My question concerns a small gap in the Warhammer lore, on the subject of halfbreeds.
Though I imagine it would be practically unheard of for an Elf and a Human to procreate (due to Elven pride n' that), does/can this happen? And more importantly, is there any official fluff on the matter?
My question concerns why the **** do you care if your little elf models can have sex with your little human models?
Probably, but this fact is conveniently swept under the rug.
On behalf of those capable of responding to threads without sounding like an aggressive idiot:
I think, though I'd have to check, half-elves (or half-humans I suppose depending on your POV) are mentioned in 1st ed WHFRP. It wouldn't surprise.
There used to be half-orcs, but never half-elves (except some dubious bits in the Konrad novels).
I would guess they were dropped after a little while when GW starting subtly changing the background to make it less like the D&D background, which (I understand) has had half-breeds for a long time and still does.
Half-orcs do feature in WFRP 1st Ed. The term also includes those with goblin and hobgoblin blood, as well as mixes with races other than human. They are outcasts from both communities, and band together as merenaries or brigands. Several elector-states have sent extermination parties out into the wilds to reduce their numbers. They were sometimes kept as slaves by humans but that became too dangerous. They speak the common Goblinoid tongue and sometimes Old World.
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I just LOL'd at that. I don't remember the last time I laughed in my office at Warseer. Think I'm going to have to Sig that!Originally Posted by Goosey_J
I understand that there was an official staff post on the Black Library forums on the subject and the answer was no, they have far too different physiologies.
Unfortunately, I have not been able to locate that post, so take this with a pinch of salt.
"There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who, when presented with a glass that is exactly half full, say: this glass is half full. And then there are those who say: this glass is half empty. The world belongs, however, to those who can look at the glass and say: What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse me? This is my glass? I don't think so. My glass was full! And it was a bigger glass!"
-Terry Pratchett
Even longbeards like me must accept that their gaming world will evolve over time. WFRP 1st Ed also allows dwarves and halflings to be wizards, and gnomes still roamed the mountains and fimirs lived in the marshes.
There were also Khorne Ork Stormboyz, beastmen and human bombs in the Imperial Guard, and Harlequins in neon Land Raiders so the changes aren't restricted to Fantasy!
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As far as I know, there are no half-Elfs or half-anything in Warhammer Fantasy at the moment.
Errrr, Dragon-Ogres anyone? Well, your grandmummy was a dragon who was asleep and your grandaddy was a nasty perv ogre...
GoldSwords
Dragon-ogres are not a cross between Dragons and Ogres, despite there name sounding like it. Rather, they are one of the few original races from before the Old Ones came to the Warhammer World, along with Dragons. So while they are related to Dragons(probably), they were around long before Ogres were.
The name have likely more to do with human ignorance than with anything relating to there origin.
If anything, the Ogres are derived from the Dragon-Ogres, rather than the other way round.
But as for the question? No half breeds as far as I'm aware.
Yeah, I leave halfbreeds for D&D myself.
Ethlorien
nope, no half elves as far as i can tell.
Cheers, everyone. Cleared that up nicely.
There are half-elves in warhammer, they just don't actually have any elf blood in them. Someone slightly fey or pale, born to an unmarried mother will probably quite happily accept the stories about his true faerie heritage rather than accept his mother got drunk and was taken advantage of some minstrels from Nuln.
Or a couple of stories involving vaguely similar heroes get confused and elven blood is assumed to be the reason this guy appears to have lived so long - afterall are you going to call your Grandad, or Hans' Grandad a liar, they both swear they met a guy who rode briefly alongside Peitr Silverspear. Besides, what is so unreasonable about half elves?
Old Therold from Bad Hochbad, the old bridge warden who lost an eye to Beastman raiders has strung up recently for sinning against Sigmar with Heinrich's prize sow! She'd been out of sorts for a while and then all of a sudden she has a litter of piglets and one of them also only has one eye!
Half-lings?
I wonder what a whole ling looks like.
The only reason we don't have half-breeds is because people haven't tried hard enough.
No half-bloods.
Retconned and written off- thats not to say they dont do the nasty- there are several references to 'trained pleasure slaves from cathay' being imported into ulthuan. No halfbloods though.
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