistic.
He has helped me with a lot of tips, but I have to ask him about everything -- I truly feel now that a certain portion of mini painting skill is pure intuition and bred talent, no matter how much someone walks you through the steps and strategies.

HRM
06-07-2010, 16:49
I hang out and paint with Firmlog sometimes, and what is crazy is how fast he does this. He may say it is slow, but I think all of you can trust me that my assessment is realistic.
He has helped me with a lot of tips, but I have to ask him about everything -- I truly feel now that a certain portion of mini painting skill is pure intuition and bred talent, no matter how much someone walks you through the steps and strategies.

I agree 100%. It's like me and my guitar - I can practice all I want, but I'll never be Eddie Van Halen.

Firmlog
07-07-2010, 05:19
Thats funny. It really makes me feel good about my painting.

I paint with another guy that makes my stuff look very amateur. He won't even let me photograph his stuff cause I can't take good enough pictures of it lol. While I was painting these models he was constantly mentioning all the parts I wasn' painting.