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Atheling_2006
19-10-2021, 12:31
Hi,

I'm going to be entering a Warhammer Ancient Battles V.2 Classical Tournament sometime next year and wanted to know if any of you guys out there still playing WAB thought of this list? (Boy do I miss the WAB Forum at this point in time!)

This is the second version of my list and I think I have struck a much better balance by dropping the Elite Legionaries and adding 11 Equites Alares- Upgraded to Guards (with a Legate to accompany them)

Also, I've beefed up the Palmyran Horse Archers to 9 and added a few Archers to each Archer Unit.
I would be very interested in any critique of the list- as I mentioned last time, it is a very long time since I played WAB V.2 and could easily be missing something.

I really do need help in balancing the list out

CHARACTERS: 163

ARMY GENERAL-
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Throwing spear/Horse
Special Rules- Army General


ARMY STANDARD BEARER- 117
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Horse
Special Rules- Army Standard Bearer

LEGATE-
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Horse 95 (Goes in with Equites Alares- Upgraded to Guards)

INFANTRY-
21 Seasoned Legionaries- Centurion (+1 Attack/+1 Ld/)/Standard/Musician 335
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear
21 Seasoned Legionaries- Centuri0n (+1 Attack/+1/+1 Ld/)/Standard/Musician 335
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear
21 Seasoned Legionaries- Centurion/ (+1 Attack/+1LD) Ld/)Standard/Musician 335
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear
12 Archers 120
Bow
Special Rules- Light Infantry
12 Archers 120
Bow
Special Rules- Light Infantry

CAVALRY
11 Equites Alares- Upgraded to Guards (WS4/BS4/+4pts) 372
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Javelins/Throwing spear
Special Rules- Light Cavalry/Drilled/(Guards)

ARTILLERY-
Heavy bolt Thrower- 52
4 Crew (1 extra)
Heavy bolt Thrower-
4 Crew (1 extra)
52

ALLIES: PALMYRAN-
12 Cataphracts- 486
Hand Weapon/Cataphract Armour/Kontos/Barding
Special Rules- Cataphracts (actually Shock Cavalry because of Barding)

9 Horse Palyran Archers- 216
Hand Weapon/Composite Bow
Special Rules- Light Cavalry/Parthian Shot/Feigned Flight

TOTAL- 2798 PTS

Rogue
21-10-2021, 21:25
To be honest, I never used characters other than a Tribune, and I never had a problem with my units running from the fight. In fact most of the time they would get stuck in and stay forever in a Roman Civil war game. Give Ground really does a lot to keep your Romans in the fight. It's like having a BSB as a rule, but only you lose some ground. I would get rid of the characters and take those points and work up to another century, or get some more Auxiliaries. Take a Tribune if you must have a commander, but you don't need to.

I think that you have too much invested in light Calvary. You have two large units of them. I would either figure out a way to make one of them into a more hard hitting unit, perhaps with points from above, or find something else. Either way I would not take them at 9 and 11 per unit. Two units of 6 will work just fine.

Having said all of the above, I am not sure that we are on the same page here. Are you using the Roman Army from WAB v2 starting on page 172?

Atheling_2006
21-10-2021, 21:30
My list has changed somewhat since I last posted.

I do think the current list is a little better but despite the Alares being Drilled it still lacks a Cavalry punch

WARHAMMER ANCIENT BATTLES V.2 MIDDLE IMPERIAL ROMANS 2800PTS
IMPERIAL FIELD ARMY
LIST 4

CHARACTERS- Up to 20% (Max of 560pts) (375)
CAVALRY- Up to 50% (Max of 1400pts) (514)
INFANTRY- At Least 33% (At Least 924 pts) (1759)
ARTILLERY- One Model Every 800 points (156)
ALLIES (PALMYRAN)- Up to 25% (0)

CHARACTERS: 163
ARMY GENERAL-
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Throwing spear/Horse
Special Rules- Army General

ARMY STANDARD BEARER- 117
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Horse
Special Rules- Army Standard Bearer

LEGATE-
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Horse 95 (Goes in with Equites Alares- Upgraded to Guards)

INFANTRY-
21 Seasoned Legionaries- Centurian (+1 Attack/+1 Ld/)/Standard/Musician 335
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear

18 Seasoned Legionaries- Centurian (+1 Attack/+1 Ld/)/Standard/Musician 290
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear

18 Seasoned Legionaries- Centurian/ (+1 Attack/+1 Ld/)Standard/Musician 290
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear

18 Elite Legionaries- Centurian/ (+1 Attack/+1 Ld/)Standard/Musician 434
Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Large Shield/Heavy Throwing Spear
Special Rules- Drilled/Stubborn/Veteran

14 Archers 140
Bow
Special Rules- Light Infantry
13 Archers 130
Bow
Special Rules- Light Infantry

13 Archers 130
Bow
Special Rules- Light Infantry



ARTILLERY:

Heavy bolt Thrower (1 extra crew) 52
Heavy bolt Thrower (1 extra crew) 52
Heavy bolt Thrower (1 extra crew) 52

CAVALRY
11 Equites Alares- Upgraded to Guards (WS4/BS4/+4pts) L/S/M 356 Hand Weapon/Light Armour/Shield/Javelins/Throwing spear
Special Rules- Light Cavalry/Drilled/(Guards)

9 Horse Archers (M)- 158
Specical Rules- light Cavalry


Total Points 2794