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CryoMax
16-04-2007, 02:21
I've been collecting crap--er, 40k stuff ;) for decades at this point. I still have about two boxes of unbuilt 40k 'beaky marines' from the original plastics...

Anyways, I finally managed to actually assemble and paint 1000 points of Imperial Guard; I actually have another Chimera to paint up, but what I have painted fits neatly in 1000 points, so I kinda put off the Chimera. I just did up 500 points of Necrons (Lord + 2 squads of 10 Warriors), which went very easily. But I'm thinking maybe instead of getting the Necrons up to 1000 points, I should do up 500 point armies from my other collections; like Eldar, marines, or Tyranids.

Anyways, I got to thinking... Do other people buy/build/paint in "blocks"? I've been thinking about things in 500-point blocks, but I don't actually get to play all that often, so I don't really know if that's even a common point level; I've seen a lot of people talk about 750 points. I'd kinda done 500 because it was so easy: 500, then 1000, then 1500, then 2000... Of course, I've noticed lately the tourney circuit seems to be doing 1750...

So... Do you build up your army(ies) in blocks? What sizes do you aim for? If you collect more than one army, how often do you switch between them when you're painting?

...Paul

RavenMorpheus
16-04-2007, 02:30
I've been collecting crap--er, 40k stuff ;) for decades at this point. I still have about two boxes of unbuilt 40k 'beaky marines' from the original plastics...

Anyways, I finally managed to actually assemble and paint 1000 points of Imperial Guard; I actually have another Chimera to paint up, but what I have painted fits neatly in 1000 points, so I kinda put off the Chimera. I just did up 500 points of Necrons (Lord + 2 squads of 10 Warriors), which went very easily. But I'm thinking maybe instead of getting the Necrons up to 1000 points, I should do up 500 point armies from my other collections; like Eldar, marines, or Tyranids.

Anyways, I got to thinking... Do other people buy/build/paint in "blocks"? I've been thinking about things in 500-point blocks, but I don't actually get to play all that often, so I don't really know if that's even a common point level; I've seen a lot of people talk about 750 points. I'd kinda done 500 because it was so easy: 500, then 1000, then 1500, then 2000... Of course, I've noticed lately the tourney circuit seems to be doing 1750...

So... Do you build up your army(ies) in blocks? What sizes do you aim for? If you collect more than one army, how often do you switch between them when you're painting?

...Paul

I usually build my army squad by squad but given that I am building a CSM army at the moment a single squad can easy eat up 200-300 points depending on what type it is.

Feor
16-04-2007, 04:03
I design my armies in Modular blocks, trying to fit my mandatory choices into the first 500 points and then building in 500 point blocks from there.

Unfortunatly, when I'm actually building it that kinda goes to pieces as I want to build the cool stuff right away, but still gives me some good versatility in terms of how many points I field and what I field.

Dr.Clock
16-04-2007, 04:09
My first army was absolutely built in 'blocks'. I went unit by unit, painting up a unit, playing games with what I had and then buying units I felt would work with the army I had. I reached my first 2000 points (2nd ed.) in this way.

When I switched from Eldar to Space Marines three years ago, I bought a megaforce and refused to use them until they were painted. Again, I added units I thought would go with the theme I wanted to go for (mechanized close-range Sallies). I have built the army up to 2500 points (4th ed.) with plans for another megaforce to really kick it over the edge.

As we speak, I am in the process of painting an army that I collected in its entirety (a full FOC) before any one unit was fully painted; over 3000 points. Painting it is a real challenge (100 infantry and jump-infantry models and ten bikes... no tanks or vehicles of any kind) but totally rewarding as you see the force taking shape.

I guess I would say it depends on the type of force you want. If you have a basic idea of what you want a force to look like, having a goal is definitely a good idea. Then, you can either pick a starting point and 'reward' your completion of the first list with the purchase of another unit that gets you closer to your goal. If not, keep gaming and get a feel for your natural style of play.

Going the whole hog and collecting a force in its entirety is not for the faint of heart. It requires dedication (perhaps more than I've got) to get it all painted. However the payoff, deferred as it is by the long slog of painting and modelling, is greatly amplified. Also, you don't slow down as easily as you can easily move from unit to unit as you get the force going. The farther along you get, and the closer the goal, the more exciting the force becomes to you and the better you feel about it. Being able to track your progress so directly over a large force is great.

Point values are pretty arbitrary in most informal gaming environments. Aiming for the tournament standard is a good idea, though, as most players are most comfortable, and I think the lists are more interesting, at 1750 points and above. Until you reach this point, however, just going unit by unit is entirely acceptable. You should have no problem finding pick-up games of 500+ points.

Cheers,

And Happy Painting,

The Good Doctor.

SwordsofChaos
16-04-2007, 07:25
The Chaos army Iīm building right now is getting pieced toghether in 500 pts blocks and it seems to be working like a charm.

Lancaster
16-04-2007, 08:24
I get only Necron stuff... I just build, paint, base and add to my collection with no direction or purpose

All my friends are like that... (with their respective armies of course)

dugaal
16-04-2007, 08:36
Well if your the type who puts off painting by cramming together lists and such (army builder is key) like myself then in a way yes, but in a more accurate way, no :)
Its easy enough with AB to just have a core list saved, then given the game size, very quickly calculate additions. At the same time that ease makes it alluring to mix up your basics, espesially with Chaos HQ's which can be incredibly variable, often with the same mini.
some armies just dont fit well into 500pts (IG), while talking of 1000pts, well thats an army unto itself.

Though with AB; for quickness you can save individual units, so rounding them to 50's can quickly allow one to load it piecemeal.

Sounds like if it can work for you, and keeps you focused on painting it, then go for it!

Bunnahabhain
16-04-2007, 10:16
My guardsmen tend to get built etc a platoon at a time.

It just varies if platoon is the full 55 men, plus chimeras etc, or a mere 20 or so specialist troops, eg Rough riders. Due to Guard points values, that 200-500pts in a go.

Bloodknight
16-04-2007, 10:36
I buy a giant horde of minis and then I need 10 years to paint them. At least thatīs what happened to my Guard ;)

Darnok
16-04-2007, 11:33
I buy a giant horde of minis and then I need 10 years to paint them. At least thatīs what happened to my Guard ;)

Happened with my Orks from the beginning. That was nearly ten years ago, and somehow I have a playable painted force by now... even if there are still 2000ish points of models to do. :D

xibo
16-04-2007, 11:42
I assemble guardsmen in 5s or 10s ( either sprue or squadwise, depends on how i'm feeling ), and always paint 3 at a time, because that's the number of models I can paint skin/highlight details/... on without my colour drying on the plate.

hivetyrant333
16-04-2007, 12:03
I buy a giant horde of minis and then I need 10 years to paint them. At least thatīs what happened to my Guard ;)

Same with me, e.g. my TK-buying topic you posted in! :p



EDIT: Just realised this is not the Fantasy forum. :rolleyes:

Same applies with my Tau and Tyranids though!

fenrisbrit
16-04-2007, 12:44
I start with troops as without them any army is nothing and they always form the bulk of the numbers. I find it mind numbing to paint the same fig over and over so I have to get tough with myself and not get distracted on to other stuff until they are all done. After that I follow my nose as I play trial games and see what is missing.

kaimarion
16-04-2007, 12:51
I never liked the idea of blocks always seemed too constrictive for my liking

Getifa Ubazza
16-04-2007, 13:35
Im really good at doing my 1 HQ and 2 TROOPS and usually get them done really quickly. I just dont seem to be able to motivate myself to keep going with the army after that. Im thinking of buying 1 squad/tank for each army, painting it before moving on to the next squad/tank.

Captain Micha
16-04-2007, 13:41
I try to do it a battle force worth at a time.

My necrons have violated this however. I did them, warriors, scarabs... (left unpainted for toooo long.. finally paint them) second box warriors,scarabs, hq, monolith and ts. the last 500 pts so far I'm just ugh... I should have bought the battleforce.... because I realise now how worthless wraith are...

well maybe worthless is too strong a word... more like point over costed..... by about 15 pts a pop

fracas
16-04-2007, 13:44
i build a 2k army all at once

Mr_Smiley
16-04-2007, 14:04
I build in squads, one complete squad at a time.

Inquisitor_Pink
16-04-2007, 14:12
I buy in bulk, then will spend ten hours sat in a chair assembling and painting a few times a month. Would rather get as much done in a day and be high as the sun on glue fumes than do a bit here and there.

victorpofa
16-04-2007, 15:21
I am building my armies in blocks. I bought several armies in a short period of time, and am finally getting to the point where I have a playable force for one of them. I figured that I could keep from getting discouraged with all the models I foolishly bought by only assembling a squad or tank/walker at a time and painting it while building the next unit. This has mostly worked for me, but I paint slowly so I have had to slow down on building to keep from having too many minis ready to paint.

I need to prime and paint my second troop choice and i will have a 1500 point force. I have been doing it a squad at a time with independant characters thrown in with the troops. My tank and Devastators (bought well before the new plastics were released) were bought already painted off ebay and they were done well enough that I will likely just touch them up a little. Add in the Dread I just repainted (ebay again) and I have a playable force. If the weather ever clears enough to prime that squad of marines :mad:

etham
16-04-2007, 15:45
In my current unfinished projects I have about 5000 points of Dark Angels and about 3000 points of eldar in various stages from clipped off the sprue to partially assembled. None of it is past the primed stage. I don't think I have a single figure with the arms attached.

I have a theory that I should paint everything in an assembly line process. The problem with that theory is that I keep buying stuff.

Budro
16-04-2007, 19:24
Typically I do a squad, a tank, or a vehicle squadron at a time and alternate what I do (so a unit of FW, then a HH, then FW, then pirahnas, then crisis, then FW, wash rinse repeat). It helps to keep it interesting by changing up the size of the model I'm working on and the techinques I'm using. If I just do infantry unit after infantry unit I get burned out too easily and stop painting for a while. Which is why it took me around 5 years to paint 4K worth of orks.

Macrus
19-04-2007, 15:58
I dont paint them in blocks, i just paint them when i want too or when i get them. I will use them if they fit into my army, and if they dont i will make the point larger.

Macrus