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warriorpoet1
19-07-2010, 12:04
The Fallen Realms have possibly the most diverse range to choose from in all of WotR.
With that said, I was wondering what most people collected, an all Harad army, all Easterlings, all Khand, only corsairs, or some kind of mix between them all. Have you gone for a 'pure' list for some character, or did you just select the models that you personally liked?

I ask mainly because im trying to make a Fallen Realms army, and have been stuck with the sheer variety of models avaiable, and wanted to see if this was a drawcard to the army, or something that drove people away.

ForgottenLore
19-07-2010, 14:10
Going for all easterlings is fairly common as they are among the best troops in the game. Mixed armies are also fairly popular though less vocal I believe. Beyond that you do hear about "pure" armies of the other sub-factions, but they are not as common because they are harder to make a viable list.

HRM
19-07-2010, 14:18
I'd love to do an all-Mahud army, because I love the models, but it'd get dull painting THAT many of the same models real quick - not much variety!

Enfid
19-07-2010, 14:46
I wanted to try mono-armies of all the forces in small points (eg 1000 each), then combine them for a coalition in larger games. So overall, I play a mixed army, though no Black Numenoreans, as I theme my army to be more or less True Neutral.

RunepriestRidcully
19-07-2010, 15:53
I have been thinking of getting a small Easterling army (love the charecter models) but trying to save for driving lessons, well that has put a brake on it for now

Kroot Lord
19-07-2010, 18:59
I think most people prefer to have just a single army, perhaps with one or two heroes or formations from other armies depending on the point level.

Tuscuttar
19-07-2010, 19:00
'Driving lessons, put a brake on it' That was awful ;-)

ForgottenLore
19-07-2010, 19:54
I think most people prefer to have just a single army, perhaps with one or two heroes or formations from other armies depending on the point level.

But Fallen Realms IS a single army in the game. Only one list and not really designed for players to sub divide it and still have access to necessary elements.

Nevertheless people do choose to take just the Easterling parts of the army and use those exclusively. Just like some people choose to limit their Gondor armies to all fiefdoms forces, or all Arnor. I advocate using other formations from the army and converting them to fit the unified theme, but not everyone is willing to do that.

RunepriestRidcully
19-07-2010, 20:10
I did not mean that, seriously, I have only just noticed my own bad joke.

Kroot Lord
19-07-2010, 22:23
But Fallen Realms IS a single army in the game. Only one list and not really designed for players to sub divide it and still have access to necessary elements.

Totally agreed. However, my statement was directed towards the general War of the Ring population.

I'd say that it is unnecessary to restrict yourself in the Fallen Realms list; pick and choose different formations from different races. After all, the Witch King led vast and diverse armies from Angmar, so it'd be fit for you to do so too.

warriorpoet1
20-07-2010, 09:55
Going for all easterlings is fairly common as they are among the best troops in the game.

I thought that might be the case. From a gaming perspective its more logical to take easterlings over any others because their cost isnt too high and they have a good stat line.
But its mainly because of this that im considering doing a Corsair/Harad army, with Khand Chariots and/or Horsemen.

HRM
20-07-2010, 12:41
Totally agreed. However, my statement was directed towards the general War of the Ring population.

I'd say that it is unnecessary to restrict yourself in the Fallen Realms list; pick and choose different formations from different races. After all, the Witch King led vast and diverse armies from Angmar, so it'd be fit for you to do so too.

I've seen a lot of folks try and do this with Elves, too - another example of an army that isn't really "meant" to be split up.

Darthvegeta800
26-07-2010, 12:43
I have a huge pure Easterling army. I'm big on themed forces. Picked it solely on looks and GW's invented background. I'm finally going to have my first WoTR game next week.
The rules of WoTR seem quite fun.

warriorpoet1
26-07-2010, 13:06
The rules of WoTR seem quite fun.

I know. And im glad that the new edition of Warhammer Fantasy has taken some of the good rules of WotR on board.

Xelee
26-07-2010, 20:15
Most people I know just build up something based on a subset of the broader lists. Even historically, armies were often not all that diverse in troop types, though often did have auxilia/mercenaries for certain specialist units. So it 'feels' right to just use say the foot bow and cav that Easterlings have, and perhaps let them use mercenary Haradrim for something extra.

I run an Angmar army based on Carn Dum warband. It is a bit monotype (aside from their allied arty), but historically, warband armies were pretty monotype. You still get an interesting game due to the way heroes work in this rules-set.

Kroot Lord
26-07-2010, 20:59
Xelee, what models are you using for your Carn Dum? Rohan? Dunledings? Wild Men of Dunland?

Xelee
27-07-2010, 04:50
Gripping Beast plastic Vikings.

If it's not in the movies, I'm personally pretty happy to go with historicals, since they are a lot closer to how Tolkien described things.

rodmillard
21-08-2010, 15:08
I already had forces for Haraddrim and Easterlings for the SBG, so for me it was just a case of tweaking unit sizes to get a WOTR legal force! I am now in the process of expanding it (the plastic Morghul Knights led by the Mouth of Sauron will be doing double duty as blood knights and a vampire lord respectively in WFB).

That said, while the combined approach works very well (the synergy you get between the different units, especially when you start adding in the appropriate Nazgul, is great) there is a danger in trying to combine too much into one force. Simply put, the more elements you try to combine the smaller and more specialised individual units become. Its a tricky balance, and depends very much on your playstyle and that of your opponent, but I find that if you have more than 3 distinct elements (4 at a push if you are using both Haraddrim and Far Harad as two of the forces) then your army starts to fall apart visually and on the gaming table.

Chrombar
23-08-2010, 17:03
though I'm not so well known with WOTR I noticed the half trolls of far harad and the kandish chariots are prety popular in combined armies

Imperium Ordo Malleus
04-09-2010, 21:44
I have just started w.o.t.r, after playing an intro game at my local gw i decided on fallen realms, i plan on my core force being a mix of those listed below

Easterling Infantry and Archer cohorts
Haradrim Raider Warbands
Morgul Knight Regiments

I already have plenty of easterlings and some morgul knights, i also plan on adding mumaks, and possibly a few companys of Haradrim Warbands. I have chosen Khamul to lead my force and amadding Amdur aswell. Maybe in the future corsairs and dalamyr. Although when i have painted enough to start playing larger games im sure it will all change :D

Avatar of the Eldar
05-09-2010, 04:24
I wanted to try mono-armies of all the forces in small points (eg 1000 each), then combine them for a coalition in larger games.

This is exactly what I've done, more or less. Starting with a core of Easterlings. One unit of Khand cav plus a couple chariots and one big block of Khandish foot (Old Glory Turks that are priced very reasonably). One big block of Haradrim foot, a big unit of Haradrim Raiders, Mumak, one unit of Mahud, one of half-trolls and one of Camel Jockeys and, finally a unit of Corsairs and one of Arbalesters.

This whole force started simply as cavalry auxiliaries for my larger Mordor to keep as described in the books.

I like the sampler platter approach.


but I find that if you have more than 3 distinct elements (4 at a push if you are using both Haraddrim and Far Harad as two of the forces) then your army starts to fall apart visually and on the gaming table.

I understand where you're coming from but think it depends on how they're painted. I have some dark red running throughout all contingents, even Corsairs (accent color only).

Pitalla Crimson
21-09-2010, 03:21
Yes, I am thinking on adding morgul Knights to my Easterling force. Altough I am still wishing for Easterling chariots :(
I do have some haradrim aswell altough, they are very vulnerable, and the axemen of Khand never kill anything :(

AlphariusOmegon20
29-09-2010, 14:55
I have just started w.o.t.r, after playing an intro game at my local gw i decided on fallen realms, i plan on my core force being a mix of those listed below

Easterling Infantry and Archer cohorts
Haradrim Raider Warbands
Morgul Knight Regiments

I already have plenty of easterlings and some morgul knights, i also plan on adding mumaks, and possibly a few companys of Haradrim Warbands. I have chosen Khamul to lead my force and amadding Amdur aswell. Maybe in the future corsairs and dalamyr. Although when i have painted enough to start playing larger games im sure it will all change :D

The Betrayer is also quite useful and very fluffy.