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Getifa Ubazza
15-02-2011, 21:34
I know we have threads like this quite often, But wanted your opinion on those long ago great models. That one model you remember as legendary. No matter what GW bring out to replace it, it still stands proud on your battleline. This was inspired by my last thread about the scale of all the differant Giants GW have made. Here is my favourite that just can't be beat.

I first saw the Marauder Giant http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af166/getifa/c9431marmb7giant-01.jpg in the pages of WD away back when I started in the hobby. I remember thinking that although it was a nice model, it wasn't that great. Over the years though, GW have released many Giants. Yet for whatever reason, they just didn't have the presence of The Marauder. He looked like a giant. Everything about him just oozed physical power. At the time he came out I was into Vampires and Tanks with big huge guns, But now that I am older, the only model from my past that has stayed in my mind, the one model that no matter what GW bring out to replace it. The Marauder Giant is that model that I circled with a pen in WD all those years ago and still wan't today. I finally got him today and he was so worth the wait. I can't honestly say that about any other model ever.

I would like to say sorry to The Marauder Giant for being distracted by the beauty of Vampires and the big guns of the Imperial Guard, while he stood strong before all comers to this very day, when I finally realised that not everything beautiful is also graceful and not everything big has to be a gun.

So if you were to pick a model or group of models to put into a hall of fame, that also stands up today against all others of its kind, what would it be?

This model or group of models doesn't have to be OOP, But it has to have stood the test of time for at least a few years.

Captainbastard
15-02-2011, 21:44
I am a big fan of all the original NG models, such as the old gnarly squig hoppers and netters, but also the metal night goblins themselves.

Also the old halfling hotpot and the Empire war wagon. Both great empire models from the past.

BorderKing
15-02-2011, 21:47
Apart from loving Ruglud (new version), I quite like these :
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/ms4ogrehero.htm
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm41ogres.htm

They form the core of my ogre army and are pretty awesome.

snottlebocket
15-02-2011, 21:50
Pretty much the whole early 90s range of chaos heroes on foot. Non of that generic spiky armor crudd but a horde of mutated abominations the likes of which chaos has never seen again.

The empire also had a lot of great models. The foot wizards for the various colleges, certain artillery crew, the hotpot, the war wagon and the imperial ogres.

The same goes for a lot of the 4th edition dwarves. Big noses, great beards, civilian clothes and a ton of character.

Even if some of the sculpting is no longer up to par with today, a lot of these models are just oozing character of a kind today's models simply lack. Lots of these models were more than rank and file, they had personality.

rb.uhs
15-02-2011, 21:56
The Green Knight.

'Nuff said.

Morkash
15-02-2011, 21:59
When i started, there was the shift from 5th to 6th edition, it is a pity, but I'm far too young for the old models...wihch doesn't mean I do not like them, not at all!
As said in your other thread, my overall favourite definately is the Marauder giant. The old Marauder Dwarf range was awesome as well, not many armies look better in my eyes than Bill King's dwarves in the 4th O&G armybook!
Other beauties, which I even own are:
Marauder Chimera: http://solegends.com/marauder/mm44chimera.htm
Citadel Leadbelcher: http://solegends.com/citmd/md03leadbelcher.htm

Lastly, the GS2000 Black Orc Boss is the best O&G hero in my eyes...shame, that he is so expensive nowadays: http://solegends.com/citle/citle2000/GamesDay/gd2000BlackOrcBoss.htm

jimbo2
15-02-2011, 22:00
A Marauder one from me too:

http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mb17elfdragon.htm

A proper dragon, not like these snake things Citadel seems to like to do.

Lars Porsenna
15-02-2011, 22:14
Personally I like the Norse Dwarfs from the late '80s:

http://www.solegends.com/citcat88/0301dwfwarriors.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcat88/0302dwfwarriors.htm

Also the original Bloodletters:

http://www.solegends.com/citcat89/c890225chaosldemons.htm

Damon.

Chadjabdoul
15-02-2011, 22:19
Nice thread.
Not least because I still have two of those Ogres (flail and halberd ones), old metal n.goblins, and the marauder dragon.

I really like 4th edition metal rank and file orcs, goblins and dwarfs.
The old pump wagon was amazing as well. And the gigantic spider ridden by the shaman with the crazy hairdo. (sorry for not providing pictures).
(edit. actually there is a pic of him here - scroll down to see him unpainted)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marauder-Miniatures-Goblin-Shaman-Giant-Spider-1991-/180610876541#ht_887wt_1139

Ironmonger
16-02-2011, 02:22
When i started, there was the shift from 5th to 6th edition, it is a pity, but I'm far too young for the old models...wihch doesn't mean I do not like them, not at all!
As said in your other thread, my overall favourite definately is the Marauder giant. The old Marauder Dwarf range was awesome as well, not many armies look better in my eyes than Bill King's dwarves in the 4th O&G armybook!
Other beauties, which I even own are:
Marauder Chimera: http://solegends.com/marauder/mm44chimera.htm
Citadel Leadbelcher: http://solegends.com/citmd/md03leadbelcher.htm

Lastly, the GS2000 Black Orc Boss is the best O&G hero in my eyes...shame, that he is so expensive nowadays: http://solegends.com/citle/citle2000/GamesDay/gd2000BlackOrcBoss.htm

Love 'em all. That Chimera is UGH-LEE!:D:cool:

Here ya go: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.zharr-naggrund.poderna.com/zn/tmp/Compendio/Imagenes/Personajes/Referencias/RefCOMGW5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D8863%26pid%3D151699&usg=__-fpsbnVePbuStEmIcOIpQ0y7DgA=&h=362&w=806&sz=36&hl=en&start=4&sig2=u-iFqGC35If0EeyJcSfzbg&zoom=1&tbnid=BsY-CmCnwLGZ2M:&tbnh=64&tbnw=143&ei=fzRbTYLvN5S_gQf7hp3iDQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dastragoth%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client %3Dsafari%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1285%26bih%3 D663%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
Awful, but so much character! Now, should I ruin him by kitbash with Thraka or no?

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
16-02-2011, 02:33
This old orc shaman is pretty much my favorite miniature of all time. He's just so menacing and evil looking, without all the waving his arms around or having his mouth open screaming at you. I love him so much I bought the bigger FW resin model of him off of eBay for around $75, even though I was nearly broke at the time.

Gekiganger
16-02-2011, 05:11
All of the old skaven special characters, bar thanquol. The new sculpts are better technically, but I can't say I like them as much. They're all either fat and / or full of flat edges that make them look cartoony.

Not that it stops me buying them.

ftayl5
16-02-2011, 05:27
Old seekers of Slaanesh, I don't have any, but if I did, I would be playing Daemons right now.

Lavieth
16-02-2011, 05:39
For me its the unit that I first purchased. The 5th edition silver helms! Evennow I am still trying to find them. I really would like to have 15 more. The plastic ones just dont live up to the older ones.

My fingers are crossed that the trend continues and they will get re-done sometime down the road to look like those beauties from 5th edition.

Lord of Divine Slaughter
16-02-2011, 06:09
This little guy really caught my fancy at the time, and when I started out my woodies 20 years later, he was my #1 priority to get a hold of :)

Laurela
16-02-2011, 06:36
The 4th? edition Slann with the temple guard holding him up. And the old War Wagon

Chiron
16-02-2011, 07:03
Marauder Dwarves, I have a unit of them as handgunners in my Empire army and they work so nicely as models I cant even consider chucking em.

They were somewhat unique and had there own flavour instead of being the standard viking/scottish generic ones of today

Flogger
16-02-2011, 07:03
5th edition squig hoppers were brilliant, but I think my price goes to 4th edition Wyvern, not the rider but the wyvern itself. This one:

http://79.170.40.166/lost-gamers.co.uk/images/stories/ebay_auctions/wyvern/gallery/wyvern_003.jpg

http://www.collectibles-articles.com/antique/collectible-image-large/orc-war-wyvern-w-shaman-warhammer-fantasy-marauder_170589765446.jpg


I have a goblin riding that one in my army, it's so small and cute!

nanktank
16-02-2011, 07:04
Im a big fan of the necromancer at the bottom of the page of this link, he also makes a very good death wizard

http://www.solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994050-03.htm

shelfunit.
16-02-2011, 07:13
These guys, because they got me into wargaming...

herohammer
16-02-2011, 08:34
Oh hell...as a collector of citadel miniatures I am really going to have to try to limit myself here.

The best miniature range GW has ever done:

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Hobgoblins_-_C36_%28solid_Base%29

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/dl2hobgoblins.htm

EDIT-I forgot someone had a painted set up on solegends (there are more than in the link below too in one of the user galleries)

http://www.sodemons.com/dhurst/dhhobgoblins/hobgoblinsdl2/index.htm

The mid 80s Japanese style Hobgoblins. Good quality casting. Great sculpts. Tons of personality and many of them, particularly the Ally Morrison ones from the deluxe box set have great poses. The shaman with a skull is a contender for best warhammer model ever in my opinion. (the example on ccm wiki is a pretty beaten up, I have one in better shape. It has more detail than it looks like in that image.)

Tom Mier Troglodytes:

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/cp3troglodytes.htm

They are big (40mm bases are needed for these guys) badass and have a good variety of dynamic poses. I use 8 of these guys as Ironguts for my Fimir counts-as Ogres army. The "Dwellers Below" are the bodyguards for my Fimir high-king.

Speaking of Fimir:

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c25fimir.htm

Yeah, I know the scale is "wrong" with how the Fimir rules were done for 3rd edition but even the limited edition fimir and the heroquest fimir barely fit onn 25mm bases and I feel that the fimir would blend in too much with Orks and Lizardmen as just another slightly larger than man sized army of green guys at that size.

These are just great models though, particularly the meargh. They actually work very well with the slightly smaller plastic heroquest fimir if one uses the heroquest fimir as basic troops and the metal guys for characters as they are not much taller but simply have more girth and longer tails than the plastics. I guess that I will need to upload some pictures of my fimir army once I finish painting my "bulls" horde.

The best gorger model ever:

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c23mutantogre.htm

Plus it's supposedly rare! (mine has eaten 18 saurus in one game before without taking a wound nomnomnom)

More LOTR than WH...best ringwraith ever (and due to LOTR's smaller scale, the right size to use):

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/0/09/FFimage4a.jpg

Another great model from the FF range, the first ogre made by Citadel:

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/4/4b/FFimage91.jpg

He just looks like he is going ape. Super tiny and doesn't look anything like today's ogres but he makes up for it in sheer ferocity. I run him as a bruiser in my fimir army. They are from Albion so it makes sense for them to bring Grendel along to fight :)

Assorted cool goblins (all of these guys look better in person unfortunately, not great pictures and/or examples of each)

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/d/d8/FTG5.jpg
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/6/60/FFimage35.jpg
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/b/bd/FFimage40.jpg
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/9/9a/FFimage41.jpg

The pre-goat beastmen; some great figures and some trash but much lulz.

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Chaos_Beastmen_-_C38_%28solid_base%29

Someday I will make a naga army...

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c27snakemen.htm

BeatTheBeat
16-02-2011, 08:42
Daemonettes are the obvious example, I suppose. But I think the peak of GW was the DE metal range released alongside the 6th/7th (can't remember...) ed army book. The Executioners, Witch Elves, and especially Black Guard I can't see being beat by new DE models, ever.

Oh, and the old Savage Orc range, of course :D

Cheers,
BTB

BurnTheMonkey
16-02-2011, 08:51
1st hero model i ever bought: Classic Ikit Claw. I like the new one as well, but its just not as commanding as the classic model...

Col. Frost
16-02-2011, 09:11
My favourite figures were purchased many moons ago in two blister packs, I have not yet been able to locate them on Solegends or similar sites except one figure. But a mystery surrounds it. The model in question is top row, far right http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Fighters_-_Brigands.

The mystery is this. My version of this model has the word 'Retainer' on its base along with the other six miniatures, not 'Brigand'. I love this range and these guys will be forming the core of a future army i have planned, its just trying to find out exactly what they were called.

herohammer
16-02-2011, 09:25
My favourite figures were purchased many moons ago in two blister packs, I have not yet been able to locate them on Solegends or similar sites except one figure. But a mystery surrounds it. The model in question is top row, far right http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Fighters_-_Brigands.

The mystery is this. My version of this model has the word 'Retainer' on its base along with the other six miniatures, not 'Brigand'. I love this range and these guys will be forming the core of a future army i have planned, its just trying to find out exactly what they were called.If the medieval historical range was still in production in 1985 I think that it is probable that some figures doubled up from the RPG/fantasy range into the historical range. Unfortunately I have never been able to find a website that does a good job of documenting citadel's early historical ranges; I have been thinking of hunting down one of the Byzantine cavalry figures to give to one of my college professors who studies Byzantine Art.

There are so many random variants of the early Citadel stuff. One of the 2 Tom Mier Troglodytes that I got out of a (produced under Citadel license) Ral Partha blister was a variant version of the figure that I haven't been able to find myself. People really need to get to work filling the gaps in Solegends and CCM wiki :)

Lars Porsenna
16-02-2011, 15:08
The old GW Historical ranges were great. I have a few old White Dwarfs where they are advertised. Sometime in the mid-to-late '80s GW divested itself from the historicals market, concentrating only on Fantasy-SF. A few molds were sold off to form the initial offerings from Foundry (in particular the old Norman range, Viking range, War of the Roses range). A few figures from GW's Hundred Years War range and Feudals range made it over to foundry, but the bulk did not. Many of the latter figures were used in the Bretonnian range before 5th Edition. This was one of GW's best ranges IMHO, and one I miss very much. Several of the foot knights figures were actually modelled directly off of funerary brasses of the era. While the 5th edition range was alright (primarily with infantry figures -- the commands and a few of the foot figures still get use from me in Hundred years War armies -- though the knights went right off the rails), the current bretonnians just went completely gonzo. Periodically I trawl ebay for for Citadel's 1st generation Bretonnians...great figures and sorely missed...

Damon.

Captainbastard
16-02-2011, 15:41
I have the old doomwheel at home. It is much better than the new one, although very well used and chipped now. Actually most of the old skaven minis are inferior to the old orc and goblin minis, but the doomwheel was fantastic. I think the bast ranges are the old brettonians, the old Empre and the old Orcs and Goblins from 4th edition.

Lord of Divine Slaughter
16-02-2011, 17:57
I remember drooling over these:

http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mb10chaosthugreg.htm

Captainbastard
16-02-2011, 18:06
I remember drooling over these:

http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mb10chaosthugreg.htm

I don't see why they got rid of chaos thugs. They are much better than Marauders in every way. I don't really like the viking feel to the new WOC army and think the thuggish feel was much better.