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Its vegimite mate :D applied with a blister pack sponge, sprayed or painted over the top, let the paint dry, then wash the models in warm soapy water. voila :D
Cheers
Sheep
Its vegimite mate :D applied with a blister pack sponge, sprayed or painted over the top, let the paint dry, then wash the models in warm soapy water. voila :D
Cheers
Sheep
hmmm... for us non-Aussies ;) here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegemite)
well... anything similar we can use here in the States? :(
edit; after reading my own link... anything similar and more common we can find here in the states without trying to find a specialty foods store in the middle of Bumfuct-nowheres-ville?
according to this article [URL]http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20641599-1702,00.html{/URL] you can by it in the states, it is an old article though. Another produst is marmite, and its very similar, unsure as to its availablity in the states either though sorry.
Cheers
Sheep
I'm sure it's available somewhere, just not anywhere near me for a good 300+ miles in any direction... DANGIT!!
So, just have to figure out something more commonly available with the same ease of use.... table salt, here I come...
Good luck, let me know how you go.
Cheers
Sheep
So some pics of what i've been working on. Finished a Tyranid army (zilla list, only 27 models)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Finishedgroup001.jpg
Theres another carni not in this pic.
Cheers
Sheep
Well heres everything else i've worked on in my onternet hiatus.
So everyone knows about black reach, well heres my marines from that box, 2 weeks work, not my best but they're done until i get the urge to battle damage them up.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Stuff/Newstuff004.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Stuff/Newstuff003.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Stuff/Newstuff001.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Stuff/Newstuff006.jpg
Nothing spectacular, but they were quick and easy.
Light of the Emperor
10-10-2008, 04:09
Woo go Sheep go!
Love the carapace on the nids.
As far as the weathering goes, salt works just as well. Dampen the area, put the salt on and spray. When dry, scrape it off with a toothbrush. No Australian foodstuffs needed!
You Ammobunker-ians need to get back over here from time to time!
The Occult
10-10-2008, 04:29
Awesome nids! The I.F. are pretty sweet too, but I have a soft spot in me for nidzilla lists.
Do you have any close ups of the carnifexes and tyrants?
Cheers!
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Finishedgroup001.jpg
Definitely want to see more of this! I take it the winged Carnifex model is a Tyrant, so is that a Carnifex with the old Tyrant head?
Always did love the Behemoth scheme. If you've got to go with a stock scheme, might as well do the best one. ;)
EDIT: Wait... there's two with the Tyrant head, and they have modified armored forearms and are on medium bases. Tyrant Guards?
got it in one mate, the 3rd ed tyrants are used as guard, i did three of them. Heres some individual pics.
Carni one.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Finished004.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Finished003.jpg
Stealers squad one.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Finished002.jpg
#2
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Genestealers003.jpg
TBC
Walking tyrant
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Hivetyrantsquadfinished001.jpg
Guard
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Hivetyrantsquadfinished003.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Hivetyrantsquadfinished006.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Hivetyrantsquadfinished008.jpg
TBC
Broodlord
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Genestealers001.jpg
Group
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Hivetyrantsquadfinished010.jpg
Carni 2
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Carni001.jpg
Lictor #1
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/lictor2001.jpg
Lictor #2
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/lictor001.jpg
Flyrant
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/tyrant007.jpg
There you go guys :D
Hope you like them
Cheers
Sheep
The Occult
10-10-2008, 07:36
Totally awesome!
Okay here is how it went for me:
There is all these Tyranid Pictures, and the models look really nice, I scroll further down, even more nids, even nicer... but then in the very last pic there is this small dkok soldier and he steals the show ... big time :D
I dont know it is just something about the pose and your painting on him and that base, he is just awesome and in my book he just killed the whole swarm :D
Anyway... Awesome stuff sheep, still most impressed by your tank-weathering. Keep it up!
gonzosbignose
10-10-2008, 08:24
Sheep
Whenever i look over your blogs, i always find myself looking at page 1 first, cos i love your early guard pics there....
But today... ive been more outstanded by your Nids. The scheme looks fabulous on them, and i love what you have done with the old Tyrants as bodyguard!
All in all they look amazing.
Regards
My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer
Thanks alot guys, really glad you like them :D
Gonzo: after your comment i went back and looked at the first few pages, i really like that scheme too, and i can't remember why i stopped doing it. I may just have to resurect it at some point :D
Cheers
Sheep
D35t0y3r
12-10-2008, 04:05
TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED!! someone liking an old paint scheme in a huge plog. great models as always.
-Jason
Cassarus
12-10-2008, 08:27
very nice stuff!
Monsterzonk
12-10-2008, 08:40
Those 'Nids are really cool! I especially like their poses. What about your Death Korps? Any update soon?
Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:
Almindale
12-10-2008, 08:43
Phwoar! I just read through the whole log and I'm very impressed! Amazing variety so far and really great work Sheep. And a fellow Aussie too :D I'm subscribed for sure, looking forward to more great work.
nice to see a flyrant with the correct number of arms ;) great work! and i have to echo many of the comments about the colour scheme - behemoth FTW!
Thankyou all :D
Synapse: I know, thats one of the things that annoy me most about the flyrant conversions i've seen other people do too many arms.
Cheers
Sheep
Colonel Haizelhoff
12-10-2008, 10:27
Great stuff with the nidzilla sheep. the carapace is certainly my favorite bit of the color scheme, and that Flyrant is soooo badass.
All I can say is THANK YOU! You have given me so much inspiration for my cityfight-tanks, the bigger turrets on the LRs and the use of optics make me wanna make some armoured veichles! I would love to see some closeups on the turrets from above.
And I must say that your Exterminator is the best one i have ever seen.
Cheers and keep up the good work!
Nice work on all the nids mate they look awesome and your imperial fists are absoloutely amazing.
Dictator
14-10-2008, 03:12
AWesome looking nids. Love the scheme and classy paint job.
Sheep, lovely. LOVELY.
But why do I keep thinking you're one of the Brits?
Thanks guys, really glad you all like them.
I've almost finished anothe 8 stealers, i have to get them and another 8 done for a tournament in 2 weeks. Orktoberfest.
The list will hopefully be:
Flyrant w/everything
2xlictors
36xstealers with scuttlers and hooks
3x carni's w/everything
=1750pts
What do you think?
Faolan: I used to muck around with Jasevx, schoolcormorant, digitsdave and some other minor warseer celebrities, and i'm active on the ammobunker, a majority UK based forum. I dunno mate :D I love vegimite and Tooheys extra dry if it endorses my Aussie-ness ;)
Cheers
Sheep
I love the tyrant guard, that's an awesome use of the old hive tyrants.
*chuckle*
Only an Aussie would drink Aussie beer. That proves it to me, mate.
You know, I have the 'nids out of a BFM box around here that the missus was going to play with painting on and never did, I might part with 'em extremely easily.
Thanks mate. Pm sent :D
Cheers
Sheep
Almindale
15-10-2008, 07:24
Go the TEDs drinkers :D Btw sheep, which state you based in?
This is turning into a Beer appreciation thread :D
I'm in North/eastern NSW.
Cheers
Sheep
D35t0y3r
15-10-2008, 08:49
BOOOOOOO, NSW, boooo
oh yeah, and nid's look good too
-Jason
gonzosbignose
15-10-2008, 08:59
BOOOOOOO, NSW, boooo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Regards
My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer
Almindale
16-10-2008, 08:19
If you're ever in Brisbane give me a yell and we'll appreciate some beers at a pub somewhere :P
Funny you say that, i'm coming up for ORKtoberfest next weekend, 25th/26th. Are you playing?
Cheers
Sheep
Almindale
17-10-2008, 08:12
Lol what are the odds, I'm actually in Melbourne for that weekend :P Good luck though!!
Well i've been painting for the tournament, and i've managed to finish 16 stealers in 2 weeks! The most productive i think i've ever been.
Heres a pic of the finished models in the display case.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Nidsall003.jpg
Hope you like it :D
Cheers
Sheep
Rhaivaen
21-10-2008, 07:55
Looks massive.. nice :eek::rolleyes::D wish i had a finished, playable army...:chrome:
Thanks mate, its a great feeling :D
Cheers
Sheep
ReaperOfSouls
22-10-2008, 08:22
All your stuff are looking great, but that last nid army shot is spectacular. Can't wait till my nids get all painted up so I can have something similar in my cabinet :)
Colonel Jacka
22-10-2008, 09:18
I love Vegemite and Tooheys extra dry if it endorses my Aussie-ness
As you should mate!
Only an Aussie would drink Aussie beer. That proves it to me, mate..
Faolan,
:eyebrows: That proves it me mate you must be American. Only an Aussie would use the username of Sheep! And only a Aussie Hmmmmm or a New Zealander would know that! :D
Well I've been painting for the tournament, and I've managed to finish 16 stealer's in 2 weeks! The most productive i think I've ever been. Hope you like it
I hate "Nids"! :mad: But of course they are very well painted Sheep me old mate! How about that Vegemite! Great stuff puts rose on your cheeks! :D
Haha they look awesome matey, the scheme is very nice indeed. :D
Cassarus
22-10-2008, 11:24
thats allot of nasty creature's, great job!
PLEASE restart the guard from the first page!
Thanks all, glad you like it!
I hate "Nids"! :mad: But of course they are very well painted Sheep me old mate! How about that Vegemite! Great stuff puts rose on your cheeks! :D
Love the stuff, 4 pieces of toast every morning before work :D Goes great on tanks too ;)
PLEASE restart the guard from the first page!
I'm thinking about it since i just "finished" the nids, you never really finish an army, but they're done enough to play with.
Cheers
Sheep
great army. I love the blue on the nids...
Rhaivaen
23-10-2008, 12:30
hey Cyrus, hehe, nog een Nederlander, leuk om die hier te zien, 't zijn er niet veel kennelijk,
Sorry Sheep, but i thought i would address a fellow countryman in my own lang.:rolleyes:
IncrediSteve
23-10-2008, 15:49
PLEASE restart the guard from the first page!
I second this notion :p
Even if you can't give them all the MP7 style autoguns, it's a gorgeous scheme, and that Heavy weapons team is inspiring...
Maybe the MP7s could go in with veterans and assault units, and then give the rank and file regular full stock autoguns? The little bit of extra length shouldn't disrupt the imagery too much, kind of like some G36's into the mix as well.
Nice graphic :D The vets are all going to be armed with either shotguns or plasma guns so no dice there, but it could be good for variation in the squads.
Thanks for the ideas, i'll have to dig out the guard box and see what i have.
Cheers
Sheep
Really nice Nid army you have there, Sheep, really like ur work on the Guard Nids in particular :)
Its good to see a 'completed' army on the threads, quite rare really hehe! Kudos. Oh and by the way, your Imperial Fists look grand too, great stuff!
Heres a pic of the finished models in the display case.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/Nidsall003.jpg
Went to a tournament with them over the weekend.
Pic of the venue:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Stuff/Image002.jpg
List was
Flyrant
2x lictors
33x stealers w/scuttlers & hooks
3x carnis with everything
Went pretty well. 2 wins, 2 losses and a draw.
Came 15th out of 74. So reasonably happy :)
Was really inspired by a painted krieg army that a bloke was playing with, have decided to get some heavies for them off the back of how good the models looked in person. And i'm going to be painting them differently to the white ones already done, the scheme basically bores me, so i'm combining the 2 guard armies i've done, and am going to do them in the orange oak leaf camo.
I know this will make them look like german SS, and I don't care!
I'll hopefully have a test mini done in the next couple of days, work and GF permitting.
Cheers
Sheep
But like, OMG Sheep, if you do an army with historically themed camo, it must mean you hate jews and slavs!
Rhaivaen
26-10-2008, 22:15
Praexes, why do you say this?????
I love the looks of the german armor of WWII, does that make me a similar type that you describe? NO, it makes me like something that looks ok, and has nothing to do with ideology or anything in that sphere...
ReaperOfSouls
26-10-2008, 22:26
Praexes, why do you say this?????
I love the looks of the german armor of WWII, does that make me a similar type that you describe? NO, it makes me like something that looks ok, and has nothing to do with ideology or anything in that sphere...
Relax, I'm going to put my money on Praexes being just a slight bit sarcastic in his post ;) Other than that i must say the tyranids are still looking great and I also think it's great we get to see the return of the dreaded Death korps :)
Brother_Chaplian Raimo
26-10-2008, 22:47
Praexes, why do you say this?????
It's called sarcasm, and it's fairly popular in real life these days. Learn it, and you won't look quite so oblivious.
On a more topic-related note, Sheep deserves millions of internets. At least.
Rhaivaen
26-10-2008, 23:03
It's called sarcasm, and it's fairly popular in real life these days. Learn it, and you won't look quite so oblivious.
On a more topic-related note, Sheep deserves millions of internets. At least.
Internet posting does not convey across correctly the sarcasm he might have intended, and i think its sloppy to make such a "sarcastic remark"..
I live in the U.K., and its sarcasm all the way here, i do know what sarcasm is about and am not oblivious, thankyouverymuch.
Brother_Chaplian Raimo
26-10-2008, 23:14
Honestly, do you think anyone is that stupid? In what manner is his sarcasm unnecessarily subtle? He even "like" and "omg"- that's pretty blatantly sarcastic. Also, "convey across" is redundant.;)
Rhaivaen
26-10-2008, 23:17
Honestly, do you think anyone is that stupid? In what manner is his sarcasm unnecessarily subtle? He even "like" and "omg"- that's pretty blatantly sarcastic. Also, "convey across" is redundant.;)
Whatever:p, i do make grammar mistakes now and then, English is a 2nd language, but on average my English is better then that of many resident English people, as they tell me themselves. :rolleyes:
Brother_Chaplian Raimo
26-10-2008, 23:22
Now, see, that was me being sarcastic. What were we talking about again?
What have I unleashed?! :P
Brother_Chaplian Raimo
26-10-2008, 23:47
Precisely seven posts of useless banter, which will no doubt be deleted in due course. Such is life, I suppose.
Well that went a alittle of track didn't it ;)
For better or worse i just resprayed the finished winter korps :'(
Work will soon comence on the reimagined korps :D
Cheers
Sheep
Rhaivaen
27-10-2008, 10:07
Yea well, inattentive sarcasm sometimes does that ;)
In general you don't make jokes on that kind of subject (hint), specially on the net, where some details get lost when the body language and tone of voice cant be transferred, and that makes the joke not funny in some peoples eyes.
Anyway, enough about that, and sorry, Sheep, to kick dust in your log.
Congrats on your 15th place anyway, and yes, we would like to se more Death Korps of Krieg... thats what u started with :rolleyes::p
Sheep, you have way too bloody much patience if you're going to paint the fall camo scheme.
Although I'll be honest, I don't think greatcoats lend themselves to camo smocks, but I look forward to you proving me wrong.
Tommygun
27-10-2008, 12:02
I'll second Faolon. I have done the Autumn camo on a few 1/35 scale figures.
It's a fun pattern, but you'll go blind and mad painting a whole company of Guard.
You will have a great army when they come and take you to the mental ward.;)
Sheep, your work is AMAZING!
Personally im in love with the autumn-camo and was sad to see you repaint that awesome Exterminator into a Commisar-tank, but this is just me since all your work just spells out "quality".
Please start painting guard again soon, while the tyranids are great I loved the start you made to your guard army!
Cheers,
Dante
I come bearing pics.
Thankyou all for the encouagement and comments. I hope you like it :D
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKTest2.jpg
Cheers
Sheep
Monsterzonk
28-10-2008, 08:56
Nice work! I initially didn't think that camo scheme would work on Krieg greatcoats, but it does!
And I really don't care about them looking like Waffen SS. C'mon, German Panzers also looked far cooler than those Shermans, and since it's just the looks you are copying, everything's fine. Actually the Death Korps design pretty closely resembles early 20th century Germans...
One question remains, though: What about your tanks? Will they be re-painted in the new old scheme? I must say, your vehicles looked really badass in that camo...
Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:
Rhaivaen
28-10-2008, 10:14
I come bearing pics.
Thankyou all for the encouagement and comments. I hope you like it :D
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKTest2.jpg
Cheers
Sheep
Wauw, amazing, hehe, can you do us a step by step, with what colours etc.? so we can have a go as well ;),
interesting to see imo that the black helmet, although unintended probably, fits nicely with the coat.
Tommygun
28-10-2008, 10:14
That is really beautiful work.....But you'll still go mad I tell you!;)
Nice work! I initially didn't think that camo scheme would work on Krieg greatcoats, but it does!
And I really don't care about them looking like Waffen SS. C'mon, German Panzers also looked far cooler than those Shermans, and since it's just the looks you are copying, everything's fine. Actually the Death Korps design pretty closely resembles early 20th century Germans...
One question remains, though: What about your tanks? Will they be re-painted in the new old scheme? I must say, your vehicles looked really badass in that camo...
Cheers,
Monsterzonk
The uniforms were designed by Hugo boss after all :D I love the camo pattern, and think it looks great, I will finish a couple of tanks in the Berliner scheme, enough for a 1750pt AC. I'll have to come up with something else for the Kreig, i'm thinking grey or ambush pattern.
Wauw, amazing, hehe, can you do us a step by step, with what colours etc.? so we can have a go as well,
interesting to see imo that the black helmet, although unintended probably, fits nicely with the coat.
I'll work on a tut when i finish the first guy.
It's completely intentional :D
That is really beautiful work.....But you'll still go mad I tell you!
I already am i think, for even considering it. But whatever i finish will look great i'm sure :)
Work progresses apace, I have a new love, Devlan wash! It is instant win in a bottle.
Cheers
Sheep
Rhaivaen
28-10-2008, 10:57
The uniforms were designed by Hugo boss after all :D I love the camo pattern, and think it looks great, I will finish a couple of tanks in the Berliner scheme, enough for a 1750pt AC. I'll have to come up with something else for the Kreig, i'm thinking grey or ambush pattern.
I'll work on a tut when i finish the first guy.
It's completely intentional :D
So the helmet stays blackish? cool, makes it look that much more sinister, even though its only a Imp.Guard :rolleyes:
FF-in brilliant! Those will be some original DoK.
Keep it up Sir Sheep!
I'll work on a tut when i finish the first guy.
That would be most awesome as i will hopefully start painting my stormtroopers over the next few weeks and im just in love with that camo!
Rhaivaen
28-10-2008, 11:53
I would personally use this camo scheme only for some of the units like the elites (Grenadiers and Engineers), and keep the grey for the bog-standard guards.
And for those interested:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=143790
Aliright, the first ones finished :D
A couple of quick pics before i go to bed, i'll answer questions etc tmrw when i'm more awake.
Heres a couple of pics from differnt angles.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKfinished001.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKfinished002.jpg
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
Sheep
Simply stunning.
Strange how orange-ish camo can look so sinister....
Love it, we demand more! ;)
Rhaivaen
28-10-2008, 14:55
No doubt i like the camo,
but.
I have showed the picture to a friend of mine and he said the lightning S is distasteful.... not saying you should not have it, but watch it, people can become offended by it, as it "suggests", and for a lot of people that's enough
Solun Decius
28-10-2008, 15:30
Very nice DKoK. The camo is nice and the highlights on the black cloth.
I understand where Rhaivaen is going but I'm always disappointed when rather basic icons and logos are ruined or even made downright offensive by one particular use.
Take the swastika: Beautiful icon, ruined for eternity! I've always wanted to figure out a way to use these icons without it being offensive!
The S on the helmet of a Krieg Corp still seems to be fairly to-the-point. :) Looks cool though! :D
Light of the Emperor
28-10-2008, 15:35
Great camo scheme. I remember SC had an oak leaf pattern too. Good use of the other colors as well to keep emphasis on the coat. The white "lighting bolt" on the helmet fits quite well...don't see any issues with it.
Dictator
28-10-2008, 18:34
Wow sheep amazing with the Camo scheme. Luckily, the Bundeswehr still uses such camo, so it is not all "Nazi's". I really need to see a tut for that, because I am curious how you highlighted it even though you were doing a camo scheme. Very interesting to see!
Rhaivaen
28-10-2008, 19:30
Wow sheep amazing with the Camo scheme. Luckily, the Bundeswehr still uses such camo, so it is not all "Nazi's". I really need to see a tut for that, because I am curious how you highlighted it even though you were doing a camo scheme. Very interesting to see!
"Flecktarn was only widely introduced in 1990", long after i had done my army service within the Netherlands army, i have never seen them use it even when on field exercise, and interesting note:
My country rejected it, amongst other reasons that it was vaguely reminiscent of waffen SS camo. So even today, yes, the camo is still seen as SS reminiscent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flecktarn
Looks great mate and turned out very quickly. I really like the mud weathering, how did you achieve that effect?
My one thought would be that maybe the inside of the coat should have a proper lining? Brown or black tend to be the most popular. Would make life a bit easier for you - less camo to paint!
Cheers,
Dante
The test mini looks awesome mate. I hope you actually get this army finished this time, not like the snow themed one:)
Thanks all. Glad you like him.
No doubt i like the camo,
but.
I have showed the picture to a friend of mine and he said the lightning S is distasteful.... not saying you should not have it, but watch it, people can become offended by it, as it "suggests", and for a lot of people that's enough
I can see where he's coming from, but the runic S isn't in itself "evil", it's not like I put 2 of them on it.
I was considering changing it too an =][= symbol, they do have the same mission and techniques afterall!
Great camo scheme. I remember SC had an oak leaf pattern too. Good use of the other colors as well to keep emphasis on the coat. The white "lighting bolt" on the helmet fits quite well...don't see any issues with it.
SC did his after mine :D Thanks mate.
Wow sheep amazing with the Camo scheme. Luckily, the Bundeswehr still uses such camo, so it is not all "Nazi's". I really need to see a tut for that, because I am curious how you highlighted it even though you were doing a camo scheme. Very interesting to see!
Its really easy actually, just a couple of light drybrushes of Bleached bone.
Looks great mate and turned out very quickly. I really like the mud weathering, how did you achieve that effect?
My one thought would be that maybe the inside of the coat should have a proper lining? Brown or black tend to be the most popular. Would make life a bit easier for you - less camo to paint!
Cheers,
Dante
Which mud weathering? I had considered it mate, but i prefer the all camo look.
The test mini looks awesome mate. I hope you actually get this army finished this time, not like the snow themed one:)
Lol, nice one mate, let me try and finish a squad first though.
Cheers
Sheep
That Runic S was actually used by GW themselves on the first generation Stormtroopers (but i guess most people knew that).
Keep up the awesome work!
Almindale
29-10-2008, 07:44
PHWOAR That's beautiful sheep, looking forward to many models painted this way :D
I like the way you painted the model but i also think that you should leave the "S" away. It is the Sigrune and was the symbol of the "Jungvolk" as a part of the Hitlerjugend. It is forbidden in Germany. In combination with the Flecktarn for me its a problem and i would never play against such an army!
On the matter of the Sigrune, I think its probably easier just to avoid it, clearly some people get offended by it while others dont. Why not make it a small lightning bolt instead?
As for the mud effect, I mean the subtle, khemri brown type smatterings on the coat (on one shoulder etc), it looks very realistic.
Cheers,
Dante
That Runic S was actually used by GW themselves on the first generation Stormtroopers (but i guess most people knew that).
Keep up the awesome work!
I remember that now! But its probably easier to avoid it or turn it into a bolt, like Dante suggests.
I like the way you painted the model but i also think that you should leave the "S" away. It is the Sigrune and was the symbol of the "Jungvolk" as a part of the Hitlerjugend. It is forbidden in Germany. In combination with the Flecktarn for me its a problem and i would never play against such an army!
Sorry to hear that, i understand the reasoning behind the laws, and as an outsider, ie not a european, I am far removed from any historical sensitivity due to proximity.
It snot a big thing for me, its just a cool symbol, but i think the consensus is to change it.
On the matter of the Sigrune, I think its probably easier just to avoid it, clearly some people get offended by it while others dont. Why not make it a small lightning bolt instead?
As for the mud effect, I mean the subtle, khemri brown type smatterings on the coat (on one shoulder etc), it looks very realistic.
Cheers,
Dante
The base of the camoflage is Khemri brown, i still don't really know which bit you are talking about, so i hope the tut i do will help.
Cheers
Sheep
Camo looks absolutely awesome, as does the whole model. Personally I think the white lightning bolt is a bit much - not that I find it offensive, just it seems to take the model slightly out of the 40k universe and into more of a historical realm, but I understand that this was probably your intention anyway.
Can't wait to see more models in the scheme - amazing work as per usual
Ah, I thought it was mud weathering because of the first WIP pic where it was splashed on the helmet, didn't realise it was the camo pattern, looks like it would look good as mud weathering too though!
I'm currently ordering some MIG weathering pigments to try using on figures as a realistic way of doing dust, mud etc. Hopefully I'll get a few test pics up once they arrive!
Cheers,
Dante
Colonel Jacka
29-10-2008, 13:19
I like the way you painted the model but i also think that you should leave the "S" away. It is the Sigrune and was the symbol of the "Jungvolk" as a part of the Hitlerjugend. It is forbidden in Germany. In combination with the Flecktarn for me its a problem and i would never play against such an army!
Sorry you feel that way, but the whole DKOK is based on the historical German Armies of the First and Second World War. I would suggest that my mate Sheep intent is to do his Army with this in mind. It is good that we live in Australia and will not have to play you. The whole imagery of this FW army is what it is! Either you enjoy Sheep's work or you don't. Sheep crack on mate and do not be concerned as your work is not offensive as it is just an army for gaming nothing more. :eyebrows:
VanSan you owe my mate Sheep an apology! Don't lay your issues on a guy whose intent is nothing more then to paint a great 40K Army! And is doing so!
Rhaivaen
29-10-2008, 14:00
@ Colonel Jacka:
VanSan wasn't making a point about Sheeps painting, he was merely stating that he was offended by the S, and would not play against "someone" who has his models painted up like that, regarding the S and that camo scheme as a combined effect.
@anybody else:
I have explained that in we in western europe still find any resemblance to AH and the SS often insulting, and that is the reason why we dislike the S, not the paint scheme itself so much.. even though my country did. (Netherlands army, ps, i resent the word Dutch (english slang word) and therefore don't use it)
And in my recollection, it was Goff stormboys that used that S at first in GW articles and paint schemes, but they used a grey, black and white camo scheme?...
Honestly, the idea of the 'S' rune upsets me a little. I'd have reservations playing that army because of that reason. Still, the painting is excellent, and I love the camo. It probably doesn't help that I have Jewish heritage.
Sheep, try going with Imperial German markings, should help out a bit.
Colonel Jacka
29-10-2008, 18:35
Guys,
You have missed the point. It's a game not a political statement.:D I be more upset playing an unpainted Army! :cries:
Rhaivaen
29-10-2008, 18:52
Guys,
You have missed the point. It's a game not a political statement.:D I be more upset playing an unpainted Army! :cries:
Then you are missing the actual real life point, we know Warhammer40K is just a game, but it does not mean we can be insensitive to history and peoples feeling, "just because its only a game"? not really..
Colonel Jacka
29-10-2008, 21:06
Rhaivaen,
I know a far bit about real life and history. I get what you guys are saying to Sheep, but do you really think he painted his figures with any real malice or an intent to insult? I don't want to join the crowd who riot over a cartoon in a European paper. I don't think you guys do either. How about we leave it at that.:D I do not want to start a flame war, I prefer to talk about Sheep's great skills at painting.
@ Colonel Jacka: I support your motion.:)
Sheep really is a great painter and i would never be able to paint such a camo so neat and convincingly realistic, whatever the origin of it. Even by BOSS! ;)
Rhaivaen,
I know a far bit about real life and history. I get what you guys are saying to Sheep, but do you really think he painted his figures with any real malice or an intent to insult? I don't want to join the crowd who riot over a cartoon in a European paper.
Thats fine, but nobody is rioting here. A few of us are simply politely pointing out that the S / Lightning bolt is still a politically charged symbol and some of us find it slightly unnerving to see models resembling german infantry painted in this fashion. If you have a problem with people responding to the models in this fashion then perhaps it would be advisable to consider not adding the lightning bolt in future. The painting and the camo are stunning, I just feel the inclusion of the S is slightly unfortunate. The 40k universe is wonderfully rich and detailed, but theres nothing wrong with references to the real world. What does seem unfortunate however, is references to Nazi Germany and the SS
Great_Destroyer
30-10-2008, 04:28
His models, he can paint any thing he wants on them.
Any whom, good to see starting the guard up again. Love the nids to by the way.
AtmanAbecedarian
30-10-2008, 05:09
Ah, damn fine work. I have boundless respect for anyone with the patience to make Guard look this wonderful.
dr.oetk3r
30-10-2008, 06:03
They should make a sticky on "questionably" themed armies, the topic comes up again and again and again....
Anyhow, fantastic painting. The camouflage is very nice and detailed.
I really like how Sheep has handled the thread. These debates normally turn into monkey poo fights very quickly, but the situation was handled with grace and respect. My personal opinion on the matter is that, due to right of personal freedom and expression, you can paint your army however you feel. However, It must be understood that due to the historical connotation of the said material, people may find it distasteful or offensive, which is understandable. Of course, the producer has his own opinions and is subject to them, but it would be pretty insulting to not admit that ones work may cause insult, because in this case, it probably does to some people.
However, it is never as simple as that. I think that Sheep clearly isn't a raving white supremacist :P, he's just painting an army based on a historical uniform which, when one ignores the history behind it, looks pretty cool! So, it terms of art and expression, Sheep has every right to paint his little dudes however he feels like painting them. But in terms of tastefulness, it must be understood (and most definitely not dismissed) that the armies theme may have a detrimental effect on some people. But you proably already knew that, I just wanted to summarize my thoughts on the subject :P
So where does this leave us? Well you're left with a few options: you can submit to the 'common' perception of what is considered culturally acceptable, leaving you with very little artistic freedom (something is offensive to someone). Your other option is to simply not care about how your army is perceived by other people, however this may make other people think you are an "*******", fair enough, but people can think what they want of each other. Lastly, (this is my personal opinion), it is best to take a mixed approach. For instance, you wish to use you freedom of expression, but you do not want to offend anyone. In this case, this would probably be best achieved by changing the runic S to a lightning-bolt. It's not exactly the same, but it still carries the theme. It a sort of compromise which might appeal to all parties.
However, I think Nazis are evil, so If you were to paint a SS themed Krieg army, I wouldn't approve, but I would accept your right to do it out of artistic freedom. Basically, I think the point I am trying to make is, as long as you're not a flaming racist, it's "acceptable" to theme an army based on the principles of artistic freedom.
Whew. :)
Alright, well thankyou all for your comments, good and bad.
I'm just going to ignore the fact that this argument has gone on, there will be no sigrune on the helmets any more though, i'll change it to a lightning bolt, purely to avoid any of these arguments at a tournament, however i think there needs to be something there, so i'm going for the bolt.
I'm working on the next four, and doing a tut for all those that want one.
Cheers
Sheep
Good call Sheep, the mature and polite way to go to avoid the thread being zerged and flamed (i myself liked the S and would have probably been alot more immature about it).
Great to hear your busy, cant wait for that Tutorial!
Rhaivaen
30-10-2008, 11:57
At least Sheep has shown some sort of understanding, and i thank him for it, and yes please, TUT away :rolleyes: :D
The Wildchild
30-10-2008, 12:06
Fantastic model, really makes a difference from all the drab and dreary DKOK we usually see! The camo's awesome!
Asi the Red
30-10-2008, 12:37
I really like that camo scheme Sheep, and don't particularly care one way or another about the S/Lightning bolt decision.
However, I will point out that IIRC the Warseer servers are Germany based and I have seen material forcibly pulled from logs in the past for being Nazi themed/bearing questionable iconography (as material posted to the forum must abide by German law). Just sayin'.
Colonel Jacka
30-10-2008, 13:11
dr.oetk3r,
Well said mate! :D
Sheep,
Over to you! Sorry for the comments! ;)
Of course Sheep, now you have to do a few tanks up in '44-45 Ambush patterns to go along with the camo on the coats...
And tutorial that, as well.
ReaperOfSouls
30-10-2008, 15:44
Of course Sheep, now you have to do a few tanks up in '44-45 Ambush patterns to go along with the camo on the coats...
And tutorial that, as well.
Had to go look up ambush camo and I think it looks great. And just by a coincidence I stumbled across a little guide on how to make it :)
http://www.dracostandard.co.uk/paintingAmbush.asp
I tend to use a Buff/Sand for my dots. There's also another version which is a bit less "stripey" and a bit more "blob" of colour.
It's a lovely pattern though and would look smashing with those greatcoats, don'tcha think?
Thanks for that site reaper, looks really good, i'm considering using that pattern, only i'll change the colours slightly, looks to "happy" for the look i'm going for with this army.
Fell asleep at the painting table last night, and didn't get much done, i'm trying to work out the best way to do a tut with the fewest pics due to the pic limit.
Wish me luck :D ;)
Cheers
Sheep
Thanks guys, doing some work tonite for the tut, and mucked around with one of the old pics.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKfinished003.jpg
I think it looks cool :)
Also changed the "bolt" so it looks more like a bolt.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKbolt004.jpg
Thickened the top, and thined the bottom.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
Sheep
Rhaivaen
31-10-2008, 12:37
Heh, i see you found that interesting Leman Russ variant aswell... :rolleyes:
The Wildchild
31-10-2008, 12:54
Looks good, but I'd rotate it 45 degrees anticlockwise to definitly put to bed any arguements about the origins of the symbol
Sorry what variant?
First part of the tut.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKtut001.jpg
Step #1: Chaos black spray
Step #2: Khemri brown base coat
Step #3: Random patches of Solar macharius orange
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKtut003.jpg
Step #4: 60/40 mix of chaos black/scorched brown
Step #5: Dots of the above on the orange and khemri
Step #6: Dots of khemri brown and orange on the other bits.NB. the last guy in this pic is actually finished
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/DKoKtut2.jpg
Step #4: Very light drybrush of bleached bone.
Step #5: Wash with Devlan mud
Step #6: Another drybrush of bleached bone
Done!
Cheers
Sheep
Thanks for the tut sofar, question though; any chance of getting close-ups of step 5 and 6?
I can't make out how it looks on the current pics...
aaaah what happend to the panzerfausts? love the camoscheme sheep :)....how about adding some autumn foliage to the bases?
Thanks for the tut sofar, question though; any chance of getting close-ups of step 5 and 6?
I can't make out how it looks on the current pics...
Sure thing mate, the ones i have done atm are beyond that point, so i'll do it for the next ones.
aaaah what happend to the panzerfausts? love the camoscheme sheep :)....how about adding some autumn foliage to the bases?
What do you mean what happened? I never had any, i have a panzerknacker though. Way ahead of you witht the foliage :D
Cheers
Sheep
What do you mean what happened? I never had any, i have a panzerknacker though. Way ahead of you witht the foliage :D
sometimes it gets so confusing with all the krieg logs around....I guess it was Still learning with the panzerfausts.....
so if we agree on the foliage.....how about some half tracks, like Bangaroos :angel:
Bungaroos half tracks are nice, but they are based on 1/35th scale vehicles, i'm going to do mine as chimera conversions.
Watch this space.
Cheers
Sheep
Still learning
01-11-2008, 02:26
Thanks for the tut Sheep... I just might put it to use on a few things.
Alright, well thankyou all for your comments, good and bad.
I'm just going to ignore the fact that this argument has gone on, there will be no sigrune on the helmets any more though, i'll change it to a lightning bolt, purely to avoid any of these arguments at a tournament, however i think there needs to be something there, so i'm going for the bolt.
I'm working on the next four, and doing a tut for all those that want one.
Cheers
Sheep
Perfectly understandable. Runic runes (wuh?) are cool though. :( Maybe a runic 'F' is called for? :angel:
+EDIT+
And by the way, this makes me want to play Company of Heroes... ;)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/base002.jpg
Done some work on the base.
Cheers
Sheep
How'd you do the leaves, Lamb-gone-mutton?
holmcross
01-11-2008, 09:35
Those are some of the coolest models I've ever seen. This makes me want to put together a guard army, if I could make it look half as cool as that....
maybe, maybe.
Just WOW! Your skills are amazing. Great job and cant wait to see more IG goodness.
Mulrak
Looks great mate, the leaves on the base are the perfect touch to finish things off.
Looking forward to more!
Cheers,
Dante
Monsterzonk
01-11-2008, 13:53
Lovely work, sheep! Great base that really fits the camo. And a cool rust effect. Looking forward to more...
Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:
Bloody good work. The base for the death korp is fantastic.
yay for foliage....now lets see you cracking out a whole army :)
Rhaivaen
01-11-2008, 15:55
Bungaroos half tracks are nice, but they are based on 1/35th scale vehicles, i'm going to do mine as chimera conversions
And not only you, hehe, i like the idea of Sdkfz 251 being a mech.inf vehicle for Krieg..
And on another note, how did u add volume to the base fillings? just mix the sand/ stones and pile it up?
I could, and probably am wrong, but it looks like a little blob of GS put onto the base and spread to the edges, lightly textured, and then the sand and gravel put into it.
Rhaivaen
01-11-2008, 16:52
I could, and probably am wrong, but it looks like a little blob of GS put onto the base and spread to the edges, lightly textured, and then the sand and gravel put into it.
Sounds logical, though i have no experience with GS, and will not try that for a while, but thnx, i just bought Ballast chippings (and the extra fine version of it) of a brand called JAVIS "countryside" scenics...
Its the first time i am actualy attempting to do the base as well as the mini :rolleyes:
Rhaivaen
01-11-2008, 17:12
Bungaroos half tracks are nice, but they are based on 1/35th scale vehicles
Weren't they 1/48? i am assuming i am the only one advocating the use of 1/35 :D:rolleyes::p
How'd you do the leaves, Lamb-gone-mutton?
They're a railway scenics product, can't remember the name, i bought them in a hobby clearence sale, i think they are birch seeds but don't quote me on it.
And not only you, hehe, i like the idea of Sdkfz 251 being a mech.inf vehicle for Krieg..
And on another note, how did u add volume to the base fillings? just mix the sand/ stones and pile it up?
Weren't they 1/48? i am assuming i am the only one advocating the use of 1/35
Me too, i hope they'll look the part. The bases were built up like faolan said, but first i put a 1mm piece of plastic-card under each of the models feet.
Ok, so onto the pics.
Firstly i'm going to edit the tut post to include the last pic of the camo.
And heres the pics of the finished members so far. up to 6 woo!
Washed out pic of the sarge:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad003.jpg
Grenider:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad004.jpg
Flamer:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad006.jpg
Lasgun:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad008.jpg
TBC
Panzerknacker ;)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad010.jpg
And all together.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad002.jpg
Hope you like them.
Cheers
Sheep
Arhalien
03-11-2008, 00:53
Panzerknacker; brilliant :p
And how could we not like them Sheep; they're Krieg painted by you! I can think of few things better ;)
But seriously, they are excellent; the camouflage, the basing, the discolouration on the flamer. The one thing I think seems a bit lacking is weathering; are you planning to add any?
Panzerknacker; brilliant :p
And how could we not like them Sheep; they're Krieg painted by you! I can think of few things better ;)
But seriously, they are excellent; the camouflage, the basing, the discolouration on the flamer. The one thing I think seems a bit lacking is weathering; are you planning to add any?
Aw shucks *blushes* :D
I am missing the weathering too. I want to do some, but can't think of an appropriate way of doing it, I want to get my hands on some mig pigments.
But atm i'm just happy to be getting some of them painted :D
Cheers
Sheep
Arhalien
03-11-2008, 01:00
I look forward to seeing the results when you get around to it. I'm also happy to see something being painted too; how long will you stick to this scheme? :p
looking very good....but still think a panzerfaust would look better :p
this army will look so good when completed sheep....looing forward...
Light of the Emperor
03-11-2008, 01:00
Great set of models right there. From color selection to basing, everything is well executed. Dare I say these are among the best guard I have seen. Good job Sheep!
The leaves are indeed Birch seeds. Antenociti (do a web search) sells bags of them.
Maybe a lightened mud wash, and a browish-gray drybrush on the helm?
jarlragnar
03-11-2008, 02:55
Just read this whole thread tonight. I must say, sheep, you have a godzilla sized amount of dedication to this hobby. It's been one helluva read and it's heartwarming to see the amount of support you guys have given one another. Keep up the beautiful work, sir. I'm more of a Fantasy player myself, but this officially become my favorite corner of Warseer.
They really do look brilliant Sheep - best Krieg i've ever seen. Glad that a compromise was reached on the insignia - simply because whilst I don't doubt that there is no issue on your behalf it would have become a pain for you to have to justify the army every time you showed it off at a tournament.
I look forward to seeing the results when you get around to it. I'm also happy to see something being painted too; how long will you stick to this scheme?
Lol well i have painted the 6 models that seems to be my cap for guard armies haha
looking very good....but still think a panzerfaust would look better :p
this army will look so good when completed sheep....looing forward...
I'm considering using 'fausts as melts guns in the Greniders squads, short range high pen, hows that sound?
Great set of models right there. From color selection to basing, everything is well executed. Dare I say these are among the best guard I have seen. Good job Sheep!
The leaves are indeed Birch seeds. Antenociti (do a web search) sells bags of them.
High praise indeed, thankyou sir, cheers for backing up my birch seed guess too.
Maybe a lightened mud wash, and a browish-gray drybrush on the helm?
I'd be more inclined to use a brown wash on the black parts, and a drybrush on the cloth.
Just read this whole thread tonight. I must say, sheep, you have a godzilla sized amount of dedication to this hobby. It's been one helluva read and it's heartwarming to see the amount of support you guys have given one another. Keep up the beautiful work, sir. I'm more of a Fantasy player myself, but this officially become my favorite corner of Warseer.
Good effort mate, you're dedication is appreciated, as is your sentiment, glad you had a good time :D
They really do look brilliant Sheep - best Krieg i've ever seen. Glad that a compromise was reached on the insignia - simply because whilst I don't doubt that there is no issue on your behalf it would have become a pain for you to have to justify the army every time you showed it off at a tournament.
Thats the basis for the change mate, I think i might **** some people off when i paint the banner though . . .
Work progresses, the next four have the coats and bases painted. I've also assembled and based the platoon command squad, a minor conversion of the Lt, he now has a plasma pistol.
Cheers
Sheep
Reason I suggested the drier brown-grey uptop Sheep is thats where you're most likely to encounter dried mud/dirt, and get the most dust, whereas you'll get wet stuff for longer on the cloth.
Fair enough mate, good reasoning.
Cheers
Sheep
gonzosbignose
05-11-2008, 12:54
Hey Sheep
Well its been a while since i last dropped you a line on here, and i have to say wow. Obviously you are on the same silly planet i come from, cos we both seem to have a fasciantion for camoflage, and i dont know if your as perplexed by it as i am yet... but it gets to you after you done alot of it.
The DKOK look fab. The colours on the coats are spot on, and with the exceptionally crafted bases you have done, you have created some really awe inspiring models, that im sure many people look up to and admire.
On here there are people that set benchmarks... and you are one of them
Regards
My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer
You'll make me blush Dan lol, thankyou.
The next 4 guys are almost done. I'll finish them tonite and put pics up.
Cheers
Sheep
I reckon if you plan on adding some weathering then you cant go far wrong with some pigments. Would certainly keep with the realistic look you have going with these chaps already. I'd recommend picking up the dvd guide before using them though, really helps give an insight into their uses!
Looking forward to more as always.
Cheers,
Dante
tempestice
06-11-2008, 13:41
I was just wondering if you plan on stripping the paint of the tanks and other vehicles? I love them but a similar dark color would be perfect IMO
Just love this and I want an oakleaf division in my deathkorps!
Well guys, better late then never :D
Heres the last four guys done:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad011.jpg
And a completed squad pic:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad013.jpg
What do you all think about the idea of doing some of them with grey great coats and camo pants?
I was just wondering if you plan on stripping the paint of the tanks and other vehicles? I love them but a similar dark color would be perfect IMO
Just love this and I want an oakleaf division in my deathkorps!
I'm planning on doing the tanks/halftracks in an late war german ambush pattern, maybe slightly changed to darken it up.
Try doing it on your greniders, the different scheme adds to the "elite" effect.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
Sheep
Solun Decius
08-11-2008, 07:24
Nice, you do those FW models justice dude. It's all very life-like and straight out of the trenches :D
Grey coat and camo pants doesn't seem very practical. Seems more "street fashion" than "military". It might look cool though to have some without camo coats, just black or grey coats, but then maybe without camo alltogether. That said, it's probably worth trying, to see how it looks.
Most armies (and in the 40k universe this would be represented by an army group or a specific campaign) have been equipped at the same time and as such have similar equipment, and even new units added to this army is usually issued the same standard as the ongoing campaign. Even the Imperial Guard, who normally assign remnants of any regiment/campaign to join a new regiment/campaign, could be assumed to issue these troopers with the "standard equipment" of the ongoing mission.
However, that was my military side speaking. On the gaming table where we shuffle miniatures around, having some diversity amongst the men can actually make the army look really good! One of the coolest Imperial Guard armies i ever saw had squads from each different "GW-issued regiments" (Valhallans/Mordians/Catachans etc etc), all painted individually but still having some distguinishing colours to tie the entire army together.
So if you are to paint a unit in another colour than your "autumn-camo", i would choose a unit that stands out on the field. Im guessing you are only using DKoK-models, so that would leave choices like Command Squads, Stormtroopers and/or Veterans.
alphachicken
08-11-2008, 10:34
I think I'm in love sheep.
Is it possible for you to show the rocket launcher chap's arm and how you did it? I've never seen a krieg model in close before and was wondering if it was an easy convertion to do. Thanks in advance and once more, great job.
They look excellent! It's a shame people can't grow up a bit on what happened 70 years ago and bullied you into changing the symbol. Let me tell you if those Krieg were 6mm scale you would have no problems with how you paint because historical wargamers are tonnes more relaxed about this and realise that these are just models.
Colonel Jacka
08-11-2008, 12:14
Let me tell you if those Krieg were 6mm scale you would have no problems with how you paint because historical wargamers are tonnes more relaxed about this and realise that these are just models.
Scolar,
Ain't that the truth! :eyebrows: ;)
Sheep I'd leave only the coats or smocks camo that's how they did it. Good work mate. I just primed the Squats for the Thudd Gun Bty pictures in the morning. :D
Fantastic stuff, these guys make an amazingly realistic looking unit, the bases and everything work perfectly together.
The camo came out great too, really makes this a stand out unit.
More please!
As for the camo trousers debate, I think black coats would work, grey might but black would look better.
Cheers,
Dante
You could get away with some mix and match of the coats/smocks, but it's likely that the pants at least would be highly standardised.
On the other hand, do up a test sample and decide if YOU like it. The rest of us can shove our monitors up our ring-hole if we don't like it, but you do.
Rhaivaen
08-11-2008, 17:34
They look excellent! It's a shame people can't grow up a bit on what happened 70 years ago and bullied you into changing the symbol. Let me tell you if those Krieg were 6mm scale you would have no problems with how you paint because historical wargamers are tonnes more relaxed about this and realise that these are just models.
I think some of you are way to nonchalant about this subject.. i do agree that his painting is his own to do... and he was also willing to drop the S and shift it into a lightning, which shows he is open minded, and not to rigid in his thinking, unlike you guys who seem to defend him, which seems awkward to me:rolleyes:
Anyway, if you guys would please drop nagging about painting ethics, which we did some posts ago, then this thread might be so much more fun imo :p
amazing squad, I think its probably my favourite squad Krieg ever
Dictator
08-11-2008, 20:03
Those are some pretty dead 'ard looking krieg. Damn. I love that scheme. So bad ass
Rhaiven, those of us who defend him don't necessarily defend his choice, but his right to make said choice. Count me as one of those. I'm not opposed to the runic S in the least, but it's the fundamental right which strikes me as important and why I stand up for the man.
Strike that, why I stand with him.
There's nothing cavalier about my attitude to it, and really, I'd ask you pull the stick out of yer posterior.
A truly liberal society and group values creativity and expression for the sake of it, and doesn't seek to restrict it based upon "well it might offend a handful of people"; that's fake liberalism and expression.
Honestly, the thread was back to fun and good discussion again till you returned nagging over a passing comment.
Christ on a cross with lead weights on his testicles, you make me want to vomit.
Sheep, MORE BLOODY PICTURES!
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Also, Sheep, weren't those smocks reversible? What was on the reverse of that pattern, or what do you want to be on the reverse of yours? Maybe a very simple two-tone grey splinter pattern that's as fast to paint (almost) as one tone but serves to break up the shape a bit.
Colonel Jacka
09-11-2008, 10:55
Agreed Mate! Rhaivaen maybe you have become totalitarian by the fact you ban symbols. Not a good thing. Don't allow the symbol to gain political status or they will win. Hmm, that don't happen here in Oz! :eyebrows:
Enough of this it's Sheep's models that matter! :D
I think some of you are way to nonchalant about this subject..
Every day of my life I live not to be nonchalant about subject's like this. In fact my **** has been more then once in the way of nonchalance's my friend! :eyebrows: :wtf:
indeed, and we want more of the Sheepy goodness!
Rhaivaen
09-11-2008, 17:50
Sheep, firstly, i never went flaming on you because u used a runic S, i merely cautioned you in the use and the combined effects of your artistic abilities, and i NEVER claimed you weren't allowed to do it at all..
My apologies to you for any derailing this thread will have because of the discussion surrounding your artistic abilities.
Rhaiven, those of us who defend him don't necessarily defend his choice, but his right to make said choice. Count me as one of those. I'm not opposed to the runic S in the least, but it's the fundamental right which strikes me as important and why I stand up for the man.
Fundamental rights only go so far when it comes to evil symbolisms being used in a frivolous way.
It's nothing cavalier about my attitude to it, and really, I'd ask you pull the stick out of yer posterior.
I dislike this comment. Keep this attitude to yourself please, i was not insulting you personally.
A truly liberal society and group values creativity and expression for the sake of it, and doesn't seek to restrict it based upon "well it might offend a handful of people"; that's fake liberalism and expression.
I call this having no respect for history and people who have suffered under those runic S'es.
Honestly, the thread was back to fun and good discussion again till you returned nagging over a passing comment.
That "passing comment" was a sniding remark at someone's opinion, and i respect Sheep more then i do you, i think your reply here shows your immaturity and childish views of the world.
Christ on a cross with lead weights on his testicles, you make me want to vomit.
This is just more the perfect example of my previous comment. I never insulted you,. don't insult me.
dr.oetk3r
09-11-2008, 19:30
I think some of you are way to nonchalant about this subject.. i do agree that his painting is his own to do... and he was also willing to drop the S and shift it into a lightning, which shows he is open minded, and not to rigid in his thinking, unlike you guys who seem to defend him, which seems awkward to me:rolleyes:
Anyway, if you guys would please drop nagging about painting ethics, which we did some posts ago, then this thread might be so much more fun imo :p
I'm with you 100% on this one. You are respectful and make a good point.
But, Christ, everyone, can we just drop it? Sheep isn't a racist and it's the internet, wether we like it or not.
Monsterzonk
09-11-2008, 20:24
Hey there, sheep!
The entire squad looks really ace! It all fits really nicely. I especially like the yellow marking on the missile. I dunno why, but that's just cool.
Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:
Look guys just move on from the fact that thay are "space nazis", it is definatley a thing that divides all of the world, Australian's, such as myself Faolan and Col Jacka, seem to have a completly different take on the whole thing from European's.
We won't agree, so just please don't talk about it, I don't want this log to degenerate into a flame war.
On a more positive note, I have the command squad at about 75% so I should have pics of them up in the next couple of days.
Thanks for the comments.
Cheers
Sheep
Eh, don't lump me into your damned category Sheep, I'm American. See? Passport says so.
75% though? Good to hear.
Didn't know there was a Tasmania in the US, the things you learn ;)
Explains why you don't like vegimite though :P
Cheers
Sheep
tcraigen
10-11-2008, 05:21
I think they look amazing and have no problems with what ever symbols are on them. I like the use of orange I have rarely seen camo with oranges that works but these look really good and feel very real. At that usually gets my vote, cause if it looks like it could be real than the point of painting and modelling has been achieved. Otherwise why not just play RPG where its all in our heads.
Tommygun
10-11-2008, 05:22
Didn't know there was a Tasmania in the US, the things you learn ;)
Explains why you don't like vegimite though :P
Cheers
Sheep
No one in the US likes Vegemite, that why we sent it all to Australia in WII to get it out of the country.
How are your tanks coming along?
-Tom.
Colonel Jacka
10-11-2008, 06:38
Didn't know there was a Tasmania in the US, the things you learn ;) Explains why you don't like vegimite though :P
Cheers
Sheep
Hehehehehe! Me neither and I lived there. :eyebrows: Tasmania that is. Faolan's an illegal allien hold up in one of the best little cities in the world. :D
Pfft Jacka, some day you come to United States, I show you my hood.
Captain Brown
10-11-2008, 18:31
Well guys, better late then never :D
Heres the last four guys done:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad011.jpg
And a completed squad pic:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Finishedsquad013.jpg
What do you all think about the idea of doing some of them with grey great coats and camo pants?
Really, really nice. I had to quote the images so they could appear on this page of the log.
As for camo pants and grey coats, I think the area for the pants is to small to make the camo scheme work.
CB
What an amazing camo pattern and the execution is as good as always!
Go ahead!
Greetz,
2XS
P.S.: I am German and I have no problem with any symbols at all. The mind behind is the problem, not the symbol itself!
Man, these guys look bloomin' great, Sheep, your work on the bases really emphasises how the look of a miniature can be magnified!
I love the camo, and please go for the black trousers if it makes your life easier and you can churn out more nice work, heh heh.
Now, about that command squad...
CrabHermit
10-11-2008, 21:29
Those Krieger realy look ace, and the color scheme is realy original and work well. Can't wait to see some. Tanks please! ^^
I think fecktarn is one of best-looking camo-patterns ever and I have been thinking of using British DPM, the Swedish M90 or flecktarn on guardsmen for a long time but I never found an easy way to paint them, so I think I’m going to steal the black armour and flecktarn uniform for my future Elysian paratrooper project. As for changing the paint scheme I don't think it would have the same effect, although you could go for the classic German military look by having the troopers all grey and use the camo scheme on storm troopers.
Just a thought…
Keep it up mate!
Rhaivaen
10-11-2008, 22:23
Wondering out loud:
Would that infantry camo fit on a tank?, or would that be insane? :D
i dont really like that tank-camo which is used contemporary with the infantry one...
Mate, they are easily the best Krieg miniatures I've ever seen. Maybe save the grey jackets and camo pants for your stormtroopers or veterans?
Girathon
11-11-2008, 04:34
Absolutely love the DKoK Sheep. I have to go along with the crowd and say its my favorite Krieg scheme to date. Can't wait to the see the command squad and whatever else you have up and coming. Keep it up!
Cheers,
G
Jeez thanks guys :D
Really, really nice. I had to quote the images so they could appear on this page of the log.
As for camo pants and grey coats, I think the area for the pants is to small to make the camo scheme work.
CB
Thankyou sir, high praise indeed from someone of your guard painting pedigree, thanks for quoting the images too.
I think fecktarn is one of best-looking camo-patterns ever and I have been thinking of using British DPM, the Swedish M90 or flecktarn on guardsmen for a long time but I never found an easy way to paint them, so I think I’m going to steal the black armour and flecktarn uniform for my future Elysian paratrooper project. As for changing the paint scheme I don't think it would have the same effect, although you could go for the classic German military look by having the troopers all grey and use the camo scheme on storm troopers.
Just a thought…
Keep it up mate!
Flecktern is a derivative of the oakleaf/pea camo from WW2 used by the SS, and yes i agree too, one of the better camos out there, much better then that hideous and ineffective ACU anyway.
Wondering out loud:
Would that infantry camo fit on a tank?, or would that be insane? :D
i dont really like that tank-camo which is used contemporary with the infantry one...
It might, but i would go insane, I've done it once on a sentinel, pics much earlier in the log, but i had to biggerize the dots to make it paintable.
Mate, they are easily the best Krieg miniatures I've ever seen. Maybe save the grey jackets and camo pants for your stormtroopers or veterans?
The storm troops/grenadiers have more armour and skull faces ont heir helms, which i think will be enough to distiguish them from regular line infantry.
Thanks again all for looking and commenting, i'm still working on the command squad, the banner is like 2 troopers! But i think it looks great, and i'll have pics soon as possible.
Cheers
Sheep
Krieg Marshall
11-11-2008, 21:14
I'm curious to see what you're planninig for your eventual grenadiers... Anyway I'm sure they'll be awesome as always.
Keep up with the good work.
Colonel Jacka
12-11-2008, 13:30
All,
As Sheep's Manager I would like to point of that we are working hard to keep his head from swelling further. :D Therefore would you please keep your complements to a minimum as it affects the flow off effective painting. :eyebrows: :p
Jacka's got a point- the man's brain will forego oxygen to suck up praise, which will unfortunately leave him braindead and unable to paint.
But surely if Sheep goes braindead then he is more inclined to paint Undead? I know he has a soft spot for 'em, c'mon, Sheep old chap! Let's have 'em!!! *Cackles manically*
All,
As Sheep's Manager I would like to point of that we are working hard to keep his head from swelling further. Therefore would you please keep your complements to a minimum as it affects the flow off effective painting.
Self appointed i might point out! ;-)
I come bearing pics! I have had this squad finished for a day, but haven't been able to post because my net was down :-(
Any way on to the pics, Command squad 1st platoon, 10th Panzer grenadiers.
Un-named Lt.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad001.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad005.jpg
Banner bearer.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad006.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad007.jpg
Plasma.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad008.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad009.jpg
Melta.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad011.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad012.jpg
Vox/plasma
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad013.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad014.jpg
All together now
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad016.jpg
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
Sheep
What we think!??????!!!
How can we think after you blow our minds away like that!?
This is just too much! I have started painting my Stormtroopers (almost) the same camouflage as you, but i can never do it justice and seeing this awesomeness makes me feel like my work is just a mockery of your genious!
The one and only thing i could ever point out (and that had to be excruciated from me by a very sadistic Interrogation-Servitor), is using red/orange for your plasma guns. I know youre trying to keep your colour-scheme kinda close-to-earth, but using another bright tone would really make it stand out (as it is now they kinda blend with your camo).
Krieg Marshall
13-11-2008, 14:00
Great as always. You give so much inspiration for my drawings. I've tried a few weeks ago to draw some kind of Krieg light infrantry man using a silmilar camo. But they were wearing another kind of jacket aver the greatcoat and keep the greatcoat in grey...
Anyway, great job.
too be honest sheep....the plasma coils blend a bit too much in the models....now I know making them stand out would beat the whole idea of camo....but then again its a personal taste of my to add much colours and make models look more vibrant....
How about going from red to ice blue? or light green?
Solun Decius
13-11-2008, 14:27
Excellent stuff. The banner bearer in particular is great but the squad as a whole is simply striking!
tcraigen
13-11-2008, 17:58
I really like the vox plasma. the orange plasma guns look good Ive always tried to go with opposite colours for the plasmas from the armour but this looks very good and makes sense. beautiful squad
Awesome stuff as usual. I like the red plasma coils. The lt. is very nifty!
Cheers,
Dante
Shield And Key
13-11-2008, 18:36
so sick! man, i really need to step up my game...
Captain Brown
13-11-2008, 18:38
Really nice, went to give another 5/5 but I can only give a score once on a log.
CB
Rhaivaen
13-11-2008, 19:36
Love the camo scheme, like the orange plasma weapon, but hate the flag, it looks red and does not fit at all with the rest imo, the red and orange just curse each other imo...
Just to get the pic on a new page
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/Commandsquad016.jpg
More individual shot on the previous page.
The plasma coils seem to be dividing everyone, i like it, but i'm lazy and went with waht i thought was easy, I can see the argument for more contrast though. If someone with photoshop skills wants to show me what they would look like different colours, please go ahead :D
The flag is staying the way it is, I really like it, and its one of my favorite parts of the squad.
Cheers
Sheep
Monsterzonk
13-11-2008, 22:37
I love that squad! The flag is cool, it's a nice contrast but not too offset. And I also like the orange plasma coils. Usually I'm a strong advocate of contrasting colours, but your Krieg have a great overall tonal quality, which I'd rather not interrupt.
Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:
Rhaivaen
13-11-2008, 22:41
I love that camo scheme, but red and orange like that do not go together imo :p ... each his own taste, that's why we paint our own models the way we like ehm, not how someone else does :rolleyes:
tempestice
13-11-2008, 23:01
I like that becasue the plasma coild is relatively good match and is perfect with the color choice
I know people say that alot but im seriously considering painting up a guy like this
btw...do you do any highlighting on the pants or overcoats?
allright I took up the challenge with my crappy photoshop skills....the green one just proves the fact how much I suck at photoshop :evilgrin:
now if you watch through squinted eyes it might appear better....
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/Jermolowicz/Random/blue.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/Jermolowicz/Random/green.jpg
gonzosbignose
13-11-2008, 23:52
Would it be wrong of me to say i like the red plasma coils?
Regards
My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer
tcraigen
13-11-2008, 23:55
stay with the orange or if you need to, go blue.
Thanks for that Dio'Ra, I think if i were to change them i'd go for the blue. You deserve a cookie :D
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Stuff/cookie.jpg
Would it be wrong of me to say i like the red plasma coils?
Regards
My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer
Not at all, its all personal choice. I like them too.
I like that becasue the plasma coild is relatively good match and is perfect with the color choice
I know people say that alot but im seriously considering painting up a guy like this
btw...do you do any highlighting on the pants or overcoats?
As i said in the tut, i give them a light dry brush of bleached bone before, and after the wash of devlan mud. The pants are Vallejo german grey, washed with devlan mud, GG, GG and adeptus battle grey mix, and then straight ABG.
Hope that helps mate.
Cheers
Sheep
Dictator
14-11-2008, 01:53
I think they look fine as is. But if you change em (which you should not), go with the blue. BUt other than that, they are just awesome.
Scrap-miester
14-11-2008, 02:14
Where do you get your leaves on the bases?
-Eric
Colonel Marbi Chora
14-11-2008, 05:30
I like the plasma how it is, but I think blue might just be a *tad* better. But I guess it's just personal preferance.
Ace models, as usual Sheep!
Orange plasma and red banner look good. It keeps the scheme very 'tight'. though the plasma could get lost if there's a lot of 'em.
Cheers guys. Glad the consensus is swinging towards the orange coils.
Where do you get your leaves on the bases?
-Eric
I bought them from my local hobby shop, they are birch seeds.
Cheers
Sheep
Birch seeds? I might hunt around for some myself! Looks like a good idea.
I'll say it again, but I think the red coils look great. If you did decide to change them though, I would agree that an almost white blue would be better than green.
Also, dont think I mentioned before but I love all the little squad markings and icons. Details like that really make a well painted model really special in my "obsessional for detail" eyes:chrome:.
Looking forward to more mate, whats next on the cards?
Cheers,
Dante
Thanks mate :) Really glad you like it.
I've just painted squad and company markings on the squad i've already done, i've assembled another squad, and started work on the halftrack.
Cheers
Sheep
shabbadoo
15-11-2008, 13:13
Firt off, everything looks great.
Secondly, I like the red on the plasma gun. When I scrolled down further from the squad pic and saw the kneeling guy with the blue bit on the plasma gun(and hadn't yet read the text there) I laughed out loud, thinking that the red one was of course obviously overheating, while the pic of the blue one was "normal". You could do some of each!!! :D
I like the fist one in the squad though. It's good to be different sometimes, and your version just looks dangerous to me(which of course suits the weapon). You could do the coils like they were glowing metal instead as you have them now, and with a "Get's Hot!" one really glowing brightly. ;)
Thanks mate :-)
I've got some pics of the WIP halftrack for you.
What i started with, an armature made out of lego, i took the top bumps off with an orbital sander.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/WIPhalftrack.jpg
Shortened and lowered chimera tracks, plasticard top plate, deepened the turret.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/WIPhalftrack002.jpg
Detail shot of the removable top plate.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/WIPhalftrack004.jpg
A shot of the WIP wheel/tyre i'm attempting to make, the Largest GW tyre i can find is too small, and i'll be buggered if i'm paying $65 for an ork trukk just for a wheel!
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/WIPhalftrack003.jpg
Any way, any help you can give would be greatly appreciated, i am alittle concerned that it may be a bit big, but i'm modeling it on the MRAP/251 Sdkzf, which will ofcourse mean a biggerized Russ when i get to it/them.
Cheers
Sheep
Monsterzonk
17-11-2008, 10:40
lol, you're mad! In a good way. :D
it's huge! maybe too huge... looks like it's twice the size of a regular chimera and couldn't that give it a disadvantage with the LoS-rules and all?
looking forward to see it finished!
Shield And Key
17-11-2008, 15:44
hahaha legos! i love it
I don't suppose you thought of a compass and scriber, or a keyhole saw and power drill to make the size wheel you want?
Thanks guys, yeah it is a touch big, but i can live with it, the russ will be huge :D
Faolan: i did think of it, but i a- don't have anyof the tools and b- can't be bothered :P
Cheers
Sheep
Sheep, it's worth the $15. Trust me!
When you say scriber what do you mean?
Cheers
Sheep
I think it looks a good shape but its maybe a tad too wide. You will be able to get away with it though because its not like your exactly recreating a skdf, its the 40k version afterall! Looking forward to seeing the finished article.
Cheers,
Dante
the twirly compass doodad and the sharp cutty bit attachment that you can get for them.
Always loved this log, so here's my thanks =] dont know if its too late though. I like the red coils as they are, but maybe they dont "pop" out enought from the rest of the minis? *shrug*
Btw, I'd have to say the chimaera looks a tad big albeit great as a concept
Wow sLai! Very nice, thats awesome, so good i almost despair about actually painting models! You almost convinced me to go blue . . . almost. Dammit, i thought i was happy with red.
Cheers
Sheepx
You should be happy with red! Red is super colour number one!
I love your DKOK guardmen's
Very good work paint
Damn, just read trough the entire log, really love all of your work, amazingly well painted.
Captain Brown
04-12-2008, 01:59
I like them as they started out...after all I do not want the Marine player to notice the Plasma Gun as that just encourages incoming fire. ;)
Beautiful work.
CB
Light of the Emperor
04-12-2008, 02:11
I bow to you sir!
Splendid DK!
daemonkin
04-12-2008, 08:03
I think the turquoise effect plasma is excellent. Really contrasts with the orange on the camo.
D.
Colonel Jacka
04-12-2008, 13:30
Bugger Sheep! :eyebrows: Soon I am on leave! I will be prolific! :eek:I will post more then you. More Squats! More Tanks and maybe some Cadian Light Horse! :p Good job mate.
Oi, mate, wheres the updates?! I'm missing the Krieg inspiration!
Cheers,
Dante
Dictator
05-12-2008, 02:27
Yeah, when can we see some updates?!
Hi everybody, nice to see i'm missed, and thanks to all of you for the comments and encouragement.
Not much painting done on the krieg in the last couple of weeks. A couple of reasons, its gotten Bull S**t hot around here recently, comptlely sapping my will to paint, and when have painted it been on other projects.
The first project was a result of buying AoBR boxset, finished the SM's in IF colours, and somehow aquired another set of orks, but the normal ones are boring, so i did these Commandos from black ork conversions for fun. Came up with a cool name, and pinched the GW colour scheme.
Kas-ork-in
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/ORks/update002.jpg
Also painted these guys for a 1000 point tournament played at my local hobby shop, i was lucky enough to come 7th and win best painted :)
7 Warriors w/rendingclaws and scy tals
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Tyranids/update003.jpg
Finally just to prove that somehting is actually being done with my pile of resin.
11 DKoK Wip
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/Sheep_06/Death%20Korps%20of%20Krieg/update001.jpg
Cheers
Sheep
Captain Brown
05-12-2008, 23:52
Wow, really nice.
Cool idea with the Orks. ;)
Let me be the 1000th reply on your thread (cause the first post does not count for reply stats).
Your Krieg continue to be the most visually appealing out there...and there are a lot of really nicely painted Krieg armies.
CB
hemogoblin
06-12-2008, 01:54
loveing the ork idea, some day i might steal it. :D
looking forward to seeing more DKOK from you.
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