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Lordi
05-04-2007, 19:23
I have a problem with painting a Space Marine Apothecary.

Ist their armour supposed to be all white ( like all blue with Librarians and all black Chaplains ) with only the shoulder pad showing which chapter he belongs to or do they have all the chapter colours with a white helmet?

thanks

Red_Lep
05-04-2007, 19:25
From what I've seen alot of people do it like the Libbies and Chaps.

Thommy H
05-04-2007, 19:26
Can be either. I think C:SM (and I know C: DA) includes examples of both. Choose whichever you like the look of.

fwacho
05-04-2007, 19:28
REally depends... The key thing is that White is in the color scheme. If you have a really cool color schemes you may just want to make the helmet white. I you have a large amount of white already inyour shcem then youmay antto paint eh whole armor white. just make it so you can tell a glace that's he's your apothocary. (other wise you might forget to use him)

Lordi
05-04-2007, 19:36
Well I think it's gonna be Ultramarines, so diffinately a wholw white then!

Marius Xerxes
05-04-2007, 19:39
Personally i dont like painting anything differantly from the main color scheme of my army. For Blood Angels i would include white on the model, but i personally leave him mostly red as the rest of the army. Really it all comes down to what you think looks good on your figs. If your happy with how it turns out, then thats all that matters in the end.

I do however still paint my chappy's black.. generally my only HQ choice in that army.. so its nice to stand out a lil with his unit of crack troops. :evilgrin:

Leftenant Gashrog
05-04-2007, 20:29
i'm firmly in the 'a bit of white somewhere' camp, the original medics article in WD back in the days of RT had a colour plate showing Astartes and IG Medics, complete with generic "regulation battle dress" example which was almost entirely why.. yet NONE of the chapter specific examples followed it! (Dark Angels had only a white torso, Iron Hands had a single white arm and shoulderpad.. Silver Skulls had white shoulderpads with a red trim)

Onisuzume
05-04-2007, 22:12
Imo; just having the right shoulder pad White (or blue/black in case of libby/chappy) is enough for me; as long as it has the prime helix. (or book/skull in case of libby/chappy)

That way they blend in a bit more with the rest of the army. (a white armoured marine among 50 black armoured marines looks just out of place)

Crassus
05-04-2007, 22:29
IMO chaplains and techmarines are the only ones who deserve special paint jobs only because it suits them and they don't look out of place. the blue or white of librarians and apothecaries make them seem out of place and not fit in with the army unless it is one of those colours already so i keep 'em to my chapter colours.

hope that has helped;)

BloodiedSword
05-04-2007, 22:31
I don't honestly care either way though personally I paint my Apothecary white, Techmarine red and Chaplain black, with one shoulder pad having the caduceus/AM icon/skull and the other with chapter markings.

What I really don't like is when people paint their Chaplain black and the Apoth/Techmarine in chapter colours. Just a pet peeve of mine - I don't like inconsistency..

Crassus
05-04-2007, 22:49
What I really don't like is when people paint their Chaplain black and the Apoth/Techmarine in chapter colours. Just a pet peeve of mine - I don't like inconsistency..

i know what you mean, but for me apoth and librarians can be chapter colours but chaplains and techmarines have to be proper colours(my pet peeve) but i do have to admit i painted my librarian with force axe in black and he looks really cool :cool:

Killgore
05-04-2007, 23:01
my Soul Drinkers Apothecary is all white apart from both shoulder pads and medical arm which is coloured purple (the colour of the chapter)


its got anouth white on it to show that its a apothecary whilst having anouth of the chapter colours on to fit in with the rest of the force

keatsmeister
05-04-2007, 23:15
Pretty much an academic question for my White Scars ;)

Still, there is no one way for Apothecaries to paint their armour. Personally, I go with the all white approach whereby regardless of chapter schemes, the Apothecary is all white. I do this for the very simple reason that I don't really pay much attention to what minis are what until I start removing casualties (yes, I know I should...), so any Marines with special skills I try to mark out clearly what they are, whether Librarian/Stormseer, Chaplain, Apothecary, Techmarine or Veteran. It makes it a little easier on me. Conversely, I try to keep a set of scouts with camo gear for all terrain types, as when positioned correctly, I have managed to have opponents completely miss the fact that they are there!

Elizas Guardianangel
05-04-2007, 23:51
I believe that the model should be painted the way it's shown on the GW website. I play Ultramarines so the most current apothecary has blue body armor and a while helm (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/catalog/spacemarines/sm_commandsquad_box.htm) , but so do the sergeants! (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/catalog/spacemarines/sm_veterans.htm)

GW used to have a white apothecary on is ultramarine mini page, but it was eventually removed.

So, what's my final word? How am I going to paint my apothecary? I'm still not 100% sure but I don't think that a white helm and kneepad is enough to set him apart. I'm also afraid that if I paint him all white he's going to look like a star wars storm trooper. For now, I'm leaning toward the all white paint job. I'm painting my chaplains black, my librarians are going to be blue, my regular techmarine is going to be red, and my techmarine w/ a servo harness is going to be blue w/ a red helmet. (Ya he may have the armor paint scheme as a vet sergeant, but I'm sure the servo harness will set him apart, plus it's the scheme that GW has up ATM.)

wickedvoodoo
06-04-2007, 05:46
If you are attempting to emulate the look GW has set for the Ultras then as you say do it the same as they have painted theirs in the 4th ed Ultra army. Just remember that at the end of the day it is your model and how you think it looks best IS how it looks best.

For the record, the Ultras were my first army and i did the Apoc's with just a white helmet and shoulder pad, i did the techie with a red helmet and pad and the librarian with a blue hood and pad that was quite a bit paler than his armour. Didnt have a chaplain so didn't have to worry about him.

theshadowduke
06-04-2007, 06:56
The only marines in my army that done carry the chapter hearldry as theirs are the chaplains and techmarines, apothecaries are like the 'evy metal ones, and my chappy is very similiar.

Gaebriel
06-04-2007, 10:01
Well, as been stated, 'old school' (2nd Edition Codex) would be all white with a left chapter shoulder pad. 'New school' would be chapter colours with a white helmet.

I pulled both together to : "Chapter colours with an individual amount of white (whichever looks good)" - this goes for all specialist colours (Chaplain and Techmarine).

Ultramarines have the additional complicacy of white/red/red-white helemts to denote various ranks, so I go with a lot more white than just the helmet.

Lyinar
06-04-2007, 14:40
Well, with my Black Templars, my Apothecary, Chaplain, and Techmarine crew of my vehicles are all in Chapter Colours with specialty specific trim. If the Chaplain's still in his specialization colour, it's not my fault. :p

Of course, coming from an RPG background, and seeing all of the multiple VALID variations, I'd say the choice is up to what that particular character wants.

My Black Templars Apothecary has black armour, with white for the Apothecary shoulderpad, backpack, helmet, kneepads, and "medical fist". My Deathwing Apothecary has a white helmet, right kneepad, and "medical power fist". My Dark Angels 5th Company Apothecary is likely going to have white robes (instead of off-white), white helmet, white Apothecary shoulderpad, and white "medical fist".

My best friend's Ultramarines Apothecary is one of the guys who believe in wearing white armour with chapter-specific trim.

Of course, it gets a bit murkier when it comes to Chaplains and Librarians, as there are no alternative colour schemes presented for them, so it's possible that they do all wear black or blue with chapter-specific trim. And since Chaplains are meant to be menacing and stuff with their skull-helmets, I'd say they should wear black armour.

Thommy H
06-04-2007, 15:01
Of course, it gets a bit murkier when it comes to Chaplains and Librarians, as there are no alternative colour schemes presented for them

Actually, C:SM shows a Chaplain in Ultramarine's colours with just black trim. It looks crap though - stick to the all-black for Chaplains, I'd say.

Merceus
06-04-2007, 15:02
My APothecary just uses my armies colour scheme on reverse... the main army is all black with bone helmets and weapons... therefore it suits that the Apothecary can be all bone with black helmet and weapons... It doesn't have to be white, just a really light colour... but its your army so it doesn't even have to be light... go for what you think looks right and suits your army...

Thommy H
06-04-2007, 15:14
For what it's worth, actually, my Deathwing Apothecary hardly has any white on him at all - only his weird cutting tool (made from Fabius Bile bits - it's to cut through Terminator Armour to retrieve the perogenoid glands, of course) on his back and his syringe on his arm (more Fabius Bile bits...I had a spare going...), the rest is normal Deathwing bone colour. I would have repainted his helmet or greaves or something, but I hadn't painted Deathwing in years and I was just really pleased with how the bone came out since my painting has improved. Never mind.