Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

[warflag]

Folks!

It is now the time that the back up army for my traitors get some attention.
I have already shown some of the evil guard in the other thread, but I decided it´s worth its own thread, since it will feature tank scratch building and other stuff which would dilute the compact theme of good vs. evil.

Sooo, what to expect?
I will build an army of traitors, based on the IG codex. That means: Tanks, sentinels, prob rough riders and tons of troops.
Troops are based on Warzone models (capitol?!? the soup plate helmets)
Tanks and all mech will be scratch. And I mean scratch, apart from tracks maybe, and the odd stubber or bolter.
Haven´t decided on beasts for riders, might go for the new cold ones. Any suggestions here?

Time frame about a year or so. I will ask for tips and tricks on casting and other stuff, so those who are into this stuff, keep checking back please, I might ask for help!

As a thread start, be prepared for multi-post!

And off it goes,
five guys finished



Close up



whole squad



Another squad started



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[rrchristensen]

Darn, these are awesome!

[warflag]

And third squad built
See the rocket launcher guy and the plasma dude



The specialists mentionable



And the officers.
All the same model, slight alterations make a big difference




And the whole damn bunch as far as cut from sprues





A word on the models: All in all nice to work with. The plastic is a bit harder than GW´s. There are four different models, an officer, a specialist with armoured coat and two different poses regulars. So some rebuilding is neccessary. At least some, I can´t help it.
I have 120 of them, 15 € höhö. 40 more to cut out, 90 to build completely.
The paint turned out to hesitate to stick on the models, but I can be convincing.

Now on to the tanks

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[Xollob]

where did you get the models from?

[warflag]

Made concepts for the tanks, already shown off, but to make this complete I post them again here.

The russ variant. A big-wheeled monstrosity, will turn out a bit longer than the standard model, equal in height. The turret sports a glass cabin. The fluff goes like: A poisened surface with bad visual conditions needed a version that made direct seeing neccessary. But the gunner had to be protected. The solution: Space-craft glass.
The wheels came for the need to operate in swamps.
I will make some of the FW versions. The turrets at least.






The basilisk version.
Most striking is the cannon pointing backwards. It is mobile artillery, but it is usually "pulled" in this case. It will however sport a cabin that points backwards, for battlefield maneuvering.




The chimera variant will have a flatter cabin, more of a panorama window, next to the bolter position. No decision on the wheels yet.
Suggestions?

Sentinel also features the cabin. It will look scary. Pics soon for both!


Concerning models (infantry). I will use commissars, priests and maybe psykers. Priests will be scary looking hooded cloaked guys, representing the evil driving force behind this treachery. Commissars prob more of a higher ranked officer, evil regime=evil methods!

And something that can´t be missing in a traitor army: We all remember the Chaos champions entry from LatD. Right, I will field some as well, counts as Deathwatch. And the good part: True scale Chaos marines, very dark and evil looking. But these are a special, not for use in regular connection with my CSM.

Yeah, that´s it for now.
Any ideas, questions, flaming for fielding guard without a single GW model?
I´m open for everything, let me know!

Cheers
Bart


EDIT
First replies fly in as I post

rrchristensen, thanks mate
xollob, Warzone models, from ebay

[MF3000]

Oooo I cannot but subscribe to this

Great stuff, what are the infantry's base models?

sj

[Allen]

Oooo I cannot but subscribe to this

Great stuff, what are the infantry's base models?

sj

Warzone models.
Great concepts for your vehicles: really good indeed.

[sigur]

Looking nice so far. Those are dipped though, aren't they?

[CrabHermit]

I will build an army of traitors, based on the IG codex. That means: Tanks, sentinels, prob rough riders and tons of troops.
Troops are based on Warzone models (capitol?!? the soup plate helmets)
Tanks and all mech will be scratch. And I mean scratch, apart from tracks maybe, and the odd stubber or bolter.
Haven´t decided on beasts for riders, might go for the new cold ones. Any suggestions here?

Hey, those minis are getting quite popular, I started collecting a guard army based on them myself some months ago
They are Imperials (aka the Brit/Irish/Scot Corporation), Capitol is more like the US corporation, as far as Warzone background is concerned.
I have tried a couple of conversion to turn some of them into rough riders, as you plan to do, and I had some trouble with the upper part of the legs. Maybe you would have to sculpt this part anew if you want the mini to sit on the saddle not too oddly.

[warflag]

Looking nice so far. Those are dipped though, aren't they?

Nope, wouldn´t do that. My geek pride forbids
The impression might come from the excessive use of chestnut ink on them. I wanted a gritty look, still a bit of red to make them fit my CSM.

To clear this from the start, paint scheme goes like this

Armour:
A chestnut colour, vermin brown might come close.
Chestnut ink
Orange highlight
Dark torquise in recesses
Azure blue to highlight
Chainmail on edges, some scratches

Black parts
Well, black
dark grey
Codex grey
Fortress for extreme highlights

The facemasks have some other colours to them, like metal detail, brown leather parts etc.
Visor on officers cap: Black, codex grey in a reflexion pattern, same with white

The uniform

Grey on black undercoat. Let black shine through the grey where shadows are
Chestnut ink
Graveyard earth on top sides
Highlights with kommando kaki

Metals:
Boltgun
chainmail
Chestnut ink
Mithril

Hey, those minis are getting quite popular, I started collecting a guard army based on them myself some months ago
They are Imperials (aka the Brit/Irish/Scot Corporation), Capitol is more like the US corporation, as far as Warzone background is concerned.
I have tried a couple of conversion to turn some of them into rough riders, as you plan to do, and I had some trouble with the upper part of the legs. Maybe you would have to sculpt this part anew if you want the mini to sit on the saddle not too oddly.

Thanks for the info!
Yeah, I figured riders will demand some sculpting, but only a few, not mass conversion as my Orks. So that is fine with me.
I want to do some sculpting on commissars anyway. Originally I wanted to give all officers long coats, but scrapped that, as I had done three of them allready, and no want to redo them

@ Allen, thanks dude, I like the tanks aswell. Hope they turn out as well in the flesh.

You scratch builders out there: Where do you get your tanks tracks? Any ideas?, What costs do I have to expect?


Cheers
Bart

[KlutzyKultist of Kaoz]

I like the feel and the colors, but i do feel you could have converted some wicked evil looking guard from the standard stuff.

[Falkus Kibre]

Can you give me a link to these guys?

[Falkus Kibre]

please? I realy would like some

[warflag]

Hi, sorry for not updating these last days. Was quite busy.

Falkus, no link to my knowledge. I bought them off ebay. Search for "warzone, imperials" or warzone plastic. Sorry, no better news on that side.
A link to an auction that has the minis:
http://sammeln.shop.ebay.de/items/Sa...86Q2ec0Q2em282

Klutzy, no weird chaos stuff, no tentacles, no horns, simple dark gritty traitors. I will add chaos symbols and the like, and chaos might show on ogryn equivalents, but that´s it!
I wil start on tanks hulls this week. Any ideas about a decent chimera variant?

Cheers
Bart

[Falkus Kibre]

Could I buy some off you?

[D35t0y3r]

from the paint in progress models it doesn't look like you use primer. is this true, or is it just the colours or something, terrific look to by the way.
regards,
-Jason

[bluebugs]

I normally don't like IG, good or bad. I just think they look all too earthy and not sci-fi enough. But I love those models. Much more out of this world.

[Grenader]

Great stuff. I can't wait to see the models of some of your tanks.

[gonzosbignose]

These all look amazing...

I dont really know what to say...

Concept sketches are incredible, and the detail and work on the figures is phenominal.

Kudos

regards

My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer

[Jimbobjeff]

Those look great! the only thing I dont like is the heavy weapons, id go for a bigger base rather than have it hanging off the edge.