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    Apocalypse air support

    Hey all thx 4 looking...

    imoff to the 13th black crusade in september with chaos space marines based around the emperors children. for my 1500 pt apocalypse add on i have no idea really. thinking about defilers with flank march to kill those big tanks with and titans (lol) but the point is this - i need some flyers! not to bomb the crap out of the enemy but as an anti air option so im really looking for fighter support. now i dont have the foggiest about them but i know i can take anything chaos, space marine or imperial navy. what would you guys suggest? i want nice cheap models both money and points wise :chrome:

    any ideas welcome for both air support and apocalypse add ons!!! tyvm!

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Anything with anti-air mounts is a safe bet against flyers. I think (no book ATM) that a lightning or two would be a safe bet. Either that, or a thunderbolt (believe that they've got anti-air capabilities in the imperial armour suplement).

    Personaly I would've taken one of each, or just two lightnings, or if you're looking for only one I would say that the lightning is the safest bet

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Well, what I always intended to do was scratch build a handful of traitor Thunderbolts. It's the cheapest its gonna get, I don't think it'd be insanely hard, and having several of them to form a squadron would be brilliantly characterful.
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Easy answer... but not cheap...
    Buy a couple Hell Blades. If I remember correctly, they are Interceptors (so they use their BS to shoot other flyers) and with Autocannons, you have a good shot at taking down all but the toughest flyers.
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    even cheaper is just buying a couple of 1/72 fighters (like Tomcats), although a smaller scale there still very big aircraft (my SU........27 I think, is about 12" long, and thats 1/72), then just use the rules for the fighter you want to use, and say the fighter is from a different world of construction

    stick a few oversized 40k weapons on to it and your done

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    arent they like 40 a pop? and do they only have autocannons!? twin linked i guess but still.... would it hurt them to chuck a lascannon in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Tiger View Post
    even cheaper is just buying a couple of 1/72 fighters (like Tomcats), although a smaller scale there still very big aircraft (my SU........27 I think, is about 12" long, and thats 1/72), then just use the rules for the fighter you want to use, and say the fighter is from a different world of construction

    stick a few oversized 40k weapons on to it and your done
    i dont think i would be able to look myself in the eye if i did this.... does it work? why have i got a picture in my head of a spitfire with the mark of slaanesh and a terminator head shoe horned into the cock-pit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjayc50 View Post
    i dont think i would be able to look myself in the eye if i did this.... does it work? why have i got a picture in my head of a spitfire with the mark of slaanesh and a terminator head shoe horned into the cock-pit...
    trust me it does work, 1/72 MODERN jets are huge models, and work perfectly.

    if your thinking spitfire, then your thinking the wrong age, and 1/72 spitfires are tiny

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Thunderbolts are the supreme anti air aircraft for chaos/imperium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Tiger View Post
    trust me it does work, 1/72 MODERN jets are huge models, and work perfectly.

    if your thinking spitfire, then your thinking the wrong age, and 1/72 spitfires are tiny
    Got any specific recommendations?
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Quote Originally Posted by Varath- Lord Impaler View Post
    Thunderbolts are the supreme anti air aircraft for chaos/imperium.

    4 S7 Rerollable to hit anti aircraft shots? YES PLEASE!

    Hell Blades do exactly the same job and are cheaper in points and cost
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    I've got a lovely 1:48 F-15 E. Strike Eagles are hot... And it is actually about the size that a 40k plane should be, as the pilot seats are still tiny enough for a 1 inch fig (realistic scale that is), despite being technically out of scale. Itd be nice as a VDR with an assault cannon, 4 HK missiles and 2Advanced Bombs.

    Or make it a tau Gue'vesa fighter, call the assault cannon a CIB and give it 4 Seekers a networked ML and the kitchen sink. (Not that that helps a chaos player much.)
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    hell blade models do look the mutts nuts dont they. most air units are armour ten arent they so that might stick. 3 to glance and all. all you gotta do is stun them to stop them ruining your day... might get 2 just to annoy people.... still thats like 80 quid! nevermind... il just sell some stuff on ebay that i dont use... (anyone want some sisters of battle?) what about the rest of the addon force? we havent had any ideas about that yet! i love the idea of defilers coming on from their board edge straight into a titan.... that makes me lol...

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Well I own a hell balde, and it is a nice kit, in fact more forge world i've seen is worth the price (detail and all that jazz) so a hell balde or two (or 6, you know for slaanesh lol) would be well worth the investment
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan Rimmo View Post
    Got any specific recommendations?
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Doesn't seem very 40k on the other hand. Imperial Navy borrows heavily from WWII design, Late war Luftwaffe planes MIGHT do it but if its character you want I think you have to pay FW prices or do as Rimmo suggested and do a little scratchbuilding.
    Or, if its only AA you want, convert a Hydra or VDR something similar.

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    72 are too small, a 48 is more accurate. A fighter plane (a current one at least) are over 60 feet in length. WW2 fighters are about half that. That would be aboutscale 11 inches for a fighter. or 5.5 if you want a more old fashioned one. However, 40k vehicles are usually out of scale with those dimensions due to heroic, so 16 inch 1:48s fit better.
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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    72 are too small, a 48 is more accurate. A fighter plane (a current one at least) are over 60 feet in length. WW2 fighters are about half that. That would be aboutscale 11 inches for a fighter. or 5.5 if you want a more old fashioned one. However, 40k vehicles are usually out of scale with those dimensions due to heroic, so 16 inch 1:48s fit better.
    As said, modern planes though are much bigger, and so even in 1/72 scale are not too shabby... Have a 1/72 A-10 I might possibly use for something like this... main problem though is you would probably want to hide any interior of cockpits, as any seats you would see would be tiny.

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    The lightning should have the interceptor rule. Thunderbolt is 'jack of all trades', lightning (not strike) is a light air superiority fighter. Zippy as hell.

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    Re: Apocalypse air support

    I would recommend using Aeronautica Imperialis models in conjunction with Apocalypse games, especially if you expect more than a few models on the board....
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