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Partisan Rimmo
15-12-2006, 13:47
Ok, we have about 2 or 3 days left in which Amazon can garantee Christmas delivery. I need something for my cousin. He is 11 and has started his first 40K army (a little too young in my opinion, but then I started at that age...) I figure that the thing I can get him to really help him most with it (since apparently his enthusiasm is average, but to his credit he's been at it a while) is some really good fiction. So, on the Black Library I go.

BL being BL, nigh on everything is out of print. I would have liked to have got him the Ultramarines Omnibus, but it's out of stock. My options seem to consist of the various Horus Rising books (not ideal), Armour of Contempt (good, but not ideal) or Dawn of War: Tempest by CS Goto. Now, on Amazon, the single reveiw of DOW:T claimed it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, but of course I have a natural distrust of Goto and his machinations. So, I turn to you my good brothers of the Warseer. I require some lightning fast book reveiws so I can know whether or not to buy it or keep looking in the next hour or so (I'm going to be away from home for the next few days). Thanks muchly. Go go go!

zombied00d
15-12-2006, 13:59
Gaunt's Ghosts books. Get him the Omnibus.

Gutlord Grom
15-12-2006, 13:59
Tempest is okay. But that's it. It is just okay.
Horus Heresy books are okay for older, more background inclined readers.
Ultramarine Omnibus is probably best. Three books, in one. Also contains enough reading to keep him quiet for a week.
Armor of Contempt is probably a good idea. It'll just ruin the rest of the series for him.
Edit: The Deus series "probably" a bad read. Breaks every background concept there is.

Para
15-12-2006, 15:16
the ciaphas cain books are quite entertaining, but starting with the first (for the emperor) would probably be best...

vampking111
15-12-2006, 19:11
I'd p[robably go with the Eisenhorn Trilogy, it throws ou in at the deep end, but you do get a bit of action, somethinking and overall a very good ready.

Plus getting the omnibus as someone said, should keep him reading for a while.

I'm probably biased here, but Eisenhorn books arnt to gory, but arn't fluffy bunny filled either. There a good mix, and as the blurb says, its a mix between sci-fi war and detective book.

Destris
15-12-2006, 19:30
Highly recommend:

Eisenhorn Trilogy, some of the best books I've ever read. If you like these, Ravenor is also a must have.

Gaunts Ghosts. Brilliant, just brilliant.

Ultramarines Omnibus. Not as heavy as some of the other stuff, and an entertaining read.

Ciaphas Cain books. Start with the first one, brilliant style and horribly addictive.

Storm of Iron is also pretty decent.

The Blood Angels books (Deus whatevers) are fantastic, the sort of stuff that you don't like putting down.

Absolutely do NOT recommend no matter what you do unless you want to doom yourself forever:

Dawn Of War by C.S Goto. (AKA C.S. Gayo.) Awful book, no style, no rythm, no depth, but still horribly tedious. Awful excuse for a novel written by an illiterate ******.
Steve

dneff23
15-12-2006, 20:38
I recommend Storm Of Iron. The book is not tedious, interesting, and action packed. It should be a good read for your cousin :)

Kegluneq
15-12-2006, 20:40
Suitable for an eleven year old, though?

The OP didn't say what army his cousin was getting, but I'd recommend getting something related to that army. Just knowing his army's place in the 40k universe will make collecting and playing more rewarding for him, and he'll be encouraged to do something acceptable fluffwise with his backstory.

Chainsworded Codpiece
15-12-2006, 21:06
Don't go for an entire novel for an eleven-year-old if you're not sure that his army inclinations will hold. Or what part of the fluff grabs him the most.

Get him one of those damnable anthologies. The ones with names like Bringers of Death and such. Those are, I think, absolutely best-suited for younger readers. It allows them to cruise around and find what they like.

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that this young one is a decent reader, yes? So a thick anthology such as the one with the Jim Burns art on it(Dark Angels whuppin' ass on a yellow-ochre background) would be perfect, and won't intimidate the kid.

A mixture of good, deep-background, up-in-one's-head stories, and pure vicious war-porn, to keep one's excitement.

Of course I forget the the damned title. It's something generic and 40K-ish, though. Help from another respondent on the list?

Okidus
15-12-2006, 22:34
Horus Heresy Trilogy(soon to be quadrilogy), or Grey Knights

nazdreg5
16-12-2006, 02:29
the space wolf books. Really intense and really fun to read. Im guessing an 11 year old is gonna see space marines and say wow thats what i want. And then throw in wolves and its way better. so id vote for the Ragnar space wolf books.

Lord Cook
16-12-2006, 02:54
Gaunts Ghosts. Never looked back (or away from the page for that matter).

Rhamag
16-12-2006, 03:29
The Armageddon books and the Deathwatch series are also pretty good. Prob. Armageddon is more suitable for a younger fella. Other than that (obviously) Gaunt or Cain.

Rhamag
16-12-2006, 03:33
I said Deathwatch, but really I meant Grey Kinghts. Sorry. Heavy Flamers in Tactical squads is a bit rubbish...

PS. Does anyone at GWHQ actually read the BL books before they are published? Reading Eisenhorn for the third time, and noticed that the Deathwatch are (apparently) a chapter in their own right, and that they have their own Primarch!?!

Brother Fenix
16-12-2006, 03:39
For an eleven year old I would agree with you and go with Dawn of War Tempest. I have yet to read it, but I have read the Eisenhorn series, Ravenor (2 books), Horus series, and one of the Gaunts Ghosts books. I would say that the Ravenor books and Eisenhorn were entertaining, but not knowing what the maturity level of your cousin, Abnett can very occasionally make some adult themed passages or use occasional profane language. I noticed that they have a Warhammer 40K quiz book. You might consider that as it would provide some background on the universe and maybe he could quiz you on it later.

BaronDG
16-12-2006, 09:47
I wouldn't recommend Dawn of war. It might put him off from reading ever again. Storm of iron is good but I don't think very suitable for 11 years. I'd say the best tip here is the anthologies. Let the galaxy burn is 800 pages. Let him sink his teeth into that.

Fear is the mind killer
16-12-2006, 13:29
For The Emperor! would be my first choice. It doesn't take itself too seriously which is an important aspect of the hobby to get across. I'd also recommend Ravenor for a cinematic in-depth feel and any 40k short story collection (anthology?) as they are normally great stuff that appeals to everyone.