So I played an Ogre army today @ 5000 pts. I was up against one Horde Ironguts and one Horde Bulls, with characters in both.

I played like a wood elf player and used buildings, hand of gork and Itchy Nuisance to stay away from the hordes.

We played a draw, only around 30 points diffrence. I managed to kill of a 6 strong irongut unit and a 6 strong bulls unit. 3 units of three leadbelchers, a unit of 4 maneaters and a slaughtermaster (miscast and killed himself on a roll of 1).

He took a 48 unit big uns, 50 unit of squigs, 30 nightgoblins, 20 savage orcs, warlord, goblin warboss, savage orc lv.2 shaman and a mangler squig.

My araknarok played hide and seek with his hunter.


One horde is hard, two is too much and he will probably use a third horde in next game where we plan to fight 6000 pts.

I need advices, and solid good ones!!!

And who can give me some nice calculations on following close combat attacks.

Every unit facing 18 ogre Ironguts/18 Bulls

40 Black Orcs
Great Weapon
Twin Choppa
Choppa & Shield

50 Black Orcs
Great Weapon
Twin Choppa
Choppa & Shield

60 Black Orcs
Great Weapon
Twin Choppa
Choppa & Shield

All help welcome, and I believe that I can't beat an ogre horde.
Thanks!!