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Light of the Emperor
10-12-2006, 13:35
@liamrob: Nice avatar. Who painted that?;) I've been thinking about the DK. I might add one squad to this army with a vostroyan sgt acting as an advisor. The armored company might become Krieg depending on bitz, and time, and money etc...
By bucks I mean US dollars. The platoon box is not available anymore though. It was 90 dollars, but wasn't too much of a steal if you add everything up seperately. I picked up two of them and sold some of the casualty models that everybody likes. You might be able to find a platoon on ebay if you look long enough...
@Zodiac: What's wrong with the banner bearer? I'm not hurt or mad or anything...I value input though so if there's something not right with him I might be able to fix it.
@Crazy Ivan: I knew from the beginning I should've gone with a different colored eagle because I hate painting white. But, I decided to go with the bald eagle for the good 'ol USA.
As for the banner, you know those forgeworld brass eagles? Think of the largest one, cut in half and attached to the pole. It's kinda like roman legion SPQR signs that had bars or designs, not fabric.
I entered a vostroyan squad in the German Golden Angel painting competition. They revealed the results today and my squad placed 2nd! Silver Angel for the glorious 11th!
Here's the trophy before its sent to plating or whatever:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/GA.jpg
Crazy Ivan
10-12-2006, 13:49
Congratulations!
As for the banner, you know those forgeworld brass eagles? Think of the largest one, cut in half and attached to the pole. It's kinda like roman legion SPQR signs that had bars or designs, not fabric.
Sounds good. Will be interesting to see how it works out.
Never been a fan of the Vostroyans but I love the results you have achieved with them.
Nice trophy as well.
Good on ya with the comp. Now u just need to get a 1st and 3rd :p
Yup i painted my avatar :p (i wish) Ok i might look on ebay or something later. My brother was gonna prob get me 100 bucks for ma birthday so i might be able to get it. I'm down on paints so i might get paints instead and captain sicarius off a mate. I'm buying the games day 2005 model off -mysterious- today. Time to visit the post office and send off.
Peace Btw can u get those pics of ur guys in the city pls
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/GA.jpg[/IMG]
Light of the Emperor
10-12-2006, 23:52
Not the best but here's some:
Mortars open up:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2868.jpg
Command squad voxes for aid:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2871.jpg
Command at the Aquilla statue:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2866.jpg
In the dusk, snipers pick their targets:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2865.jpg
Light of the Emperor
10-12-2006, 23:55
No one shall pass:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2859.jpg
As I mentioned before, there will be alot more pictures of this table in Firebase 3 as my daemonhunters take on the necrons.
The Iron Duke
11-12-2006, 03:13
amazing Vostroyans + excellent city table = happy time
As always, remarkable stuff, LotE. Your work is the standard against which I measure myself. I look forward to seeing more.
hallowed_are_the_ori
11-12-2006, 03:25
Man i LOVE the look of your army. :( too bad i've got two armies to finish off, otherwise i'd open up the Vostroyan Platoon i bought off Ebay and i'd paint some. I might wait till my skills of painting improve though.
Just curious, the heavy bolter teams for Vostroyans, does the gunner's firing arm come as a separate part or is it cast onto the model?.
Light of the Emperor
11-12-2006, 03:48
@The Iron Duke: Thanks. I look forward to seeing your Vostroyans.
@hallowed_are_the_ori: Glad you like 'em. The gunner's arms are attached/cast to the model. The top of the handle is flat which is where the gun would rest. He's the lascannon gunner but he works for just about any heavy weapon.
Yay thanks for the pics i'll see what i can do with the new stuff i got. I'll make it look dusty and re-post em on here for ya and our fellow warseers.
I might play around and make gun fire like the front of most the box sets now. Any other suggestions guys?? On what i've seen on DoW i guess the las gun shots are red :p
Wish me luck. Btw i tryed
bestial brown
dwarf flesh
dwarf flesh elf flesh 50/50
elf flesh
elf flesh bleach bone 50/50 and it turned out ok on the faces.
I also tryed dark flesh instead of bestial brown but i had to do a wash cause the dwarf flesh is a bit to bright on dark flesh for some reason, i never noticed it before.
One more pic if u can get it is if you can get mainly the foot soldiers (main dudes) like taking firing positions in craters and all of that :p
Otherwise i'll have to check out firebase later for the DH against the Necrons
Wish me luck. Btw i tryed
bestial brown
dwarf flesh
dwarf flesh elf flesh 50/50
elf flesh
elf flesh bleach bone 50/50 and it turned out ok on the faces.
I also tryed dark flesh instead of bestial brown but i had to do a wash cause the dwarf flesh is a bit to bright on dark flesh for some reason, i never noticed it before.
Personally I use Tanned Flesh as a base. It makes the faces a little pinker, but thaty suits my well wrapped up Valhallans, I feel.
I've never tried Bestial Brown before. I must give it a go for my Catachan based army...
Getz with catachan they need a more darker skin look cause of being exposed to the sun and that all day. So i'd go for bestial brown or dark flesh for a base coat if i where you. Otherwise you could do a brown ink wash for the dark recesses and that.
Otherwise i hope u go good with the army.
Oh my catachans aren't Catachans, so I can paint them whatever colour I like
Oh my catachans aren't Catachans, so I can paint them whatever colour I like
Heh, are you getting bitchy getz?!
LOTE, can I please have a shot of the commander with the axe gun and bird on his hand.. I REALLY would Love to see it!
Heh, are you getting bitchy getz?!
It must be something to do with my advancing years... :eyebrows: ;)
Codsticker
11-12-2006, 16:27
'Grumpy Old Wargamer' syndrome; it sets on earlier than the more common Grumpy Old Man' syndrome. ;)
LOTE, can I please have a shot of the commander with the axe gun and bird on his hand.. I REALLY would Love to see it!
There is one on page 13.
As for skin recipes, mine is simple:
Basecoat: Dwarf flesh + bleached bone + very little green ink (removes pinkness of dwarf flesh)
Shade: Bestial brown + dark flesh + glaze medium
Highlight: Basecoat + more bleached bone
Only three stages, painted in above order. First two stages require only a little brush control, so it's quite fast as well. Produces results like this (http://www.uta.fi/~hp73209/vasara/vostroyan/vox.html) or this (http://www.uta.fi/~hp73209/vasara/vostroyan/sergeant.html).
@Zodiac: What's wrong with the banner bearer? I'm not hurt or mad or anything...I value input though so if there's something not right with him I might be able to fix it.
Wait wait wait , there's nothing wrong with it.. its quite awesome as we speak! But I think the pose is a little awkward.. I mean.. I dont know how I would have made a vostroyan standard bearer..So it is really out of place of me to say somethings "wrong" while I havent done it myself.. So its not wrong.. the pose is just a little awkward.. Which is something personal too, sooo...
Maybe you could change the direction he is looking.. but thats seriously ALL that needs changing on the miniature. I really like them you know!
@ Jullevi, Thanks for the answer, but that is not really a shot of the commander is it?
Light of the Emperor
11-12-2006, 23:52
@Zodiac: He's 5 posts down. Its the picture with the standard bearer and plasma gunner. As for the standard bearer, he is converted from a vostroyan sniper model. This may explain the pose. He is leaning to look into his scope, so with that removed it just looks like he's tilting his head. The only thing I changed on him was his left arm. All I did was add a steel legion sgt arm with laspistol. I'm glad you like the 11th!
I finished converting the last missile launcher and this one finally has some more details than the others. With finals coming up, I'm gonna say pictures on Thursday.
Hmm i been playing around with the pictures you put up LoTe. Got some good dust and brightness in. But how the hell do i make it to there like firing. Darn pictures atm are like 50mb each once u edit them cause of all the detail but when i post em on here they'll be only 500kb-2mb.
I've always wondered what the hell is like a glaze medium???? Just wondering cause ur such a good painter if u would know and be able to tell us. Otherwise can't wait for the pics on thursday.
peace
Well i'm off to paint my scouts (well some of it and them) so i'll check back here soon. We need a new picture update :p
orangesm
12-12-2006, 01:38
I would just like to say they look good.
bobert the great clen one
13-12-2006, 00:30
hey mate what a jolly thread you have going here! yes yes eldar as nice and flashy but the big V's maaaaan i need some im thinking of picking some up n painting them like the british grenadier guard (my grandad was a memeber before he died ) so they kinda got a homage to me :D
Where the hell has LoTe been? Normaly he posts on here everyday. Oh well i guess well have to wait now.
The Iron Duke
13-12-2006, 23:48
Keep your pants on, liamrob. I'm sure he's busy as a blue-arsed fly working away in the Emperor's name or perhaps even enjoying his private life (gasp). When he comes back he'll probably have loads of goodies to show us (subliminal message @ LotE ;) ).
Well i guess he did say pics on thursday so hopefully today we'll all have some fun looking at some more pics :)
Comeon LoTe!
Light of the Emperor
14-12-2006, 00:49
Yeah I've been busy. Its finals week afterall!
But I do have something to show:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2907.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2904.jpg
The last missile launcher team...for now at least. The black on the wheels will get some highlighting. The wood looks kinda dumb to me. I'm hoping a dullcoat will help even things out.
Once I get the touchups done, it'll be good to go.
And the overall platoon (minus banner):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2909.jpg
Now, on to that command squad.
Looking good!
It kinda looks funny cause one dude is like oh god i better cover my ears.
The other dude is like who cares just fire away!fire away! otherwise the emperor will hate us :p
Those missile launchers are all scratch built right?
FearFrost
14-12-2006, 01:17
These look really fantastic! Good to see progress despite finals (I JUST finished mine, too) :)
How many points do you actually have painted now?
Frost
Oh, what university do you attend?
Light of the Emperor
14-12-2006, 01:25
@liamrob: They are scratchbuilt out of ork, imperial and metal bitz.
@FearFrost: If my calculations are correct, it is now up to 890-ish. As far as school goes, I'm not the type of student who spends the entire day craming for finals. In fact, I study about 2 hours total for each final and it actually works for me. Hooray dean's list! I attend the University of New Hampshire. How 'bout you?
I might think of something similar for my SM scouts. Cause they'd probably be deep behind enemy lines in mud and everything. Hmm orky stuff sounds good for some little dioramas.
Oh i thought u where a pure adult going with a job and all. :p you are a uni kid :) I'm only a yr 9 kid in 2007.
The Iron Duke
14-12-2006, 03:09
Fine stuff, as always. I am always impressed when I see your photos.
My Vostroyans arrived today :) I am in testing days as well and have to finish applying to colleges by the end of next week, but I hope to have something to show you soon.
Good luck with all your tests. What year are you in college, if I may ask?
Light of the Emperor
14-12-2006, 03:22
Nice! Good to see more Vostroyans coming into the fold. I am looking forward to them. Snakebite probably does too. The Vostroyans shall take over!
I remember the hassles of applying to various colleges. Tests scores here, recommendations there etc etc etc. With all the stuff I had going at the time, I actually applied to some colleges just because they had short admission essays! UNH was actually one of those last minute ones and everything worked out just fine. It turns out that the campus I go to is about 2 minutes away from DakkaDakka/ Empire Games.
You should apply to UNH just for fun. They love out of state people...like me:D.
Oh yeah, I'm currently starting my junior year.
Well i been looking on ebay all day. Tryan find some good deals that i can spend some of my christmas money on :p (well find avg prices on there for later on)
how much in USD did u say the platoon box of vostroyans where?
FearFrost
14-12-2006, 04:42
I got to UF :) Im a junior also, although I started school about 4 or 5 years after high school, so Im an old junior :)
Im at about 900 with my eldar too. If we werent like 1300 miles away from each other challenge you to a game or two!
liamrob: go to gamesworkshop.com, online store. All the retail prices are right there. Edit: my bad, the platoon isnt on there. Here is a link to the page:http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=305556&orignav=301304&GameNav=10
I know thats why i was looking on ebay for a good one.
Light of the Emperor
15-12-2006, 23:55
The Commander is done...I need a name so I'm open to suggestions.
The banner bearer is still WIP:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2915.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2916.jpg
Comments welcome!
asmodai_dark86
16-12-2006, 00:02
Yuri Kristov
It was either Yuri or Boris.. or Hans. They look absolutely stunning and I'm looking forward to doing some krieg in the same colors.
orangesm
16-12-2006, 00:38
Augusti Vladam Martinev
Meaning First (from the Latin) Lord of Men (contraction of Vlad & Adam) and Son of Martin (Martin from the word Mars).
I like the last idea. The guy looks great anyway though!
Light of the Emperor
16-12-2006, 03:56
I like the suggestions, keep them coming.
Some WIP snipers for my ratling squad. I disbanded the sniper special weapon squad. The troops went into squads and the snipers will "count as" ratlings. I plan on having 8 of them.
Nothing special, just extended barrels, muzzles and scopes.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2912.jpg
Currently working on two prone vostroyan snipers using a casualty model and the heavy bolter gunner.
Now then, my daemonhunters must mobilize for a Saturday tournament...
orangesm
16-12-2006, 03:56
I am wondering if you are still doing the big base for the commander, where he is distributing orders?
I see you have two of the minis from it painted, is the plan to make them removable from a bigger base or all on one big base without removing them?
I real like group shot that you had on page 3 of the commander pointing at the Cherbum.
Light of the Emperor
16-12-2006, 04:00
I'm still doing the base. It'll be just like the one on page 3. The commander and his adjutant will be pointing at a map held by the cherubim discussing the next course of action. The adjutant is holding a vox mic in his hand which goes to the voxman covering his ears to hear incoming transmissions.
I tried drilling the feet and inserting magnets but it was too much trouble. So they'll be permanent on there. I'll probably get another commander as a backup should somebody complain.
Kool u might want this for ur commander. Its a simple conversion
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/9693/customgunsuw2.th.jpg (http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=customgunsuw2.jpg)
Might want it for some sniper pistol type of thing. The bottom left pic or u could just emphasize a bit. Can u get another group shot of everything even if its not painted?
Snakebite
16-12-2006, 07:47
That commander looks like a lot of fun to paint. I have mine converted up with an old Kislev saracen-style blade in his right hand. I named him after me - my name's Nick so he is Nikolai. As for Russian style names, I've always liked Rozhenko. Must be the Trekker in me!
Light of the Emperor
17-12-2006, 00:49
Hmm...Mikhail (sp) is Mike in Russian. Mischa is German which sounds good too... that and its my second most used name after Mike.
Just got back from the tourny so no progress yet. I lost every game but got best sportsman, best painted and best theme. This is with my DH of course. Consistently losing is one of the many reasons why I am raising the Vostroyan 11th.
The plan is for my Vostroyans to be completely done by the November Baltimore GT...perhaps even earlier for the Games Day tourny. I'm sure they'll be done by then anyways at the rate I'm painting them.
Light of the Emperor
17-12-2006, 22:18
Well, I finished up the HQ plasma gunner.
The banner bearer is currently soaking in simple green...I just didn't like it. The body was actually ok. The banner needs work in terms of color coordination. Maybe I'll prime the banner white.
Currently working on the medic and cherub.
I'm also scrounging around for GKs. I've had a bunch of these guys since the codex came out. I'm currently at 5 terminators, 1 Brother Captain Stern, 2x 6man squads with justicar and psycannon. I still need 3 more psycannons, a justicar and 3 GK power armor models to finish the force.
No worries, Vostroya first and always. The GK is just something I've been messing around with. I might throw in a picture or two sometime in the future.
Cheers for now!
Sounds good glad to see your still doing some work! Post pics soon!
Light of the Emperor
18-12-2006, 22:38
Some more progress. There are some touchups that need to be done:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2919.jpg
I just need the sgt for the diorama and the banner bearer.
After that, I guess I'll paint some commissars. Finally, no brass armor or green tunics!
Oh, if anyone has the hero basing kit and does not plan on using the brown static grass...care to part with it for some money or bitz? Let me know.
Cheers.
orangesm
19-12-2006, 00:10
The Imperial Medical Helix, did you sculpt that on or is it part of the mini?
The_Flip
19-12-2006, 00:19
Great customization and creativity- I'm very impressed. I especially like the Cannons and Armored Column (and can't wait to see it painted). Keep up the great work!
Sam
~TF~
bobert the great clen one
19-12-2006, 00:27
i wanna see the daemonhunters!!!!! show me pics!!!! lol anywany nice work on your vostryans there ! im glad that this thread hasnt gone to ruin like many other :D
Light of the Emperor
19-12-2006, 01:31
Thanks for the comments everybody! Great motivation!
@orangesm: Its part of the mini. The only thing I did to him was to cut the spike off his fur cap.
@The_Flip: Thanks. The AC will have its day...
@bobert: Dragonforce! Metaaaaalllll! Sure thing...
I've had this army since the codex came out. Its been to 3 GTs and countless RTTs and smaller tournies. While it rarely wins, it is fun to play. I love themed armies and went for an Inquisitor Cell with 3 inquisitors and a lord. Accompanying them is the 666th Inquisitorial Stormtrooper Regiment.
All the vehicles have light systems which light up the symbol on the their tops.
I haven't played any other type of army for the past three years and decided it was time for a change (and maybe win some games too). So, we have the Vostroyans.
They may or may not be part of Firebase 3. Damn the inquisition and their secretive ways...nobody expects the imperial inquisition!
What you see here is the 1850 point list mounted on a magnetic carrying tray:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2922.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2923.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2925.jpg
They look really good mate! Shame they haven't had their winning streak yet! I'm sure they will soon! Keep up the good work!
hallowed_are_the_ori
19-12-2006, 06:23
I like your Daemonhunter army very much so.
hallowed_are_the_ori
19-12-2006, 06:24
Think you could show us close up of your inquistor/inquisitors?
Colonel Jacka
19-12-2006, 11:40
LotE,
Your Non Red Vostroyan Army is excellant I really like the Medic and Plasma Gunner. Top Job!
Ooo i love the DH force. Please if u can try get some close up pics of the inquisitor and retinue.
I like that snow board in the background to.
Light of the Emperor
21-12-2006, 03:32
Well, I don't think my army will have any tanks...which is great!
Look what FW just released:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Imperial%20Guard/Krieg/Artillary/thudd19.jpg
So a unit of 3 coupled with a unit of 3 heavy mortars...The wheeled chassis fit with my heavy weapons as well as my artillery theme. Not bad...
For you military experts out there, do mortars fall under artillery or do they have a seperate "name" ?
Those are some cool models! lol Might have to get me some soon!
Light of the Emperor
21-12-2006, 04:13
@Xuchilbara:
I consider the heavy mortar and thudd gun as heavy artillery which are supported by squads of soldiers. I don't particularly care to go into companies, battalions etc...so for ease, I'm just gonna say regiment.
I just need to know if mortars are classified as artillery or something else.
Great DK by the way.
Agreed - although there isn't really a real world equivalent to the Thudd Gun, it's broadly analagous to the Heavy Barrage Mortar systems used in WWI, or the Rocket artillery used in WWII - both of which were treated as "heavy" artillery from an organisational standpoint.
So... a battery of Heavy Mortars, a battery of Thudd Guns and a heavy weapons platoon of Mortars for Heavy Support then?
Actually, in all seriousness, what is your list going to be like? I've kind of lost track with all the Oohing and Aahing...
UnRiggable
21-12-2006, 15:24
Oh sweet another krieg army? Or am I just tripping?
I had to do something with one of your pictures...
chuckyhol
21-12-2006, 17:21
UnRiggable, you just made my spill my apple juice because of my laughter. Nice work LotE, I get closer to doing vostroyans each day because of you.
Light of the Emperor
21-12-2006, 18:51
@Unriggable: that was funny. They need reminding every once and a while. No death korp for me though, I'm just stealing the heavy weapons.
@chuckyhol: thanks. Get some vostroyans to feud with your nightlords.
@Getz: here's an idea of the list:
Doctrines: special weapon squads, ratlings, rough riders, carapace armor, iron discipline.
HQ: (meant to be leadership support)
Heroic Senior Officer- laspistol, CCW, iron discipline
Commissar- laspistol, CCW
Medic, Standard Bearer, Vox caster, Plasma gunner
Fire Support Squad- 3x autocannons (will be horse drawn)
115
Anti-tank Squad- 3x lascannons
130
Mortar Squad- 3x mortars
100
Special Weapon Squad- demo charge
65
Elites:
Ratlings x8
88
Troops:
HQ:
Junior Officer- Iron Discipline
Commissar
Plasma Gunner, Medic, Heavy Bolter
136
Squad 1:
Sgt.
Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
98
Squad 2:
Sgt.
Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
98
Squad 3:
Sgt.
Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
98
HQ:
Junior Officer- Iron Discipline
Commissar
Plasma Gunner, Medic, Missile Launcher
141
Squad 1:
Sgt.
Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
103
Squad 2:
Sgt.
Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
103
Squad 3:
Sgt.
Plasma Gunner, Lascannon
115
Fast Attack:
Rough Riders x8- Hunting Lances, Vox (continuing with the horse idea)
111
Heavy Support:
Heavy Mortar battery
Thudd Gun battery
Basilisk?
There's still work to be done on the list but that's where its kinda heading.
Light of the Emperor
22-12-2006, 16:17
They do look like nebelwerfers. Then again, so do my missile launchers.
I finished the vox sgt who is discussing tactics with the commander. I'm currently working on the base so look for pictures tomorrow.
Coming down the homestretch in terms of painting what I have. Here's the list:
base
banner bearer
3 commissars
sgt with axepistol
2 snipers
2 prone snipers
I'm getting ready to order some bitz to make a test vostroyan ogryn and a test rough rider. I'm also thinking of making a flamer sentinal display piece. The top chassis would be "wood" with metal plating. The promethium barrel will be a wooden barrel and the flamer nozzle will be the old school one.
Heru Talon
22-12-2006, 18:13
I'm getting ready to order some bitz to make a test vostroyan ogryn
Why would you need a test Vostroyan Ogryn when you don't even use the Ogryn squads doctrine?
Unless of course he's a display piece or something...
Light of the Emperor
22-12-2006, 18:38
Just for fun really. That and if get tired of the same army list, I can switch things up.
FearFrost
23-12-2006, 00:27
I know you said you dont want tanks....
but...
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/product/087/32538/header_32538.jpg
Are you sure!? ;)
Aaah... The KV2...
It would make for a pretty impressive Demolisher...
FearFrost
23-12-2006, 00:51
Im on a serious "I want a ww2 german IG army" phase, so I have been looking at Tamiya 1/48 and 1/35 kits. Maybe Ill get LOTE hooked too :)
Light of the Emperor
23-12-2006, 02:32
I know for a fact that I'm gonna need a backup plan because I doubt tournies will let me use the heavy mortars/ thudd guns since they are forgeworld rules.
That KV2 looks very similar to a Ragnarok. Especially the turret. If I can get my hands on that model and some chimera pieces...What size am I looking for? 1/48 or 1/35?
The core of my army, for the most part, is done. I'll continue with what I have and try out some conversions which may or may not find their way into the force.
Colonel Jacka
23-12-2006, 04:22
I know for a fact that I'm gonna need a backup plan because I doubt tournies will let me use the heavy mortars/ thudd guns since they are forgeworld rules.
Most Tournaments that I have played in allow you to use FW stuff as all FW vehicles are legal. Not sure why people think you can not use them. Its only Super Heavies that are restricted, but in Tournaments you would not be able to field them because of the point limits. You need 3000pts + to field the big guns most Tournaments have far less point limits.
FearFrost
23-12-2006, 06:11
I think 1/48 would be more in scale, but 1/35th could be pretty imposing :D
Im debating on those myself.
Frost
You would need 1/48. The KV-2 had a massively oversized turret even in real turrets. Put it on something significantly out of scale and it will just look terrible.
Light of the Emperor
24-12-2006, 15:38
And another update:
Overall Command minus the banner bearer:
The vox man is covering his ears to hear the incoming transmissions...or because the tactical debate is too much:
"Sir, the orks are everywhere!"
"Nonesense my boy, they are at our front, sides and rear. We have them surrounded!"
"Sir you don't understand! The or..."
"Need I remind you who has the larger feathers? I say, the orks walked right into my trap and now I shall give them a good whipping. We shall be drinking Vodka in no time!"
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2935.jpg
And the tactical readouts of the battle:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2932.jpg
Looking good mate!! Keep it up! Your Vostroyans are really inspiring!
HiredSword.
24-12-2006, 15:58
ha! brilliant, and i love how the familair is just smiling to himself...
Heru Talon
24-12-2006, 22:52
Lets just hope that Missile Launcher team in the backround doesn't fire on them...
I really like the colors you have going there on those guys, the Commander's coat looks really nice!
The Laughing God
25-12-2006, 12:39
Lets just hope that Missile Launcher team in the backround doesn't fire on them...
That's exactly what I was thinking:D Good color scheme, and their amazing! I don't know how you paint like that. I like the Command squad it gives more fluff to your army, and makes a cool display peice.
Really like the command base! The story is quite cool! :D
You should have "boris" on his own base though, you know.. when the vox is dead.. he would look quite awesome holding a sabre IMO..
ghostmaker12
25-12-2006, 15:48
hey looking nice. love the way you painted it up.
i dont know if you noticed but you left the mortar on the back of the vox unit.
schoolcormorant
25-12-2006, 16:07
they look awesome mate, i really like the 'rally round' to check the scores, it's like a mini-diorama. very nice.
one question, how do you paint your plasma?
SC
Light of the Emperor
25-12-2006, 16:26
Thanks guys!
@Zodiac: I will be getting another commander on his own base. He'll have some cool wargear.
@Ghostmaker12: yeah the mortar is still there. I determined it would be too time consuming to get it off.
@schoolcormorant: The plasma would be a lot easier to paint if that eagle wasn't in the way. I need to practice though and try out light source painting. The plasmas I currently have are basecoated regal blue and then I go up to enchanted, ice, and white. I leave a little bit of each color to make it look as if the plasma gets hotter as it reaches a point.
squiggoth
25-12-2006, 19:23
Nice blog, nice colour scheme, nice overall army .... Sweet commander diorama, and the wheels on the heavy weapons are a VERY good find.
I'll be keeping an eye out for this blog. :)
I looked through your posts the other day, and I saw that you mentioned a Vostroyan Ogre! And as usual I was doing my usual daily "update" tour, and I do not know if this has been mentioned to you before, by PM or post.. but rackham has a nice one! It is called - Musician of Khaurik
Here it is:
http://www.rackham-store.com/boutique/fiche_produit.cfm?type=738&ref=FRCDMU01&code_lg=lg_fr&pag=1&num=46&tri=0&marq=0
Now I dont know if you like their "style" of ogres, I certainly do not.. but the head is brilliant, stick it on a GW ogre, greenstuff him a greatcoat, et voila!
Would look cool I think.
ss_cherubael
26-12-2006, 14:02
Hey i finally mustered the courage to read through all of this thread, in between painting and drinking far too much coke.
First off i have to say i love your guys, the green is far more military and practical than the red. The heavy weapons are great and the converting is top notch.
I like the banners alot and the officers with the simple swaps work so so well. Im hanging out to see what the rough riders will be like and i want to see the heavy mortars you are going to order.
BTW i love the AC as well i think they look damn good how they are!
odmiller
26-12-2006, 19:00
Love the command squad. Really nicely done. What a great use of that cherub.
Light of the Emperor
26-12-2006, 22:54
Thanks!
My 3 heavy mortars came in so I'm planning some special stuff with them. For example, I'm using cherub models to be flying overhead and loading the mortar rounds. I need to make a bitz order though.
Part of that bitz order will include a gryphon legion rider so that I can come up with a test model.
Currently working on the converted sgt. and two snipers.
@Zodiac: Thanks for the find! I like the body far more than the head. I might use that sucker depending on my test ogryn.
Oh, my Golden Angel model/trophy came in...and she now has a place next to the guys that got her for me:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2937.jpg
I need some help. Can I get some info as to how you all paint black cloaks/coats for my commissars? Thanks!
tancrede
27-12-2006, 06:36
very nice army. i keep an eye on it since the beginning, and it's really amazing.
concerning the black coats, i use rotting flesh to highlight the black, up to nearly a 50/50 mix. then , you can put skull white if you want a brilliant effect (as on a black leather coat or a black armor).
here is a little example (on a chaplain's armor)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8420/noircq4.jpg
I have been following this project log for a while now and i really like what i see! It is good to see an army painted in a different scheme :) Well done
FearFrost
28-12-2006, 05:06
Wow, man. Just wow.
HiredSword.
28-12-2006, 08:59
love the idea of cherubs loading the mortar, again that strikes me as a very vostroyan thing to do for some reason.
I hope the rough riders come out well as well, show us some photos even if it doesnt work.
scrubout
28-12-2006, 17:52
Question for LotE!!!
How do you do the wood grain on your Vostroyan's lasguns?
I'm having a tough time with my test Vostroyan (HE'S PURPLE!) and giving his lasgun a wood-like appearance. As soon as I get some advice, or solve this dilemma myself I'll post pictures of it in my project log.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
Light of the Emperor
28-12-2006, 19:02
@Scrubout: I don't really have woodgrain on mine. I liked the idea of wooden lasguns so I did a real simplified version. Simply paint scorched brown over a black undercoat and then hit all the edges of the gun with graveyard earth. On the stock, follow the curves with a line of graveyard earth as well.
Purple Vostroyans! I wanted to try one out sometime just for fun. I really want to see how you pulled it off.
@tancrede: thanks, I'll try that out.
As of now, the FW rules gives each heavy mortar a three man crew. I'm going to have 4 for each: two vostroyans, 1 servitor and either a cherub or servo skull. The guardsmen will stand pretty while the other hold rounds and load the mortars.
Light of the Emperor
29-12-2006, 21:55
An update for your perusal:
Two more snipers for my eventual "count as" ratling squad:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2943.jpg
And the sgt with axe/pistol WIP:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2945.jpg
scrubout
29-12-2006, 22:43
Looks real nice LotE, thanks for the timely response! I'll have pictures up as soon as my stepfather uploads them (they should be good too, he's a graphic designer...so he's all artsy and stuff of that nature...I hope), tonight most likely.
I may have to take your ratling squad idea, it's just too cool and the Vostroyans are truly lovely sculpts, I really can't believe how much fun they are to paint! Or maybe it's just a nice break from kasrkin and tanks...:eyebrows:
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
Light of the Emperor
30-12-2006, 04:26
I definately would like to see the purple vostroyan.
The models are indeed fun to paint. But, if you want to keep the enthusiasm (and your sanity) don't make an infantry army.
scrubout
30-12-2006, 05:37
I definately would like to see the purple vostroyan.
The models are indeed fun to paint. But, if you want to keep the enthusiasm (and your sanity) don't make an infantry army.
Ha! Your telling me!
I am collecting a bizarre hodpodge of 'remnants' from Medusa V and beyond in a semi-mechanized grenadiers with carapace and conscripts (hopefully DKoK conscripts...over time it can and will be done!) regiment.
An acceptable backstory excuse for giving my regiment variety in painting, as well as lots of tanks...mmm tanks.
Pictures as soon as I can get my useless stepfather off his rump! I managed to complete a plasma Vost today.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
Light of the Emperor
30-12-2006, 19:58
A commissar serving in a guard army might take on the customs and dress of the regiment yes?
I was thinking of painting the commissar's trench coat in the same color as the vostroyan jackets. The sash and hat will retain their "normal" commissar colors.
On a similar note, are commissars allowed to have facial hair?
scrubout
30-12-2006, 20:05
I say yes to both, even though the cleanshaven-hard-as-nails look of a commissar adds to his intimidation factor, I feel the answer to both of those questions relies primarily upon the Commissar and his own discretion/training on a schola progenium facility.
...shameless plug: my purple Vosts are up now...
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
ghostmaker12
31-12-2006, 02:17
hey havent been posting lately but i love the ratlings nice job using the vox caster as a sniper.
and for the commissar with facial hair just create some fluff behind him say he was born and raised on their home planet and hes keeping with the traditional vostroyan look of the moustache and maby a beard.
FearFrost
31-12-2006, 05:53
*mumbles something about tanks*
I really like your Vostroyans LotE, but one thing on the sgt; I don't like the pistol he has on his axe, maybe you could sculpt/give him a pouch for his pistol?
Anyways keep up the good work ;)
ghostmaker12
31-12-2006, 13:47
Inspiration from UD WD 316:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/Vostroyanwithaxepistol.jpg
i say keep it since your going along with the pic. keep up the excelent work.
orangesm
31-12-2006, 15:56
On the Commissar I do not agree with making him a Vostroyan, they are raised in Imperial Institutations, their homeworld may be no where near the place of the Regiments founding. But taking on similiar uniform would not be bad.
A different skin tone may achieve this.
To an enemy that picks out those that are different it would help him blend in, but he needs to be easily distingiushable from a Vostroyan Officer. Possibly a very crisp uniform, amazingly clean and polished for someone on the front! An example to those he leads.
It may even help break up the painting a little.
Light of the Emperor
31-12-2006, 16:27
Yeah, I guess the commissars will stay as they are. I painted two of them and then stripped them again because I'm not satisified how I paint and highlight black...
schoolcormorant
31-12-2006, 16:30
Yeah, I guess the commissars will stay as they are. I painted two of them and then stripped them again because I'm not satisified how I paint and highlight black...
ever tried adding bleached bone or Rotting flesh to black as the highlight, i hear it works nicely on coats and clothing - i'd stick with grey for armour plating though.
SC
Light of the Emperor
31-12-2006, 16:50
I did use a bleachbone/black combo and layered the highlights up...but in the end it looked too grey for my taste. I just need to suck it up and experiment a bit more.
@FearFrost: I have quite a few plans for some tanks. It includes FW, bitz orders and the tank kits themselves. But unless all that magically appears for free, it will be quite some time. I'm currently ordering bitz for my heavy mortar battery. Following that will be the lascannon and horse drawn autocannon squads. Then two more infantry squads and possibly the rough riders.
Really great work there Light of the Emperor.
Nice execution of the weapon from the Blanche sketch.
Keep up the good work!
FearFrost
31-12-2006, 17:56
*grumbles something about how tanks should be free*
:D
Post your WIP on the commisar, maybe we can help!
Frost
Colonel Max
31-12-2006, 23:28
You're Heavy Weapons teams are looking awesome-those wheels were a great choice.
The Iron Duke
01-01-2007, 03:52
I just got back from a week+ in the Catskills walking in the woods and mountains of my childhood far away from the internet and am writing this 20 minutes before 2007 starts, but I just wanted to compliment you on your lovely stuff you've posted since I last checked - it bodes well for the new year.
For the commissars, if its not too late, you could sculpt a bit of fur on them and swap the weapons for more ornate ones like they do on the British GW site. More than that would be going too far, I think, since, as has been said, they are orphans taken from their homeworlds to centralized, Administratum/Departmento Munitorum-run Scholae Progenium.
Also, I can't get over how good the commander is. Would you mind terribly if I did something similar?
All right, best wishes to you and yours and to everyone else for 2007.
Light of the Emperor
01-01-2007, 04:21
Thanks guys. Happy New Year to all!
@IronDuke: As for the commander, by all means go for it. Like I said, anyone can feel free to copy anything I've done. Inspiration goes from gamer to gamer and I hope I'm playing my part.
As for the commissars, I am actually doing almost the same thing as the one on the GW site. I've scratched the idea of facial hair...I just need to practice painting black a bit more.
FarseerUshanti
01-01-2007, 04:24
For your black there is a form of vallejo gray that looks good on black .I can't remember the name, but if you combine it with codex or fortress gray and highlight the black with it, it makes a really great highlight. I'll try to find out the name of the grey for you.
Happy New Year
and great minis
Light of the Emperor
01-01-2007, 18:35
Finished the 2nd Platoon banner bearer (except for what he's standing on):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2946.jpg
Not the best picture, but its nothing special. Just a FW eagle cut in half.
As for basing...
Thanks to Snakebite, I have the brown static grass from the hero basing kit coming my way. I also found a website that sells "fall leaves". So, both of those will make it onto the bases for an autumn look which, barring wood elves, is not very common.
Cpt.Hellboy
01-01-2007, 18:39
Have you looked at the "Death Korps of Krieg" models on forgeworld. All their heavy weapons are mounted on wheels and they have a rather gothic feel to them.
FearFrost
01-01-2007, 18:43
Have you looked at the "Death Korps of Krieg" models on forgeworld. All their heavy weapons are mounted on wheels and they have a rather gothic feel to them.
If you look back towards the front of the thread, he refers to them ;)
Nice work LOTE, I like that guy's bionic hand.
Light of the Emperor
01-01-2007, 18:53
I put the heavy weapons on wheeled chassis because I wanted this army to have a feel similar to 2nd Edition Guard.
Then FW brought out the DK heavy weapons and stole my very unoriginal idea ;) .
Hmm by bionic hand are you referring to the banner bearer? Bad picture angle then because its a laspistol. Unless you are talking about Sgt Hook.
ghostmaker12
01-01-2007, 21:27
like the banner bearer. i like the use of the Steel Legion laspistol arm. i cant wait see some of your tanks when you eventually get them.
scrubout
01-01-2007, 21:43
How are those brass eagles to work with LotE? I am considering picking up some to detail my kasrkin, aka grenadiers, shoulderpads.
I can't wait to see what you do with the bases, sounds much more unique than my ash wastes/quasi-CoD ones.
I highlighted my Commissar with fortress gray, try drybrushing it if your having a real hard time with it. You can see him in my own project log, which I might update with my Vost lascannon squad today if I get pictures! That's as far as my advice for that goes though, good luck!
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
schoolcormorant
01-01-2007, 21:49
for the black just go the normal way of highlighting up to codex then do a wash of watered down black ink - this seems to be becoming a theme for this thread lol.
i like the banner bearer and the chaplain thing...can't remember name of...halo thing works very nicely on the top.
i say, keep the axe conversion, i know some people don't like it, but if it comes from a WD as concept art you can;'t exactly fault it.
SC
For the commissar sculpt this guy some legs: link (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/commtankcomm.htm)
It will look the shizzle, I've seen it done.
Light of the Emperor
02-01-2007, 22:33
@ZAChos: Good suggestion, but my greenstuffing skills are nonexistant.
Here are some overall army shots I promised a while back...sorry for the delay:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2950.jpg
And some of the platoons:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2952.jpg
Special Weapons:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2953.jpg
And guess which army got a new display case!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2954.jpg
Thanks for the overall army pics LotE!
What? Three Ikea Detolf cabinets? I only have one, and I still can't fill it.. :( :p
oohhhh!!!! I know what to ask my wife to get me for my birthday. Those cases are the shizzle.
back on topic: Those snipers look great. I can't wait to see this army finished.
Althanan
03-01-2007, 02:09
Just curious, how many boxes do those come in? Website says one, but I know from firsthand experience that the website lies on a lot of things...
Light of the Emperor
03-01-2007, 02:29
It actually comes in one box. Inside the box is one smaller box. The glass and wood are wrapped in plastics.
Its a good cabinet and for 70 dollars, I'm not complaining.
Althanan
03-01-2007, 02:49
Seriously now? Hmmm... for once the website tells true ;)
I'll have to seriously consider one or two next time I move...
FearFrost
03-01-2007, 05:38
I meant the glove/gauntlet/hand that he is holding the banner with :)
How much does ikea charge to ship one of those cases?
Light of the Emperor
03-01-2007, 22:13
I have a question...
What color do I paint the brown trim that surrounds the flag? (I'm currently repainting him which is why I ask):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2915.jpg
Red is an accent color so that won't work and neither will black (because I can't paint it:rolleyes: ). The "inside/scene" of the banner will have the same colors.
Thanks!
ghostmaker12
03-01-2007, 22:26
maby white or a lighter green?
I would say red, seeing as you are using it in other parts of your colour scheme such as the Officer's sash...
orangesm
04-01-2007, 05:10
What about gold? or a gold like color? The color inside of the commanders cape may work alright.
Can we get a link for the display cases (one to the company that sells it)?
scrubout
04-01-2007, 05:18
I say white or yellow. I think the red would be a bit too much, it adds all kinds of little details to your other infantry, including the bearer, try something different. Like you said, it's an accent.
Not to go against the advice of "Getz for Lord Solar" Getz. :p
I want one of those display cabinets like I want my girlfriend on a cold, lonely night...which is really longing, and kinda lustful.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
FearFrost
04-01-2007, 05:24
Red or black or white. Id go with red or black, actually.
Colonel Jacka
04-01-2007, 09:59
LotE,
Its a Regimental Standard it should be trimmed in Gold. Go for gold mate.
Light of the Emperor
04-01-2007, 14:35
Here's the link to the case: http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?topcategoryId=15561&catalogId=10103&storeId=12&productId=11638&langId=-1&categoryId=15645&chosenPartNumber=10011055
Thanks for all the suggestions. Gold seems viable...what about a dark green?
EDIT: Well, the color choice can wait because the banner bearer finds himself once again in simple green. Lets add skin to the list of things I can't paint. Actually its a whole group of factors but most importantly, I just didn't like it...again.
Light of the Emperor
04-01-2007, 19:55
No project log would be complete without a step by step tutorial, so I figured I'd come up with my own. I hope it can help encourage some of my fellow hobbyists when it comes to painting vostroyans...or just painting in general. I feel this army is a prime example of how clean painting and using only the most basic techniques can create a good looking force. Now, I am no where near the top of great painters on Warseer, so consider the following advice at your own risk ;) .
PART 1: Stopping the Red and Going Green
I really like the red scheme that the Vostroyans had. The problem was two fold: I already had a "red" army (my DH) and everyone else seemed to be following the 'Eavy Metal scheme. Wanting something different, I went with a more traditional guard color...green. Besides the armor, the cloth is what really makes the Vostroyans "pop", so its worth the extra time to get it right. On the same token, painting an entire guard force and making sure everything is perfect, is not the best idea either (you'll go insane). I took the best of both worlds.
Step 1:
Basecoat all cloth with catachan green. Make sure it gets into the folds, but don't worry about overall coverage. Catachan green just makes it easier to apply the main color rather than directly over black.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2956.jpg
Step 2:
Create a 50:50 mix (I call it catacamo) of catachan green and camo green. Cover all the cloth again EXCEPT for the deepest part of the folds and the insides of the tunics. This color is the base color for my Vostroyans. You want nice coverage with this color so it would be wise to thin the paint a little with some water. Keep this mix handy because...
Step 3:
Pick out the edges of the tunics and the highest folds with camo green. Try to make the lines nice and thin, but if you make them too wide, simple take the catacamo mix and narrow them down.
Combining Steps 2 and 3 should give you this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2964.jpg
Step 4:
I am not a fan of extreme highlighting so to tone down the camo green lines, I do a drybrush of camo green on top. This drybrush is the key to making this cloth look good (in my opinion at least). It does three things:
1) It "blends" every layer of color together
2) It tones down the camo green highlights
3) It gives the impression of cloth/wool.
This step is messy, but that's why its done first.
Here's the final result:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2967.jpg
Up next, Part 2
FearFrost
04-01-2007, 19:57
Now, I am no where near the top of great painters on Warseer, so consider the following advice at your own risk ;) .
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Lies! :D
Cool tutorial, Ive never used a drybrush to tone down highlights before...thats a really interesting approach.
It might be something I end up using on my guard, depending on the scheme I decide on...still not sure if Im going to go gray, or late war camo. Hrm.
Frost
Light of the Emperor
04-01-2007, 20:12
Part 2: Brown Ink For The Win!
No seriously, these Vostroyans owe their looks soley to brown (and later, black) inks. Remember I said the armor is the most important piece to make Vostroyans look good? Well, I went for the easiest way possible to do so...with ONE color! Everything else that requires a brown ink wash is painted now as well.
Step 1:
1) Take Brazen Brass and cover every part of the armor. I do my best to leave the black undercoat in the deepest creases or where the armor plates overlap one another. Instant blacklining! You might need one or two good coats to get even coverage.
2) Paint the boots and purity seal parchments Bestial Brown. Straight up.
3) Paint the purity seal wax and all lenses Red Gore and then highlight the highest part (the rim) with Blood Red.
4) Paint the purity seal parchment Bleached Bone, leaving the brown in the recesses.
It should look like this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2968.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2969.jpg
Step 2:
Now, mix brown ink and water. I don't have an exact ratio, but you want more ink than water. Test it out on an armor plate. The "stain" the armor takes on will depend on the amount of ink in the mix, so come up with a ratio that suits your taste.
Once you have the desired ratio, cover all the armor, purity seals, boots and lenses. The ink helps shade and highlight so you get good results in little time.
And here's the end result:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2973.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2974.jpg
Look for Step 3: Black Ink For The Win! either later tonight or tomorrow.
Cheers!
Light of the Emperor
04-01-2007, 21:29
Part 3: Black Ink For The Win!
With the brown ink out of the way, its time to focus on the black. This stage is one of the easiest.
Step 1:
Thin down some Boltgun Metal with water and cover everything that isn't armor or leather. Paint some Mithril Silver on the edge of the huge bayonet of doom.
NOTE: Since Vostroyans have a limited model range, I paint each one a little different to avoid a repetitive look. One might have a silver chest plate, the next would have gold...etc. The major difference in this example is the upper part of the mask. The gun casing, chainmail, waterbottle, are always silver on my guys.
Before ink:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2977.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2978.jpg
Step 2:
Once all the silver is painted on, its time to add the black ink wash. Much like the brown wash, I don't have an exact ratio...just use what looks right. The black should be thick enough to tone down the silver and shade in all the crevices yet not look blotchy on the flat surfaces.
After ink:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2981.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2983.jpg
I apologize for picture quality. I think its time I made a light box. If you need a better reference check through this log for pictures. There are some good ones. Or, if you have a question, ask away.
Tomorrow, Part 4: What No Metal? Wood and Leather
Light of the Emperor
05-01-2007, 18:25
Part 4 shall be up later today.
If you have any comments about the tutorial (easy to follow, steps, etc) let me know. I'll try to improve it.
Now then, I don't go back to the university until later this month, so I'm gonna be painting as much as I can. I'm running out of models and money though because I'm working on a business venture...
So, as it looks:
2 prone snipers
3 commissars (when I find the winning solution as to how to paint black)
4 vostroyans
3 heavy mortars
1 techpriest
Then there are all my GKs, Golden Daemon entries...It thankfully doesn't end
Hello LotE
I have been following this thread for inspiration for a long time, these Vostroyans really look goooooood.... I especially love the banners, that you made!!!! And the paintjob is just amazing - i myself prefer the red one, but yours if looking very nice. Great tutoriel as well
Cheers From another Vostroyan commander
Irfpio
FearFrost
05-01-2007, 18:37
I love when a tutorial is surprising in its simplicity. Really well done, nice to see that your models dont have 400 steps each...it means actually finishing the army is possible! :D
LotE,
Congratulations on a great looking army, and a well written, simple to follow tutorial.. I look forward to the next stage..
It is encouraging to see that great looking models can be achieved with not too many stages in the painting process.. great when you have to put lots into the field..
Well done, I shall continue to follow this log for further inspiration,
Carl
Light of the Emperor
05-01-2007, 20:54
Thanks!
Part 4: What No Metal? Wood and Leather
This is the last "hard" part in terms of painting. This one is all about neatness. Since there's a lot of wood and leather, I use three different browns: scorched, dark flesh, and bestial. They are highlighted with graveyard earth, bestial, and graveyard earth respectively. So in terms of this model, the gun stock and some of the pouches are scorched brown. All the pouches around the gun stock were painted with dark flesh to keep everything from blending and looking too similar.
Basically, it comes down to preference on what gets painted which color. To keep things simple:
1) Paint everything you want dark, Scorched Brown
2) Paint other parts of the model Dark Flesh
3) Paint other parts of the model Bestial Brown and highlight the Dark Flesh
4) Highlight the Scorched Brown and Bestial Brown with Graveyard Earth
Then take a fine paintbrush and go in with chaos black and do some repair. Blackline where the armor plates meet, where shadows would be, etc. I also paint all armor straps black.
I forgot to paint the grenade for this picture, but simply paint the squares codex grey (leaving the black underneath), followed by fortress grey. If this Vostroyan had a moustache, it would be painted the same way.
This is what the model should now look like:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2985.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2986.jpg
Part 5 will be coming soon...and then he's done!
Looking forward to se the finishing stage:)
Cheers
Irfpio
Light of the Emperor
08-01-2007, 23:42
I got an assembled sentinal in a trade and I thought I'd make it a Vostroyan one. I have no plans on using this guy...he was just fun to convert. I plan on selling him, but I wanted to give you guys here a shot at it first. If anyone is interested, send me a PM.
The driver is removable so it could technically be a sentinal for any guard army. I added the wood barrel with a nod to the vostroyan trooper with the wooden flamer.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2992.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2993.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2994.jpg
The final part in the tutorial will be up tomorrow and I'm currently finishing up the last vostroyan infantry that I have. Then I'll take another shot at the banner bearer and commissars.
Cheers!
scrubout
09-01-2007, 02:45
Ha, I like that conversion. The barrel is really characterful, nice choice.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
LoTE u wanna purchase my sentinel i don't need :p It was my first piece of 40k i ever bought. I think i might convert it into a sentinel walking up some stairs of a chapel or something. Might do a mini duel to enter into golden demon. I wonder how i might do it.
If anyones got some ideas pm me. LoTE u could help me think of an idea.
Keep up the hard work.
Snakebite
09-01-2007, 07:06
That conversion is great - I love that barrel!
Spurred on by your progress, I too have recently picked up my brushes and am continuing with my Vostroyans. I have Sentinels planned and will definitely be taking some ideas from this one.
I'll have to take a look at urs snakebite when u get some more painting done. I just love vostryans but i'm being taken by the hive mind. They look like awesome models the Nids but i gotta say for the emperor!
ghostmaker12
11-01-2007, 01:26
HEY thats the cadian sentinal part that i sent you that you stripped. but yea good to see its being put to good use insted of sitting on my desk
The Iron Duke
11-01-2007, 03:03
Looks good LotE. One thing: is it just me, or does the Vossy not have any arms? Barrel's a nice touch, although maybe a bit more insignia might work? It's a tad flat.
With his head out like that, he's just asking for a headshot, but any soldier who straps grenades and wooden casks of volatile fuel onto the exterior of his vehicle isn't long for this world anyway, so no biggie ;)
Light of the Emperor
11-01-2007, 03:39
That is indeed the sentinel piece.
Haha, yeah no arms...mainly because I don't have any left! The vostroyans defy logic sometimes (wooden flamer anyone?) so it really isn't too hard to imagine something like this.
I'm fighting to finish the rest of my stuff, but I'm suprised to find myself a little burnt out. I keep telling myself WWTED: What Would The Emperor Do. Snakebite knows about it. With that thought in mind...I march on.
For Vostroya!
FearFrost
11-01-2007, 03:44
You can do it man, for the motherland!
Light of the Emperor
11-01-2007, 03:49
Indeed for the motherland...and the fatherland for good measure.
Tomorrow will be my third attempt at the banner bearer. This time, I'm changing the paint scheme.
FearFrost
11-01-2007, 04:00
Let me know if I can help.
Can't wait to see it man! I like the Sentinel, it would be nice to see you paint it though.
Light of the Emperor
12-01-2007, 18:47
I'm finishing up the last 4 vostroyans and made a start on the first heavy mortar. I'm pleased to say that no paint has pooled off the model. I was worried about the mold release agent, but a good wash combined with car primer did the trick.
It'll be painted in the Vostroyan green colors with metal details everywhere and then mounted on a 60mm base.
As soon as I can get my hands on a Witchunter servitor, a 2nd edition servitor and some cherubims, I'll be set to go! The mortar battery gets a banner too.
The sentinel looks really good...... I have made one of three, i will post a pic asap......
Cheers
Irfpio
Green-is-best
12-01-2007, 19:21
Very impressive! I'm usually not crazy about the Vostroyans, but you make them look great. I really dig the color scheme!
Green-is-best
12-01-2007, 19:25
Very impressive! I'm usually not crazy about the Vostroyans, but you make them look great. I really dig the color scheme!
Green-is-best
12-01-2007, 19:29
Very impressive! I'm usually not crazy about the Vostroyans, but you make them look great. I really dig the color scheme!
I really like that Sentinel LotE!
It really fits the Vostroyan idea.. does that flamer tube stays like the razor wire? or are you going to sculpt over it?
Anyways, I'm looking forward to see it painted.. :)
Light of the Emperor
13-01-2007, 03:01
Thanks!
I think I'm gonna keep the razorwire. My greenstuff skills are minimal at best so whatever I can use without needing greenstuff is perfect!
I'll be putting him up on ebay and see if he can fetch a good price. I've seen some coversions go quite high so who knows...maybe I'll be able to buy a battery of thudd guns!
Speaking of which, the mortar is nearly finished and is looking pretty good in my opinion. Its different from my other heavy weapons because most of it is painted in the Vostroyan Green rather than silver and golds. The wheel colors help tie it in to the rest of my force. This particular mortar will be finished tomorrow and I'll have pictures to go with it. It'll get a 2 man vostroyan crew and eventually the WH sage who "counts as" another guardsman.
Afterall, this is a 2nd edition throwback army...I need to put the "Imperial" back into Imperial Guard!
Oh and a question: Are thudd guns and heavy mortars allowed only for the DK, or can any guard army field them?
Cheers!
Light of the Emperor
13-01-2007, 15:24
The first Heavy Mortar is complete!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2996.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_2997.jpg
Nothing special painting wise, but it gets the job done. He'll get a 60mm base which is primed right now.
Cheers!
Any Guard army can have them., although bearing in mind they're FW models, a certain degree of give and take is expected between players using them, so I doubt it would be a problem even if they couldn't.
The Heavy mortar looks great, but can I recommend you apply a thin black and a yellow ink wash to the cogs and gears of the elevation mechanism. In reality they would be quite well greased and this replicats the appearance of machine grease quite well.
That Mortar looks really good in the green colours....
But i agree with GETZ, that you should grease the cogs and gears a bit, that would look the part....
Cheers
Irfpio
Light of the Emperor
13-01-2007, 16:24
And greased it shall be! Good point. Thanks.
orangesm
13-01-2007, 16:39
I think a base is needed as well, the grease will definitely help though.
scrubout
13-01-2007, 16:44
Perhaps the recoil like contraption too? Not sure on the proper name though...Looks nice though! I'm surprised how well the green turned out actually.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
schoolcormorant
13-01-2007, 16:46
if you're worried about rules for the artillery, why not take a DK list but use Vostroyans?
not sure how practical that is with your army though :)
SC
Perhaps the recoil like contraption too? Not sure on the proper name though...
They're called Recuperating Cylinders, or just plain old Recuperators...
scrubout
13-01-2007, 17:15
They're called Recuperating Cylinders, or just plain old Recuperators...
Ya, those things, um...shouldn't they get a little grease action goin' on too? I think it would look appropriate, but I'll leave it to Getz to give the final say on that kind of authenticity.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
FearFrost
13-01-2007, 19:13
Woohoo, progress! Nice work, I concur with some darkening of the gears and such.
Voronwe[MQ]
13-01-2007, 20:05
That heavy mortar looks awesome already. I knew the DKoK range-releases went well in with Vostroyans! The non-greased mortar looks realistic, as though it's directly out of the factory, and I suppose we'll see an equal good result with grease and mud after seeing your paintings. :)
Also, your painting guide was very helpful and the sentinel picks the beans, or how englishmen says.
Voronwe
old guard
13-01-2007, 20:38
The Mortar is superb and has me fighting the urge to start mine, looking forward to seing what you do about the crew, keep it going chap.
The Iron Duke
14-01-2007, 00:43
Looks nice, LotE. I agree about the greasing etc., and maybe some dirt on the wheels and so on. I can't remember and am too lazy to look it up - did you say you would have a cherub loading the mortar or something?
Light of the Emperor
14-01-2007, 02:01
I appreciate the comments guys :)
I will definately go back and put some weathering on the gears and recuperators.
I have three heavy mortars. The rules require 3 guardsman to man each mortar. I will use two and the third model will be a servitor of some sort. I'll get one of the second edition marine servitor thralls and have him holding mortar rounds. Another will feature the WH servitor calculating trajectories and printing out firing orders. Two of the mortars will feature cherubs loading the rounds...but that might be a while unless someone has spare flying babies lying around.
I have some servo skulls so they might come in as well.
I was talking to a guy at the store today and I might be able to get three original thudd guns along with a lot of various 2nd Ed. and RT guard models. I shall keep you all posted.
Light of the Emperor
15-01-2007, 01:51
Finished up my remaining vostroyans and inked the heavy mortar a bit:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_3005.jpg
How they look?
I'll make a 3rd attempt on the banner bearer next.
I'm in need of some stuff so maybe some of you guys could help me. I'm looking for the following:
-All the cherub models except the one holding the scroll
-2nd Ed. servitor
-Boltgun metal spray paint
-Empire drums, bugle/horn arms, banners
-Lizardmen feathers
I have a few things left to trade so let me know!
Cheers! :)
I have the WH Sage from the box. But I don't know exactly where it is and it is painted black. I can send you a fresh slot base with him because the one he is on is based as well.
Great looking army so far, i really like the heavy mortar and you have done it a great job. Your officer looks ace as well. This is a great army and what sets it out more is that it isn't the normal red....
You continue to impress! I love the mortars, and the sentinal is awesome.
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 09:51
The mortar fits perfectly in and looks very realistic. The idea of 'static-warfare' Vostroyans is an excellent theme which I really like.
Voronwe
WanderingRogue
15-01-2007, 10:16
Loving the project. Im inspired!! im gonna start my own. Primarily cos i have always liked the models, secondly your heavy weapon team ideas are so cool i have to use em, and thirdly, i can use them strait away as allies with my witch hunters.
The only (and i meanly only) thing i would critique would be the missile launcher tubes. Too unadorned for vostyians i think.
Keep it up
Gary
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 10:48
I'm seriously planning on starting my own towards the end of this year (or earlier if I'm able to do a number of oddjobs), although I'd like to have the platoon pack first. Inspiring? This thread should be recommended by Warseer! One idea you, LotE, gave me was to use missile launcher rules for field artillery. Back home I could scan the specific french piece I'd like to try to recreate (with your Heavy Weapons-construction and Ork pieces wheels) for a squad, but this'll have to suffice at the moment:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/FieldArtillery.jpg
Also: Vostroyan black.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/VostroyanII.jpg
And: Vostroyan grey.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyangrey.jpg
Voronwe
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 13:52
Damn three pictures limit.
And finally: Vostroyan head.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyanhead.jpg
I didn't mean to hijack anything, if you take it as such. My apologizes if that is the case.
Good luck!
Voronwe
Light of the Emperor
15-01-2007, 14:06
I appreciate the comments guys!
@WanderingRogue: definately start up some vostroyans. The more the merrier. The good thing about 40K is you have various "sub games" that allow you to build up your army. Going from Kill Team to Combat Patrol to a 1000 point game etc, allows you to field a force early and keep them going. Putting them in the WH is a good idea too. Remember to post some pictures when you make some!
@Voronwe[MQ]: Those sketches are pretty cool. I like the cheering vostroyan...if he's actually doing that. As for the cannon, that looks a lot like the ork one. You could use the chassis and add the shield front that comes with it and then stick an autocannon through it or something. The new empire artillery chassis might work as well. Feel free to post anything Vostroyan here. It helps not only myself find inspiration, but others too.
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 14:29
@WanderingRogue: definately start up some vostroyans. The more the merrier. The good thing about 40K is you have various "sub games" that allow you to build up your army. Going from Kill Team to Combat Patrol to a 1000 point game etc, allows you to field a force early and keep them going. Putting them in the WH is a good idea too. Remember to post some pictures when you make some!
Yes, that's a very good thing about the hobby, and especially so in 40k's case.
@Voronwe[MQ]: Those sketches are pretty cool. I like the cheering vostroyan...if he's actually doing that. As for the cannon, that looks a lot like the ork one. You could use the chassis and add the shield front that comes with it and then stick an autocannon through it or something. The new empire artillery chassis might work as well. Feel free to post anything Vostroyan here. It helps not only myself find inspiration, but others too.
Yep, he's cheering (at first it was struggling with a rebel citizen, but I was too lazy). :)
As for the sketches, I did them all in a hurry after taking a look on this very project log. I've been bitten by the Vostroyan fever, I suppose...
Thanks for the help, and I'll post anything Vostroyan here.
Voronwe
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 15:17
Vostroyan grenadier head. Ever thought of using Stormtroopers? ;)
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyangrenadierhead.jpg
Voronwe
rrchristensen
15-01-2007, 16:04
@ Light of the Emperor: I've been following this for a while and I just wanted to say that I adore this blog! I'm working on Vostroyans** myself and you're a real inspiration.
** Actually, my army is a regiment of Light Infantry household troops from a Knight World: no tanks, all platoons take the Light Infantry doctrine, Rough Riders are very much a presence, and the only vechicles allowed are Sentinels, which according to old fluff are just very tiny Knights, just as Knights are tiny Titans. It all works! Currently working on converting several squads of Rough Riders.
;1218624']Vostroyan grenadier head. Ever thought of using Stormtroopers? ;)
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyangrenadierhead.jpg
Voronwe
Superb! I've been thinking about using Death Korps of Krieg Storm Grenadiers as Vostryan Storm Troopers. Here's the link for easy reference: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/dkgren.htm
Now, I wouldn't normally think that the Death Corps was a very good match. But observe the Grenadiers. They have the same armored boots that many of the Vostroyans have (the normal DKOK have entirely inappropriate boots). The Grenadiers wear solid upper-body armor to which you can easily affix a few purity seals or greenstuff an Imperial Eagle, or add a rim all the way around to make it look more archaic. The armor itself may look a little plasteel-like, but paint it copper and it'll be suitably archaic. They've got armored shoulders, too, like the Vostroyans. Their hellguns are visibly different from the Vostroyan autoguns, so no can object that they're not hellguns (which might happen if you play WYSIWYG and you use plain Vostroyans as Storm Troopers/Grenadiers). They have a big honkin' rebreather/gill thingie on their backs, just like Vostroyans and a hose going to their masks. Admittedly their gas masks and helmets give them away, but a little greenstuff should sort that out- anyway, who says a skull-shaped rebreather is not a mark of honor among your Vostroyans? Just add a floppy fur shako and you're good to go. And if they're a little too similar-looking (compared to the wild variety of the Vostroyans), well hey, they're the elite and they get the very best gear. :D
now if only they weren't so expensive ... but you only need a squad or two.
Light of the Emperor
15-01-2007, 16:26
That sounds like a neat list rrchristensen!
I'm going only with infantry as well. Unfortunately, the GT rules don't allow forgeworld rules so all my heavy support selections are out the window. I guess some tanks will have to come in down the road.
Are you converting Vostroyan rough riders? And if so, how?
I like the picture of the grenadier! Its a neat idea but no stormies for me. My other army is nothing but stormtroopers and after 3+ years of using them...I don't want to see them anymore haha.
rrchristensen
15-01-2007, 18:01
That sounds like a neat list rrchristensen!
I'm going only with infantry as well. Unfortunately, the GT rules don't allow forgeworld rules so all my heavy support selections are out the window. I guess some tanks will have to come in down the road.
Are you converting Vostroyan rough riders? And if so, how?
I like the picture of the grenadier! Its a neat idea but no stormies for me. My other army is nothing but stormtroopers and after 3+ years of using them...I don't want to see them anymore haha.
the Rough Riders are in an early stage yet, and it's slow going, but the basic concept is a wild and varied bunch. I will however strive for a cohesive look even if the models are varied, by mixing parts – armored Outrider legs with Vostroyan torsos, Chaos Militia with traditional Attilan legs, etc.
Torsos:
Attilan Rough Riders with greenstuff hats (as seen on GW's website)
Vostroyans w/ CCWs (such as the standard sergeant, and also the Officers)
Vostroyans with Flamers (for making guys with melta guns)
The Vostroyan sniper with a rebreather (I think it was you who showed how to convert a sniper rifle into a melta gun?)
Forge World Chaos Militia - add some shakos ,fill in the Chaos marks with green stuff, voila!
and finally: Empire Outriders/Pistoliers - horses, holstered pistols, armored legs (just add a greenstuff coat), etc. Bearded heads, too. They'll be out in about two weeks.
Legs:
Attilan Rough Riders
Empire Outriders/Pistoliers (see above)
If you check out the Empire rumor section over in the WHFB section, you’ll see some close ups of the Outrider/Pistolier sprue. Very useful for Vostroyans, I think.
There will be two squads: one with CCWs & laspistols and two Meltas (as above), and one squad with hunting lances. Ultimately I'd love to have one with rifles as well, but there is so little reward to be had from this combination, game-wise, that I don't think I'll bother - even though they'd look so cool firing their autoguns from horseback.
Right now, the main problem seems to be one of height. I have cut the legs off two vostroyan torsos (a flamer and a platoon sergeant) and ground them down using my sharpened screw driver (a wonderful tool). Still, they are noticeably taller than the old Attilans. I am currently saving for some Chaos Militia and some Outriders – once I get them, I will compare the relative height of all the models and decide what to do. I don’t want to grind the Vostroyans down further until I get a chance to compare – maybe the old Attilans are just waaaay to short compared to newer models?
I do not mean to hijack your thread, of course, but would it be ok if I posted a shot of my mock-up, just to show you where I am going? I don’t think this warrants a project log of its own yet.
EDIT: just wanted to mention that I am purposely working towards not including shakos on everybody. This will lighten my workload. I'm planning to buy some Vostroyan Snipers and convert their guns into autoguns (or lasguns, same difference :-) ) by shortening the barrel. Simple work and once I include one or two in every Infantry Platoon it'll help diversify the squads a little and also show that not everyone wears a cone of dead animal follicles on their heads! :-) This will help integrate the non-Vostroyan models a bit more. In the case of Rough Riders made from Chaos Militia I imagine the shakos simply blew off during a charge.
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 18:10
A neat list indeed (though the released Vostroyan trooper models have all lasweapons). I'd argue that the skull masks only fits perfectly for Vostroyan elites/spearhead assault troops and that the armour does too. As you said, add a purity seal/Aquilla/rim and you're halfway down. I'll try to draw a better version of the Grenadier fur hat if you want to show the details. That said, if you'd want to sculpt them on the hats. ;)
Thanks for the kind comments on the grenadier, though the fur hat is almost double its own height and looks like a mass of rotten flesh. :)
Voronwe
rrchristensen
15-01-2007, 18:25
;1219025']A neat list indeed (though the released Vostroyan trooper models have all lasweapons). I'd argue that the skull masks only fits perfectly for Vostroyan elites/spearhead assault troops and that the armour does too. As you said, add a purity seal/Aquilla/rim and you're halfway down. I'll try to draw a better version of the Grenadier fur hat if you want to show the details. That said, if you'd want to sculpt them on the hats. ;)
Thanks for the kind comments on the grenadier, though the fur hat is almost double its own height and looks like a mass of rotten flesh. :)
Voronwe
sure, let's see your revised Vostroyans. You're quite good at drawing them - and as for the rotting mass of flesh, well that's how these guys lure in their prey over there on the Ukranian steppes^h^h^H^H I mean the ancient ruins of Vostroya. :rolleyes: "If you want to eat, look like a blob of dead meat", is a motto of the Vostroyans, I am sure.
The Rough Riders will fit in nicely with your approach.
i struggled to balance the horse painting well tho, heres mine, I dropped the lance idea for a more more mobile special weapons team, but I think the lance will suit yours to a tee!
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/jasevx/40k%20projects/15012007215.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/jasevx/40k%20projects/15012007214.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/jasevx/40k%20projects/15012007213.jpg
And yes, if you recognise the names, its the Magnificent Seven!
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 18:26
@mchristensen: Thanks. I'm sure of that too, atlhough you'd get an abnormally large amount of vultures and ravens on the plate! Tha'd also explain why the military gets fur hats since they're busy soldiering instead of masquerading as a heap of meat. Permissions might be rare on Vostroya, who knows? :D
Vostroyan grenadier fur hat decorations. Alright, I never seems to be able to do something which one are able to see. I hope you gets the idea despite them being thinned down. Hm. It might at second thought be better if I explains. The metal band going down from the centre of the top of the fur hat ends in a non-barbed Vostroyan arrow inside a V for Vostroya. There is also a holder for the grenadiers' chain on each side of the hat, on the metal band.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/SAVE0028.jpg
Voronwe
Light of the Emperor
15-01-2007, 19:24
@rrchristensen: I'd like to see your rough riders...particularly the chaos militia ones. I'm planning on using the Kislev gryphon legionairres. All they need are the shakos and they'll be perfect. Size, as you mentioned, might be an issue though.
@Voronwe[MQ]: Do you mind if I use that headress idea? I'm planning a super secret squad and that would be perfect to show their veteran status...did I just say veteran? Damn!
Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 19:28
Mind? Why should I? Can't see a single reason. Just glad to help. :)
As a side note, it'd good to practise some 'organisatorial' things concerning Vostroyans, and especially since I'll eventually start my own! :D
Voronwe
rrchristensen
15-01-2007, 20:49
@rrchristensen: I'd like to see your rough riders...particularly the chaos militia ones. I'm planning on using the Kislev gryphon legionairres. All they need are the shakos and they'll be perfect. Size, as you mentioned, might be an issue though.
@Voronwe[MQ]: Do you mind if I use that headress idea? I'm planning a super secret squad and that would be perfect to show their veteran status...did I just say veteran? Damn!
well, here's a link for all the good it may do you. The pics turned out to be crap and to top it off, I dropped and broke my camera. :cries: But I guess it was crap anyway. Cost a mint even in Walmart, though. Which is on the other side of the world, so I guess there'll be no warranty replacement.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/rrchristensen/HPIM0886.jpg
Enjoy :(
Oh I wish I could show you this mini for real. It's such a beauty. Will post better pictures when I get a new camera!
The Rough Riders will fit in nicely with your approach.
i struggled to balance the horse painting well tho, heres mine, I dropped the lance idea for a more more mobile special weapons team, but I think the lance will suit yours to a tee!
And yes, if you recognise the names, its the Magnificent Seven!
Thank you very much for sharing those pictures! :)
Stick with it, I've given up using my camera, my photos are on macro mode on my fone!
Hope to see you at a Golden Demon, the works on par with what I saw this year in the UK in the Squad catergories.;)
Light of the Emperor
16-01-2007, 03:37
You definately need to find someone with a camera ASAP because that rough rider looks really promising. I definately need to see how he's put together!
tancrede
16-01-2007, 07:05
as always, i'm still keeping an eye on this thread.
if you want some inspiration for vostroyan cavalry, i've something for you.
from a member a of french 40k community (the frenchwaaagh):
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5025/dscn5020hi5.jpg
and from an old 40k player, mister bruno grelier (many prizes at different golden demon, especially for his orks)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2829/bannieremakhnoparoldblogi8.jpg
Voronwe[MQ]
16-01-2007, 07:29
Vostroyan grenadier head II. It should look something like this with DKoK grenadiers, mchristensen.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/VostroyangrenadierheadII.jpg
Aquilla chainsword. An old idea of mine which I'm surprised GW hasn't used yet. I've thought about doing it in plasticard and green stuff, but I haven't ordered any plasticard yet.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Aquillachainsword.jpg
@tancrede: There is some nice Vostroyan cavalrists!
Voronwe
rrchristensen
16-01-2007, 10:30
as always, i'm still keeping an eye on this thread.
if you want some inspiration for vostroyan cavalry, i've something for you.
from a member a of french 40k community (the frenchwaaagh)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5025/dscn5020hi5.jpg
:eek: :eek:
I rest my case. This is EXACTLY what I want to do. No picture I can take can do justice compared to this!
;1220515']Vostroyan grenadier head II. It should look something like this with DKoK grenadiers, mchristensen.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/VostroyangrenadierheadII.jpg
VERY neat! Hmm, mayhaps my Vostroyans will have Storm Troopers after all ..
tancrede
16-01-2007, 10:36
I rest my case. This is EXACTLY what I want to do. No picture I can take can do justice compared to this!
if i remember correctly what he said, he used the torsos of the vostroyan sergeant and officers, and the rest (legs, lances,...) comes from attila rough rider.
Voronwe[MQ]
16-01-2007, 11:44
Vostroyan artillerist head. Note the bionic eye and the small flame inside the Vostroyan V (perhaps something of an emblem for the Vostroyan artillery corps? it could be used on the heavy mortar, Earthshaker and quad launcher crews).
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyanartilleristhead.jpg
Also, LotE, why don't you just use your heavy mortars and quad launchers as normal mortars in a heavy waepons platoon during GTs? The third crewmembers could make up the platoon command squad.
VERY neat! Hmm, mayhaps my Vostroyans will have Storm Troopers after all ..
Glad to help FW take your money! :D
Voronwe
Angel Robertson
16-01-2007, 11:57
Nice sketches i really like the idea of the fire in the V! COuld work really nicely.
AR
Voronwe[MQ]
16-01-2007, 12:06
Thanks! Well, we seems to be running a whole page of LotE's project log all by ourselves without even an update. He'll get something to read and look at when he gets to the omputer, at least. ;)
Chainsabre. I knew there is a chainsabre for the Atillan Rough Rider sergeant, so I thought I should draw something fast.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Chainsabre.jpg
Voronwe
rrchristensen
16-01-2007, 12:33
if i remember correctly what he said, he used the torsos of the vostroyan sergeant and officers, and the rest (legs, lances,...) comes from attila rough rider.
That would be my guess also from looking at the models. Oh, and Space Marine Assault Squad meltabombs.
;1220983']
Also, LotE, why don't you just use your heavy mortars and quad launchers as normal mortars in a heavy waepons platoon during GTs? The third crewmembers could make up the platoon command squad.
Very clever idea! I plan to mount my extra Heavy Weapon Platoons guys on separate bases ON the big bases (as seen in the GW Vostroyan conversion article), - when I use basic guys with lasguns as loaders, I mean - so I can remove them if they're not needed and put them in infantry squads or command platoons.
In fact, I think there's a lascannon loader with binoculars who will soon find himself joining the anti-tank unit of Rough Riders! The hand holding hte las-cell is perfectly positioned for holding on to the reins of the horse instead. A little careful sawing and filing will see him right. I'll just slap a scabbarded sword on him to round him out. He'd also make the PERFECT Rough Rider vox-operator if I wanted one of those.
Hey, it's all about finding ways of saving money. These guys aren't exactly cheap. AND of doing even more extensive modelling in the process!
Voronwe[/QUOTE]
;1221027']Thanks! Well, we seems to be running a whole page of LotE's project log all by ourselves without even an update. He'll get something to read and look at when he gets to the omputer, at least. ;)
Voronwe
Hehee. LotE where aaaare youuuu? :D But seriously, this is a great thread. I'm glad some more of us came out of the woodwork to share our ideas. Of course, the great LotE is our lord and master. We go away if he tells us to.
Looking good i wish i could get on the comp a bit more like i used to. But now i can start doing my SM again. But a social life means a good life :)
Can't wait for more pics. All those sketchs are awesome!
Light of the Emperor
16-01-2007, 13:38
Woah, I wake up and find a whole new page of stuff!
@tancrede: Thanks for posting those RR. That is definately the way to go because the officers are easier to cut at the torso. That still involves a lot of converting and sculpting to fill in gaps and smooth things out.
@voronwe: Good ST concept. Looking at the picture, it can definately be pulled off. So if anyone does them, show us some pictures! Your artillery emblem gave me an idea. A sytlized Vostroyan "V" with a round bomb in between and a small flame as the fuse. Typical design yes, but it fits artillery/ ordinance quite well.
I'm glad there's more ideas coming in...good stuff!
I'm working on the banner bearer so updates on him in the next couple of days. Classes start again today so until I get the routines and work loads down pat, my updates probably won't feature alot of finished stuff.
Cheers!
Voronwe[MQ]
16-01-2007, 14:49
Can't wait for more pics. All those sketchs are awesome!
Thanks! I'll try to get some idea to get down on paper. Have you got any Vostroyan idea or concept at the moment? It seems I've been stung be the Vostroyan (it can be as mad is it want, or be level-odd such as Vostroyan Astropaths, Tech-Priest Engineseer or a Techtriarch, or just something out of common-to-common life on Vostroya - might be hard for me, but still - or something military. anything goes!) frost-fever. ;)
Very clever idea! I plan to mount my extra Heavy Weapon Platoons guys on separate bases ON the big bases (as seen in the GW Vostroyan conversion article), - when I use basic guys with lasguns as loaders, I mean - so I can remove them if they're not needed and put them in infantry squads or command platoons.
Good, that'll make for some cheapness.
In fact, I think there's a lascannon loader with binoculars who will soon find himself joining the anti-tank unit of Rough Riders! The hand holding hte las-cell is perfectly positioned for holding on to the reins of the horse instead. A little careful sawing and filing will see him right. I'll just slap a scabbarded sword on him to round him out. He'd also make the PERFECT Rough Rider vox-operator if I wanted one of those.
Ah, that's a good idea, certainly! You've got to show us pictures, regardless of it taking three years or three days.
Hey, it's all about finding ways of saving money. These guys aren't exactly cheap. AND of doing even more extensive modelling in the process!
True, very, very true. :)
Hehee. LotE where aaaare youuuu? <grins> But seriously, this is a great thread. I'm glad some more of us came out of the woodwork to share our ideas. Of course, the great LotE is our lord and master. We go away if he tells us to.
Of course! Oh, as an aside, all my drawings was made yesterday and today, so I've had no in store, as to say.
Woah, I wake up and find a whole new page of stuff!
Not everyday one does!
@voronwe: Good ST concept. Looking at the picture, it can definately be pulled off. So if anyone does them, show us some pictures!
Won't be me who's first (if I do them), or at least not this year and probably not next. rrchristensen, hurry up, open you wallet! :D
Your artillery emblem gave me an idea. A stylized Vostroyan "V" with a round bomb in between and a small flame as the fuse. Typical design yes, but it fits artillery/ ordinance quite well.
Fits it perfectly. Glad it stuck!
I'm glad there's more ideas coming in...good stuff!
There'll be more, I hope. Anyone reading this that has got an idea?
I'm working on the banner bearer so updates on him in the next couple of days. Classes start again today so until I get the routines and work loads down pat, my updates probably won't feature alot of finished stuff.
Good luck with it... both the banner bearer and the classes. Hope you survives the last one. :D
Voronwe
Maybe with conversion these could work as something: link (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120202019&orignav=13)
WanderingRogue
16-01-2007, 21:02
exactly what i was thinking... horses, the legs and some attilan bodys arms, a vosties head and a bit of green stuff... e viola!!!
Light of the Emperor
17-01-2007, 04:14
We really should start a Vostroyan thread somewhere. I've seen a vossie tank thread and a color scheme thread, but we need one that encompasses everything. It'll allow us to cover paint schemes, artwork, conversions, tactics, fluff, etc. Perhaps in the General painting forum? It'll get a lot of views there and the updates from all the Vostroyan commanders around here will keep it from going too far back.
Whoever is up for that, go for it. I'll help out too.
There's quite a few of us actually: Iron Duke, Snakebite, Voronwe, rrchristensen, irfpio, myself...who am I missing?
All of you vossie commanders should put the phrase I have in my sig in yours. A few of us already have it...but a few more wouldn't hurt.
Hopefully I'll get some work done because I can't have you guys showing me up like that! ;)
Cheers!
Arch-Traitor Horus
17-01-2007, 05:15
Lote your vossies have made me want to start one (after my dark angels and dark eldar of course) they will be a snow/city painted army
scrubout
17-01-2007, 05:36
There's quite a few of us actually: Iron Duke, Snakebite, Voronwe, rrchristensen, irfpio, myself...who am I missing?
Always me...c'mon mate, their purple for Emperor's sake! If someone makes a thread I'll contribute with some of my pics.
Can't wait to see how you've redone the bearer.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
Voronwe[MQ]
17-01-2007, 06:32
Well, actually I do not yet own any Vostroyans (have always been tempted - and now more than ever. aargh!), though I do have three bases with sculpted Vostroyan fur hats on (because my brother will not let me sculpt a whole Vostroyan trooper before I'm finished with his Shadow Stalker). The latest one I did yesterday; it's the veteran/grenadier one, and I'll post pictures here (and in the Vostroyan General discussion thread) as soon as Nordea sends me the new conto-number so I can buy the digital camera I've planned. I'll of course start Vostroyans, but right now all I can bring up would be a blister pack the next time we goes to a city with a shop that houses blister packs to, since our local video games store doesn't. ;)
As for the phrase, it's been put! :)
Vostroyan pilot. This is something I've been pondering about. I think the look fits them.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyanpilot.jpg
Vostroyan artillerist. Notice the variant artillery corps' bomb-and-flame-as-fuse that LotE probably'll use.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/Vostroyanartillerist.jpg
Voronwe
Light of the Emperor
17-01-2007, 14:02
@scrubout: ah yes the purple. I completely forgot...my fault. I had just come back from 6 hours of classes with the same professor so you gotta give me a break ;) .
@Voronwe: Would you be kind enough to sketch that artillery logo for me? The stylized "V" with the bomb and flame fuse?
@arch-traitor-horus: You know what? Skip the DA and go directly to DE. They need the love more. Then go with the vossies.
orangesm
17-01-2007, 14:46
LotE just saw these dont know if you have or not, but Cherub (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/empire/extras/gerneralbuilder/default.htm) are on the Empire General sprue. Granted this is not a cheap way to buy the Cherubs, but it does mean that there will be people with them lying around.
Voronwe[MQ]
17-01-2007, 16:33
Would you be kind enough to sketch that artillery logo for me? The stylized "V" with the bomb and flame fuse?
Sure! Here it is:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/SAVE0030.jpg
Not a good one by any means. One might get the idea of how to sculpt it, though.
Voronwe
Finished up my remaining vostroyans and inked the heavy mortar a bit:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_3005.jpg
How they look?
I'll make a 3rd attempt on the banner bearer next.
I'm in need of some stuff so maybe some of you guys could help me. I'm looking for the following:
-All the cherub models except the one holding the scroll
-2nd Ed. servitor
-Boltgun metal spray paint
-Empire drums, bugle/horn arms, banners
-Lizardmen feathers
I have a few things left to trade so let me know!
Cheers! :)
I totally missed this! Looks awesome. Your army is coming along great. You sir, keep me motivated. :)
Light of the Emperor
18-01-2007, 20:47
I just came up with this real quick based on Voronwe's initial concept:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/000_0093.jpg
This will become the official emblem of my army. Its far from done though. I need to find a photoshop wizard who can make it look better and add laurels, scrolls, text, etc.
The bomb and fuse are old symbols of artillery. Since my army theme centers around artillery (mostly mortars), this symbol is the perfect fit.
My army is called the 11th Vostroyan Imperial Artillery Regiment. Part of the name comes from the 11th "Imperial" Air Defense Artillery Brigade that has an illustrious history and most recently participated in the opening stages of OIF, taking down 8 scud missiles.
I have a lot of background info that I want to write for this army. When I do, I'll post it here.
In other news, the third time might just be the charm in reference to the banner bearer. He is near completion and I'm happy with him.
Pictures up tomorrow.
Awesome. Looks great. Yeah, I wish I had some Photoshop guru's of my own. ;)
I look forward to the standard bearer.
Colonel Stagler
18-01-2007, 23:03
Amazing vostroyans man, one of my best gaming mates has vostroyans but theyre the same red colour as most people tend to do them. I love your mortar but the only thing i dont like is that its on a base. I think that artillery units look better without bases tbh. Anyway, excuse my rude mouthing, amazing army, amazing paint job, excellent!
FearFrost
18-01-2007, 23:58
I dig the symbol. Im not quite a photoshop guru, but I may be able to help, if you dont need it done right away ;)
cpl_hicks
19-01-2007, 00:24
This will become the official emblem of my army. Its far from done though. I need to find a photoshop wizard who can make it look better and add laurels, scrolls, text, etc.
The bomb and fuse are old symbols of artillery. Since my army theme centers around artillery (mostly mortars), this symbol is the perfect fit.
heres something i quickly knocked up (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/cpl_hicks/v.jpg)
Light of the Emperor
19-01-2007, 01:00
@Colonel Stagler: I was 50-50 on the base but decided to use it in order to tie the mortar in with my other heavy weapons. The bases will get a lot of detail added once the majority of the models are done.
@cpl_hicks: Nice, thanks! If you want to continue messing around with it, feel free to do so. I could describe some of the ideas to you.
Alrighty, he's still a WIP, but:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_3008.jpg
I need to add a weapon and clean up some of the errors on the inner banner portion. I also will add some highlights to the darker green trim.
Anyone have any ideas as to how I paint the cords?
scrubout
19-01-2007, 01:33
Go for the golden yellow approach I think. Either that or white wouldn't be too bad either I think.
-peace out
scrubout:skull:
I agree on the Yellow, or red, but that might look Xmassy.
BTW; your model went out today.
Light of the Emperor
19-01-2007, 16:10
Cool, thanks again Astador!
It was a tough battle, but I think I won this time around. I'm still not satisfied with him, but its not enough to warrent another stripping.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_3011.jpg
Finished Overall Command:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/100_3010.jpg
In other news, I think I finally have an idea as to a Vostroyan tank. I call it the "Monitor" pattern Russ. If anyone can figure out as to why it has that name, they get a cookie :)
because it was a swot at school?
I used to be a school monitor! :)
Boss_Salvage
19-01-2007, 17:24
Because it's an ol' ironsides?
Anyway, I think the banner came out nicely, and I like that mega-mortar too, also missed that somehow.
- Salvage
schoolcormorant
19-01-2007, 17:36
isn't it a lizard? probably spelt diffrently. either that or it;s recon'ish.
SC
Light of the Emperor
19-01-2007, 17:42
Boss_Salvage is very close.
The monitor is indeed a lizard, but its not the monitor I'm thinking of. The Russ will have a very distinctive feature...hence the "monitor" name.
I just came up with this real quick based on Voronwe's initial concept:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Wicked_Cold/000_0093.jpg
This will become the official emblem of my army. Its far from done though. I need to find a photoshop wizard who can make it look better and add laurels, scrolls, text, etc.
The bomb and fuse are old symbols of artillery. Since my army theme centers around artillery (mostly mortars), this symbol is the perfect fit.
What do you want to do with this exactly? I will knock up something for you tomorrow morning if you want although I will do it in illustrator as opposed to photoshop so it will be vector outline.
Are you going to use it to paint a banner - i think vector would be best for this.
Also best if you want to get transfers made or it brass etched (although this requires a bit of extra stuff)
Let me know what kind of thing you are thinking of and what you want to use it for/what size you want it. Girlfriend off for floatation tank session tomorrow (!) so have a bit of free time to mess around...
don't know how the whole pm thing works as i'm new to warseer so either pm me or post here...
oh forgot to say - i love your army and really enjoy this project log...
My guess is you are going to mount a turrent resembling this....which would look bad ****!!! :D
http://www.wcc.at/civil-war/navy/img/USSMonitor.jpg
Light of the Emperor
19-01-2007, 18:19
By the Emperor, Aalok's got it! A cookie for him! Boss_Salvage earns an honorable mention.
Indeed, I plan on making a rounded turret and will use empire cannons.
@Escobar: Thanks! If you could design something that'd be awesome. Use whatever program you feel works best. I'd like the "V" to be either in the style I sketched or in some gothic/old german font (I'd like to see the latter). The bomb in the middle would be black with a black fuse exactly like the sketch. My regiment is the 11th so that number needs to be in there somewhere as well. As for colors, I'd like both the red and my vostroyan green incorporated.
It needs a 40K look to it too, so feel free to add scrolls, skulls, wings etc...have fun with it.
no worries - going to start on it now...
latter and former - always get these two confused - is it a gothic/germanic font?
glenning
19-01-2007, 18:33
Great thread, and I really like the figs! Green fits the Vostroyans very good. :)
Light of the Emperor
19-01-2007, 18:34
@glenning: Thanks! I really like the way the green came out. Catachan and camo are a great combo.
@Escobar: Latter means the last one (or in this case second). So yeah I think an old germanic font would look cool.
I plan on making a rounded turret and will use empire cannons.
That will look great - i used the Empire mortar for my Demolisher, which looks great....
The Standard bearer turned out really good!
Cheers
Irfpio
here are the first versions of the icon - few different variations - which do you prefer:
11 or 11th
V will split right side or V with complete right side
also second image shows where I'm going with it - scroll is something i had lying around on my computer - needs to be 40k'ed up big time. Also will add laurels, skulls etc...
and if you have any script you want to say...
Just doing black and white at the moment - will look at colour tomorrow...
hope you like :)
off out to a gig - just let me know what you all think and i'll pick it up in the morning
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