Early Eldar rumors

[Stickmonkey]

Hello warseer!

I have some very early Eldar rumors. First let me start with a very clear disclaimer:

THESE ARE EARLY RUMORS, CODEX ELDAR IS RUMORED MID TO LATE 2013! I EXPECT MUCH OF THIS TO CHANGE OR EVOLVE FROM WHAT I AM HEARING TODAY!

Ok, very small list, so on to what Im hearing:

Aspects all have a way to move to troops. However, some are limited to one unit only. The phoenix Lords are NOT this mechanism supposedly.

Guardians have a slight points reduction.

Tanks ( night spinner, fire prism, falcon) have a point reduction.

Transports are about the same cost.

Storm guardians are an upgrade of normal guardians.

Rumor those units requiring a guide (wraithguard , wraithlord) longer sit idle when out side range and rolling a 1. Instead they can make a move towards a warlock or other guide. Engaging these units in cc while they are outside their guides range will have penalties, treat as ws 1, i 1. However, guides will have "buffs" they can give. Reroll to hit, bonus save, etc. (To me this sounds suspiciously like changes to nids and the tervigon)

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Aspects all have a way to move to troops. However, some are limited to one unit only. The phoenix Lords are NOT this mechanism supposedly.

sounds like this could be based on Autarch (sp?) upgrades...

[ghost of scubasteve]

This is way too far out to have any kind of points/rules rumors

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...Release-rumors

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[Theocracity]

Thanks for the rumors Stick! Sounds like interesting stuff.

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http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...Release-rumors

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Just let the guy post his rumors, if they pan out cool.. If not.. oh well.
Better to have new rumors to discuss than nothing at all...

[TheDoctor]

All the rumors sound fairly logical to me. Of course, this IS GW we are talking about.

Also, the mid to late 2013 jives with the other rumors we have been hearing about the next couple of 40k releases after 6th/chaos being tau, dark angels, and eldar.

[megatrons2nd]

Isn't Stickmonkey usually off on dates but close if not spot on with details? Maybe I'm wrong but that is the way I remember it. Thanks Stickmonkey, these sound interesting, but I humbly request a bit of clearing up on the wraithguard/wraithlord bits. Thanks.

[MajorWesJanson]

Autarchs make the most sense moving Aspects to troops. Maybe depending on wargear upgrades?
Tanks cheaper, Guardians cheaper, Storm Guardians as upgrades to guardians all make sense.
Seers for Wraith units giving buffs makes sense, especially as that is what warlocks are for. Let warlocks be a unit upgrade, and cast the buff powers, and have farseers do the offensive powers.

[megatrons2nd]

Let warlocks be a unit upgrade, and cast the buff powers, and have farseers do the offensive powers.

I would prefer the Farseers to mess with my opponents ability to deploy, redeploy me, hinder my opponents reserve, and actually have a means to enhance the army, not just a squad or two. Maybe even have a power for illusionary terrain to remove cover saves from opponents, or add to my army.

Adding a battle psycher of similar prowess would be nice though.

[AlphariusOmegon20]

Isn't Stickmonkey usually off on dates but close if not spot on with details? Maybe I'm wrong but that is the way I remember it. Thanks Stickmonkey, these sound interesting, but I humbly request a bit of clearing up on the wraithguard/wraithlord bits. Thanks.

Yeah, That's the way I remember his rumors also. I remember he tends to be a bit late with his time frames, but the info is spot on.

So I'm taking a grain of salt with it and expecting it early to mid 2013, instead of mid to late 2013.

[Spell_of_Destruction]

Guardians have a slight points reduction.

I have long said that with an 18" range catapult a Guardian is worth around 7pts so hopefull they get a buff AND a pts reduction. Still, I would like to have seen them improved to bring their abilities in line with their current cost as any less it very cheap for an Eldar unit. I guess I would be okay with it if they are moved firmly into a support role.

[Romanus]

Thanks Stick, much appreciated.
Also heard that they have played with Wave serpents Energy Shields becoming weaker, in that they loose there negative effects against melta etc. Still these are playtesting rumors at this stage so subject to a huge variable of change.

Cheers,
Rom

[The Dude]

This is way too far out to have any kind of points/rules rumors

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...Release-rumors

Click here for super accurate rumors

This point has now been made. It does not need to be made again in this thread.

I don't want this to devolve into a Hater/White Knight slugfest and will shut this thread at the merest HINT that this is happening.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

The Dude
The Warseer Inquisition

[dæl]

Thanks for the rumours, can I ask about the inclusion of the hornet and warp hunter?

[TheDoctor]

Thanks for the rumours, can I ask about the inclusion of the hornet and warp hunter?

Hasn't GW stated that they aren't going to take any more things from Forgeworld and put them into codexes?

[dæl]

Hasn't GW stated that they aren't going to take any more things from Forgeworld and put them into codexes?

I figured they would at least bring the firestorm over if there's going to be fliers all over the place, although I suppose eldar would gain air supremacy with interceptors.

[The Dude]

They'd be more likely to make up something new IMO

[easternheretic]

Thanks Stickmonkey for the rumors!

In regard to the warp hunter and hornet, I'm under the vague impression that there is a ruling in the new IA books that certain units are for apoc only and certain units can also be used in normal point games as well as apoc.

Unfortunately i can't verify, as it was an off hand remark made by a friend when he was scanning through his new IA book and I haven't actually read the book myself.

Does anyone have the new version of IA and can verify for us please? Thanks.

Cheers

[TheDoctor]

Thanks Stickmonkey for the rumors!

In regard to the warp hunter and hornet, I'm under the vague impression that there is a ruling in the new IA books that certain units are for apoc only and certain units can also be used in normal point games as well as apoc.

Unfortunately i can't verify, as it was an off hand remark made by a friend when he was scanning through his new IA book and I haven't actually read the book myself.

Does anyone have the new version of IA and can verify for us please? Thanks.

Cheers

Without getting into the debate of whether Forgeworld is legitimate or not, most of the stuff without the Flier or Super-heavy rules have a "40k approved" stamp, which means it can be used in regular games. Stuff like super-heavies and fliers have the "Apoc only" stamp, which obviously means apoc only.

[Hendarion]

No, wrong. The Eldar flyers (Phoenix [both versions] and Nightwing) have normal 40k rules and an "official" stamp on them in IA11 - they are like DE flyers in that regard. They also have a sentence saying they might be used as real flyers in apoc games without any point increase. So they are legit already.