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aakurtz
31-05-2006, 22:17
I stopped playing warhammer out of bordom about 3 or 4 weeks after the new dwarfs came out. I figured I'll stop playing for a bit and then come back to it and play with all the new stuff. But here I am all this time later desperately trying to find the new content for WHFB and theres nothing! Not only is there nothing, but they dont have anything planned till late fall/winter. I just wish they would hire a few more guys or maybe use the ones they have to not sit around all day.

Satan
31-05-2006, 22:20
Well, there's 7th ed. coming out late summer, I guess that's what they've been working on...

colhodg
31-05-2006, 22:32
This is a pretty common complaint - the downside of a very established system with a very established company. If you're losing faith can i recommend trying warhammer ancients? You might be suprised at how taking magic out of the equation doesn't make it less fun and there's massive scope for different armies/fluff and background - just look in the library...

i waited 6+ years for the woodelf book and gave up in the mean time but am coming back to fantasy now - it is a great system after all.

dax
31-05-2006, 22:52
Just be glad you don't play any of the specialist games. I cant remember the last time there was anything new for warmaster and the last miniature releases for it where over a year ago and there probably wont be anymore till March 2007!

skavenguy13
31-05-2006, 23:07
It's supposed to give you more time to paint, glue and all, instead of mastering your freshly vamped army.

Are your armies fully assembled, painted and based? No? Then get working on it before the army vamp arrives!

(note that before Skavens will be re-released, I guess I won't even have a full unit painted :o let alone my orcs, which I currently have 2 painted models, both by my brother)

Jedi152
01-06-2006, 08:37
Yep, there's always a dry patch before a new game release - the same happened with 40k V4.

You've already got an enormous range to choose from, i'm sure you can find something to paint.

Scythe
01-06-2006, 08:49
It's supposed to give you more time to paint, glue and all, instead of mastering your freshly vamped army.

Are your armies fully assembled, painted and based? No? Then get working on it before the army vamp arrives!

(note that before Skavens will be re-released, I guess I won't even have a full unit painted :o let alone my orcs, which I currently have 2 painted models, both by my brother)

Tell me about it. If gw released stuff faster, I would probably have even more to paint. Still have large parts of 3 armies waiting for a paint job, along with the building and painting of a 40K city for cityfight.

Avian
01-06-2006, 10:09
I stopped playing warhammer out of bordom about 3 or 4 weeks after the new dwarfs came out. I figured I'll stop playing for a bit and then come back to it and play with all the new stuff. But here I am all this time later desperately trying to find the new content for WHFB and theres nothing! Not only is there nothing, but they dont have anything planned till late fall/winter. I just wish they would hire a few more guys or maybe use the ones they have to not sit around all day.
Take up Hordes for a while, I hear it's great fun. Then write a nice, long letter to GW about how you are much more happy with this new game company which you are giving all your money. :D

Crube
01-06-2006, 10:15
I think GW sometimes work too quickly nowadays...

you get all (well nearly all) the stuff for your shiny new army in a 3 month window, then 3 months to paint it before the next shiny thing comes along to distract me...

I prefered the old way of release some stuff, hten, more later...allowed me to have more projects on the go, and more to look forward to. WD wa a lot more relevant to more people each month too...

ashc
01-06-2006, 10:33
It depends, i mean, in one sense i kind of wish they just cracked on and got all new army books done and then you had a few years of playing bliss.

For me it feels like 7th ed has come round far too quickly!

Ash

aakurtz
01-08-2006, 02:31
Well.. its been a few months... and someone please tell me whats come out. Even between my first post and now nothing has come out. Also, 7th ed has been delayed and isnt coming out at the end of summer. The argument against my complaint has become an arugment for it.

sigur
01-08-2006, 02:42
GW working too slow? Not really. There's a new army book coming every half year along with totally revamped miniature ranges. I wouldn't call that slow. Remember the days when GW went to working really fast? We saw the great results in early 3rd edition 40k. Which definitly was the darkest hour of GW.

I hate to admit it (:p ), but skavenguy's right. Paint your armies, play games, make terrain and so on.

Bingo the Fun Monkey
01-08-2006, 04:30
What does new releases have anything to do with keeping an interest in the hobby? If your army isn't painted, paint it. If it is painted, play games. If you play against the same people, find new opponents. If they're not around, try scenarios, or a campaign, or whatever. GW is not Blizzard. They don't need to patch every other month. Nor are they WOTC, thank god. You could always convert new characters, new unit champions, different units, dogs of war, etc. The only miniature I've bought in the last two years is a special edition dwarf lord. I don't even play dwarfs.

Dr Death
01-08-2006, 08:26
Well i have to agree to a point. GW have slowed their rate of releases drastically. I know that releasing a range takes time and that one shouldnt rely on releases but frankly the recent crawl GW have adopted in their release schedule (a grand total of 4 army books and accompanying ranges in nearly 2 years of 4th ed 40k) is utterly lathargic. 6th ed fantasy got that many army books out in 6 months. Considering they dropped the golden chance to have a "ravening hordes" type booklet for 4th ed, the result with 3rd ed rulebooks stacked alongside the 4th ed varients is a mess.

GW's increasing commercialisation has meant that everything they do is so clinical. The days of charmingly random releases popping up at various intervals are long gone, now you have a 3 month splash and that's it for another 6 months- Goodnight Vienna. Every metal troops range now has a maximum of 4 varients and one command, the entire process is designed to cut down on work in response to the demand for more ranges and quicker but apparently it isnt working based on their rate.

Dr Death

Gorbad Ironclaw
01-08-2006, 12:04
6th ed fantasy got that many army books out in 6 months.


And they all have balance problems, ranging from being to weak, to being overly powerful. And also suffering under having lots of relativly useless units etc.
Releasing loads of army books quickly haven't show it self to be a success in the past. It throws up more problems than it creates.

Besides, why is there a need for new releases to keep interest?

Razhem
01-08-2006, 12:19
If your pissed with that you should give privater press is games a try (HORDES and WARMACHINE). They release a book every year with new stuff for all factions and release things methodically not giving such a big sensation of desert

eldrak
01-08-2006, 12:47
Couldn't be too hard to do at least a small update for most armies when they release a new edition as it's not too hard to spot obsolete stuff and things that need to be balanced. A quick browse on some forums should give them plenty of material to work with.

Or do they only playtest the new rules with the two armies included in the starter? :wtf:

With the fanbase and devotion there is for their game systems it wouldn't be so hard to get feedback for changes even if 95% would have to be discarded.

edit: added a dot

Chuffy
01-08-2006, 12:57
Or maybe they are hyping up 7th Ed?

A shocking idea I know.

gjnoronh
01-08-2006, 16:44
I'm a little confused yes not much out since dwarves (and GW has for the last few years worked on a once every six month schedule for new WFB books) if you exclude the new DoW giant.

But seriously there are 14 core army books out and available to play, I've been playing 16 years and I haven't played the vast majority of them. IMO the different WFB armies have more difference in game play than differing armies in 40K or other non GW systems.

In addition there are the campaign books (storm of chaos / Lustria ) and the White dwarf add ins like zombie pirates.

Finally there are optional rules extensions like the scenarios in Generals compendium and skirmish rules. If you don't own the generals compendium buy it and get together with your friends for some very different gaming experiences.

I've played a lot of game systems and I don't know of another that offers quite that many options in the existing line.

Yes no new army books in the last 7 months. Do you already own the other 14?

Gary

TheWarSmith
01-08-2006, 16:55
What I do wonder is how quickly the O&G book is going to come out, seeing as there are units in skull pass that aren't covered in the current army book.

Something to keep in mind that 2/3 of the last 3 army books were either BRAND NEW(Ogre Kingdoms) or COMPLETE overhauls(Wood elves) with dwarves being a "barely new army book", but I'm sure that takes a lot of their efforts.

Gorbad Ironclaw
01-08-2006, 17:53
What I do wonder is how quickly the O&G book is going to come out, seeing as there are units in skull pass that aren't covered in the current army book.


Mid september I think it's set for. Should be within a week or two of the release of 7th anyway.

n00bLord
03-08-2006, 02:50
Its like this in response with Gdubya working to slow. Its basically saying this.

"I am not dying fast enough!"

TheWarSmith
03-08-2006, 05:47
please never call GW "Gee Dubya", it makes me think of a certain other thing I hate.

SuperBeast
03-08-2006, 13:39
I'll see your "GW haven't released anything", and raise you a Giant, Wood Elf Lord on Stag, Wood Elf lord on Great Eagle, Wood Elf Lord w/2H Weapons and Wood Elf Lord W/Bow.
Not great if you don't collect Wood Elves, but hey.

GW aren't releasing anything for WFB at present because of 7th Edition. 6th Edition is complete, finis, finito.
One 9th September comes around, the release schedules, WFB-wise, are quite busy for the next 18 months. Orcs, Empire, new campaign and undead within the next 12 months alone.

In future, please also be more accurate with your thread titles.
Either rename this
"Army Attention Deficit Disorder! I wanna go play on the bikes! Where's my new toys? All my old ones are boring!"
or
"When will they release army/unit/book X?".
Because it's not difficult to see that those are what you actually meant.
Thank you.

Tempest
05-08-2006, 11:34
I think they need to do teh army books, and leave 7th for a few more years