PunBusters (Fantasy section)

Hello everybody,

as you know the whole Games Workshop created background is riddled with puns etc. While some of these puns are (often painfully) obvious, others are not that easy to spot. So I'd like (after asking at the helpdesk first) to set up this thread to try to crack these puns to understand them and to include them into a list of puns/ easter eggs, whatever you want to name it like here: http://whfb.lexicanum.de/wiki/Easter_eggs
(at the moment the explanations are in German, translation to English planned next, once a final structure has been established)

So here in post 1 will be listed the unsolved ones - once they have been "solved" or explained I will move them to post 2 where an alphabetical list of the already included puns will be found. You can also submit new puns (not self-made ones, only official background!) here, but be warned that I will report any and all spam attempts to the moderators.

A parallel thread was created in the 40K section for those puns and easter eggs: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...35#post6362835


To solve/ suspected puns:
- Ashrog
- Richard the Righteous

Already listed puns/ easter eggs (see linked-to Lexicanum article for explanations):

Abasko Mountains
Acrylan
Aer Dressair
Akai
Akanslai
Alcatani Fellowship
Aldente
Alfeo Romeo
Ans'l
Aquitaine
Arnie Slicernecker
Asarnil
Asigawa
Atachi

Barathome
Bearmen of Urslo
Benhur
Beorg Bearstruck
Betrand le Brigand
Biggulz
Bilbali
Birdmen of Catrazza
Bog End
Bordeleaux
Borgio the Besieger
Bowmen of Bergerac
Brasthof
Bretonnia

Cappo Cinno
Carcassonne
Châlons
Ciabbatta
Clarissa Lohft
Cochecu
Couronne
Cupah Coco

Da Happy Plunderer
Daddallo
Dan D'Archer
Danby
Dread Indy Babylon

Elodir
Enzo Ferrante
Estalia

Felix Mann
Fernando Pirazzo
Filthy Harald
Forrest of Dean
Fujima

Ginsmytiple
Gobbo Flaque
Gorgon's Ola
Gossippa Lotta
Grim-Loq
Groggo
Grundy
Gui le Gros

Heatov the Knight
Heinrich Kemmler
Hogchops
Honda Susuki
Hugo le Petit
Hytecs

Imrik
Irrana
Itzadeodl
Izitzso

Justintine of Varenna

Klaus Gurtelrose
Kopaketl
Kroak

L'Anguille
Lahmia
Larkin of the Tree
Leonardo da Miragliano
Leopold's Leopard Company
Long Drong
Louen Leoncoeur
Loxley Barrett
Lucrezzia Belladonna
Luthor Huss
Lyonesse

Magritta
Maldred
Marco Colombo
Maximilian Damark
Maymankil
Mengil Manhide
Mikael Jacsen
Miragliano
Mo'rcck
Montemazda
Motta Zorella
Mydas
Mylkbeotl

Nafal Muq
Nagajima
Neferata
Nigel of Bordchester
Nissan
Nitto
Nonucci
Nord of Cleethorpes

Odarlin
Orco

Parravon
Phraz-Etar
Piaza Pizzaro
Piece de Resistance

Quenelles

Rasut
Remas and Remo
Rifraffa
Rodentenland
Roughneck Ricco

Sansui Lee
Sanyo Kawasaki
Settra
Slambo
Soketume
Strogg
Stylinn Coam
Sukiyaki the Incrutable
Sven Hasselfrisian
Sytton De Fence

Thanxaleotl
The Magnificent Sven
Tiktaq'To
Tilea
Tintorezzi
Toshiba Iron-Hide
Toyota
Tynn Khan

Urslo

Vanhel (aka Van/ von Hal/ Hel)
Vanhir
Varenna
Vigor mortis
Villa Vennia, Villa Vedia, Vittoria Viccia
Vim-to
Vlad von Carstein
Voltsvagn

Wotalotabeotl

Xholankha
Xtinki

Yoccan

Zapotec
Zaragoz
Zipanzuma

- Soketume = Possibly 'Sock it to me' (as in 'Hit me with it')


[edit: misunderstood first post]

Thank you laribold.

The "To locate/ where is this alleged pun from:" means that I understood the pun but that I don't have an official source to include it in the list, but thanks anyway :)

@Soketume: great! :) That's definitely an expression that as a non-native speaker I didn't know!

I've always understood the lizardmen names were puns, as follows. If you're wondering how I get ch from x, in the greek alphabet, the letters ch are one letter, chi, written as X, and pronounced as k (although some say ch).

Kopaketl: Copper Kettle. Oddly enough, a local pub/brewery bears this name.

Xilipeppa: Chilli pepper

Ximnipot: Chimney pot

Xokibiki: Choccy biccy, short for chocolate biscuit.

Teneuini: Teeny-weeny, as in small and weak/useless.

EDIT: I can't explain where the GW writers got the names from, beyond just being a joke.

@jedideinos: same to you: The "To locate/ where is this alleged pun from:" means that I understood the pun but that I don't have an official source to include it in the list, but thanks anyway :) I changed the formulation in the start post a bit to make this clearer.

- Von Sapponatheim "Once upon a time"

- Slaan al Din "Saladin"

- Kopaketl "Copper kettle"

- Xilipeppa "Chilli pepper"

- Ximnipot "Chimney pot"

- Xokibiki "Chocky Bicky" - aka chocolate biscuit

- Teneuini "Teeny weeny" - this is a skink, yes?

I now removed the section with "understood pun but mssing source as this really seemed to confuse all posters...

van Hel: Van Helsing?

Luthor Huss: conglomerate of Martin Luther and Jan Hus

Felix Mann: lost brother of Thomas and Heinrich. Or perhaps I'm just making that one up.

Karl Franz: Franz Karl of Austria? His father's full name was Franz Joseph Karl. I've always suspected they did not have as many names back then as we have today thanks to the internet.

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Originally Posted by jedideinos

I've always understood the lizardmen names were puns, as follows. If you're wondering how I get ch from x, in the greek alphabet, the letters ch are one letter, chi, written as X, and pronounced as k (although some say ch).

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Chi/X was historically and in Greek pronounced like the German ch, not as k; example Christos. It's called a glottal fricative. The letter k is kappa, as in the Greek transcription of Caesar (kaisar / Γαιον Τουλιον Γαιου υιον Καισαρα...).

@Lord Solar Plexus: could you give some indication from where in the background (the more obscure one like Felix Mann for example) you took them? Otherwise thanks, will work on them later :)

Beorg Bearstruck - werebear from Hobbit - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beorn
Fernando Pirazzo- famous conquistadore Pizzaro
Leonardo de Miraglino - famous inventor/painter/etc. Mr. da Vinci
Marco Colombo - Columbus, the guy who called Americans Indians
Lucrezzia Belladonna - Belladonna - italian for beautiful woman, Ludrezzia Borgia, daugther Of the infamous pope. It's rumored that she liked poisons

Just a few fast ones...

Thanks Lord Hjamlar, but all of them are already in the list. But good for the Beorn reference.

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Originally Posted by Lord Hjamlar

Lucrezzia Belladonna - Belladonna - italian for beautiful woman, Ludrezzia Borgia, daugther Of the infamous pope. It's rumored that she liked poisons

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Atropa belladonna is also the Latin name for deadly nightshade.

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Originally Posted by Lord Hjamlar

Lucrezzia Belladonna - Belladonna - italian for beautiful woman, Ludrezzia Borgia, daugther Of the infamous pope. It's rumored that she liked poisons

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belladonna also is a poisonous plant

A lot of the Lizardmen ones are originally from the 5th ed armybook (1995). There were some punny names when the army was called "Slann" in 3rd edition, mostly playing with Mayan and Incan names, but with the re-boot of them as "Lizardmen" the silly ones reallo started (Itsibitsi etc).


Just one thing that caught my sceptic eye on your list there; Imrik, source for that? While, sure, it could be a pun on "I am Rick", Ol' Ockham would probably suggest that it is simply an elven sounding name in the style started by Tolkien...

@Scalebug: there are no sources for references in most cases as there are no statements of the authors. That's why there is a warning above the whole thing that says that basically in the best case it's a speculation and not at all to be taken as official. We just collect different ideas of what could have been the references or puns behind it.

"Birdmen of Cattrazza (especially the Cattrazza part)" - Most likely a reference to Robert Stroud, AKA "The Birdman of Alcatraz"

van Hel is the inventor of a dance that's all the rage in Sylvania (VC AB). Luthor Huss is a Sigmarite Warrior Priest of considerable reknown (Empire AB). Felix Mann is a master thief, who in the VC AB steals Vlad von Carstein's ring of resurrection, and I gather he's the same guy as in the Grotrek and Felix book series. Karl Franz, well, you know that guy.

Funny that no-one has gone into the TK names. I would expect them to be a gold mine.

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Funny that no-one has gone into the TK names. I would expect them to be a gold mine.

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I had one AB Tomb Kings lying around in which I read from time to time, but apart from Clarissa Lohft I did not spot that much so far.

Hugo le Petit - Huge the Small. A take on Little John along with
Bertrand the Brigand, Gui le Gros and the Bowmen of Bergerac.

Morgiana le Fay - Morgan Le Fay (The Fairy) of Arthurian Legend

There is also the misterious magical Island of Albion which I am sure is supose to be a take on Avalon which is of course the British Isles.

Of the realms of the world:
Kislev - Slavik countrys
The Empire - Germany
Bretonnia - France under English Rule
Estalia - Spain
Talia - Italy
Araby - North Africa
Southlands - Africa
Ind - India
Cathay - China
Nippon - Japan
Naggaroth - North America
Lustria - South America
Ulthuan - Atlantis

Not sure if that is the kind of stuff you are looking for but hey it's there.