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Getz
29-05-2006, 17:05
Greetings Getz-fans!

AS followers of my other project logs may be aware, Dakkagor and I are running a huge demonstration match in August at an event held in the Royal Artillery Museum in London.

Problem is, we don't have the 6x8 table to play it on... At least, not until now...

Our mission, if we chose to accept it, to build a modular 6x8 games tables featuring a detailed tranch network in only four days!

Could we do it? Well lets see...

Day one in the Big Board House.

First of all, a quick idea of what we're actually buildng. The 6x8 area will be made up of four 4x3 modular boards, two featuring the trench network and two ith generic, open terrain. The Trench network tables will be usuable asa distict 6x4 table in their own right, as will the other two tables.

This is is a picture of Dakkagor squatting on front of some of the raw materials... as you can see, he's quite a handsome chap :eyebrows: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0233.jpg)

We went to the trouble of buying the basis of the job last week, in the form of the MDF and Expanded Polystyrene sheet but we still needed to go out and buy additional raw materials in the form of Glue, Polyfilla (Spackle in the US, I believe) Brown paint and Gaffer Tape for the board edges. This reqired a trip to the local B&Q (a DIY superstore, for the non-British). However, when we got back we discovered we'd locked ourselves out - forcing us to go to the cinema for three hours to watch X Men 3 until my brother got home from work and let us in... :rolleyes:

Our starting point is four pre-cut sheets of 15mm MDF. This was the single most expensive purchase of the project, costing us 35 for the lot (including the off cuts which we intend to make a 4x4 cityfight board out of at some later date).

Onto this, we stuck a 50mm layer of EPS. The EPS came in 8x2 sheets so we had to buy three and cut them. This is me, cutting up polystyrene... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0239.jpg)

The EPS sheet was stuck into place using Impact adhesive of a quick and firm bond... Here is Dakkagor and myself applying the adhesive (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0234.jpg) and this pretty young thing is Dakkagor's Girlfriend, (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0235.jpg) who took some of the pictures and helped us out with the gluing.

This is where we ran into our first problems, the EPS wasn't quite wide enough to cover the entire board, so we had to use some strip I'd been carefully hording to fill the gap, leaving us with three boards that looked a little like this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0237.jpg)...

Then we did the last board... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0240.jpg)

The material losses from cutting the EPS had been greater than we'd estimated and we were left with this particular yawning chasm... Once again, the gap was filled with polystyrene sheet horded for bunker and hill building, and even then there was a still a big hole - as evidenced buy this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0241.jpg).

Final task of the day was tidying up the edges of the table with a hot wire cutter (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0243.jpg) and finishing the edges with Black Gaffer tape... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0236.jpg)

Neknoh
29-05-2006, 17:13
Looking good so far, however, why not simply make that "problematic" hole into a natural ditch or some form of waste disposal/canal instead?

Dakkagor
29-05-2006, 17:28
Day two in the big board house

(that jokes going to get old quick)

Arriving 40 minutes early, I kicked Getz out of bed and, after a quick fry up (a running theme, check the material list) we got back to work. To start, we started using eps blocks to set a hill into one of the open field boards, and used some very aggresive sanding paper to create a lake.

lake sanding (hill in background) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0244.jpg)

(its worth noting this process is really messy. Really, really, messy. Like, so messy you wouldn't beleive it. I'm going to be coughing up white crap all week)

We also polyfillered (or spackled) the boards to give it a smoother and more even finish, and plugged the yawning chasm we where left with on day one, with eps block we had scrounged previously. After liberal doses of polyfiller and pva glue, we had a cup of tea and a sit down. (see materials list).

After that, we started work on the unique feature of two of the boards: trench works! After measuring out the fortifications zone (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0245.jpg) we marked out the rough outlines of the trenches using black marker pen. I left Getz to do this bit, as he seemed to know what he was doing. ( :rolleyes: ) the initial trench layout. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0246.jpg) The second board has a mirror of the layout.
Board one has a sally, a tank scrape (or so I am told, looks like a hole to me) and a bunker. Board two does not have a sally, but has a hill and emplacement in the centre instead. Both trench sections can be butted up to one another in two different ways, providing different terrain layouts. (and the potential to play some cool trench raid games, by putting both no mans land sections in the middle)
Cutting the trenches out was even more messy, but did yield a ready supply of rubble to be used in creating breastworks laterone, and other future projects. Its all so white. . . (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0249.jpg)
bunker wip on board one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0248.jpg)
board two with eps and polyfiller hill (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0250.jpg)
two valhallans in their natural enviroment (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Misc%20Utility%20Stuff/DSCN0247.jpg)

On day 3, we tidied up the boards and got a chance to show them off to our roleplaying group. Well impressed, we spent the rest of day roleplaying, a traditional sunday activity round these parts.

Getz
29-05-2006, 18:49
Day four, and the last day of the bank holiday weekend...

Our number one priority today was to get the simple boards as near finished as possible so we can concentrate our efforts over the next few weeks on finishing the more complex trench boards. So, without further ado we headed down to the local greasy spoon cafe for a fry up.

Thus fortified, we took to the lake board with much vigour and sanded some undulations and a little gradient into the EPS surface to make it look a little more naturalistic. We also enlarged the lake slightly. Then we painted the entire surface with PVA glue and spread a mixture of sharp sand and fine gravel across the surface, like so (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0251.jpg).

A half hour tea and biscuit break later we were able to tip up the board and brush off the excess... Here's a picture of Dakkagor admiring the result. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0252.jpg) The incomplete coverage isn't too much of a problem as we intend to put another layer of glue and sand on for a nice, hard-wearing surface.

We then repeated the process with the hill board. I spent a fair amount of time ensuring that the hill was nicely smoothed in and once we had finished with the glue and the sand, this is what we were left with. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0254.jpg) These boards are now going to be left to dry thoroughly before we resand and hopefully paint them next weekend.

At about this time, we realised we didn't have enough sand to do all four boards so we had to take another trip to B&Q (we're averaging one a day at tha moment) to buy sand and polyfilla (our third tub...). Here's Dakkagor reflecting on cost of GW basing sand (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0260.jpg) - this bag cost us 1...

Next we turned to the second trench board. This particular baord has been left befind the other a little while we waited for the glue to dry on some repair work to the trenches, so we needed to get a fair amount of work done to catch up. First of all we used some EPS "rubble" to make up the breastworks on the lip of the second trench line and then we constructed a large hill on the opposite edge of the table. Unfortunately, with most of our EPS strips used up filling holes in the base boards, we were forced to get creative and construct it out of a variety of off cuts. Here is a picture of Mount Offcut as it stands at the moment. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0259.jpg) Obviously I'm going to need to carve the hill into a more realistic shape over the week, but at the moment we're waiting for the glue to cure completely. Tonight I will be able to make up the breastworks and line the trenches with some putty (something I did for the other trench table last night) however this needs to be allowed to dry completely before we can proceed further.

Turning back to our more advanced trench table, we constructed our first bunker. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0257.jpg) Unfortunately, we don't have enough EPS left to build the second, so I'll spend the next week or two on the scrounge... As you can see, we've made the bunkers quite low profile when viewed from the front (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0258.jpg). (don't worry, the bunker is level, but the ground isn't...). The area behind the bunker will probably aquire some stacked ammunition and crates for flavour...

With this done we started gluing in the Duck Boards and planking holding the trenches together. This was done by lining the trench with a thick layer of glue and then adding the boards (fashioned from coffee stirrers) like so (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0253.jpg). The section of trench was then quite literally filled with sand, and once the glue had hardened the excess was removed, leaving us with this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0256.jpg). Here it is with a tank and some soldiers in it (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0255.jpg)... Needless to say, this will be repeated across the entire trench system, but with time running out we've decided to call it a day for this weekend.

So, we haven't finished the job in a long weeked, but then again, we never really thought we would. Nevertheless, we have ripped the heart out of the task, having done the lion's share of the work required for the open tables and made significant progress on the Trench tables. I will be doing a few little jobs in the venings over the course of the week, but the next big push will be next Saturady, when we plan to give the open tables their second coat of sand (and hopefully their first coat of paint) and get as much ofthe detail work in the trenches done as possible.

For those who are interested, this is what the project has cost us so far.

Materials Bought...

4 4x3 15mm MDF boards: 35
3 8x2 50mm Expanded Polystyrene Sheets: 19
2 Rolls of Black Gaffer Tape: 10
3 Tubs of Quick Drying Polyfilla: 21
2 Tins of Solvent Free Contact Adhesive: 11
1 Tub of PVA glue: 6
1 Big Bag of Sharp Sand: 1

Total: 103 (approx)

We also had to buy a miscellany of stuff like Batteries for my Polystyrene cutter, some cheap paint brushes and sandpaper amounting to another 20 or so, but they don't really count.

Stuff we didn't have to buy...

Small bag of Sharp Sand: picked up at a petshop years ago...
Slightly bigger bag of Aquarium Gravel: see above
Lots of Polystyrene bits: assidiously scrounged over the last couple of years
Lots of Coffee Stirrers: pinched from MacDonalds on an almost weekly basis

Other Important statistics...

Number of cups of Tea Consumed: 24 cups (half with sugar)
Number of Biscuits eaten: One packet (Ginger Nuts)
Number of Fry Ups purchased at local Cafe: 6 (one each every day except sunday - because they were closed)
Number of cut fingers: 3 (Getz twice, Dakkagor once)
Number of days in a row Dakkagor wore his NGE T-Shirt: 4
Number of Hawaiian Shirts worn: 1 (by Getz)
Number of times Getz said "That should be everything we need": 4
Number of trips to B&Q to get something we'd forgotton or run out of: 4

Getz
29-05-2006, 19:19
Looking good so far, however, why not simply make that "problematic" hole into a natural ditch or some form of waste disposal/canal instead?

We considered this for a while, but the idea of the two open tables is that they should be generic open spaces for playing WH40K or WHFB on, so we really didn't want anything short of the lake and the hill (obviously we already have trees and buildings and stuff for use on the board) and the hole was just too unnatural a shap to make a decent lake.

Cheatah
29-05-2006, 19:41
Nice report, fun to read.

And the boards look great so far...

Wolf Scout Ewan
29-05-2006, 20:10
Thanks for the enjoyable posts Getz. I like your shirt!

Looking forward to the updates!!

de Selby
29-05-2006, 20:37
Day two in the big board house

(that jokes going to get old quick)


Looks like you got board of it by day three...

Fun reports (keep monitoring those tea consumption levels), but a bit difficult to get an idea of what the whole thing is supposed to look like when put together... all the photos seem to be of specific items or moments during construction... unless I missed something.

Keep up the good work!

Hortwerth
29-05-2006, 21:24
The no-man's land should have a fair number of craters with stinky water etc. To keep the table quite generic you could make some of them normally (on individual bases, rearrangeable), but you really shoud do 2-3 larger ones fixed, spaced so that they don't influence the play on their own too much.

You have put the EPS to a good use with the trenches (Hope at least 45mm wide), now put some craters on!

TKitch
29-05-2006, 21:38
nice work guys :)

I got bored (on a holiday today, too!)

And started a new board. 4x4. Getting lots of work done in a day feels so good, doesn't it? :)

Getz
29-05-2006, 23:57
Looks like you got board of it by day three...

Fun reports (keep monitoring those tea consumption levels), but a bit difficult to get an idea of what the whole thing is supposed to look like when put together... all the photos seem to be of specific items or moments during construction... unless I missed something.

Keep up the good work!

Ask and you shall recieve... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0262.jpg)

The above is an image of the two Trench boards stood next to one another so you can see the trench layout. Hopefully it will give you a clearer idea of what we're trying to create. The objective to to make a 6x8 plying space with a trench network at one end and open ground extending across therest of the table. The board is for a Battle of Kursk themed tank battle with my Imperial Armoured Company trying to breach the lines while Dakkagors Orks try to stop me.

However, aside from that we're also trying to build a series of modular boards for more general use.

The two plain boards can me used as a generic 6x4 playing surface in conjuction with our movable terrain pieces and the Trench sections are obviously meant to work together for 40k games. We also have plans for 6x2 elements such as a River Crossing and City boundry that we coud make later to extend the scope of the table.


The no-man's land should have a fair number of craters with stinky water etc. To keep the table quite generic you could make some of them normally (on individual bases, rearrangeable), but you really shoud do 2-3 larger ones fixed, spaced so that they don't influence the play on their own too much.

You have put the EPS to a good use with the trenches (Hope at least 45mm wide), now put some craters on!

Craters will be added later, once we're happy with the Trenches. It's a Trench table so we'll cut them straight into the EPS and build them up with a little rubble. The attackers need a little cover to give them a chance in a trench raid scenario (hence the gully and hill in front of the Trenches). I think the Trenches are more like 30-35mm wide - although wider trenches would be more desirable and realistic, the width we've gone for enabledus to crush two defence lines into an 18" deployment zone and still preseve a sense of depth between them. At least, that was my thinking...

old guard
30-05-2006, 05:11
Damn! someone beat me to a 'shirt comment', nice work chaps keep going.

Dakkagor
30-05-2006, 08:35
the boards live in getzs spare bedroom currently. Hopefully, he should be able to do a bit more work on them before I come down this saturday. Expect another big update then.


. . .And started a new board. 4x4. Getting lots of work done in a day feels so good, doesn't it?

Oh yes. Very productive. I suggest it for big projects!


(keep monitoring those tea consumption levels)

I love me tea.

HPD_Andy
30-05-2006, 09:34
Go man, uh wait I mean, GO MEN GO!

Gethalorre
30-05-2006, 13:42
Woo! *Cheers*

It's looking really good so far. Just go into McDonalds and steal all the coffee stirrers and walk out...

(Does Getz always look like Randy fro My Name Is Earl? No offence meant)

Getz
30-05-2006, 14:55
Does Getz always look like Randy fro My Name Is Earl?

Only when I'm weilding a Saw...

ghost hunter
30-05-2006, 20:01
Keep it up guys i like the sand and coffee stirrers in the trenches i will have to try that some time

And as someone said before me watch the tea and biscuits you might spend more on them than the board

Wolf Scout Ewan
30-05-2006, 22:11
Remember kids, stealing is not big or clever unless it involves coffee stirrers from Starbucks, McDonalds or any other overpriced food or beverage purveyors.

Getz
30-05-2006, 22:32
;) And as someone said before me watch the tea and biscuits you might spend more on them than the board

Believe me, without tea and biscuits nothing would have got done...

Don't forget, we're British!

Anyway, a quick update.

This evening I have done three jobs, all relating to trench board two...

First up, Mount Offcut (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0263.jpg) now looks a little bit more like a hill and a little bit less like a wedding cakE. Basically, a combination of carving and filling has given us a basic hill shape. I'll leave it for a couple of days and then sand it smooth and finish it.

Secondly, putty has been applied to build up the breastworks along the second trench line - here's an example from around the Tank Scrape (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0266.jpg). This also needs time to set and then a quick sanding, although in this instance a smooth surface is not absolutely necessary as we are trying to represent freshly turned earth here.

Finally, the hill with the gun emplacement (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0265.jpg) has recieved so attention. The back face of the fill was quite badly damaged when we cut out the trenches, so I've built up a new one...

icebergman
31-05-2006, 08:15
Nice works guys!! What door did you use for the bunker?

Dakkagor
31-05-2006, 08:27
I believe the door comes from a chimera.

Nice to see the hill take shape. Hopefully sanding won't be too much of a problem, considering the amount of glue we used.

firestorm40k
01-06-2006, 08:10
Honestly, you go away for a few days, get lost in exam revision... and someone starts an amazing terrain making project log like this! :rolleyes:

Seriously, this is looking really great Getz & Dakkagor! Cheers for sharing your progress. What's also great about this is that we hope to run Wargaming holiday/conventions from the B&B we're getting in France, so this autumn I'll be making about half-a-dozen gaming boards using this sort of techniques. My fiancee and I were trying to explain to my in-laws (to be) how you make terrain boards, and they looked a bit puzzled - think I'll just show them this thread so they can understand what we'll be doing! :D

Keep up the excellent work! :)

Dakkagor
01-06-2006, 08:22
Wargaming holiday/conventions from the B&B we're getting in France,

Really? I think I've decided where I'm going for my holiday this year!

CaputMortuum
01-06-2006, 11:43
Great progress!
Looking really good already. It's always nice to see another terrain project!!

caput

Getz
01-06-2006, 22:45
A quick update.

I attacked the hill with some sandapaper and have got it into a nice rounded shape, and also have sanded off the breastworks. A messy job, but worth doing before the weekend as it took me all of an hour to do.

I'ver also brushed down the sanded boards and I'm planning on putting the second alyer on tomorrow so that it will be dry by Saturday, at which point Dakkagor and I can paint them...

Easy E
03-06-2006, 02:35
Thanks for all the great pictures as this board develops. It's nice to see someone tackling a project other than City Fight at the moment. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to seeing the finished product.

I'm also looking forward to the battle report of the Big Event, with pics of course.

Getz
04-06-2006, 14:22
Sadly, not much progress has been made this weekend as Dakkagor was unable to come over yesterday, and I spent all of last night puking and ******** my guts out after eating something that didn't agree with me...

However, the Hill table has been completely re-covered with sand and painted. I struck a problem with the sand as Builders sharp sand is more inclined to stick together than the fine sand we had used previously, so I was left with a very "stoney" uneven surface (although on the up side, just as we'd intended, it was rock hard...:rolleyes: ). Fortunately, after about an hours work attacking it with a plastic scraper I was able to get a suitable smooth surface which I then painted with the world's largest tin of Scorched Brown paint (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0261.jpg)(Dulux Rich Havana 1 - in case you are interested)

This is the final result, (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0267.jpg) and an the whole I'm rather pleased, especially seeing as I was afraid the whole board might have been ruined at one point... This board will recieve not further attention until Dakkagor and I have got all of the other three boards base coated. Then it will simple be a case of a Graveyard Earth and Bleached Bone Drybrush followed by static grass

Still learning
05-06-2006, 06:36
Sadly, not much progress has been made this weekend as Dakkagor was unable to come over yesterday, and I spent all of last night puking and ******** my guts out after eating something that didn't agree with me...

thats for thank infomation Getz, just made my day :rolleyes:


are you going to add any trees or other things to the board, i know there is a hill but is just seems to be a big flat?

Getz
05-06-2006, 09:31
Trees and other terrain features will be movable pieces...

Still learning
05-06-2006, 10:03
ahh now thats more like it..

Orcdom
05-06-2006, 21:55
your making this for WHFB as well? are you making sure the gun emplacements hold warmachines as well?

Steve

Great_Destroyer
05-06-2006, 22:10
Arn't you going to be putting snow on it? seeing as you are playing valhallans on it right?

Getz
05-06-2006, 22:24
your making this for WHFB as well? are you making sure the gun emplacements hold warmachines as well?

Steve

Well, the Trench sections are 40K only I guess, but the two "open" boards are meant to be generic.


Arn't you going to be putting snow on it? seeing as you are playing valhallans on it right?

My Valhallans (Dneiprians actually) are painted up in summer uniforms, so this is actually windswept tundra rather than knee deep snow... ;)

Deadleyheadley
05-06-2006, 22:37
Looking good :) cant wait to see it all painted and finished

Orcdom
05-06-2006, 22:44
the trees being removeable, are you doing them on a figure base or would you be interested in doing them with stumps that are permanent witht he option to either use them or not?
if the second, try woodland scenics trees, all kinds of different sizes. if you flock your own to represent a blasted warzone use superglue to flock, not pva.
here is a pic of mine done, and if you go this route recess the bases and make the tops flush, and use a drill with a bit and clean out the hole once done to make them fit easier, and epoxy is best for gluing them down.
i am probly going to go back and lightly drybrush the foliage on the trees a couple duller tones of green.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/orcdom/Mining%20Colony/MiningColony112.jpg
Steve

Getz
05-06-2006, 22:50
The current plan is to attach the trees to old CDs and other large, flat things.

Orcdom
05-06-2006, 23:08
thats cool, but if you cut plasticard to about the diameter of spray paint lid tops those are a good side, and just say the outer perimeter of the trees is the forest.

Steve

Crazy Harborc
06-06-2006, 01:20
You could also use pieces of felt, cut in uneven circles/ egg shapes/etc. You can check at sewing supply stores or wherever. I use "earth colours" of felt, it's cheap.:D Then I place a few trees on the felt.........a forest is born.

Orcdom
06-06-2006, 01:25
not on a custom table, whacks harboric across the head for even thinking it.;) :eyebrows:

Steve

Still learning
11-06-2006, 03:08
c'mon man any updates, i'm on the edge of my seat here.

Tyra_Nid
11-06-2006, 07:40
You could also use pieces of felt, cut in uneven circles/ egg shapes/etc. [. . .] Then I place a few trees on the felt.........a forest is born.

Agreed, this is THE BEST method of forestology Ive found... That way trees can be shifted around very easily to accomodate models, while still retaining perfect shape and looking good too!

TeddyC
11-06-2006, 07:52
must... not.... give in and make my own table....

Realy great looking stuff guys.... keep us psoted

Getz
19-06-2006, 22:25
A bit overdue (I was meant to go up while Warseer was down) but time for an update.

This is the stuff we did last weekend...

First of all, we have finished the detail work on the first Trench boad including sand and duckboards (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0272.jpg). In places we've used plastic I beam (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0276.jpg) to make beefier supports than the Wood...

Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0269.jpg)is a space Marine standing in the narrower Front line Trench, and here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0280.jpg) he is in the second line trench. As you can see, the trenches are quite deep (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0275.jpg)....

A broader overview showing the lovely new Craters (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0270.jpg). The Craters are quite deep too... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0273.jpg)

The second Trench table is still Lagging behind, but as you can see we've added Craters and stuff... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0271.jpg)

I'll put up the pictuers of what we got up to on Saturday up later, once I've uploaded them from my Camera.

MIGHTYPanhead
19-06-2006, 22:48
wow. :eek:

not much to say besides that..

keep it up!

Getz
19-06-2006, 23:14
wow. :eek:

not much to say besides that..

keep it up!

Well hold on to you hat, because it's about to get better...

Saturday's update.

First we built the missing Bunker (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0282.jpg) for trench table two... Once placed in situ it looks like this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0285.jpg).

We've also added some extra craters for that really shelled to **** (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0287.jpg) look...

Then we put sand on the lake table (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0283.jpg)and on the first Trench table (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0284.jpg).

These were allowed to dry thoroughly and are now ready for painting. So ready in fact that I painted the trenches this evening. I will photgraph it tomorrow once the paint is dry...

ShadowHawk
19-06-2006, 23:19
wow! i think you may have inspired me to do a trench table of my own (to go with those new Death Korps models i'm inevitably getting)

Tyra_Nid
19-06-2006, 23:54
Question on Practicality: Are the trenches too deep for the models to see/shoot out of?

Still learning
20-06-2006, 04:52
yeah Getz, now all you need to do is buy death Korps to go with your board.

lol i know which one will be more expesive.

Getz
20-06-2006, 09:52
Question on Practicality: Are the trenches too deep for the models to see/shoot out of?

Not really - A Marine or Guardsman can just peer out of the front trenches and we will treat them as size 1 fortifications irrespective of the height of the model

HPD_Andy
20-06-2006, 11:49
Still great looking stuff. Keep it coming.

Getz
26-06-2006, 20:04
Dakkagor is a smelly, skiving, skint git, so I was working on my own last weekend. I spent most of Saturday painting the first trench board, these are the pictures I took...

The Whole Board... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0298.jpg)

The forward Gun emplacement... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0300.jpg)

The area around the Bunker... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0301.jpg)

Since then I have finished painting the Bunker meaning the table only needs some static grass to be finished. This, however, is a job for later.

I intend to get the two simple boards painted in the next couple of evenings, leabing just the second Trench Board for me and Dakkagor to do over the next couple of Weekends...

Mortare
26-06-2006, 20:15
As a query, what colour are you intending on finishing the terrain as? I looked at the gun emplacement and thought great, like te way you can see the earth through the loose boards, then realised the the majority of the 'earth' is the grey terrain. Just a thought, the work overall is very impressive

Getz
26-06-2006, 20:31
The entire board has been undercoated with Scorched Earth, then drybrushed with Graveyard Earth. Then the stones were picked out in Codex Gray and the planks with snakebite Leather. Finally the whole thing was drybrushed with Bleached bone and Black ink wash was used to tie the wole thing together.

Extremely quick and straightforward, yeilding decent results for not too much effort. However, the table is not yet finished, requiring the addition of Static Grass, which will recieve a final Bleached Bone drybrush to remove the some acidic look of GW grass...

Mortare
26-06-2006, 20:39
Right-o. Just looked a bit grey to me, will wait to see the final picture and see how it turns out

Orcdom
26-06-2006, 20:46
you ought to get the burnt earth static grass from www.woodlandscenics.com it would look good on a war torn battlefield than the toxic waste grass GW has.

Steve

Mortare
26-06-2006, 20:50
Nice stuff, been looking for something similar for my GK bases. You know of any links for similar in the UK?

Orcdom
26-06-2006, 20:53
do they not ship to the UK?
Steve

Getz
26-06-2006, 21:13
you ought to get the burnt earth static grass from www.woodlandscenics.com it would look good on a war torn battlefield than the toxic waste grass GW has.

Steve

To be honest, we're using what we've got, and what we've got is the GW stuff...

But I agree, there is far better Static Grass available if you look for it...

Orcdom
26-06-2006, 23:34
just offering another option incase you hadnt seen it before.

Steve

CaputMortuum
27-06-2006, 16:49
The board's looking good!

GW's static grass looks a bit acidic, but will look just fine after a gentle drybrush of graveyard earth followed by bleached bone.

caput

Getz
29-06-2006, 23:19
Okay, I've finished painting the first board and added the Static Grass... However, rather than subject you to so more-of-the-same pictures, I thought I'd break out some models and stage a little battle scene!

My Valhallan Armoured Company tries to dislodge my Cadian Light Infantry... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0302.jpg)

My Veterans attempt to storm the trenches... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0304.jpg)

Meanwhile a Stormtrooper Squad sallies from the trenches in order to take out a Russ... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0303.jpg)

...and the Comand Sections hangs back around the bunker. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0305.jpg)

Incidentally, that's over 1000 points of Guard models and a Basilisk crammed into those trenches...

Easy E
30-06-2006, 03:17
Looks good. The trench system looks nice and realistic.

On to the next section...this I command!

Steel Fist
01-07-2006, 07:49
Just read the whole log. The Terrain looks great - but as everyone has said give us more pics and quickly! :)

Also what event are you holding at the royal artillery museum?

Creep
02-07-2006, 01:42
Why are the Guard attacking and the Orks holding? That doesn't make any sense >.<

I've got to admit, I love these boards! I think you should lighten it up with a little white to make it look like a light snowfall, because no one ever makes snow tables and it makes me sad!

Getz
04-07-2006, 18:40
Why are the Guard attacking and the Orks holding? That doesn't make any sense >.<

Orks hold ground too you know, and Tank and Mechanised Infantry Companies are generally only employed on the offensive...


I've got to admit, I love these boards! I think you should lighten it up with a little white to make it look like a light snowfall, because no one ever makes snow tables and it makes me sad!

Well, the real problem there is that neither I not Dakkagor have any winter themed armies, hence us not wanting a winter themed table...

Getz
07-08-2006, 18:49
Long overdue, but time for a quick update.

First of all, here are the two finshed tables... Yay! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0326.jpg)

Secondly, here is the second trench table, needing only a light dusting of Static Grass to be finished... Double Yay! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0327.jpg)

And finally, the last table, which needs static grass and the lake filled with water effects (pls the addition of some reeds and stuff at the water's edge if I have time... Yay, Yay and Thrice Yay! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Terrain/DSCN0328.jpg)

Of course, I have to get them all finshed (along with my Armoured Compnay) by sunday.

Which means I really don't have the time to be typing this...

Wolf Scout Ewan
07-08-2006, 19:46
Is that GW water effect? If so u got a long wait!

Orcdom
08-08-2006, 05:58
GW water effects and WS water effects both sux dirt water

Steve

Wolf Scout Ewan
08-08-2006, 15:02
100% agreed Orcdom!

Getz
18-08-2006, 20:48
Okay, the whole thing got finished and used as planned last sunday. Here are some pictures...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Gunsmoke/P1060662.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Gunsmoke/P1060661.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Gunsmoke/P1060658.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Gunsmoke/P1060654.jpg

I have a lot more pictures, but haven't uploaded them all on to Photobucket yet. Anyone who wants to take a look will find them all here... (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Gunsmoke/)

The tables are not entirely finished... We'd like to add some razor wire and sandbags here and there and the pond isn't nearly finished yet. Also, the board suffered a little damage in trasit, but nothing that can't be easily fixed. Either way, it's as good as done for now.

DeathMasterSnikch
18-08-2006, 21:35
Thats one heluva lot of armour...

Anyway, those boards are fantatic, congrats on the work.

Steel Fist
19-08-2006, 06:26
Fanstatic as always Getz.

Must fight urge to rush out and buy tanks. :)

dave is the best
19-08-2006, 08:22
how did yo u make the flammer tank

Wolf Scout Ewan
19-08-2006, 09:18
Lovely board!

Getz
19-08-2006, 09:56
how did yo u make the flammer tank

Like this... (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20450)

Brush your teeth
19-08-2006, 10:18
boards are looking fantastic getz! great work

Crazy Harborc
19-08-2006, 19:40
Well, I clicked, I came, I saw.....AND NOW I want to do a 40K battle! A tank battle actually. The armour was/is lookin' gooood.

Those tables do look good, very good.