PDA

View Full Version : Old Favorite White Dwarfs



War Angel
23-03-2010, 17:06
Let's talk about old favorites. From as far back to as new as we like. :)

I'm doing some cleaning and I came across White Dwarfs I haven't seen in years. One is US White Dwarf 287.
A great issue this is. :D

The results of the Eye of Terror are great. :cool: Caliban warzone talking about how the Dark Angels fought
for the warzone.Keeping their secret "while Cadia burned." The Voice of the Emperor causing trouble.

Or Belial IV. Maugan Ra encountering Altansar and forming the Strike Forces of Ulthwe.

Kill Team rules are good because it expands on the other issue's stuff.

Relictors/Radical Daemonhunters get some new toys which must be as fun to use as read about.. :skull:

Schaeffer's Last Chancers rules. I don't know if the rules are outdated but they're fun anyway.
Maybe adapted for the current edition.

The Crimson Fist Index Astartes is in here too. Great art and the story for anyone who hasn't read it.
Another story unrelated and a mission.

So what are some of your favorites. :confused:

x-esiv-4c
23-03-2010, 17:26
Oddly enough, WD300. Not one of my favorites but it pulled me into playing deathguard.

Memnos
23-03-2010, 17:40
The WD with the Gnoblar army list! Sadly, mine has disappeared.

Spectrar Ghost
23-03-2010, 18:33
#301 Battle Report: 'Desert Kidnap'.

The Speed Freek army is unique and a standard I aspire to. If only R/Cs were cheaper...

Jack Spratt
23-03-2010, 18:43
Back when Fat Bloke was editor i still liked reading WD. It has been seriously down hill since then. The sad truth is I just stopped buying it on a monthly basis about a year ago.

Thud
23-03-2010, 20:20
259 UK.

I'd been reading my mate's mags for a while, but that one was the first I bought myself. Perhaps I'm tainted by nostalgia, but I still think it was a jolly good read. :)

theenigma
23-03-2010, 21:47
205 UK for me,

My first issue, seeing that BA Dread just blew my mind at the time.

I was given one of the old starter sets for Christmas (you know the one, the one that came with a plastic SM and a Chaos warrior and 6-8 paints) and this was my first foray into a gaming / hobby shop.

I think it was the Dreaddy article that did it for me, seeing all those different SM Chapters being represented along with the "Trash Can" Ork Dreads (still love that Bad Moons one).

If memory serves, this was also the one with Kym Sybergs' converted SW dread, that really took my breath away and I remember asking if I could buy that exact model but was a little deflated after being told that it was a conversion and that it must have taken ages to do :(

I think that was also the one with the GD results for '96? might be wrong but I really loved that chap that did the SW models, I think there was also a chap that entered (what would prolly be Raven Guard nowadays) Marines, really good colour scheme - bone and purple / black with beakie helmets and Ultra backpacks (with the eagles on the exhausts).
I remember seeing Mark Liftons' entry of a converted Ork Warbuggy too, really loved that (and the "I8UMANS" number plate!) conversion.

I think (again could be wrong) that this issue also had a piece on a diorama featuring Catachans in a crashed Land Speeder surrounded by Orks at "Outpost Numba 9". I remember going out and buying a lot of Balsa wood after that, a full Catty squad box and a full box of metal Gretchin and Nobs and also a ton of Milliput!
My version wasn't as good but I felt really chuffed that I could make a similar diorama as only a few of the models were heavily converted in the pic.

Wow man, didn't think all that was still stored in my noggin'

Good thread idea War Angel!

Cheers,
Harv :)

Bigbot
23-03-2010, 21:59
197, 201 both damn good reads for me I keep going back to

War Angel
23-03-2010, 22:36
A favorite of any issue that applies are ones with Kill Team stuff. I'm
collecting them so I can play someday. The rulebooks may have updated
stuff but until then I can dream with these.

The first time I got into Kill Team was when the Ork and Terminator were in
344 US. The Black Reach issue.

I wanted to do a Blood Axe Kill Team since it fit them. When I saw that it
was Kommandos I was bummed. But then I found rules that let me use other
stuff. So maybe I can still use him. If not Blood Axes I can always use him as
a Death Skull. Instead of untrustworthy gits I can have thieve'n blighters.

Another favorite is the one with the Zealots. I love reading the rules or how
they're in armies.


Wow man, didn't think all that was still stored in my noggin'

Good thread idea War Angel!
An unexpected bonus from this thread. Gotta get this stuff down so it can be
told to others like the readers here.

Thanks for the praise theenigma. Love the avatar.

Makes a kinda newbie like me feel good to know others like my posts.
And I thought I was kinda of a killer since threads don't seem to get alot after I post.


197, 201 both damn good reads for me I keep going back to
I love going back to issues. Stories I read. Index Astartes and whatnot.

bigcheese76
23-03-2010, 22:49
I cant remember the issue number, but my favourite WD ever was because of one picture. There was a chaos guard army, painted by two people and a load of the stuff was from FW. The army looks amazing and I love having a look back at my friends copy of the WD to just seee that picture, unfortunately I dont have the issue myself.

e2055261
24-03-2010, 09:41
WD 99! Can't remember what was in it but i liked it at the time. Sadly, WD 99 is no longer with us... he fell apart next to the toilet in his autumn years. He lead a full life.

AndrewGPaul
24-03-2010, 09:52
Strangely enough, issue #133; the one with the ruiles for the Ork Shokk Attack Gun (about 12 pages of rules just for one weapon!). I used to love reading the target effect tables; like Dreadnoughts getting one leg jammed with snotlings so it could only walk in a circle, or Terminators getting savaged by frenzied snotlings inside their armour (or, alternatively, simply biting the head off the snotling and carrying on unfazed). Never played Orks, and certainly never had a Shokk Attack Gun, but that article was brilliant.

It also had one of the ongoing series of articles detailing the Suiddock district of Marienburg for WFRP; things like the pub run by an old sailor and his grumpy pet pelican, or the leather goods emporium whose proprietor was secretly an assassin, or the old bag lady who just wanders around mumbling to herself, but is usually good for a plot hook or two.

The Clairvoyant
24-03-2010, 10:20
WD99 had this:
http://www.gamehobby.net/white_dwarf_magazine/white_dwarf_099.html

I don't really have a fave issue, but my favourite period around WD195-205.

During that period we had lots of warhammer quest articles, loads of 40k FAQs, lots of necromunda articles, interview with Andy Chambers...

This was the period when Jake Thornton took over as editor. I liked the Fat Bloke period too, but it was during the thornton period that white dwarf got around 50% longer, gained plenty of card inserts and lots of rules. It was during this time that GW were releasing the new metal regiments for the guard and giving rules for the units, whilst the guard codex was still being written.
Also has the first GW 40k tournament.
I love the pics with the captions

"players were judged on their sportsmanship" (with a pic of some kid looking rather grumpy), "their painting" (with a pic of a guy deploying his unpainted gretchin and a pile of unpainted orks) "and their army selection" (with a pic of a guy who just had two squads of terminators lined up)

toonboy78
24-03-2010, 10:33
156 (i think)

it had a great Space Marine (EPIC) battle report blood angels V Chaos, with Grey Knights teleporting in and banishing Magnus the Red back to the Warp.

it also had Space Wolves and i think Tyrion and Teclis article as well. this is what got me hooked on the hobby.

howlinmonkey
25-03-2010, 19:52
It was the time of enlightenment,clarity made manifest...Well WD52(yes I'm that old).It was the golden age when WD was not inhouse and carried other systems and even provided info for them!
White Dwarf back then was a great magazine,full of wonder and quirks.Now its too pofaced and corporate in its outlook(you need to buy this new kit otherwise you'll lose!)worst one was the issue they turned their back on the gaming community.

chromedog
26-03-2010, 02:37
WD95/96 and 127.

Introducing the Harlequins and the revamp of the eldar by Jes Goodwin (complete with his concept sketches and warpaint markings for exarches not wearing a helmet).

Sinner_74
26-03-2010, 03:44
WD 109 for me

Land Raider! the original rules for vehicles in Adeptus Titanicus

Imperial Guard army list with the fantastic art of Paul Bonner and Pete Knifton

The original rules for the Terminators

Rules for Reavers and Warhounds in Adeptus Titanicus

All the fantstic Epic scale battle scenes

And a great Eavy Metal featuring chaos renegades and conversions

And it was the very first WD I ever bought (I own 2 copies of it now)

Earthbeard
26-03-2010, 10:16
The 4 Issues with the trail rules for Confrontation / Early Necromunda, including the background.

They captivated me so much when I was younger, and still do. The exact issue numbers escape me currently - but one was the BA Marine fighting scavvies on the cover.

*sighs wistfully*

mattjgilbert
26-03-2010, 11:18
107 always sticks in my mind. It had the first battle report in it and I loved it. I don't know how many times I read it and how it inspired me to collect big armies!

TheBigBadWolf
26-03-2010, 13:28
White Dwarf 227, first WD I bought, I bought it with money I got from Guising (Trick or Treating for the USAers).

panshandle
29-03-2010, 14:12
Uk 86 the first one I bought. It still had role playing scenario's in for CoC and WFRP (does anyone remember "When Mad Gods Laugh" or "Something Smells Rotten in Kislev". Also any of the ones that had Thrud in, I can't remember the issue number but one sticks out in my mind in which Thrudd beats a hobbit throughout the whole strip but the hobbit just won't die, at the end the punch line was "Well they do say old Hobbits die hard" its a crap joke but I loved it.

sliganian
30-03-2010, 16:13
Anything with a decent 'Index Astartes' article in it (not all were great though).

As well, the issue(s) that had the huge, 2-part battle report for Armageddon that involved about 4 or 5 tables, 10 GW staffers and a great narrative around the action.

Galvatron1701
30-03-2010, 19:59
Issue 229 for me (UK). My first ever white dwarf. It was about the release of the 3rd edition Blood Angels. How I loved that issue, the battle report was fantastic. I still have it under my bed. (thats in a box, not under my mattress...)

GavT
01-04-2010, 10:52
Anybody who picks an issue after #200 cannot claim to be too old...

Anyways. White Dwarf 127. For me the Eldar were the first step in 'Phase 2' of 40K development. An army list in one place, huge swathes of background, cool colour schemes and - most inspiring of all - Jes's awesome concept sketches. There had been army features before, but WD127 was just packed with greatness.

Large swathes of the best White Dwarfs for me are the memories of working on them - the Dark Elves/ Orcs series of Raid articles between Ian Pickstock and Jake; Papa Nurgle Steve Anastasoff and his Necromunda articles; The Ork goodness incarnate that was Grand Warlord Adi Wood. I'm still quite chuffed that several gaming clubs banned the use of my Undead Blood Bowl tactics because they were too effective (the BB equivalent of one-nil to the Arsenal!).

Things have changed from these two periods though. In the first instance, WD has been replaced by army books and supplements as the means for supporting the game systems. Players only need one or two books now, rather than carting about an armful of magazines.

In the second instance, we had two advantages: the size of the magazine and the availability of (what are now called) Specialist Games that we could produce endless content for without mucking up the core system. We also still had occasional releases that were supported in WD only - lots of the Imperial Guard were previewed in WD before the Codex, for instance, while now and then we had cool new stuff like the Assassins or Razorbacks. My first article was for the Squat Cylops in Epic! The variety gave added texture to the magazine.

I remember the days before there was a battle report in every issue... Who else recalls 24 Hours at Carik Mound, or a Clash of Evil, with their hand-drawn maps?

The community has changed a bit too, I feel there's more tribalism around. What do I mean by that? When I were a lad, we each had our favourite armies, but collected all sorts. Nearly everybody I knew bought Ragnar Blackmane and painted him using Mike McVey's guide, even if they had no interest in playing Space Wolves at all. The same was true when Tyrion and Teclis first arrived, and Yarrick for that matter. Nobody cared what rules they had, they were just swept up by the coolness of the models.

It may just be 'net bias, but I get the impression a lot of people approach WD these days with the attitude of 'What's in it for me?', 'For my army?' even 'My games system?' rather than indulging in the whole thing for its own sake and seeing what grabs them. Rose-tinted eyeballs? Probably.

Given the choice between the anarchic, incomprehensible and semi-random development of those early days, and the structure and stability of the present, I really don't which I would choose. The first was an exciting plce to be, but only worked in the very close-knit gaming groups that existed. The second is all about the even playing field so that gamers from any part of the world could get together and throw down their models for a game. As with other areas, the globalisation of the hobby has brought many benefits to gamers, but not without something else being sacrificed.

Cheers,

GAV

Jedi152
01-04-2010, 11:01
127 is supposed to be awesome, i've always been tempted to pick it up on eBay.

My favourite will always be 159, my first ever issue. I picked it up from my news agent without knowing anything apart from that it looked cool, and i spent ages poring over the gorgeous models and reading through unfathomable pages of rules.

Good times.

The boyz
01-04-2010, 15:26
WD 209 is my most memorable as it was the first one I bought.

My favourite though, has got to be 221. Just for the massive 48,000pt battle report between Empire and O&G's.

vargojones
01-04-2010, 16:27
I think my life could have gone in many directions in february 1990, however on acquiring this

http://www.gamehobby.net/white_dwarf_magazine/white_dwarf_123.html

in march 1990, i was ever destined to be a geek. In fact looking at it's my 20th year in the hobby :D

What really grabbed me was the cool models, and more than anything the diorama on the back page, which had various Epic IG models, including the Capitol Imperialis. Naturally Space Marines captured my imagination as well, but the whole feel of the hobby just grabbed me and pulled me in, and i think i'm a better person for it.

So to all the staff at GW over the years, thanks :)

sliganian
01-04-2010, 19:19
Given the choice between the anarchic, incomprehensible and semi-random development of those early days, and the structure and stability of the present, I really don't which I would choose.

Respectfully Gav, I would guess that the answer to your question bolded above is revealed in certain career decisions you made recently? :angel:

Since we are talking about WD, if you are willing, I am curious about any words you might have about the changes that were made to the White Dwarf Battle reports over, say, the last 5 years?

The Bat Reps used to be such an important part of where players felt they could connect with the Designers. Seeing the people who wrote the game actually play the game (and their thoughts on list builds and tactics) was always a good read.

Then - sadly -- we saw Bat Reps diminish to the point of a farcial shadow of what they once were. Game Turns and all the action analysis went from a few paragraphs to a few bullet points. I admit to having stopped buying WD about 2 years and one of the main reasons was that loss of the 'connection' in to the thoughts and minds of the Designers.

New Cult King
02-04-2010, 08:33
#301 Battle Report: 'Desert Kidnap'.

The Speed Freek army is unique and a standard I aspire to. If only R/Cs were cheaper...

Is that the one with all the huge orange trucks? If so, I looove that army.

Spectrar Ghost
02-04-2010, 17:04
That's the one. It's sweet.

Lewis
02-04-2010, 17:51
I remember the days before there was a battle report in every issue... Who else recalls 24 Hours at Carik Mound, or a Clash of Evil, with their hand-drawn maps?
GAV

Both reviewed briefly here http://http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246054


In reviewing my old WD's it really did striike me the extent to which it was a staging ground for rules in a way it isn't today, but at the same time a WD didn't used to be about anything in particular: very rarely would you get an issue, like we do almost evert month now, that was the big release of thing x. It seems like the release of an army list is growing more and more important with the magazine telling us less and less about said release.

lethlis
24-05-2010, 16:30
I have to say it is the white dwarf that had the necron 5 unit armylist. It inspired me to play the metalcron's that I still love to this day. But then again I enjoyed all the white dwarfs that were related to an army release. Always had good fluff.

Lars Porsenna
24-05-2010, 20:24
Can't remember the issue number, but it was maybe the 2nd or 3rd issue I bought (this was back in the mid-to-late '80s). It was the one introducing the Realms of Chaos supplements, with lots of fluff, figures, and modeling tips for various Gifts of Chaos. I remember initially being attracted to it because the cover art was very much inspired by Michael Moorcock's Hawkwood series (it showed various "chaos" cavalry in animal masks, just like the Granbretanians from Moorcock's books).

I also have an issue floating around with an article called something like "Something rotten in Kislev" that detailed Russian folklore style creatures for WHFRPG. Great writing and very evocative. If only I had the chance to use it (did a little for D&D)...

Damon.

RealMikeBob
28-05-2010, 20:30
Issue 224 for me.

A Legion of the Damned army list, trial rules for Mordheim, tips for Epic Titans, a Warhammer Siege battle report and to cap it all off a Mike Walker article AND rules for my favourite Necro Gang, the Pit Slaves.

Magic :)

Plagueridden
28-05-2010, 22:33
I love the WD's pre-100 so to speak.
grew up with those.

Graf of Orlock
30-05-2010, 13:10
The issue with the Trollslayer on the cover and the Necromunda Heist scenario in, possibly 191 (certainly around that number). The Heist was a hell of a lot of fun and became the second most played scenario after Gang Fight for me and my brother.

gunmonkey
30-05-2010, 14:54
Thats issue 198, and The Heist is quite a brill scenario.

Finn Sourscowl
30-05-2010, 20:03
Such a difficult question - there are so many (although interestingly, none from the last five years or so)...

I think I'd have to settle on my first though, 134. Just for the nostalgia and the first incarnation of a certain Ork Warlord :)

The issues around 190-205 are also excellent for the shear volume of readable content *coughinstarkcontrasttocurrentissuescough*

Arkfatalis
30-05-2010, 23:32
Mine has to be the one with Rulgud's armoured orcs and the fluff on Grimigor. That was the first white dwarf I ever bought, and they where the first miniatures I ever bought. Although I played greenskins when I got into the hobby, I eventually changed to DOW as I prefer the fluff on the different regiments, and the unqiueness they have.

thenamelessdead
31-05-2010, 12:38
I'd still love to get hold of an issue with the Golden Demon results from the early nineties (152 or something like that). I've actually got it but half the pages are missing as the previous owner didn't take care of his stuff. The cool thing about it is that a the models mostly pre-date the Red Period, as does the painting style, so imo the models were cooler and more imaginative than GD winners for a few years after that.

LonelyPath
31-05-2010, 22:06
My all time favourite like likely 114 with the background and fluff for Genestealer incursions on Imperial planets. It really was a great piece and something I still go back and reread from time to time.

Caveritnicus Gracus
01-06-2010, 12:51
The black reach issue it is one of the best though cuality in recent yearts is not very good

thenamelessdead
01-06-2010, 18:26
The black reach issue it is one of the best though cuality in recent yearts is not very good
Only because of the free models!

Ghal Maraz
03-06-2010, 15:18
I'd still love to get hold of an issue with the Golden Demon results from the early nineties (152 or something like that). I've actually got it but half the pages are missing as the previous owner didn't take care of his stuff. The cool thing about it is that a the models mostly pre-date the Red Period, as does the painting style, so imo the models were cooler and more imaginative than GD winners for a few years after that.

I guess you are searching for this one:

White Dwarf 151 (http://www.gamehobby.net/white_dwarf_magazine/white_dwarf_151.html)

You can check on eBay

this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHITE-DWARF-151-/300433687771?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Toys_RolePlaying_RL&hash=item45f33e44db) for an almost finished auction

or

this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAMES-WORKSHOP-WHITE-DWARF-MAGAZINE-ISSUE-151-/260601417875?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item3cad0e1093) for a good Buy It Now.