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  • Dark Angels

    10 17.24%
  • White Scars

    4 6.90%
  • Space Wolves

    1 1.72%
  • Imperial Fists

    7 12.07%
  • Blood Angels

    3 5.17%
  • Iron Hands

    14 24.14%
  • Ultramarines

    1 1.72%
  • Salamanders

    7 12.07%
  • Raven Guard

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    First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Hello, if you could decide a First Founding Loyalist Chapter to get some new units, which one would get them?
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Given that SW, BA and DA have already got plenty of unique stuff I think I'd choose Ravenguard, they seem to have a unique way of fighting which is not well represented by the generic marine codex, some more sort of elite jump-pack units, perhaps even some viable precision deep strike and more ways to 'stealth it up' would be awesome.
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Agreed. I really hope they would introduce HH style recon marines at some point. Or at least give options to some squads to represent such.
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Yes, something that really reflects the RG's Hit and Run tactics would be sweet.

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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Whilst maybe not a new unit type, maybe IH could do with some more... mechanical looking marine options.

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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    I want to see the return of 3rd Ed's Raven Guard Command Squads that could have Jump Pack + Lightning Claws... but only if the upgrades cost about the same as Vanguard Veterans. Would give Shrike a reason to actually join his squad instead of some other Jump Pack unit...
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Raven Guard for most of the reasons given above. More infiltrating/stealthy units an mix in some jump packs.
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Iron Hands - at the moment they do not even have a single Special Character, which at the very least all the other first-founding chapters can claim. They really should get a character.

    Beyond that, I would rather see an expansion of options for specific chapters rather than additional units - so Ravenguard being able to take Jump Pack Command Squads, Salamanders giving Master-crafted to Terminators/Honour Guard etc. The current Chapter Tactics are a pretty good way of distinguishing the Chapters at the moment and a few tweaks to make them more significant is better than adding random new units to supposedly mostly Codex-compliant Chapters.
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Iron Hands- Add Stronos as a SC, and Iron Fathers to replace Chaplains/Techpriests- Basically a Techpriest entry with the added zealot rule.
    Raven Guard- PA scouts with sniper rifles and camo cloaks.
    Imperial Fists- boarding marines Boarding shield (5++, 4++ in cc) and bolter or ccw
    White Scars- let any model on a bike take a power spear and combat shield for +15 points
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    raven guard need the love
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Iron Hands needs the iron father unit. However, they also could use anything special. Whoever voted ultramarines can DIAF.

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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrahn View Post
    I want to see the return of 3rd Ed's Raven Guard Command Squads that could have Jump Pack + Lightning Claws...
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    I say just wait for Forgeworld to finish off the Legion rules, then translate some of the 30k special units to 40k, with some 10,000 years of tradition piled on top.

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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anteater View Post
    Hello, if you could decide a First Founding Loyalist Chapter Legion to get some new units, which one would get them?
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beppo1234 View Post
    I say just wait for Forgeworld to finish off the Legion rules, then translate some of the 30k special units to 40k, with some 10,000 years of tradition piled on top.
    This. Port over 2 FW 30K units into the standard list for every chapter.

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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Hold on

    The First Founding are the generic chapters that all other chapters are derived from, and the generic units in the SM codex is basically derived from those.

    Per the Codex Astartes no one should get unique units, and those who couldn't care less about Mr. Guilliman generally do their thing due to chapter tradition..... hence SM is an utterly conservative bunch.


    Unique units really ought be the preserve of newer chapters. Good examples being Black Dragons or Flesh Tearers, who have some unique... challenges... to compensate for
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    The First Founding were the original 20 Legions who were all pretty radically different.
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Though I would love to see my precious Blood Angles get some new models, I think Iron Hands could certainly use a named HQ or two. I mean at least the other founding chapters in the codex have 1 named HQ.
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    So, I realized that I voted in this poll, but didn't offer any ideas.

    I would like to see more units for Iron Hands.
    I would like to see a tactical squad unit with a Sgt. in Terminator armor that can be fielded as a "troop" choice.
    I would like to see an elite 5 man unit with Servo Arms.
    I would like to see a power armor unit with Power Hammers Medusan Immortal style unit for assault.
    I would also like to see a Power Hammer/Storm Shield Terminator unit.
    Finally I think something like a "Vengeance Squad" would be really cool, but I am not sure which direction to go with it. Either some Bikers or Jump Pack assault troops, but the fluff for them is that they are dedicated to making the enemies of the Legion pay, and will give their lives if need be. They would have a special rule making them go faster, but having to take a dangerous terrain test or something (Like they abandon personal safety to bring their fury to the enemy.)
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    Re: First Founding Loyalist Chapters new units [POLL]

    Iron Hands need a character.



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