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21-01-2007, 21:40
I'm really not in the mood for painting recently. So as a break from the Harlequins (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51840) it seemed like a good idea to photograph some more of my collection of old stuff.

First up, one of the centrepieces of my Wood Elf army. The army itself hasn't been used in anger since the start of 5th edition, which was the last time I actually played WFB...



The howdah was made from the sides of an Elven War Wain and some round shields, with the supporting structure underneath being bits of sprue. The riders are also from the War Wain, with the addition of a net for the Elven Lord. Unfortunately the front foot of the handler has broken off.


You can see a bit of the wing texture here - the area between the ribs is made of much-scrumpled cartridge paper to get the right kind of feel.


The dragon is the old Great Spined Dragon, sculpted by Nick Bibby. I still rate this as one of the best dragon sculpts of all time, it was a hugely popular model for Golden Demon entries.
I had the model second-hand, and it had already lost a foot.

More photos to come later...


21-01-2007, 22:35
Thats an amazing Dragon, reminds me of the ex mother-in-law!

Love the shading

21-01-2007, 22:51
And some more of the dragon:


As you can imagine, this was a pretty big model to transport (the base is made up from EIGHT 40mm monster bases!), so it was made to come apart.


The howdah just lifts off,


While the wings have long pins but were never glued into the body.


Bases have never really been my strong point, this one is OK but nothing special. Quite heavy, though, as it's real rock.

21-01-2007, 22:56
Finally, the left and right profiles without the wings in the way:



As you can see, it also makes a surprisingly good wingless dragon!

It got me an interview for the 'Eavy Metal team at the start of the 90s, although I didn't get the job...

21-01-2007, 23:03
He... really amazing and trully practical. As for the base, I cant see why you think is no good...I find it truly nice, it adds to the model very much not distracting the attention from the actual model which is the dragon itself!

Top class for sure...

22-01-2007, 00:02
He... really amazing and trully practical. As for the base, I cant see why you think is no good...I find it truly nice, it adds to the model very much not distracting the attention from the actual model which is the dragon itself!
Thanks! The paint job on the base looks a bit 'flat' in real life - the stones are just grey with no different colours in them etc.

Next up is another Wood Elf showpiece - the Elven War Wain, sadly missed in 4th ed and a minor influence on my lack of WFB gaming, as I have two of these.





The top of the banner pole, the mage and the mage's hawk had all broken off. Some drilling, pinning and gluing later and it was in a fit state to photograph.

22-01-2007, 00:05
Detail shot of the crew. L-R: Mage, Elven Lord, Driver, Archer.



NOT something your opponents ever wanted to see thundering towards them!

That's all for today.


22-01-2007, 12:50
I'd like to have it thunder against me, or at least the classic model. It'd be a great game regardless of the result. Thanks for posting these older models; I'm a somewhat newer hobbyist this wish I was born ten years earlier whenever I see an older model.


22-01-2007, 13:04
Thats really nice, the base could use some retouch but other than that is stunning...feed us more!

22-01-2007, 18:01
You're still hungry? Good!

The third of the WE triumvirate needs a bit more pinning due to a snapped wing, so on to some 40k stuff.

Converted 1st ed 'chicken egg' Sentinel:





The idea was to make something that was even lighter and smaller as a scouting vehicle, hence the lack of heavy armament. The two barrel-like protrusions weren't guns on the original model, although I used them in games as a pair of SMGs.

To give an urban feel, the base was painted grey with road markings, and cracks radiating out from the footfall as even something small like this would have quite an impact when running.

22-01-2007, 18:12
And one of the odder conversions - a Chaos Squat in Exo-Armour, with arms from the Titan Weapon Variants range.

I present: Chaos Squatty Death Thing!





Game-wise we represented it having a special 12" 'grapple' attack - if it hit then the hapless target would slowly be dragged into close combat, fighting with a big Initiative modifier. And getting hit by a powerfist and a chainfist. Unfortunately, with a 3" move people just ran away from it.

He once managed to grab a Land Raider which promptly took off around the battlefield trying to shake it off, while the Squat just winched himself closer each turn...

22-01-2007, 20:53
On to one that hasn't been converted at all.

Eldar Ghost Warrior - this was basically the forerunner to the Wraithguard, and the introduction of spirit stone-driven constructs.



On the fists you can see some of my experiments with the then-new metallics paint set.

This is the 'mosquito-head' version with Shuriken Catapult and two Powerfists, the other one had a Flamer, a Powerfist and a Chainfist.
Game-wise they were very different from Wraithguard and were basically stealth assassins. They were made of 'stelthene' and were invisible to any kind of machine vision (of which there was a lot in the game). Basically, models using their own eyes could see them, everyone else stood there wondering what was hitting them!

22-01-2007, 21:05
In opposition to Chaos Squatty Death Thing!, we have the Squat Warlord with Multi-Melta - from the days when Multi-Meltas had a blast marker 4" in diameter... :evilgrin:




It's a pretty straightforward weapon swap having cut off the bolter, plus a bit of battle damage to the blade of the power-axe (pesky Terminators blunting my axe, grrr, grumble!).

You can see the original model here (http://solegends.com/citcat89/c894204squats-h.htm) (bottom right).

Warwolt the skaven
22-01-2007, 21:07
... I want that mini :<

22-01-2007, 21:19


The bulk of the armour was painted with multiple alternating layers of drybrushed metallic and shading washes of ink & paint, giving it plenty of depth.
The checks are all done by painting the area white (with a bit of shading), then drawing in the black squares with a technical drawing pen.
The gold is undercoated white, given a thorough covering of metallic gold and finally a fairly thick wash of dark brown paint thinned out with brown and chestnut inks to give a rich red-gold.

22-01-2007, 21:34
... I want that mini :<
:D They're turning up pretty regularly on eBay (http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%2Fws %2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=squat+exo+armour&category0=) at the moment, mostly in the £3-6 range, but with occasional greedy people asking upwards of a tenner. :rolleyes:

On the subject of technical pens - like many people, I'd struggled over the years with expensive, temperamental Rotring technical pens, until someone showed me a Mecanorma Graphoplex.
They don't seem to be easily available anymore outside France, but they were superbly designed. Costing a bit more than the equivalent Rotrings, they don't dry up! Yes, I kid ye not! Pick one up after a couple of years out of use, shake it gently a couple of times and start using. Try that with a Rotring and it'll be time for a soak bath or a new nib.

A quick search on the web only shows a few places in France (http://www.mirkenta.fr/detail-coffret-college-set-aristo-mecanorma-3-stylos-mg1-426.html) stocking them.

EDIT to add - I assume you were meaning the Squat? If it was the Ghost Warrior you'll have more trouble tracking one down.

22-01-2007, 23:51
A touch of scenery:


This is a resin piece, I believe it was from Fantasy Forge.


Plus a Celtic-themed Wood Elf for scale.

22-01-2007, 23:56
Nasty Nurgle Epic Stuff: Beasts of Nurgle and a Warhound with Vulcan Mega-Bolters.





Hmmm, green!

Do you ever find you keep gravitating back to the same set of colour combinations? For me it's green and purple - compare the Nurgle stuff to the Ghost Warrior further up.

23-01-2007, 00:06
Keeping to the Epic Chaos theme, a Lord of Change.




A nice. dynamic sculpt, although the wings are a bit flat. Far preferable to the 'vulture' thing (http://solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92407epicdaemons-01.htm) that replaced it (Lord of Change 2).

23-01-2007, 00:19
Green & purple again. :angel:

Epic Eldar Scout Titan.




Painted at least five years after the Ghost Warrior and pretty clearly on a different skill level, regardless of some dodgy shading on the purple gun cowlings. As with the Lord of Change, it could do with some kind of detail on the base to give a sense of scale.

I tried to subtly emphasise the 'organic' style of the sculpt, particularly in the red and purple areas. Successfully?

23-01-2007, 03:37
I love this thread, so full of great old memories!

I remember most of these models from my old days, all except for the altar/stone thing. Top notch work and please don't stop posting pictures!

I am more of a fantasy man myself though so if you have any more Fantasy to share please do!

23-01-2007, 09:18
There is more fantasy to come, but there won't be as much of it as 40k. I was always more into SF than fantasy...

23-01-2007, 10:18
I've always been, or at least a bit.


27-01-2007, 04:14
Okey Dokey, found time for some more photography - who needs sleep anyway!

Finishing the Epic theme for awhile we have a Tzeentchian Firelord - basically a flying super-heavy covered with guns. Pretty obviously inspired by Patrick Woodroffe's (http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/shirley/530/images/woodroffe/html/al_Woodroffe045_Documatic_Hermes_2.html) work, and one of the more characterful Epic sculpts.





27-01-2007, 04:20


The last one gives a better sense of scale, as the Lord of Change is on a 25mm base.

The paintjob was pretty quick and simple - the yellow and purple/pink on the wings was either pure glazes onto the white undercoat, or glaze mixed with a little bit of paint - this gives incredibly vivid colours. I think only the blue bodywork and the gun spheres really have anything in the way of layering - the green ribbing is just a wash of semi-separated green paint which just happened to be the right consistency.

The metal parts used my standard 'metallic then thick wash of paint+ink' technique.

Moving away from the SF theme (not that flying skull-heads are really SF as such!), here's a resin cave monster. I think it was a Grendel release.



27-01-2007, 04:38
Right. Warhammer time!

The one and only Water Elemental. Other companies have done nice versions, but this is still the definitive one for me.



Very heavy use of inks and glazes to get lots of subtly different colours in different areas. Even the foam is white paint mixed with inks rather than with blue paint.

Then an equally old blast form the past - Fimir! Not to be confused with the one-eyed Fomors of Irish mythology...



This was one of my earliest 'painterly' attempts, using inks, tube paints and all sorts, and the experiences led to later success with models like the Water Elemental and Firelord.

Rather than working up from a dark base colour, a pale base colour is used and with multiple layers of thin, darker paint & ink are used to paint in the shading - this leaves a lot of luminosity showing through from the white undercaot, and done right can give a figure that almost glows.

27-01-2007, 04:48

Classic 'holes cut in a bedsheet' Ghost.



Elric the White Wolf - as in the Michael Moorcock character who inspired the name of the games company White Wolf!

Not quite Warhammer, but he turned up in my Elf armies occasionally, and the accompanying Melnibonean models ended up being rolled into the old Elf range anyway.



This is the original albino with demon sword - pretty much all of Chaos in GW's games can be traced back to MM's books, possessed daemon weapons, mutations and all.

27-01-2007, 05:02
Now this is what Elf Lords used to look like. Others can be seen here (http://solegends.com/citcat912/c20192wecmd-h.htm).


You can imagine my disappointment when the superb Jes Goodwin sculpts were replaced in the 90s with flat-out cartoony Wood Elves. :mad: The newest ones aren't bad, but the late 90s WE models are mostly just embarrassing.

And a couple of mounted characters - champion and wizard.



The mounted characters used to come with tons of extra packs for the horses, like the one stuffed with a magic book and a pile of scrolls. The chapion had an axe added from another figure - I was trying to make him look like a mounted Wardancer.

27-01-2007, 05:09
At last we get to see some units, instead of characters and monsters!

Half of Skarloc's Wood Elf Archers - initially used as missile elites in 3rd ed and scouts in 4th ed.





An elf with an eye-patch - he must be an 'ard nut! These are substantially older, before I moved over almost 100% to white undercoat.

27-01-2007, 05:16
Here are some of Elric's compatriots - part of a unit of Melnibonean armoured archers - I usually used these as High Elf allies. There are another three, but their bases are bare.
There's also a half-finished unit of the two-sword infantry knocking around somewhere, but I've not tracked them down yet. You can see unpainted ones here (http://solegends.com/citec/ecmelniboneaninf.jpg).




27-01-2007, 05:25
By some strange coincidence, my 40k army of Harlequins was echoed by a largely Wardancer (plus tons of archers) Wood Elf army in Warhammer.

Two hand weapons:


Two-handed weapons:


This was a unit (bulked out with a few more models) that struck terror into most people I played against. :evilgrin:
The over-sized flails are actually Titan Wrecking Balls from Adeptus Titanicus/Epic.

Picking out a couple of the more interesting models:


The model on the left was one of the first elf models I painted with a white undercoat, I was hugely proud of it at the time.

27-01-2007, 05:30
And turn...


The war paint on the right figure was added at a much later date - pretty well all my wardancer models had war paint on them somewhere.

Back to single models again, we saw this one earlier giving scale to the stone - the Boar Handler.




Painted with a very limited palette, I think everything but the metallics had brown mixed in. Again, the war paint was added a few years later.

27-01-2007, 05:35
And now for something completely different:





Not long after the Marine armour variant models came out, they released a few variants on the variants, and this Mk.3 model appealed to me. With the weaponry on the model and the pose, an old-style jump pack/flight pack seemed like the logical addition. There are actually five of these, but the rest were only base coloured with no shading.

OK, 6:30am - time to get ready for bed...

Night all!

27-01-2007, 06:10
Fantastic paint jobs on these old school models, you have really ressurected these classics. I am honoured to read this thread!

27-01-2007, 07:09
Those are some great old skool models well done on the paint jobs they look great and really stand up too the march of time.



27-01-2007, 08:24
Sheep's right, and that Tzeentchian Firelord could be updated by sculpting for Aeronautica Imperialis. Hmm...


Quin 242
27-01-2007, 10:52
Definately liking the Crusader marine... but what is with the wire?

27-01-2007, 11:15
@ Nanktank - the paintjobs are as old as the models, in most cases... :)

Definately liking the Crusader marine... but what is with the wire?

I was using the backpacks as flight packs rather than jump packs, so they were actually flying around in the air rather than jumping - hence the high tripod stand.

27-01-2007, 19:25
Just realised there are a few photos taken but not added to the thread... :eek:



This was from Kryomek, and is large - the standing ones were a good 33mm from tip to toe. Can't remember who the sculptor was, but they did some stuff for GW before this. Possibly Colin Dixon?

27-01-2007, 19:34
And a mini-diorama that I've posted before in one of the M,P&T threads (dynamic poses?) - but these are better photos.





My best attempt so far at basing, with milliput rocks and even a few leaves. Mostly inspired by the then-new plastic skeletons, and a particularly irritating local Undead player.

27-01-2007, 21:28
Nice thread. Excellent paint jobs, too. How large is that elemental anyway? Is that a 40MM base? Would you happen to own the other elementals as well?

I'm looking forward to more pictures!

27-01-2007, 22:58
The circular base on the elemental is ~25mm diameter, so it's small by modern standards. Looks wonderfull in 15mm or 10mm games, though!

I was amazed to find that four of the elementals are still available from GW as a set (clicky (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110299045&orignav=9)). They have been put on 40mm bases here, so you get a better sense of scale.

I've got the fire elemental, but not painted.

There'll be more photos soon, I've finished pinning the third of the Wood Elf centrepieces. :evilgrin:

27-01-2007, 23:28
Ah, thanks. I'm planning to one day make a Tzeentchian CSM force with a bright and fantastical theme (vivid metallic yellow with an iron trim for armour and various fantasy creatures to represent spawn, hounds and daemonic gifts). Four elementals for £20, while not quite as large, seem rather cheap considering that a single spawn costs £12. That they're bright, magical creatures is a huge plus too.

But anyway. :D Thanks for the info!

28-01-2007, 00:11
Number three of the Wood Elf Triumvirate: A converted Elven Lord on an old Marauder Great Eagle.

Unfortunately, it had got rather battered and needed some major repair work before photography:


The left wing had snapped off completely, right at the narrowest cross-section. :cries: The rider has been removed before making repairs.


I also removed the greatsword pack as it was at risk during the repairs.


Nothing less than double-pinning was going to do the job as the wings are a good 80mm long.

28-01-2007, 00:20

Two pins, otherwise the wing would have rotated on a single pin and worked itself loose again.


Here you can see how horribly thin the wing is. :eek:
I used cut up paperclips for the pins as it's a good mix of strength and flexibility, and I didn't have any strong thinner wire.
However that requires 0.8mm holes, and the wing is so thin that I couldn't drill directly in - I had to start with a 0.6mm bit, open it out with a 0.7mm bit and finally widen it out enough for the pin. All with a pin vice, as the slightest error with a drill would have caused chaos.

Two broken 0.6mm bits later I had the holes - at that width the drill bits are so fragile that the slightest bending force will snap them, and knocking the pin vice off the workbench is a definite no-no!


Here you can see the rider, with his existing pin.

I also had to put a new pin into the upright part of the base, as it had just been plastic and had snapped off inside the eagle. For the sake of over-engineering, this was a hefty 2mm steel rod. I also cleaned up quite a bit between the bird and rider as it had been glued/worked loose/glued again a couple of times. Back in the first photo showing the top of the eagle, you can see the new area of cross-hatching so that there is a bit of texture for the superglue to get a grip on.

28-01-2007, 01:01

This is probably the single model that I am most proud of. Heavily converted, well painted and all tied together well. It's a really good feeling to have it back in one piece!

All together, there are parts from six different models:
Marauder Giant Eagle (http://solegends.com/marauder/mb16elfeagle.htm) - wonderful eagle, shame about the rider.
Legs from a mounted archer (either 08 or 14 (http://solegends.com/citcat88/0405elves.jpg)) - with the hand that was resting on the quiver cut away.
The top half of a Champion (06) (http://solegends.com/citcat88/0404elves.jpg).
The backpack and sword came from a couple of different packs of mounted personalities (http://solegends.com/citcat88/0406elves.jpg).
The banner disks come from the same set of command figures as the Champion (Standard Bearer 09 (http://solegends.com/citcat88/0404elves.jpg)).

Oh, and the octagonal base came from whatever the first version of Battlefleet Gothic was called.


If you look at the base of the wing, there is some filling and re-painting to do.



28-01-2007, 01:07


The band of blue-grey feathers on the wings seems to be just the right amount to break up the large area of even brown.


The beak and claws were painted after studying nature illustrations to try and get the right colouration and patterning.

28-01-2007, 01:20

A lot of time was spent getting the expression right on the face, even down to a subtle hint of five o'clock shadow.


I was never sure if the little leafy bit on the backpack was supposed to be a tree, or a sprig of celery! The pouch on top of the sword is a bit rough as it used to have a bow stowed there.


The disks look a bit dusty at this scale, but then it is blown up rather large.


As you can see, there is quite a bit of work still to go to get it looking absolutely pristine again - the wing is so thin that the pins actually protrude slightly.

It'll do for now, though.

EDIT - no more photos until tomorrow...

28-01-2007, 06:32
a piece of work like that is always worth the effort. WHW is always looking for these for its museum, they scrapped the early mouldings so they love to see the old stuff again

28-01-2007, 11:38
For a bit of a change - an unpainted figure! Shock! Horror!





The eagle is the 'old' Eagle of the Misty Mountains, from the first time that GW had a Lord of the Rings licence. They briefly appeared in normal Warhammer blisterpacks ~1990, and when some turned up in a sale for 99p each I bought every one I could get my hands on! Ended up with half a dozen.

This is still the best 28mm eagle sculpt I've ever seen - the later GW ones tend to be too cartoony (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99060204064&orignav=9), with massively oversized feet (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99060204008&orignav=9), undersized wings (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110204081&orignav=9) or just bad posing. The current LoTR one (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99111499048&orignav=9) isn't too bad, though. Non-GW ones tend to be either bland or bizarre (http://marbles.frothersunite.com/eagles.html).

Conversion-wise, the rider was cut at the waist and rotated 90 degrees, and the axe head was replaced with a flail. What kind of nutter wields a flail when riding on the back of a flying creature boggles the mind, though.

You can probably tell that I've never been a fan of models riding on giant eagles by standing up on their backs...

28-01-2007, 11:43
Hm, that eagle model should be imitated in a newer model if GW had more than wood in their skulls. 99p each; I'd dream of such prices nowadays!


28-01-2007, 11:51
I was a bit shocked, they had been either £2.99 or £3.99 normally. Which is still pretty cheap by modern standards.

P.S. I did do a lot of work bending the wings into the right shape for a 'braking' pose with the wings cupping the air.

P.P.S. The rider is a regular foot infantry Wood Elf, this eagle was never designed for a rider.

28-01-2007, 13:52
Great thread Ian!
Those old minis, especially Marauder ones (MB1 Dwarf regiment, Giant, Pegasus with imperial Captain to name a few) have something the new GW ones do not.

28-01-2007, 14:42
It's interesting to see all those old minis. They are well painted :)

My eyes hurt from seeing all this green flocked bases though :P I hate such old school bases.

28-01-2007, 19:58
Thanks for taking the time to post up all this.


29-01-2007, 13:30
Time for a quiz - any guesses what this is?


P.S. Looking at the name of the image file won't work... ;)

Dat Wildboy
29-01-2007, 13:41
its something very large... either a mammoth or dragon of some kind. maybe a rhino type thing.

29-01-2007, 13:42
Random single figures:



Champion of Chaos - I was really proud of this one at the time, especially the shading on the sword blade. The red fabric was first painted in black and white, and then several thin layers of translucent red paint went on top.

The flower was made of plasticine, coated in superglue to make it a bit more robust. I hadn't come across milliput or anything else at the time.



Another early experiment with the metallic paint set.

29-01-2007, 13:49
its something very large... either a mammoth or dragon of some kind. maybe a rhino type thing.
Close, but no cigar! But it's definitely big...

I'll give everyone a bit more time to guess. Meanwhile:




I'm not generally a big fan of over-sized weaponry (one reason for not buying any newer Wood Elves), but sometimes you have to make exceptions to your own rules. :D
This model was stolen, but found it's way back to me via a very roundabout route, very battered and missing his axe. Digging around in the bits box, I found the axe from a He-Man figure and thought it might be a bit big, but tried it anyway.
One re-paint later, and the Chaos Minotaur Lord was reborn from the ashes, twice as nasty as before!

29-01-2007, 13:59
More random stuff.

Night Horrors Vampire:



He had a nice sculpted base showing flagstones. Unfortunately, he was in the display case in the local GW store for quite a while, the staff forget it was mine and flocked the base so they could use him in a game! Grumble grumble.

Old Marauder Orc:



That's a 20mm base! It's a nice sculpt, but even by the standards of the day it was a bit on the wimpy side.

29-01-2007, 14:20
Anyone remember this guy?


Scroll down to see more.

Almost there...


The original Dragon Ogre, another sculpt by Nick Bibby.

29-01-2007, 14:22
Another couple of Wood Elf bits.

Big Cat Handler:



Zoat Warrior:



Nick Bibby again.

29-01-2007, 14:30
If you go down to the woods today,
You'd better not go alone
It's lovely down in the woods today,
But safer to stay at home.
For ev'ry 'shroom that ever there was,
Will gather there for certain, because
Today's the day the Mush-rooms have their picnic.





I think this was another Fantasy Forge resin piece.

29-01-2007, 15:12
That is possibly the most insane model of all time. Period.

- Huw

29-01-2007, 15:13
Here's another clue to the mystery model:


Not that it's a very good clue...

29-01-2007, 15:16
That is possibly the most insane model of all time. Period.
Yeah, when I saw it on the shelves there was just no way to resist!

At some stage when I GM a fantasy game the first unit to go into a wood is going to get a nasty surprise... :angel:

EDIT - I'll reveal the identity of the mystery model later tonight, getting on for midnight GMT.

29-01-2007, 16:04
Damn I love this thread, it just keeps going from good to great to better!

That mushroom model is wacky, very characterful and fun, I kind of miss those types of models, you don't see them so much now a days.

As for your mystery model, it looks like something covered in fur, the first pic looks like it could be an eye, maybe... I'm going to say some sort of giant yeti or mammoth?

29-01-2007, 16:15
It does look a bit like fur, doesn't it. But no, the Yeti is stone cold...

29-01-2007, 17:00
I was thinking an eye at first... but now... no idea.

29-01-2007, 17:04
The first one is indeed an eye.

Think big, but the model is so obscure you're unlikely to guess by having ever seen the model before. :eek:

EDIT - another clue, the eye is about the size of a human head. :eek:

29-01-2007, 18:50
Its some kind of treeman type thing I think, The first pic is an eye, and you can see leaves at the top. Second pic is a scenic base with roots rising up.


29-01-2007, 19:04
youve got quite an impressive collection of the obsure going here!

Im normally a 40k player, but I love the nostalgia of old skool mini's. Even If I cant find some of the pieces here Im feeling the urge to go and buy some fantasy chaos or undead stuff just to paint up for show.

oh, and the mystery model wouldnt have anything to do with THE ATTACK OF THE MUSHROOM PEOPLE now would it? just my guess....

29-01-2007, 22:33
Its some kind of treeman type thing I think, The first pic is an eye, and you can see leaves at the top. Second pic is a scenic base with roots rising up.
Bingo! It is indeed a treeman.





29-01-2007, 22:38
The scary bit is the size:


Yes, this is a short-and-stumpy treeman that stands 120mm high. :eek:

This model has fissures in it that are bigger than a lot of models...

I dread to think how big it would be if it had proper legs... :eyebrows:

29-01-2007, 22:55
Okay, that wood elf now officially cracks me up. He's disproportionally hilarious to what he actually is! Maybe it's because I think it looks like he has a moustache... :p And that vest! :D He looks so intense.

That's one odd treeman, though. When and where is it from?

29-01-2007, 23:01
To be honest I can't remember! I picked up from a stall at a Plymouth Association of Wargamer's convention sometime back in the 90s, but can't remember the name of the manufacturer. It never had any packaging.

EDIT - I also bought a 15mm wizard's tower at the same time, so it might be from Snapdragon Studios (http://www.moondragons.com). They've got a giant treeman listed at £70 unpainted, but no photo. Time to email them and ask!

Quin 242
30-01-2007, 00:46
IJW.. thanks for that link... some good stuff on there.
Might not buy it but I'm sure i can replicate it :)

30-01-2007, 09:51
I've just had a reply from Snapdragon (nice and quick!) - it is one of their models.

The boyz
30-01-2007, 10:30
Wow, that is one fantastic collection of miniatures IJW. I love those squat models they look awesome. I like the WE Dragon aswell. That Treeman model looks insane.

30-01-2007, 11:39
[QUOTE=IJW;1254199]Time for a quiz - any guesses what this is?

Is it one of those lovely Snapdragon treemen. I used to have one - I think I still got it somewhere...

It would go rather nicely with my Darkwood project.....

Warwolt the skaven
31-01-2007, 06:48
HOHO! Now thats an awesome mini... man. Old Skool iz zer kool ^^

floyd pinkerton
31-01-2007, 20:58
these are pretty sweet. I'll have to dig out some of the marauder stuff i got given. One's an ogre model that's actually older then me :D

21-02-2007, 20:34
After a slight break... back when clubbers were new.


Now, leaving the realms of GW/Citadel for awhile, a game I played quite a bit was Kryomek, by the now-defunct Grendel Miniatures. I've shown this NBC-suited model before, but took a couple of better shots:



21-02-2007, 20:52
Kryomek was a game between the Human 'Nexus' empire and the alien 'Kryomek' hive organism. The Kryomek had a lot of similarities with modern Tyranids, but were closer in look to Aliens aliens.

The basic Nexus troops were conscripted criminals called Cyclos. They were given a bit of training, some unreliable and cheap weaponry, along with a mind-control rig that pumped them full of combat drugs. Not the most reliable of troops, but the sculpts were nice.

Unarmoured Cyclos:



You can see the mind-control thingummybob on their heads - on the NBC model in the previous post you can see the equivalent outer covering on the suit.

They tended to be armed with machine pistols and other 'spray and pray' weapons, in an attempt to make up for their woeful training. Chainguns were another popular choice, while for close combat they were equipped with shock-prods - basically a shotgun shell on the end of a touch-sensitive telescopic pole. It didn't help much.

The Nexus forces also used a large number of robots on the battlefield, including this little ED209-lookalike:


Twin LMGs. And FOUR chainguns. :eek:

Mind you, all that did was give fairly minor accuracy and damage bonuses. We used to joke that the fastest way for it to move was to face backwards and let rip with all the guns...

P.S. A lot of the models are still available from Scotia (http://www.scotiagrendel.com/index.html).

EDIT - the Hellcats came in three classes, the Fury as seen above, the Cerberus which had LMGs and a couple of electromagnetic cannon, and the Loki which had LMGs plus a ton of sensors and communication dishes for reconnaissance duties.

21-02-2007, 20:59
This one was from Grenadier, from their near-future range. Originally it was unarmed, I added the multilaser from the previously shown Sentinal as it makes a great gatling cannon.




Probably a bit steampunk in feel for Infinity, but it has a certain charm of it's own.

21-02-2007, 21:11
Going to a different scale (and much further back) this is a scratch-built Epic Juggernaut from the days of Adeptus Titanicus.

Made from a 1/72 tank, plasticard and LOTS of Zoid parts. With a plastic Rhino for scale.


The second of two interchangeable gun-turrets:


Apart from the loading ramp at the front, theres very little that is scale-specific in this model. With a tiny bit of imagination I think it would make a good robotank for 28mm games:


That's all for now...

21-02-2007, 22:20
Always good to see some different miniatures IJW, and yours are just quality.

What did the Kryomek look like?



21-02-2007, 22:31
I'll try and dig some out tomorrow, but they aren't finished. They were very like movie Aliens but with organic guns.

22-02-2007, 13:29
Those Cyclos are ace, and they may fit the bill for that Necro gang I'm still dreaming of ... Any chance at a gellery type link to go with that ordering link? I'll do some google-fu in a sec, but thought I might push my luck first :D

Actually, barring pics do you remember which those models actually are? Looking here (http://www.scotiagrendel.com/nexus1.html) I can't really tell ...

Thanks though!

- Salvage

22-02-2007, 13:35
Scotia don't seem to be supporting them very well, half the pictures are missing. :(

The unit is mostly 'Cyclos Infantry' (no idea if it's pack 1,2 or 3) plus a chaingunner from one of the Heavy Weapons packs.

They do make very nice 'lo-tech' SF Humans, regardless of system.

23-02-2007, 11:30
OK, some more Kryomek stuff.

Kryomek Warriors, armed with Spore Launcher and Bio-acid Lance:


Size comparison to a 30mm Human:


On a slightly bigger scale, Kryomek armies were led by Warmasters. Does this look like a Zoanthrope, or do Zoanthropes look like Warmasters...? I leave it to you to decide.



Yes, that's on two 40mm bases.

Game-wise, the Warmasters controlled the rest of the army via pheromones, with a differing area of effect depending on whether they were raised up in the air or not. Kill the Warmaster and the rest of the army would be easily mopped up. If you're thinking that this sounds rather similar to Synapse, you'd be right. Not that it's original to Kryomek, but as far as game mechanics are concerned it's very similar.

Like movie Aliens, Kryomek had acid blood and a lot of their weapons used the bloodstream as a source of ammo, increasing the potency of it and then projecting it in various manners. The bio-acid guns ranged from pistol-type sprays, through guns and up to the fearsome Corroder Lance of the Warmasters.

23-02-2007, 11:50
More Cyclos. I wasn't really planning on photographing these as they are so unfinished. But there seems to be quite a bit of interest in these figures as they are still available, and pictures of them are almost non-existent on the web! :mad:

Another squad of unarmoured Cyclos. Well, unarmoured apart from leg greaves - walking around on a Kryomek battlefield without hefty boots tended to lead to you ending up a foot shorter...


This squad is mostly equipped with Gauss Rifles, with a Recoilless Rifle and Grenade Launcher for support.

The rest of the squad of NBC suits:


This is a bit of a mixed bag, with one Gauss Rifle, two Heavy Flamethrowers, two Recoilless Rifles, and two CC specialists with Machine Pistols and combat shields.

I've got other Cyclos which are unpainted, and will photograph them as well at some stage. Given the lack of photos available it seems like a good thing to do as they are sweet sculpts. At 30-32mm in height they fit well with all the current oversized stuff.

23-02-2007, 14:00
Thank you for the pics IJW! Spent a long time yesterday trying to find pics with very little success. I've e-mailed Kryomek USA at two different addresses so far, one which went undelivered and the other is unanswered as of yet. I have the order form from 2004 printed too, and since they take PayPal on there I may give it a shot. Worst case my letter is returned, best case the company still exists and I get a bunch of cyclos!

On the Kryomek themselves, I actually like the warmasters quite a bit, especially the spore launcher and the corroder lance ones. The masses of hellions they made are neat too, in a Tremors 2 way. Also, have you seen the Swarmaster? Wow is that awesome, and $125 in the color ad I found online.

Thanks for turning me on to this stuff, made for a lot of surfing fun :D

- Salvage

23-02-2007, 17:37
I've not seen the Swarm-master, have you got a link?

Anyway, on with a bit more misc stuff.

15mm Arabian Nights Flying Carpet. This is on a 20mm base.


I realised there was no scale photo for the Grenadier spider thing, so here it is with an old RT IG heavy weapon trooper, on a standard 25mm slottabase:


And the IG in close-up:



This was a ten-minute special - everyone locally thought there was no way you could paint a useable model in ten minutes, so I proved them wrong!

From bare metal to painted, but without the basing or gun:
Slap some black on, then drybrushed silver for the metals, grey followed by light grey highlights for the bulk of the figure leaving black in the creases, white followed by Snakebite Leather for the browns, a bit of flesh on the face and finish off with the eyes.

23-02-2007, 17:38
Those Kryomek are sweet as. Really well painted too.

How long ago did this game come out?



23-02-2007, 17:41
Early Nineties? I'll have to dig out the rulebook and look for a copyright date.

23-02-2007, 17:57
Hehe great to see the old school mini's getting a view.
I'm glad to be able to go through these and say to myself got that and that etc....
Only problem is that it reminds me I still have 6 of those dragon ogres sitting on my shelf waiting to be painted.


23-02-2007, 18:13
You can find it here (http://www.fictionalreality.org/archive/17/fr017.pdf) on page 64 of the Fictional Reality #17 PDF.

- Salvage

23-02-2007, 19:14
IJW, you are - wonderfully enough - a wandering hobby-lexicon, with all the archaeological data included.


23-02-2007, 22:31
How long ago did this game come out?
1991. :eek: I'd not realised it was quite so long ago. And it was Fantasy Forge, not Grendel. Looking through the credits is like looking through a who's who of late Eighties GW staff/freelancers - Chaz Elliot, Kevin Walker, Pete Knifton, Tony Ackland, Adrian Smith, Stephen Tappin etc.

;1326616']IJW, you are - wonderfully enough - a wandering hobby-lexicon, with all the archaeological data included.
:cool: You'll make me blush!

You can find it here (http://www.fictionalreality.org/archive/17/fr017.pdf) on page 64 of the Fictional Reality #17 PDF.
Holy mackerel! It's not a very good sculpt, but boy is it big! That's got to be a good 15" high, and more than two feet long if it was straightened out...

I've attached a screengrab for people who don't want to wade through the 20MB PDF.

23-02-2007, 22:39
Back firmly to GW territory again...

We've already seen one of the old Eldar Ghost Warriors:


Well, here's an earlier attempt - my first try at flames:



From the same era, some of the original Traitor Marines:


The green one in the middle was the second ever treacher model, after the one with the tentacle arm. Originally they were both released as limited edition models, but later they made it into the regular releases. Grrrr.

23-02-2007, 22:48
While we're on the topic of marines...



Two of the heavy weapon troopers with separate weapons. A Heavy Plasma Gun or Plasma Cannon as it's now called, and a Heavy Bolter.

Can you imagine seeing any current model with a heavy weapon and a powerfist? :D

Now it's time to pay our respects to the dead with a minute's silence:


Yay for Squats!

23-02-2007, 22:54
Plus a couple of the Squat's sworn enemies. On a buggy.


A buggy with a replacement wheel, that is.


Now, in a bad attempt at a smooth transition, these models are also green: :eyebrows:


A mix of classic Chaos Warriors and Champions of Chaos.

24-02-2007, 00:52
Wicked stuff, you have to love the classics!

24-02-2007, 07:58
That eldar ghost warrior is terribly nice - sad it is no longer availabe, since it'd make a perfect scout spirit warrior. I hope that FW might revive them, still.


24-02-2007, 08:07
I checked the other day and was amazed to find that they are still available in the classics range!

Here (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=71521/17&orignav=301117) and here (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=71521/18&orignav=301117), £4 a piece.

So much for my plans to sell the unpainted ones for a ton on eBay. :cries:
On that note I was amused/enraged to see someone selling Kryomek Warriors on eBay for £8 each plus £5 postage, when they are still available new at £3.99 for two... :wtf:

Scotia really need to promote these models better if someone can even ask more than four times the going rate!

16-03-2007, 10:14

A mix of classic Chaos Warriors and Champions of Chaos.

That unit reminds me of Ian Miller's artwork... I got one of his books, and it uses a lot of green with white/blue faces... thought I should mention (oh and the spiky stuff there too)


16-03-2007, 17:50
how did you paint teh orks?

Quin 242
17-03-2007, 14:03
Now it's time to pay our respects to the dead with a minute's silence:


Yay for Squats!

I play these all the time :)

20-03-2007, 16:54
That unit reminds me of Ian Miller's artwork... I got one of his books, and it uses a lot of green with white/blue faces... thought I should mention (oh and the spiky stuff there too)
It wasn't intentional, but I'm certainly a fan of Ian Miller's artwork.

how did you paint teh orks?
Layered up from black through various greens and up to yellow, then several glazes of yellow ink, with a tiny bit of green ink mixed in.

I play these all the time :)
Good! At one stage Squats were my main army.

Quin 242
20-03-2007, 20:26
I don't have a MAIN army. I switch up pretty much every time I play :(

But I have more than enough squats to play at 2250 points with no vehicles as an IG army :)
And that army is HEAVY. Lots of lead involved :)

You got any more squats to show off?

Wolf Scout Ewan
20-03-2007, 21:40
Thx for all the memories!

21-03-2007, 16:46
You got any more squats to show off?
A few heavy weapon trikes and a bunch of bikes. Apart from the Exo-Armour Warlord w. Multi-Melta that was already posted...

Quin 242
21-03-2007, 21:03
Bring em on :)

21-03-2007, 22:05
Anyone remember this guy?

The original Dragon Ogre, another sculpt by Nick Bibby.

I have been looking to buy one of these for ages!!! Looks great, far better than the newer Dragon Ogre sculpts.

Rabid Bunny 666
22-03-2007, 00:09
Can you imagine seeing any current model with a heavy weapon and a powerfist? :D

You have never been to a beginners daythen :evilgrin:

I'm liking this old skool stuff alot, the quality is awesome, and how did they not scratch? It seems like all my models chip the instant i look at them :D

Angry Lawyer
22-03-2007, 00:13
Man, I love Bibby's sculps :D

-Angry Lawyer

22-03-2007, 09:35
I love old GW mini's and yours look great. Can't wait to see more pics.

22-03-2007, 10:03
Lots of great things Here :)

bram kuijpers
22-03-2007, 10:05
clasic is great

Lord Commander Eidolon
30-07-2007, 14:56
I tried to subtly emphasise the 'organic' style of the sculpt, particularly in the red and purple areas. Successfully?[/QUOTE] very well in my humble opinion

30-07-2007, 21:36
Nice threadomancy! over 4 months!!! And not only that I don't even understand what your post says?

01-06-2008, 23:00
Marauder Chaos Dwarves:




Ye Olde Collection thread has risen from the grave, with more to come over the next week... :)

01-06-2008, 23:06
Did I say grave? Note the very slight touch of red in the eye sockets.


P.S. Many of the Marauder Chaos Dwarf models were copies of current Chaos Warrior models, certainly the ball-and-chain, two-handed sword and two-sword ones were.

02-06-2008, 08:07
Oh dang, I love them chaos dwarfs!


02-06-2008, 12:44
Some more assorted Warhammer stuff.

A couple of models from the old Lords of Battle range:

Amazonia Gothique, based on John Blanche's illustration of the same name (http://darklondon.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/influences-john-blanche/) (still one of my favourite pieces of fantasy art), and a model that I think was related to Warlock of Firetop Mountain. Both painted a loooooong time ago...

Classic Chaos Warrior, painted purely with inks and a bit of metallic. It always amazes me how well Jes Goodwin's sculpts have aged - this one is from '87 (or is it '85?) and would still look awesome in a 'modern' Chaos army.

02-06-2008, 15:54
More Warhammer/fantasy.

An old solid-based Halfling.

Minotaur. Is it just me, or do the teeth on this one remind you of a horse's?

And I found another of the hungry mushrooms...


ancient god
02-06-2008, 18:15
Wow, very good thread. Very enjoyable. :) It's nice to see the old techniques along with a bit of explanation as to how they were used.

02-06-2008, 18:31
Good to see you and your oldies-but-goodies again, IJW. Those chaos dwarfs are indeed quite nice, I like. The hungry 'shroom is pretty cool as well :)

- Salvage

02-06-2008, 18:36
Loves those chaos dwarfs :)

And I gotta have that spider x)

Tracked down the company that has the mold for it atm by they haven't begun to make it yet but hopfully soon :)

02-06-2008, 19:06
Thank you kind sir for the trip down memory lane. I'd forgotten I had that undead standard: now I have to find it in my mum's loft! I've been unloading most of my old stuff after I accepted that 20 years down the line they still weren't painted and deserved to go to a more caring home.

02-06-2008, 19:07
Drong - you mean the steampunky spider? That would be neat.

The remnants of my Skaven Bloobowl team.


You'd never guess that this was about the time that chainsaws were added to BB, would you? And yes, that's a Bolter that the blitzer is carrying - not for any effect in the game but because it looked cool.


I suppose these were a precursor to the newer dipping techniques - white undercoat, base colour, then a black wash, I think of tube acrylic watered down quite a bit. Oh, and the Rat Ogre had loads of spikes made from the ends of cocktail sticks but they all broke off over the years as this was before I'd leanred all those advanced techniques like 'drilling holes' and 'pinning'... :p

02-06-2008, 19:47
DarkMark - I'm slowly doing that myself, expect to see some old stuff going on ebay in the next few weeks...

Right, back to 40k. I'd forgotten how tiny the original Ratlings were:


Plus one of the two original Adeptus Sororitas models, with a replacement sword:


And a Grey Knight Terminator:


This is from back when GK Terminators were all insanely powerful* Psykers, hence the noticeable lack of guns - there's a mini-Bolter on the back of the Nemesis Force Axe, but it only held a couple of shots.

*As in - 'I'll telekinesis that Land Raider a hundred feet into the air, fly it over that way and drop it on your Devastators, and my Battle Brother will pause time so that you don't get a shooting phase, and my other Brother will accelerate time so that we get another Psychic Phase' etc. etc. One 1st ed game I was involved in had 6,000 points of Chaotic Genestealer Cult including possessed Genestealer Patriarchs etc. while the other side consisted of 3,000 points of GKTs (2x5 and a couple of ICs) teleporting in. After one turn the amount of points on each side had levelled. :eek:

02-06-2008, 19:55
The oldest 40k model I own - technically it's so old that it isn't a 40k figure!



The tab says 'DEATH SQUAD' on one side and '©1985' on the other - two years before 40k. Very clearly what became a Space Marine, though. Painted so long ago that the B&W bits are enamels instead of acrylic...

02-06-2008, 20:31
This place seems to have the molds now and has made alot of the figures and are still working on making more


I have mailed them about the spider "Arachnodroid", and hoping that they will say they will :)

And that Grey knight look great, old models has much more character than most new.

02-06-2008, 21:47
Interesting. The Future Wars range had a couple of nice vehicles in resin, as I remember. I've got the Gentleman Scavenger (http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=gentleman-scavenger&cName=future-warrior-28-mm) somewhere, as well.

While we're on the subject of non-GW stuff, I found another Kryomek unit:


I can't remember the name, but they were basically the juvenile form of the larger warriors.

While these are 15mm Alternative Armies models:


02-06-2008, 21:55
More shots of the 15mm stuff, including a nice scout vehicle with rotary cannon.




If I ever get around to doing some 15mm SF using Stargrunt or similar these'll definitely be hitting the table.

For a size reference, these are on one pence pieces for bases, so 20mm diameter - making them closer to 20mm in scale than the 15mm they were sold as.

02-06-2008, 21:59
Finally, (for today) a taster of the WFB army that I haven't shown anything from... :)


Killy-killy death-death!

03-06-2008, 08:01
Now - this must be one of my favourite threads :) Funny also how your collection is scarely similar to mine! Just out of curiosity - wich year were you born?

03-06-2008, 09:34

It may be awhile until I get to the rest of the Skaven, in the meantime here's some random Epic stuff.

Assorted infantry and a Ultramarines Rhino that's actually painted in ultramarine. :angel: Why i started painting Epic harlequins individually I'll never know...

Eldar Knights.

03-06-2008, 09:36
Predators, in temperate camo and desert camo.


Shadowsword company in desert camo.


Baneblade company in desert camo.

03-06-2008, 10:27
You have a really nice collection of models! It was fun wading through them, as you could never expect what you would find next!


03-06-2008, 15:27
Nice collection & very good painting considering at what time period they were painted.

13-06-2008, 20:21
Another quick taster for the future...


13-06-2008, 21:17
So, chaos killy killy ratmen, AKA Skaven! Skaven were my second-and-a-half* army in Warhammer, after the Wood Elves shown earlier in the thread.

That first guy again, this time with a few mates...


Clan Skryre were always my favourite. This is the original Warplock Jezzail team, painted in a simple base colour plus black wash, like the Bloodbowl Skaven a few posts back.


They have a few friends as well:


Back in 3rd/4th this was seen as a massive unit of Jezzails. These days it's just normal.

*I'll explain later. ;)

13-06-2008, 21:20
Burny-burny death-death! Unfortunately I seem to have mislaid a few of these, there should be at least five Warpfire Thrower teams. :(


Plague Censor Bearers, but without a proper Plague Monk unit for them to sit in front of.


13-06-2008, 22:34
And the heavy stuff...



Unfortunately they were painted over a period of time and my painting techniques changed quite a bit over the time. Each successive group of moels ended up brighter and more orange as time went past, ending up with this unit
being known locally as the Curry Brigade...



These are probably the models that have changed most over time, turning into the over-sized monsters of today. It might just be nostalgia, but these still feel more like rat/ogre hybrids than the current ones - only two poses, and flat poses at that, but definitely with character.

Anyone else prefer these to the newer ones?

13-06-2008, 22:39
Part-painted General.


Crappy Skavenslaves, see if you can spot the BB figure in there.


Noooooo-one expects... the Skaven Assassin!



Hiding from the enemy by wearing a bright red cloak...

13-06-2008, 22:47
Gutter Runners. The middle model was also used as an Assassin at times.



Now the centrepiece unit of the army, the Stormvermin (with broken banner pole):



Not that Stormvermin were all that good, but I used to talk them up so much that people would go out of their way to take them out, not realising how cheap they were. I think the Warpfire Thrower team and Globadiers attached to the unit cost more than the unit did...

13-06-2008, 22:52
Some more shots:





13-06-2008, 23:03
Now, for BajsArne (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140121), a comparison of the musician and globadier models:



That's the bulk of the painted part of the army, there were then about 70 clanrats that never got beyond black undercoat, normally in a 50-rat block and a smaller unit. Plus several more Warpfire Throwers, and a minor hero on a Chimera.

Now, 'second-and-a-half' army time. In between doing WE & Skaven (at the very end of 3rd ed) I dabbled with the idea of doing a beardy/cheesy army. In fact, in 3rd ed. it was THE beardy army (apart from five High Elf Dragonriders). Almost an entire army made up from elites, lots of magic, really colourful, decent cavalry but not much in the way of missile troops.

Oh, and they were green. Not Orc green, but amphibious green, possibly even Kermit green... Can you guess yet? :D

14-06-2008, 21:55
Thank you! I don´t think I have that particular PWG yet but I have seen it before. The breathing apparatus was a but more realistic on these models. And somehow it was also more effective!

I like the old rat ogres better too, the new ones just don't look ratty enough.

14-06-2008, 23:43
Nice to see these old models. :)

15-06-2008, 11:06
I fully agree on the Rat Ogres. The old metal Skaven are fantastic models, and your army serves as an example of the golden age of Warhammer ;)

15-06-2008, 12:41
Has anyoe else noticed that the chain glove rat ogres have a belt plate almost identical to the blood bowl skaven of the same era? I have always thought that someone was hoping for rat ogres in blood bowl for 2nd edition.

15-06-2008, 12:59
Same concept designer (Jes Goodwin, god amongst model sculptors*), same sculptor (JG), same time. I actually used a converted Rat Ogre as an Ogre in BB.

The convex round plates with rivets around the edge were also something of a trademark of Jes Godwin's in the late Eighties and early Nineties, they're on the Skaven of the time, many of the classic Chaos Warriors and Chaos Champions, without the rivets they even make up some of the armour on the pre-Craftworld Eldar!

I'm glad other people feel the same way about the old Rat Ogres, the ones that replaced them were a bitter disappointment to me. :(

* It's no coincidence that most of the armies I have a lot of figures for were done by Jes Goodwin...

15-06-2008, 13:06
When I was a young fanboy I remember hearing some older guys talking about citadel miniatures and said something like "They only really have one good designer, Jes Goodwin, the rest are quite bad". Back then I did not understand what they meant, but I do now.

15-06-2008, 15:00
I've been waiting for this thread to make a comeback! Brings back sweet memories of when I got into the hobby, even though alot of this stuff was already phased out by then.

The models for the skaven army look really well in my opinion. The units look far more dynamic than the modern plastics.

15-06-2008, 15:32
BajsArne - that's probably over-stating it, on the other hand even his bad figures are pretty good. ;)

Satan - yep, plastic rats bad-bad!

I suppose everyone's guessed the identity of the Kermit-coloured models by now. Yes, it's the Slann! Back from the time when they were a tabletop army (incredibly rare to see, but a regular army) and were basically frogman versions of Aztecs, down to animal warriors and obsidian-bladed weapons.



15-06-2008, 15:47
Well if the skaven and epic ones are classic, I guess this one is archaic then.

15-06-2008, 15:59
About the same time period as the JG Skaven ('85-'87), but a few years older than Epic. They never made the transition from WFB 3rd to 4th edition.

Warlord Ghazak Gazhkull
17-06-2008, 19:08

there are some great models between it, I really love some of these classic minis.


18-06-2008, 15:10
I stumbled upon this thread thanks to a bit of necromancy, and now I'm glad I did ... lots of fondly remembered stuff in here, I'll subscribe and wait for more updates :D

BTW, those netters in post #83 ... I still own the two variants of those poses (now part of my "new" NG army), but I had to sell my clubbers and all of my old skaven models 10 years ago, during a particularly bad time ... I'm sad I did, those were marvelous sculpts, but I had to choose between my models and keeping my fridge stocked back then :cries:

10-11-2008, 17:14
Back from the dead - again!

Over the next few weeks I'm going to be gathering together some of my part-done models, finish the paintwork and base them, and then sell some of them on eBay for Christmas.

Not only will you get to see some more frequent updates to this log, but a select few of the models will be available for sale afterward... ;)

First up, I found a bunch of Genestealer familiars, both painted and unpainted.



The three painted ones were on a 40mm monster base, but I'm going to put them on 25mm round bases.

10-11-2008, 17:26
This will give you a better idea of their size:



Once they are a bit more finished I'll dig out the lightbox and take some proper photos of them. Apart from some touching up and the red eyes sinking in to the purple skin, these are pretty much finished as far as painting goes.

On the Genestealer theme:


A Genestealer hybrid complete with powersword (power-dagger?) and auto-pistol.

Bonus points for anyone who can identify the yellow blob in the background...

11-11-2008, 07:26
Looks like a capitol imperalis?

11-11-2008, 08:32
Bonus points for BajsArne...

11-11-2008, 10:04
A couple of part-painted Epic models to be finished off - a Hive Tyrant and Magnus the Red.



Plus a Bloodbowl Troll, currently based for use in WFB. This one will probably just get rebased.


17-11-2008, 19:49
Another unit to come - Marauder Dwarf Thunderers.

Most of the unit are in this state:


While one is finished:


Twelve models in the unit, but only four different ones:


So that's skin, leather, hair and bases to go...

17-11-2008, 20:02
Man I've got a few of those marauder dwarves. The one with the hood is one of the best models ever made for WFB IMO. Looking good so far, let me know if you need to acquire more of those dwarves...

17-11-2008, 21:18
I love the one with the sniper sight myself. One of the reasons I started collecting dwarves.

17-11-2008, 22:15
Man I've got a few of those marauder dwarves. The one with the hood is one of the best models ever made for WFB IMO. Looking good so far, let me know if you need to acquire more of those dwarves...
Tempting, but I'm supposed to be reducing my collection... ;)

I love the one with the sniper sight myself. One of the reasons I started collecting dwarves.
Yes, that one's a great model.

I'm also going to be touching up some painted stuff I picked up on eBay, ready for resale. The painting is pretty good, but the bases were appalling!


Rebased Marauder mounted Chaos Warriors:


17-11-2008, 22:22
They'd also come apart in the mail, having such absurdly tiny waists, so some pinning was in order. First I cleaned off most of the old superglue, then filed down the back of the horse slightly (visible in the first shot) so that there was a flat surface to drill into.


Then I drilled through the pelvis and glued some paperclip in so that it was sticking out above and below by about 8mm, drilled matching holes in the horse's back and bottom of the torso, making a really solid joint.


Solid enough that the one that got knocked off the desk stayed in one piece... :cool:

P.S. BajArnes - the Skaven eBay auction that got away:
Four Warp Lightning Cannon, two Screaming Bells and nearly three hundred infantry. :cries:

17-11-2008, 22:39
The basing will be based on my Nurgle Marine bases:


Plus a few more of my own half-painted ones, again heading for eBay when done.

Mortarion, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle

Dark Angel Captain

Generic SM Captain with bionic leg, painted as Mentor Legion

22-11-2008, 19:44
I can't believe I missed this log... many of my favourite old models are here, and well painted to boot :D


Btw, what weapon is the Nurgle Marine in the rear-right holding?

01-12-2008, 10:54
I can't believe I missed this log... many of my favourite old models are here, and well painted to boot

Btw, what weapon is the Nurgle Marine in the rear-right holding?
It's one of the old Chaos Renegade Missile Launchers (http://solegends.com/citcat89/c890223chaosrenheavies-h.htm).

I've based a few figures and done quite a bit to the Marauder Thunderers, more pics to come later this evening - depending on the Warseer servers...

01-12-2008, 11:27
Three classic Chaos Warriors I picked up, rather than stripping these I'll be having a go at giving them a few layers of washes and drybrushing.


Basing preparations. For my textured bases I'm using dark brown paint mixed with some PVA and flock. After a bit of shoving around the base with a paintbrush you get a nice texture ready for drybrushing.


A whole bunch of bases ready for shading, then static grass.


01-12-2008, 12:03
'Plain' texture, first-pass drybrush, second-pass drybrush. Note that the colours in the image are warmer than they are on the models, it's not so orange in real life...


A whole bunch of models textured. The two larger Minotaurs and the four Chaos Warriors were part of a painted auction with bad basing, they just need a little bit of touching up and shields done.


Genestealer familiars plus static grass.


More photos of the Thunderers to come...

01-12-2008, 13:20
While waiting for the bases to dry, I started work on the Dwarves again. On the right is the original finished one, on the left one of the new ones with the leatherwork and rope finished. Not an exact match, but pretty good - and smoother than it looks in the photo!



More details of leather and rope on different models:



01-12-2008, 19:11
The last few posts have gone a bit haywire due to the server clock issues, but here's an update on the Thunderers, I've been working on the skin.

Untouched skin, brown base colour, the original:


The leathery base coat seems particularly appropriate on the guy with the trapper hat.


A couple of new models with finished skin, next to the original.


The skin on the new ones has ended up a bit pasty, so since these photos were taken I've given them a couple of thin glazes of Chestnut ink with a dab of Bestial Brown, which has helped a lot.

P.S. Note that I'm still using the old Coat D'Arms GW paints & inks from 15 years ago, so colour names might not match modern ranges... :eek:

02-12-2008, 16:01
Excellent thread IJW. There are models there I'd forgotten about and loads I wish I still owned (and lots I do!). I really like the textured bases a few threads up - I might try that myself.

The goblin green bases with pale flock reminds me of my old figures :D I guess we all just copied what was in WD ;)

EDIT - I didn't know about Coat D'Arms paints. I still have a load of really old 15+ years paints that are still good today. If I can get more and replace my new GW versions I'll be more than happy. Thanks for that :D

04-12-2008, 11:33
Excellent thread IJW. There are models there I'd forgotten about and loads I wish I still owned (and lots I do!). I really like the textured bases a few threads up - I might try that myself.
:) It works well, although I'm not sure it'll be suitable for the Thunderers.

The goblin green bases with pale flock reminds me of my old figures :D I guess we all just copied what was in WD ;)
Depends. I was always a fan of black base edges, but sometime around the start of the 'red' period the UK GW stores were given really draconian guidelines on what player armies were allowed to be used in-store - from memory, you could only use models that were available on the shelves (not even older models from Mail Order), everything had to be painted to at least three colours, and base edges had to be not just green, but Goblin Green.

Note that this wasn't shop armies, these were the guidelines for what customers were allowed to use in shop!

EDIT - I didn't know about Coat D'Arms paints. I still have a load of really old 15+ years paints that are still good today. If I can get more and replace my new GW versions I'll be more than happy. Thanks for that
I've not ordered any, but hopefully they are still the same mix as they used to be - there's a few colours I'm running low on, and all the lids on the more frequently used pots are starting to crack up. :(

04-12-2008, 11:46
I've got pots with cracks in and they still don't dry out!

04-12-2008, 12:26
Yeah, but they are getting hard to open safely... ;)

04-12-2008, 19:05
Just read through this and there's some great stuff here :) It's good to see some older stuff.

And the yellow thing... Seems to be some kind of tank, but I'm not sure :confused:

04-12-2008, 20:59
And the yellow thing... Seems to be some kind of tank, but I'm not sure
Yep, about as big as tanks go in 40k. BajArne got it right earlier, it's an Epic Capitol Imperialis - a troop transport so big that in the game it could carry six Baneblades. Not that the model was large enough to physically do that...


Plus some photos of 40k scale ones that people have made:

Right, Thunderers as they are now.





Basically, there's just beards/hair and bases to go, yippee!

05-12-2008, 10:43
The dwarfs are some of the most characterful models I've seen, pity there's only 4 different models. Looking forward to seeing them finished. :)

Yep, about as big as tanks go in 40k. BajArne got it right earlier, it's an Epic Capitol Imperialis - a troop transport so big that in the game it could carry six Baneblades. Not that the model was large enough to physically do that...

Woah, never seen a 40k scale one. Is it still part of the fluff?

Btw, I've just noticed how the poses of the Dark Angel Captain and one of the Chaos Warriors (with 2-handed axe and shield!) are almost identical. Both were some of my favourite models back when I was a kid.

05-12-2008, 14:38
Someone on bell of lost souls built a 40k capitol imperalis not too long ago.

06-12-2008, 18:48
The dwarfs are some of the most characterful models I've seen, pity there's only 4 different models. Looking forward to seeing them finished. :)
They added some more variations later on, but after I'd bought these...

Woah, never seen a 40k scale one. Is it still part of the fluff?
Sort of. NetEpic definitely includes them, I'm not sure about GW.

Btw, I've just noticed how the poses of the Dark Angel Captain and one of the Chaos Warriors (with 2-handed axe and shield!) are almost identical. Both were some of my favourite models back when I was a kid.
Same concept designer (Jes Goodwin), same sculptor (Jes Goodwin). ;)

Someone on bell of lost souls built a 40k capitol imperalis not too long ago.
Linked in my last post.

06-12-2008, 20:13
Those are some nicely painted dwarfs! I'm relatively new to the hobby, so I haven't seen these old models before. Nice to see what the range looked like a few years back. :)

Hope to see more of your work!

15-12-2008, 17:37
Time for me to get a move on - for seven day auctions ending on Boxing Day, I need to get the auctions up on Friday evening...

A bunch more 'pre-paints' getting some basing. This time, it's some RTB01 plastic Marines in assorted different Chapter colours.


The Marauder Chaos Knights, getting ready for base texture, by covering the open slots with thin card.



Plus I've started on the Chaos Warriors that we saw earlier. here they are untouched.


15-12-2008, 17:47
The first step was a thick black wash with quite a bit of chestnut ink mixed in for richness of colour and a bit of a rusty feel. Already a vast improvement on the untouched models on either side.


All three washed, but there was more chestnut ink added for the second and third model, giving a lovely coppery/goldy look.


Then with a little bit of drybrushing and highlighting with brazen bronze, and mithril silver on the rivets. Boltgun then mithril on the chainmail.



The first one to be washed has had more brazen bronze added to match the colours of the other two, and will probably need another wash.

15-12-2008, 18:36
Basically, there's just beards/hair and bases to go, yippee!

Dwarf with a pipe is my favourite GW model ever, love the little guy

Great job painting him :D

15-12-2008, 19:26
what a joy looking through this blog. I still have many of the minis shown and remember most of the others.

I'm currently repainting a unit of the old metal chaos champions for my unit of chosen.

15-12-2008, 20:07
Dwarf with a pipe is my favourite GW model ever, love the little guy
Yep, it's a classic.

what a joy looking through this blog. I still have many of the minis shown and remember most of the others.

I'm currently repainting a unit of the old metal chaos champions for my unit of chosen.
The way these Chaos Warriors are coming along I'd be tempted to keep them, if it wasn't that my eBay store is helping make ends meet at the moment...

Shields are started, I dug out a couple of moonface ones. In the first photo, the green and blue one was already painted.



Now the white undercoated one has green on, and I added a wash of the same green to the existing one to match them better.


Both shields will get bronze-n-wash rims, and a star or two in the blue areas.

18-12-2008, 10:44
A whole bunch of stuff textured and ready for drybrushing and static grass.


Look carefully and you can find an Adeptus Sororitas...

Elazar The Glorified
18-12-2008, 12:42
Love this thread for the nostalgia. Quite a lot of classic models in here. I really love all the old chaos models. I think like you say they've managed to stand the test of time in a very unique way. Keep up the good work.

18-12-2008, 15:02
Love this thread for the nostalgia. Quite a lot of classic models in here. I really love all the old chaos models. I think like you say they've managed to stand the test of time in a very unique way. Keep up the good work.
While painting up those three old Chaos Warriors I got a dangerous urge to try and get enough more of them to do a whole unit...

The Thunderers are now done, apart from highlighting the hair, and doing the bases.



The Chaos Warriors are now done apart from static grass on the bases.


18-12-2008, 15:12
Now the shields:



This unit of five Bloodletters were from the same painted lot from eBay that had the Marauder Chaos Warrior knights - with redone bases, plus the swords were badly chipped black with grey drybrushing, I'm thinking about dark green with yellow/green highlighting to make a good contrast with the red.


18-12-2008, 16:22
Now the Fellblades are done, plus a couple of paint chips in other places touched in.


Time to get back to the Thunderers...

EDIT - Wooo! 200 posts.

Elazar The Glorified
18-12-2008, 16:41
Yes, I'm looking at them and thinking they'd be a very characterful unit amongst an army of the current range of minis. Maybe even Chosen. I'd definitely consider using them as attendents to a Warshrine or something!

18-12-2008, 17:39
Well, those three will be going up on eBay tomorrow night, if you fancy some Warshrine guards...

18-12-2008, 17:45
Three stages of hair, left-to-right.

Grey base colour.
1st highlight - grey and white, with a little bit of brown added in.
2nd highlight - as above but even more white.


Three stages of hat fur, right-to-left.
Black undercoat.
Rather uneven covering of Snakebite Leather.
A couple of wetbrushed highlights of Snakebite mixed with differing amounts of white.


Oh crap. I just spotted two lots of unpainted boots in those photos. :eyebrows:

19-12-2008, 12:31
Some sneak peeks of the finished models.





21-12-2008, 11:09
The auctions are all up, ending on Boxing Day evening (UK time). See my sig for the link.

Here are the final versions of the Chaos Warriors, all three of these auctions have been bid on already. :)

The first guy got another thin wash/glaze to brighten up the armour. The green leather on all three was a Jungle Green base coat, then 2-3 thin coats of Snot Green for highlighting. I'm particularly happy with how the shields came out.

http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/warseer/CH2_Chaos_Warrior_Grim_Wrench_Lord_1987_well_paint ed_1.jpg


http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/warseer/CH3_Chaos_Warrior_Khane_the_Mighty_1987_well_paint ed_1.jpg

21-12-2008, 11:15
The Marauder Dwarf Thunderers also came out well, especially once they were under proper lighting.

In the first photo, the back rank are on top of some regiment bases so that they are more visible.

http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/warseer/Marauder_MM16_Dwarf_Thunderers_x_12_1990_well_pain ted_2.jpg

http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/warseer/Marauder_MM16_Dwarf_Thunderers_x_12_1990_well_pain ted_10.jpg

http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/warseer/Marauder_MM16_Dwarf_Thunderers_x_12_1990_well_pain ted_12.jpg

http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/warseer/Marauder_MM16_Dwarf_Thunderers_x_12_1990_well_pain ted_13.jpg

Getifa Ubazza
22-12-2008, 12:02
OMG, I cant believe how many of those i remember. What a trip down memory lane.

HF Moloch
06-01-2009, 07:58
Dang !
That Grenadier robot spider is aweseome.

I have searched high and low on the web for a source, but not luck.....

That being said I do have the Krymek Swarmaster.

Thanks for bringing back fond memories !

17-01-2010, 18:33
I just read through the entire thread and am very impressed with your skills IJW and really like your old models. Keep up the good work mate!

(Gogo gadget threadomancy)

25-01-2010, 21:56
sh*ts tight bro...i really enjoy the lil diorama..the face of the skeleton is priceless for some reason lol

16-11-2010, 23:42
Threadomancy but it's worth it for such an excellent thread.

Thanks for the blast from the past!

I have to say I never realised until now how much the old GW miniatures looked like some of the artwork in the D&D 2nd edition books.

Very nice!

17-11-2010, 11:04
Ta everyone! I think the bulk of the more interesting painted stuff is in the thread already...

04-05-2011, 19:38
Absolutly AWESOME work!
it's really nice to see another gamer that loves older models. I've been playing since the early eightys and have many of the figs you have shown. good times. you should see the looks i get from the youngsters when i put out a regiment of Maurader Dwarf Spearmen. By the way what kind of camera did you use? The crisp details are great.

05-05-2011, 17:17
Ta muchly!

Most of the photos were taken with a Canon Powershot G3 which is by now 7-8 generations behind... ;)