okay so here is the gist of the argument. the codex astartes states 1k marines per company yadda yadda yadda. if a chapter breaks with that number and expands its ranks is that enough of a reason to have them declared tratoris? my buddy always tries to excommunicate my chapter because well their fists and despise the ultramarines and guillimen. they believe the code was a mistake and choose not to follow its structure but will follow is battle doctrine. Rogal Dorn did not agree with the Codex until he was given a choice to either have a 2nd civil war or to break apart his legion to placate his wayward brother....