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    Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    After listening to the latest garagehammer episode I really fancy making a chaos dwarf army.

    Now I know there is the Indy gt list and the 2 page ravening hordes list but what about using them as normal dwarfs? Which would you rather see a chaos dwarf player use?

    The reason I ask is I don't want to build a list for one type and then not be able to use it at tournaments. I know my local group wouldn't care much.

    Thank in advance.

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Normal dwarfs would lose pretty much all of the theme of the army.

    The ravening hordes list isn't half bad in 8th edition. Plenty of artillery, access to both cheap and elite infantry blocks, good magic and really easy to get ld 10.

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    I use the ravening Hordes list, you really lose a lot of flavor if you use the vanilla dwarfs book.
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    Go ravening hordes! thats what I do and the Chaos dwarfs are great in 8th.
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    And I'll add a voice for "use the ravening hordes". The nature of the army itself is about the hobby approach. If you want to go to a tournament, just use your regular armies, don't spoil the "hobby army" by restricting your theme to competitive play. An army like CD is about converting and having fun, not about digging out the ancient artifact of power to crush all the opposition, right?

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Any self-respecting Chaos Dwarf would rather die than use the Dwarf book and thus resorts to Ravening Hordes.

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    indeed.. Ravening hordes..

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nkari View Post
    indeed.. Ravening hordes..


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    Use the Ravening Hordes list, The Dwarf list just makes them...boring.
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    If the ravening hordes list was not availabe, then I would say use dwarfs for lack of a better option. But if you have the list, then it is best to use that. Pretty hard to shoe horn bull centaurs and hob gobs into regular dwarfs.
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Now there is a good list of common magic items, Ravening Hordes is a good solid option.

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    As Odin says, the new items in the BRB means that the Ravening Hordes list is a lot better. And the latest FAQ for that list advises you to use whichever OnG book is current for rules/ prices for any Greenskins in the army. So that means ITP Black Orcs with Choppa great weapons for you.

    I still use the Ravening Hordes list, I had a look though the Indy book that was produced but didn't like it. Too many units "spoiled the broth" for me...
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Yeah I know that it does kill some of the options and flavour playing them as dwarfs but the reason I ask is the GW tournaments such as 'Ard boyz do not allow Chaos Dwarfs at all.

    Maybe I should play safe and build the army with the Ravening Hordes as the mainstay but with the capability to transfer tehm to a chaotic Dwarf Army should I need to.

    I also notice no love for the Indy GT list?

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTGamer View Post
    I also notice no love for the Indy GT list?
    Whilst I approve of anyone who puts the time and effort into writing a proper fandex (I know how difficult it is- I've been working on an Estalian one for over a year now...and am nowhere near finished!), there just seemed to be too many things in it that felt like they were included simply because the creators thought "Ooh...that's a cool idea, lets bang them in!"

    The Ravening Hordes list is fine as it is- it contains all the things you could get in the old WD presents: Chaos Dwarfs...Chaos Dwarf warriors and blunderbuss's, Bull Centaurs, Earthshakers and Death Rockets and a goodly mix of greenskins.

    The reason I'd not recommend the Dwarf book is, as others have stated, you lack the things that made it unique- slow, powerful infantry, cheap infantry, fast cavalry and magic.

    As noted above, if you have all the figures and want to take them to a tourney, WoC are probably the best bet:

    Warriors- Chaos Warriors
    Hobgoblins/ Wolfriders- Marauders, Marauder Horsemen
    Earthshaker- Hellcannon
    Centaurs- Knights
    Sneaky Gits- Forsaken (bit of a stretch) or AHW Marauders
    Great Taurus- Dragon
    Lamasu- Manticore

    OK, so there's no blunderbuss's or bolt throwers, but you do get a decent amount of choice with the above. You could even throw some Black Orcs into the mix as warriors with a different mark.
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    The indy GT list has even less tournaments that allows it.. and I didnt like the indy list that much myself..

    Overall I think the hordes list is fine.. just minor tweaks here and there.. and its fine.. =)

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    My mate is using the WoC armybook, its a good choice to bash bash CD's.
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    What? How? No Goblins, no Black Orcs, no shooting, no warmachines, no Bullcentaurs...

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korraz View Post
    What? How? No Goblins, no Black Orcs, no shooting, no warmachines, no Bullcentaurs...
    warriors warriors and more warriors + knight stats as centaurs + human stats as hobgoblins and 2 WMs

    Anyone seen 'mantra's'(spelling) Abyss Dwarves BTW? They are freaking AWESOME! At about a third of the price GW models.
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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Ravening hordes list is the one with op hobgoblins at 2points?

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    Definitely ravening hordes.

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    Re: Chaos dwarfs as Dwarfs?

    I havent seen any Chaos Dwarf lists in a while. When talking bout ravening hordes, are you talking about the little booklet with night goblins on the front produced about 10 years ago or is there an updated version?

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