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Lady Bastet
08-06-2005, 16:47
I am sure any of you who have checked out “the Future of Portent” will know that Nick is requesting article submissions.

Well I had an idea as to one all Fantasy players could participate in.

The sheer versatility of the Regiment boxed sets- something I feel would be useful to all players.

When suggesting a new conversion option- state the boxed set or sets you are using, any extra parts added and if possible any pictures you have.

Discount Black Orcs-

Boxed set used- Orc Boyz (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120209001&orignav=13)

Additional Parts- Black Orc Heads (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020911506&orignav=13)

Optional Parts- Ork Ardboyz Shoulder Guards Orc Ardboyz Shoulder Guards (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947010308506&orignav=10)

Advantages this conversion will allow players:
1. An Orc player who has recently converted to using Grimgor’s Ardboyz can turn his existing Orcs into the feared Black Orcs.
2. The metal Black Orcs lack a Choppa and Shield model, using this method the player can convert their own.
3. Almost all the Metal Black Orcs appear shorter than their weaker brethren, these can be even taller with a small amount of Green stuff at their mid-section.

Comments? Suggestions? Submissions?

StugMeister
09-06-2005, 08:32
Nice idea for a thread Lady Bastet!

Also, nice clean conversion idea for the Black Orcs. I'll have to try and have a think about conversions to see what I can come up with.

Griefbringer
09-06-2005, 12:31
For Empire, there is lots of conversions you can put together from the plastics available:

1.) Pistoliers: mounted champion legs or slightly cut militia legs, militia bits (heads, bodies and arms), plus plastic horses.
2.) Greatswords: swordsmen with greatsword from militia sprue. Add tassets (tight guards), champion legs, knight bodies and such for the extra armour. Teutogen guard are similar, just use greathammers and hairy heads from White wolf sprue.
3.) Flagellants: mixture of militia and chaos marauder bits, with heads from the White wolf sprue.
4.) Captain on pegasus: Bretonnian pegasus knight mixed with Empire knight bits.
5.) Warrior priest: champion legs, knight body (one with Sigmar motto), arms from White wolf sprue and goatee head from Militia Sprue. For Ulrican, remove Sigmar motto from breastplate, replace hammerhead with axehead, use hairy head from White wolf sprue and add a wolf cloak from the same sprue.
6.) Wizards: not really a conversion, just try to snatch the kit featuring eight plastic wizards that GW re-released lately (originally mid-90's sculpts).
7.) DoW Pikemen: spearmen or halberdiers, with their weapons removed, holes drilled through hands and armed with pikes made out of brass or steel rod.
8.) DoW Duellists: Empire militia, armed as you wish.
9.) Huntsmen: 5th edition plastic Bretonnian archers (dirty cheap second hand) with heads replaced by ones from the White wolf sprue.

Plus for those not into the great plumes and puff look of the normal Empire state soldiers, you can use militia sprue for almost anything: swordsmen (just add shields), halberdiers (use those halberd arms), spearmen (cut the halberds into spears), handgunners (use those blunderbusses). Militia can also be mixed with leftover bits from the artillery sprue to make spare artillery crew (innovative persons should not have trouble building both mortar and great cannon from that kit).

Lady Bastet
09-06-2005, 15:53
6.) Wizards: not really a conversion, just try to snatch the kit featuring eight plastic wizards that GW re-released lately (originally mid-90's sculpts). I have not seen them since the days of Talisman, however I do know how to convert them (suprised? I think not!)

The fastest and most universal way to convert a spellcaster for almost any army is to shorten a standard to the length that it is just a rod, add a cloak or some form of hat.

Also the multi part High Elf Archers are robed in a manner that would suit any human sized wizard http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99380210002&orignav=13

I have an underling who made Rincewind in this fashion.

tzeentchgiant
09-06-2005, 16:47
Good idea Bast (using your nickname already) but I think this would be better suited to P&T, as that is what it is about.

This is very similar to the money saving thread on old portent, which I hope will be resurected from the old server soon, as it was a great thread, worthy of a space inany online magazine.

TG

Lady Bastet
10-06-2005, 13:29
Thank you, it was one of my more random ideas I felt like taking somewhere-

Skaven Storm Vermin-

Boxed Sets used- Skaven Clan Rats (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120206001&orignav=13)

Optional components- Skaven Warlord Head (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020604902&orignav=301116)

Good perpetration is the key to converting the Storm Vermin

Skaven Halbards are very similar to their spears in appearance, this can work in the player’s favour, however when picking which of the spears to use they should ensure all those they pick have a cutting edge in addition to the pointed tip. The other alternative is to simply use the weapons of Empire Halberdiers or the spears of Dark Elf warriors.

As standard the armour worn by Skaven Clan Rats should not no considered heavy armour- there is however an easy way to “upgrade” it. Simply take one or more of the icons off the shield sprue and place it upon the potential weak points, when painted correctly their armour will be unrecognisable to the Light Armour it once was.

The occasional use of the old Skaven Warlord head will help to emphasise the elite nature of the unit.

Griefbringer
10-06-2005, 13:48
This is very similar to the money saving thread on old portent, which I hope will be resurected from the old server soon, as it was a great thread, worthy of a space inany online magazine.


You mean "Cheapskate ideas"? Now that was a plain wonderful thread - must have been hundreds of really imaginative ideas.

Especially some of the undead conversion ideas were impressive.

Vanwatalath
10-06-2005, 15:18
You mean "Cheapskate ideas"? Now that was a plain wonderful thread - must have been hundreds of really imaginative ideas.

Especially some of the undead conversion ideas were impressive.


Ahh yes those were the days...i remember it got to be a really huge thread :evilgrin:

Adlan
10-06-2005, 16:54
For all the lizard men out there.
Got lots of old saurus models?
got some of the new ones?
got lots of spear arms left?
Just stick the spear arms on the old saurus, looks great and adds new life (and stabbity death) to your army.

Kelroth
10-06-2005, 17:33
Bast, I'm sure I've seen that box more recently than mid-90s. Maybe there's some still kicking around.

In a similar vein to the Black Orcs-

Savage Orcs:

1. Orc boxed set
2. Savage Orc heads

Use as many of the be-skirted Orcs as possible. Don't use the helmeted heads. Try to avoid torsos with anything metal on them such as spikes, and if you absolutely have to use one, file off the metalwork. Use the bare arms and the crudest-looking weapons, and try and clip the axes up to look more like tooth-based picks. Paint all metal details as stone or bone. Use the creature-skull banner.

Griefbringer
10-06-2005, 17:42
Bast, I'm sure I've seen that box more recently than mid-90s. Maybe there's some still kicking around.


Well, GW re-released it about two years or so - I picked up one from games store about 18 months ago. However, apparently those were for sale only on independent stockists, not on GW stores.

Livington
10-06-2005, 17:45
i started warhammer with an orcs and goblins army back in 2001. needless to say, i had no idea what i was doing and i totally screwed up the army. so i went on to start chaos. after the price increases, i tried to figure out how i could expand my mortals army without spending cash. so i looked over at my remaining orcs, and put on my thinking cap.

i started to mix together chaos mutations and random arms and weapons with Orc Boyz and Arrer boyz, and the results were suprising. i came out with 40 chaos orcs that looked damn good, and added a little flareand color to an otherwise mundane chaos army.

mixed in with regular warrior units, or using them as chosen or some sort of deamon worked out well. better than throwing the orcs away. plus it boosetd my army up over the 3000pt mark!

Kelroth
10-06-2005, 18:08
Grief, that sounds about right, I've only seen them twice and both were in independents.

Lady Bastet
12-06-2005, 15:48
If this thread kick-starts a new cheapskate ideas thread then my work here is done.

Metal/Plastic Grail Knights-

Boxed set used- Knights of Bretonnia (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120203003&orignav=13 )

Additional Parts- Grail Knight Torso (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020302707&orignav=9)


Optional Parts- Grail Knight Shields (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020302708&orignav=301116)
Grail Knight Horse Head (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020302709&orignav=301116)

If you look at the parts there is *really* no explanation needed. Simply replace the plastic parts with the metal as appropriate.

Renka
12-06-2005, 17:59
Great idea for a thread! I can't wait for the new Wood Elves to be released and learn how to save some money by using lots of Glade Guards as Wardancers and Eternal Guards.
Great idea!

Griefbringer
12-06-2005, 18:41
Metal/Plastic Grail Knights-

Boxed set used- Knights of Bretonnia (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120203003&orignav=13 )

Additional Parts- Grail Knight Torso (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020302707&orignav=9)


Real cheapskate would stick to the plastic torso, and just make the cloak out of greenstuff/milliput or use the ones from Empire knights boxed set.

In the same vein, questing knights can be made by using various bare heads from the Empire kits, and suitably imposing weapons (two-handed hammer from the Middenheim sprue is a good starter).

Lady Bastet
12-06-2005, 18:46
It was more for the Grail heraldry- I was unable to find an Grail standard top I used at the time in the online store. I am unsure if Games Workshop still produces.

Having said that they may still be viable with the Grail symbol on their shields only.

Commissar Vaughn
23-06-2005, 17:19
why not just use grail transfers on the sheilds? i've got loads of the old ones that i never got round to using and i'm sure you can mail order the new sheets

User Name
23-06-2005, 20:12
I actually did start a cheapskate ideas thread a while back, mabey a month ago, I really missed that thread, it had so much good stuff in it.

Now it seems like we have two threads discussing the same topic, we should combine them into just one so all money saving conversion ideas are in one thread