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ForgottenLore
26-04-2010, 07:44
Does anyone have a list of all the books Tolkien and his son have published about Middle Earth?

Obviously:

Hobbit
Lord of the Rings
Silmarillion

Unfinished Tales and The Lost Tales
wasn't one of these multiple volumes?

Morgoth's Ring

I have also seen The History of Middle Earth, I think in multiple volumes

Children of Hurin

I never really paid much attention to stuff published after the Silmarillion but now I kind of find myself winder just how much has been put out there and figured you guys would know.

Whitwort Stormbringer
26-04-2010, 19:06
I'm not sure what all "counts as" what, in terms of things like The Book of Lost Tales, The History of Middle Earth, or Unfinished Tales, but there are at least two parts to The Book of Lost Tales because I have volumes 1 and 2.

However, here are a couple titles I have that aren't on your list:

The Shaping of Middle-Earth
The Lost Road and Other Writings

Now, as I pointed out, I don't really know what falls under what headings, so it may well be that these two are collectively part of The History of Middle-Earth or something. Anyways, those two along with volumes 1 & 2 of Lost Tales are all available as separate paperbacks.

Hope that helps!

Hellfury
05-05-2010, 15:14
History of Middle earth is 12 volumes. Book of lost tales, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Middle-earth

then there is the newer books by C Tolkien. Sigurd and gudrun, children of hurin, etc.

Then there are the maps books while not really canon, are really helpful illustrating different periods of the geography of arda.

Last but not least is the Language book, which I find to be frankly quite helpful. If for no other reason than to gain a deeper appreciation of Tolkiens hard work in languages which later turned into his fiction.

WD40
06-05-2010, 00:55
The whole language thing is rather stunning. Tolkein invented all of the languages himself, and they're actually not mindless rabble. He used all of the different tense (akkusativ, genativ, subjuktiv, nomativ... all of them). I think its amazing that he went to the extent to do all that. I sorta think that other fantasy writers like Paoloni and J.K Rowling just use random crap that resembles latin for thier spell incantations and such, which just sets Tolkein miles above the rest of them.

Also, Hellfury, are you the same hellfury thats on the one-ring forum? The one forum to rule them all... y'know.

Hellfury
06-05-2010, 02:02
Linguistics are likely the most important thing about being immersed into the fiction. You can literally take classes on the different languages of middle earth (as Prof. Tolkien originally had done with elvish before ever really writing a single line of fiction for LotR) and still not know everything there is to know about it without mass amounts of educated supposition. The basics are there, but it takes a real master of linguistics to really fully grasp what was attempted by Tolkien.

Yep. I am either Hellfury or Colorcrayons on internet forum, gaming and non gaming.

I think I like the One Ring the best. Its the least confrontational and pontificating site I have found for LotR wargaming. Though it has some very...unrefined posters too. TLA is full of cult of personality where their consensus cannot be challenged with being called out by tools like Great Sanguini. This site has similar issues as well, but less so than TLA. At least here when people speak on the game, it is often backed up by logic and not resorting to "but so and so said this so thats makes it right" too often. Even though I find orange-brown fonts annoying in the extreme. :rolleyes:

ForgottenLore
06-05-2010, 09:23
So let's see here

The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings
The Silmarillion

Unfinished Tales (is this multiple books?
The History of Middle Earth - 12 volumes
1. The Book of Lost Tales 1
2. The Book of Lost Tales 2
3. The Lays of Beleriand
4. The Shaping of Middle-earth
5. The Lost Road and Other Writings
6. The Return of the Shadow (The History of The Lord of the Rings v.1)
7. The Treason of Isengard (The History of The Lord of the Rings v.2)
8. The War of the Ring (The History of The Lord of the Rings v.3)
9. Sauron Defeated (includes The History of The Lord of the Rings v.4)
10. Morgoth's Ring (The Later Silmarillion v.1)
11. The War of the Jewels (The Later Silmarillion v.2)
12. The Peoples of Middle-earth
Children of Hurin
The Letters of JRR tolkien

Sigurd and Gudrun (This has nothing directly related to middle earth, right?)

Does that pretty much cover it?

Hellfury
06-05-2010, 13:22
Unfinished tales is a single tome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfinished_Tales

Sigurd and gudrun doesnt have any direct relation to Middle earth other than it containing material that inspired portions of his own conglomerated fiction.

You have the main body of middle earth related work though. There is more but that depends on how far down the rabbit hole you wish to go. Such as 'oliphaunt', a very short childrens book for example.

As for other works related to middle earth, there is a collection book that contains 'the adventures of tom bombadil', a series of poems. Its somehwhat borderline as far as being part of the major body of middle earth literature, but a compulsory buy for completists.
'The road goes ever on' was a song book. While it deals with middle earth songs, it can be ignored since like the language book its more for students than leisure readers.

ForgottenLore
06-05-2010, 13:56
Cool, thanks.

Not actually as much as I thought there might be.

Son_Of_A_Horus
06-05-2010, 21:10
There's also the book, tales from the perilous realm...

Hellfury
07-05-2010, 17:40
There's also the book, tales from the perilous realm...

Its one of many books that contain those short stories. Sadly, 'the adventures of tom bombadil' is the only part of that book even remotely related to middle earth.