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Asp
16-03-2010, 00:02
I heard today that a standard human moves only 3" in LoTR, is that true? Why not 4" like in WHFB?

Whitwort Stormbringer
16-03-2010, 00:10
Um, it's kind of true. Standard movement for humans and just about everything else is 6", but they can only move 3" if they want to shoot. There is no running/charging in LotR, just the standard 6" move. So when looking at the game through the lens of a warhammer player, standard movement is effectively 3" since that's as far as you can move if you still want to shoot, and you can move twice that when not shooting or engaging in hand-to-hand combat. Conversely, from the perspective of a LotR player one could say that standard movement for a human in warhammer is 8".

Exceptions to this rule are:
cavalry, which move 10"
dwarves and goblins, which move 5"
and hobbits, which move 4"

ForgottenLore
16-03-2010, 00:21
Are you talking about the Strategy Battle game or War of the Ring?

2 completely different systems.

Asp
16-03-2010, 00:55
the skirmish game

thanks for the very good reply, WB.

do missile weapons have shorter ranges too?

IllidanStormrage
16-03-2010, 02:06
no offense these questions can all be answered if you take a look at the rule book...

ForgottenLore
16-03-2010, 02:27
Well, it sounds like he is thinking of starting the SBG and perhaps doesn't have the rulebook.

I know if I were trying to decide whether to start a new game or not I would come to a forum like this to ask a few basic questions. (at least, I would if I were smart and not a compulsive spender, sigh, game companies and stories really like me.)

IllidanStormrage
16-03-2010, 03:06
Yeah sorry if i sounded like a jerk, ha i didn't mean it like that

Asp
16-03-2010, 21:22
so elves are not faster than humans in lotr?

Caiphas Cain
16-03-2010, 22:21
Nope. At least they wern't last year.

Whitwort Stormbringer
16-03-2010, 22:36
Not faster on open ground, although almost if not all elves have the "woodland creatures" special rule, allowing them to move through difficult terrain at normal speed.

Most ranged combat is restricted to bows, magic, and throwing weapons, so the longest range that I can think of is 24". However, warmachines will shoot further, and there are rules for crossbows (I just don't remember them at the moment) which may shoot farther.

Generally speaking, missile weapons are guaged more by strength than by range.

fracas
16-03-2010, 22:42
don't forget that groups of 10+ bows in SBG can also volley fire (indirect fire)

Whitwort Stormbringer
16-03-2010, 22:51
don't forget that groups of 10+ bows in SBG can also volley fire (indirect fire)

Ah that's right. Volley fire is effectively a reduced chance to hit in favor of longer range and (potentially) hitting opponents that are obscured or aren't in sight.

Asp
18-03-2010, 13:03
what is the shortest bow range then, 12?

I have ordered the rulebook. thanks for your replies

Whitwort Stormbringer
21-03-2010, 19:57
I'm pretty sure the shortest bow range is 18", whereas throwing spears/axes are 6" (and can be thrown on the charge).

C-Coen
23-03-2010, 16:15
Indeed, most of the shorter bows are 18", whereas crossbows/longbows/regular bows are 24". Volleying 18-36 or 18-48.