View Full Version : [WIP] Dragon sculpt project *update*

11-07-2007, 19:30
Here's my current project!

I'm sculpting my very own dragon, from special clay and greenstuff, layer for layer. This is the upperhead, no other idea of how to name it :P

Example head:

First three layers: Clay, greenstuff, clay:

Put them together and you get:

And of course the (for now) last picture, the dragon with a part of the last layer of greenstuff (not finished yet!):

11-07-2007, 19:47
Hi my love :)

As I already said, great work for a 3rd sculpt!

11-07-2007, 19:52
Thank you dear,
Still being ambitious am I? ;)

11-07-2007, 20:02
quite, milady...quite a lot as a matter of fact, but I wish you all the luck and skill in your purveying of sculpted miniatures! You might as well show your squig and lady!

11-07-2007, 20:05
Great start. This looks like one to watch.

Have you sculpted much stuff before?

11-07-2007, 20:20
Great start. This looks like one to watch.

Have you sculpted much stuff before?

She has been painting for 6-7 months now, and has about the same standard as me, (see the warmaster and reviving old days topic by me)

And only sculpted a squig and a little female model before.


11-07-2007, 21:26
Does she make good pie? :D

Literally her third sculpt!
That will make this even more interesting.

Yes do show us your first two sculpts.

12-07-2007, 06:32
Alright, here they are :)

My first sculpt was this Babysquig :) The painting is nog done yet, still need very much highlights, but haven't been paying attention to it since more ideas popped into my head and I was busyer sculpting then painting.

My next try was this lady model. Sine a few weeks she has a red dress, but she ísn't finished yet. Sorry for the quality of these pictures, but my cam was having a very hard day being broken and all ;)

And yes, I can make pie, though if it's good depends on how well I read the recipe ;)

12-07-2007, 08:59
Hey Dageraad,

Its all very cool! Especially the giant squig and the little female model.
And the dragon's head is also looking quite 'fab' already..
It is hard to believe that those are you first three sculpts.. :o

I'll be around to check the dragon when it's finished! :p

12-07-2007, 09:42
I should keep an eye on this thread. :)

12-07-2007, 13:06
Here's an update!

The jaw has been finished. Though it looks kinda big now, 75% of it will not be seen once joined with the head.


And here's his almost finished head. More sharp points added, and bless him, his first teeth! :D
Also his eyes are finished, though I might still change something.


12-07-2007, 13:21
Looks awesome, willl look forward to see more as it progresses.

13-07-2007, 01:19
oh boy, she's going to pull a pox on us!

13-07-2007, 02:20
this is comin' along sweet!! (even if it is just the head.) :D
i'm currently making my own winged nightmare/zombie dragon thingy, and if the head turns out anything like yours i'll be very pleased with myself.

anyways, good luck, and keep up the great work.

13-07-2007, 11:26
Will you show the dragon? :)

Here's the head with jaw added, still looks big, still isn't finished and will look different when body is added ;)


13-07-2007, 12:32
yeah, sure i'll post it.... it's mainly armature at the moment though. :p

here ya go:

have you started the body yet?

13-07-2007, 15:56
great work so far! I really like how it is going. I copied your photo and made a few changes on photoshop. Mostly filling away at a few parts and adding some pointy areas. Hope this helps!

Some Muppet
13-07-2007, 21:05
oh boy, she's going to pull a pox on us!

lol, thats funny cause it looks like its gonna be true, look at the size of that armature, its huge!

14-07-2007, 12:20
@Beefpizza:I like the idea of the head having some more pointy parts. I still wasn't finished with it, and thought about where to place them, but this picture-redo really helps. I don't know If the chin will become pointy like that, but I can say it still isn't finished, so who knows ;)

@Some Muppet: I like the body, looks great! Have you tried sculpting scales yet? If not, I know a trick that might help.
I have started on the body, but am thinking about totally crushing it and starting over again when I have the wings. I have tried sculpting wings, have also concluded I can's, so the only thing not sculpted on the dragon will be the wings. Ordered plastic ones from GW and going to convert them unrecognisable. :D


Yesterday, I have actually decided on what kind of dragon it will be.
A forest one, since I plan to make it very old, with mushrooms and leaves attachted to it's skin, together with little plants growing.

Added yesterday: A mushroom, a nose-ring and a ring around the middle horn on his head, like there will be one on another one as well. Ring around horn includes stones in them.
I haven't got a picture yet since I'm not at home currently, but picture will be added a.s.a.p. (meaning monday most likely, though perhaps tomorrow I might have some time)

14-07-2007, 14:27
i would be more than happy to hear any tips/tricks you might have up your sleeve, especially anything to do with sculptin' scales. :p
i'm a lil' stumped. I was thinkin' of sculpting them all individually! But, that might just drive me insane :evilgrin:

15-07-2007, 11:31
As advice, check out Pox's fully sculpted dragon thread here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55918) for his tips on making the various parts, and to see how he's done.

15-07-2007, 18:14
Thank you, and yes, know that thread :)

Here's some new stuff. I have changed the snout, added some detail witch is (due to camera-trouble) not quite visible... Better pictures to follow up soon!

For the quick to fill up room scales:
Take a bit of the plastic the greenstuff is in and take a bit of greenstuff.
Flatten it really really well and take a what's-it-called (used to pick between your teeth, teethpicker?) press the point in the greenstuff and again and again, making your very own pattern. By using a round pointy thingy (the teethpicker-thing) the effect of the scales look quite well. For the bigger, real scales though.. haven't tried them yet but have got some ideas on how to make those. Will tell you when I found a good way to make thoase as well.

Here's the dragon's head with detail marker, done in paintshop:

The updates are in orde of appearence:
- Small fill-up scales in the make, together with a nosering for the dragon.

- The dragon's head with my new idea for the chin and neck. It's supposed to be combe like, like lizards and such have? Only hanging under his chin.
- The body-set-up
- The tail-set-up

16-07-2007, 03:26
Thanks for the tip.. it seems easy enough, i'll have to give it a try :D (also i think the word you were lookin' for was "toothpick" ;) but i'm sure everyone knew what you were talking about)

i like the idea with the frilly neck, very creative

lookin' forward to seeing more.

16-07-2007, 06:54
You are cracking on and its looking very good.

I like the neck flap/fringe type thing aswell. Takes it away from the GW dragons a bit and makes it more unique. (and a bit more realistic thast the very clean and cartoony look they have).

I was also impressed with the little girl.

I am interested in your artistic background. Do you do other art or sculpture?

16-07-2007, 09:08
No artistic background or what so ever.
I draw a little sometimes, paint a little, not really good or anything according to myself.

I'll update a photo of my last painting. It isn't finished yet, but ok.It's my third try with oil based paint. And yes, I'm quite busy trying things out lately ;)

Though I did like clay very much when I was little... Don't know if that is any good?

No update today I'm afraid. I really need the wings now, but I have to wait till this weekend :cries:

16-07-2007, 09:14
Well if your third Sculpt is near as good as your third painting is shaping up to be we are in for a treat.

I wish I was not really that good at the things I try.

I bet you make good pie aswell. :D

16-07-2007, 10:18
Ohw, that's making me blush! Thank you :)

And pie, ah well.. could try it... :D

17-07-2007, 19:18

Due to a lot of asking kindly, I was allowed to have Woudschim's old orc wyvern-wings. Meaning exactly what? Well, not having to wait till bloody sunday 'till I can continue the dragon, meaning as well: Update!

Here's the new (yes, killed the previous) body, with a sketch that Woudschim made as example of how he tought the dragon would be quite dynamic. I agree. :)

In order of App again:
- Sketch
- Dragon wire + first stuff
- Dragon body
- Dragon body with wings

Yet to come: Of course arms, legs, scales, details!

Hideous Loon
17-07-2007, 20:12
D'you want a tip? Don't use the GW wings, they have been used to death on Dragons, Wyverns, Hive Tyrants and other assorted creatures. Make your own. You are clearly good enough, and the result will look so much better.

17-07-2007, 20:32
I have tried, but I really can't sculpt wings.
And of course, the way these wings look now, is not the way they will look when I'm finished. They have yet to be converted and resculpted for quite a part.

Besides, I already ordered new plastic wings to give back to Woudschim ;)

18-07-2007, 05:09
Excellent start! I just have two little suggestions that I think will help a lot.

Unless you plan on really sculpting a lot more, the wings should be moved a bit up (and forward, if they're to fill the upper arm sockets). I know you said you'll be converting the heck out of them, but right now the position is a teensy bit awkward.

Secondly, the dragon's overbite is pretty profound. I think extending the lower jaw would make it much more menacing.

Great work so far, though - I'll be following this!

18-07-2007, 06:13
Going to check all tips out and see what to use and what not. Thanks! :)

19-07-2007, 09:19
Alright, after thinking things thrugh, I decided to give making-my-own-wings another shot. :)

Also, the body is still moving around (love that clay!) to see what makes a better pose.
The jaw, as some suggested, is a lot thinner and I agree that it looks a lot better. Thanks! :)
The arms are not done yet. I'm still puzzling with the anatomy of the muscles and all. Luckly my father knows quite a bit about that. ;)
I've added a paint-picture-thing to try and show basic idea of how the model will become.

As for the wings. To show of the movement in the wings as well, one will be very open and wide, the other closed and folded.

For tonight, a major update since I'm planning on doing the wings, ánd the claws!

In order of app!

- Head with thinner jaw
- Body
- Wings
- Body with paint-add

20-07-2007, 06:52
The prommised major update won't bu up till the end of the weekend.
Due to a disappearing load of greenstuff that is. I can't find it anywhere! :(

But still! Here's the base for the wings, and the base for the dragon.




26-07-2007, 19:31
Here's an update! Sorry for the long waiting, but haven't had time do do much lately. So here's what I'm at right now.


His arm! The muscles have only be placed lightly, the form and vains yet to come! Basic shape it is for now.


One of the wings, with cute little mushrooms!


The dragon with a tad of greenstuff.

This weekend my parents are gone. We've got a house to ourselfs, no work, only silence and plenty of time (And new greenstuff!!) :D

26-07-2007, 19:43
thats looking really cool! I look foward to seeing more

27-07-2007, 09:57
Pretty beefy arms... S shaped body.... only 1 word comes to mind here...


Hideous Loon
27-07-2007, 15:47
Darn it, you Gitt, you beat me to it. Curses!

The sculpted wings look far superior to the stock wings, or they will, if the head is anything to go by. Keep em coming.

27-07-2007, 18:02

And thanks! And I'll keep them comming. ;) Tomorrow, I shall be 'live' @ arnhem in the netherland :P ;)

28-07-2007, 19:23
A very good evening to all!

Yes, I'm in a good mood indeed. I just received some old, really really old, dwarves. Dwarves rule bigtime! As some might know, I collect rare and old edition dwarves. So I'm quite excited, specially since one of them is a kooking-dwarf with a roasted boar :D

Anyways, here's the dragon!


A bit flobby upperarm-under. This will be corrected yet.


And I really love the way his chest muscles worked out to be!


Bit of detail here. Some vains, though they are not done yet but mostly for me to try out making and to find out how-to-make.
On some of these pictures, you might see something strange around the elbow. It's going to be something pointy later on.

Tell me what you think!

28-07-2007, 19:29
This is looking very impressive :D

06-08-2007, 19:46
It has been a while since the last update, but here it is!

I've started working on the legs of the dragon :)
It's only the start, basic shapes etc, the rest will be following soon.
Tomorrow, or some other time this week, I will make a drawing of what the diorama is going to look like (sort of).