View Full Version : Return to Epic

08-07-2007, 10:21
after an absense of ohhh...far too long.

I started playing back with Space Marine and Adeptus Titanicus (god I feel old...:cries:) and have always had a soft spot for the tiny little guys. I'm kinda upset I sold my 13000 points of orks, all unpainted form an early edition...

Anyway, I'm sure, that in the traditional GW way of things, things have changed considerably, so a couple of simple questions if I may, to try and get me back on track.

I notice the downloadable rule book in the Specialist Games site. I prefer my rules to be printed - is the printed rulebook that's available up to date, would I need to print off a few updates, or should I really just bite the bullet and download the whole thing?

Points values - I've read lots of posts about armies of different sizes. What is considered to be a 'normal' army size nowadays. (eg WFB is 2000, 40K is 1500).

What's with the long thin bases? all mine were on square ones... does it make any difference.

Are squats still around?

Think that's it for now - thanks in advance folks :D

08-07-2007, 10:38
The rulebook is nearly up to date. There is rules review process going (for a year now) that has update the skimmer rules. Otherwise there the rulebook holds. There is a set of experimental rules which of course isn't in the book, but in the forum and experimental rules section of the SG site.

Regular game is 2.7k or 3k. Lists are balanced to work in 2k - 5k settings of the tournament scenario.

Bases size is rather free. There are a set of rules in the book which have to be satisfied on the basing. But both the new and old bases are usable.

Squats are no longer officially around. There are fanbased lists for them. My homepage has Demiurg list (not done by me just to point out) which probably is best balanced of them.

08-07-2007, 18:36
The printed rulebook is the same as the basic PDFs (and is very pretty - full colour throughout). An erratum is also available on the site. There are also a number of "experimental" rules which are pretty much official, as well as the Swordwind supplement for Eldar.

Long bases were introduced in 3rd edition - I think it was to make individual minis easier to paint, though I have stuck with the old square ones.

Normal size is 2700 - 3000 points for a standard game.

Squats are not in the official canon any more, but fan-generated army lists (along with every permutation of 40k armies) are on www.tacticalwargames.net

And a much more streamlined (in a good way) game than Adeptus Titanicus, although titans are less prominant.

12-07-2007, 19:19
I have both rule books and the downloadable is just fine
Both bases are legit in this version I feel if you were a big fan of the 2nd ed you will find this too simplified. If like me you found ed 2 too much ed 3 too little then this will be just right

18-07-2007, 16:05
Of course there's always NetEpic...

18-07-2007, 17:53
Just managed to get a copy of Swordwind off eBay from the states for 14 (one sold for 36 form the UK a day later :eek:)

Just looking for the main rule book now...I sense a trade thread in the offing...:D

Dwarf Supreme
19-07-2007, 16:49
You should still be able to get the main rulebook directly from SG.

20-07-2007, 10:10
i saw it at ebay for 5 pounds

os its better t olook there first