View Full Version : If Warhammer Dies...

29-12-2010, 22:14
So if the world as we know it came to an end and there were no new updates or models released. Assuming it were still easily possible to buy the stuff that is already for sale, how long do you think you'd continue to collect paint and play 40k?

29-12-2010, 22:18
The community is too strong. If another company didn't pick up the hobby, the gamers themselves would carry it.

Fandex becomes the real thing, old GW models are molded and recast, and those gifted in greenstuff would fill in the rest.

So I think I would keep going for a long time.

29-12-2010, 22:21
I would continue as long as I find players to play with :)

29-12-2010, 22:22
five-ish. I don't know, I just go with the flow and don't think about it.

29-12-2010, 22:22
I'd keep using the models and books I have, and pick up more as I could. I'd keep the faith.

29-12-2010, 22:28
i'd ask the mech warrior clix players how they got through it and then follow the same method

29-12-2010, 22:32
As long as there is a playgroup out there, I'd be playing. I'm pretty sure even if GW goes bottoms up, another company will snag the IP and continue it, even if they don't continue the models.

29-12-2010, 22:43
I said a year or so. I just don't think I could do it with absolutely no support. That being said, I don't think it's even a remote possibility. Even if GW dropped it (which they wouldn't, it's where most of their $$$ come from), it would be ludicrous for someone else to not pick up the IP.

29-12-2010, 22:49
I'd continue as long as I could, as long as I could afford the OOP models or find suitable proxies and the opponents to play against. I've played games that have gone out of production before now and still do (heck, I've seen Ravenloft die at least twice and the fan community keeps getting stronger and stronger with the netbooks produced for it. And then there's Justifiers and I still play that!).

29-12-2010, 22:59
i'd keep going, I still play Mageknight, Horrorclix and Mech Warrior clix afterall,

I'd imagine the fanbase would keep it going until the IP eventually got picked up by someone else. and hey, the fans actually COULD support it without paranoia that GW lawyers would go after them!

29-12-2010, 23:01
I'd keep mine for a while, but I don't have the heart in me to see my 40k models on a shelf gathering dust as I found some models on my grandfather's shelf years ago.

probably wait until the models get to the price parity of the dreaded squats and then make a tidy profit selling them off.

29-12-2010, 23:02
Until they prize my minis from my cold, dead hands. I'm in too deep to ever surface.

I still play a variety of Specialist Games, and even Warhammer Quest, and there is support out there for all of 'em. I'm sure I could probably dredge up a copy of Oi! Dat's My Leg! if I really needed to.

The hobby will survive in some form or other even after nuclear devastation scours most of the planet's life from the scarred surface of the planet. I'll still be huddled out in the desolation, pitting my Boyz against the giant mutant cockroaches and their tyranids.

29-12-2010, 23:39
The only reason I still care about 40k is because of the promise of plastic Sisters of Battle. Get rid of that, and I'm out of here.

29-12-2010, 23:52
Seeing as i purposely play 40k from the 80s only and dont give a stuff about any new stuff thats come out for the last five years i'd say i'd continue indefinitily...

In fact the beauty of selecting a 'retro' timescale to play in is that you dont have to worry about some monkey making your entire army 'non legal' and obsolete in the stroke of a pen - cos its already all obsolete.

30-12-2010, 01:07
I would play as much as I could, just like I play my favorite R.I.P. Games: Vor, Confrontation 3.0, Warzone, Star Wars Minis... if I can find an opponent, I will play the game. However, failing that, I always have my Historicals to fall back on. I have a Napoleonics itch that I need to scratch...

30-12-2010, 01:09
I have a Napoleonics itch that I need to scratch...

Good man, I sorely regret getting rid of my penisular/napoleonic French army (mainly due to it taking up *boxes* and noone else playing that period around me).

30-12-2010, 01:14
If you have the rules and the models, there is no reason why you couldn't continue playing until you both tire of it.

I seriously doubt I'll still be playing 40k in 5 years, whether or not GW take a dive. It's had 20+ years already and there are other rulesets out there which don't care whose miniatures I use in the games.

30-12-2010, 01:20
For me, never, they cost too much to throw away, and too personal to leave on a shelf to collect dust...

30-12-2010, 01:26
I didn't say anything about throwing them away.
They'll get used in other games or they'll go into storage. Nothing more.

The idea that the game ceased to be as soon as the company goes away is a strange one. You still have the rules and models - they don't disappear into purgatory along with the company.

30-12-2010, 01:59
I only play sporadically anymore anyway, mostly I am in it for the modeling and painting. I would probably do the odd conversion here and there, maybe run a campaign or two with my friends.

Then again, if GW took a dive then the balance might actually improve. I mean if everyone is a potential playtester I bet we could sort out some of the points and rules ridiculousness.

Born Again
30-12-2010, 02:04
Obviously getting new stuff becomes an issue, but with the stuff I already have, I'd keep playing as long as I have someone to play against.

30-12-2010, 02:09
I didn't say anything about throwing them away.
They'll get used in other games or they'll go into storage. Nothing more.

The idea that the game ceased to be as soon as the company goes away is a strange one. You still have the rules and models - they don't disappear into purgatory along with the company.

It's probably due to the consumerist mentality GW has promoted. They're only concerned with selling the product and keep 'enthusiasm' by continually releasing new product.

Without that rush of 'new stuff' flooding through consumers, many probably would stop playing as there's nothing to 'look forward to'.


30-12-2010, 02:47
Well I'm just getting back into the 40k side of things after a long absence. I'd probably play for a year or two and then move on to something else for another 10 years before coming back to it, only to discover no one else is playing anymore.

30-12-2010, 05:01
I barely play it now. However, without support, and only the people who really love the game still playing, it might be a very good situation to be in, as a guy who plays for fun.

30-12-2010, 05:26
Wouldnt make much difference to me to be honest. It would suck to never have new models ever again, but then my favourite game was Epic....so it's nothing I havent experienced before.

30-12-2010, 07:55
The 40k I bought into "died" many years ago,(2nd box) and it doesnt matter too much-its all still there.

In the past year and a half Ive amassed 6000 pts of Orks from that period over the internet some 15 or so years after they stopped being sold in stores-it was a challenge hunting down all the arms and close combat weapons etc etc but pretty much anything I wanted was available on the big EB.

PS eternal thanks to THE WARHAMMER TRADER for supplying many of the showpiece miniatures!

Couldnt let that post go without a mention-great stuff.

bert n ernie
30-12-2010, 10:12
I'd probably be more enthused. I sitll like going to tournaments to play warhammer, but that's in part because there's no other game with regular tournaments in my area.
However I don't see the current game as that great, and I struggle to bring myself to play 40k sometimes.

I think I'd like both games better if it was fan supported. As it is I'm branching out as I know there's better stuff out there.

Ster Bear8
30-12-2010, 10:18
It will be too hard for the game to die as the fanbase is huge....
i however would probably stop after 3-4 years as i adore the new stuff that comes out and the releases of new models

30-12-2010, 11:46
not sure how long id go, I personally play casually with some friends, and am trying to finish painting my models so I can concentrate on making epic looking models without thinking about that unpainted warp spider.

I do live close enough to one of those local feeling shops, not one thats local but one with nice people in it, once the guy at the counter offered to help me with painting black reach set which I had bought, and I learnt a few tricks and things from that experience so its all good.

30-12-2010, 14:58
anybody know if the metal models have enough lead in them to be used as base for musket balls? (ala 'The Patriot')

if so, all my kasrkins are going to have a noble second life after the world ends. :p

30-12-2010, 19:43
My "army" was dead in the water with out updates for over 10 years, so I think I have proof I would stick with this game as long as I can find players. (and even then I would still keep the models after I couldn't find other players).

Forever and ever!

30-12-2010, 21:01
I suppose I'd have to either integrate myself back into society or commit suicide...

30-12-2010, 21:02
anybody know if the metal models have enough lead in them to be used as base for musket balls? (ala 'The Patriot')I may be mistaken, but I didn't think they had any lead in them these days (with "these days" being the last decade and a half or so).


31-12-2010, 00:58
If I can just re-phrase the question....

"If Hasbro bought GW, and Space Marines fell in love, how long would you carry on?"

Till the next Sci-fi wargame came through my letterbox!

(Allready use Space Marines, Nids and Eldar for Star-Grunt and Futurewar Commander)

02-01-2011, 12:39
Suppose GW is dissolved by its creditors tomorrow. The assets of the company don't simply go "poof", they are recycled by the capitalist economy. Someone will buy the rights to the figures (just as Reaper bought the Clan War figures from AEG), someone will buy the IP (just as Warzone was bought from the ruins of Excelsior).

If there is money to be made, and given the size of the fan base there is, then the new owners of the IP will continue to pursue the market to make it. The only difference is instead of GW, the fans will be dealing the XYZ Games. Who knows, a change in ownership may be for the best.

Besides, most of the GW range would work as well in other rules sets. Stargrunt II in particular loans itself very well to using anyone's figures. Other game companies will be quick to capitalize on the new market of orphan GW enthusiasts, they will add factions to their games to allow something analogous to Space Marines, Human Infantry, Space Bugs, Mystic Space Warriors, Evil Space Pirates, Brutally Cunning Low Tech Aliens, and other GW-esque goodness to their games to pull in as much of the new audience as they can - they will, of course, make some new "must have" units to make the effort worthwhile and pick up some new sales of rules sets.

My primary army is Imperial Guard, regular human grunts with rifles are pretty much a part of any Sci-Fi setting, so even without GW, I would have lots of options. Personally, I am fond of Stargrunt II

02-01-2011, 13:23
id just jump ship to privateer press :D

That said, if gw went under, so long as whoever buys the rights to the 40kiverse keeps the game as is, i'll be happy. i dont want to see the grim darkness changing, and seeing female space marines, chaos grey knights, cc tau and so on... 40k is 40k. i dont mind who makes it, so long as they show respect to the universe.

02-01-2011, 14:22
The models that are our now are fine and can be used for conversions. As for updates I've always been positive to making house-rules and tweaking.

02-01-2011, 23:53
I would continue playing until the game gets stagnant, which probably would be 2-3 years down the line.

03-01-2011, 09:09
Hi all.
I suppose the range of oppinion is so wide, depending on how you define a game of 40k.

If its a game set in the 40k background irrespective of what minatures or rule set is used , then for ever and ever...

If its using current rules , then a year or so.


Lord Solar Plexus
03-01-2011, 21:14
A year? Not even a month. An unsupported game is a crappy game.

03-01-2011, 22:08
you'd really give up in a month if there were no support Solar Plexus? What do you do when there's a fantasy or lord of the rings month? Give up till the next release?