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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Beppo1234 View Post
    do feel like cowling makes the Gatling Cannon too big compared to the Plasma... kind of makes the model look off balance
    I can leave the cowl off when presented with the Plasma Blaster. This weapon was originally supposed balance the Plasma Blaster and as such these are the only two available so far.

    Once I complete the hellstorm Cannon it will balance out this current project with the cowl in place.

    BTW the Plasma Blaster also gets armour sheathing and a more massive after section.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Weapons Mounted;

    Temporarily to be sure but as a dry run it seems they hang admirably.

    https://i.imgur.com/V9eMciC.jpg


    The Gatling is quite a bit heavier that the plasm Blaster but not enough to unbalance the mounting.

    https://i.imgur.com/3S8QYUR.jpg


    A problem revealed itself on this first application; namely there does not seem room for the ammo drum in the gantry. :bleep:

    https://i.imgur.com/6X9GnQq.jpg


    Also my idea for an ammo belt in the lower body of the titan doesn't seem likely at this time without a major revamp of the magazine position.... :violin:

    https://i.imgur.com/D6HdcL3.jpg
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    something about the angle of the underside of the main body and the galting canon makes me say massive ammo feed

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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Bugger! I feel your pain.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Gatling Gun Rear Subsection

    For those who wish to follow along through each modicum of construction I present the following.

    It may be noted that there is significant relief in the substructure of this section of the construct.

    https://i.imgur.com/p6WFzIP.jpg


    I found that the mounting bracket of the arm was too delicate looking for the mass of the gun so I doubled the thickness of the mounting yoke.
    I used 10/24 countersunk screws and blind nuts to make the universal mountings of the arm.

    This way I can achieve almost a full range of motion for the weapon.

    https://i.imgur.com/FGHOmRV.jpg


    I much prefer the intricacies of the drum style yoke to the bracket style yoke of the original 3D image.

    Adapting the magazine aft section to the increased caliber of the barrels resulted in a few compromises in the overall appearances of the mounting system.

    https://i.imgur.com/zTckkrr.jpg


    I probably could have done without the forward sight but I kept it for its aesthetic value.

    Likewise the bulging midsection of the loader.

    Now that I have fulfilled the need for displaying the inner structure I can proceed with applying the surface sheathing and detail.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Utility or Glitz:

    I've come to a crossroads regarding the magazine.

    Do I go for the more utilitarian magazine belt drawn from the hull if the titan or the ruddy great ammo drum mounted under the recoil/loader aft end of the gun.

    To me the drum offers a small number of rounds compared to the in hull magazine plus it will hang very low on what is already a massive construction compared to the elegant Plasma Blaster and even the multi barreled Quake Cannon.



    Regardless the infeed ports on the sides of the loader needs to be manufactured and positioned.

    The components shown above.



    The layout of the position drawn in which will be aligned with the drum and the hull positions.



    The ports roughed in.



    And the roughed in chambers.
    Last edited by The_Blackadder; 06-04-2022 at 18:39.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Internal feed would seem the way to go.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Just when I thought you were close to done...

    You're going to have to buy this thing a plane ticket if you take it anywhere! Does it sit in the car seat properly, or does it just strap in?

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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Thanks for the thoughts. I've considered all these options including the spent belt clips. They were expendable in Nam.

    Ammo Belt:

    After a few bad starts I finally went back to my original plan of how to create this structure.

    Also I decided to commit to an onboard round magazine rather than the drum attached to the weapon.

    https://i.imgur.com/X0SKDLq.jpg


    The reason is twofold.

    1 The Ammo drum is too bulky to attach to the loading housing and would look ludicrous.

    2 Plus the drum would be too small to store a significant number of rounds. The hull would be a better option.

    Maintaining flexibility was also a challenge which necessitated splitting the rounds on the ammo belt strip.

    Since the belt is merely for show I can make this presumption.

    It took me two weeks to come up with a viable plan and I haven't even applied the details;

    Whew!

    BTW I am getting notifications that this forum is not a "secure website" which makes Warseer difficult to sign into. Can anything be done to remedy this?
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Inquisitor Engel View Post
    Just when I thought you were close to done...

    You're going to have to buy this thing a plane ticket if you take it anywhere! Does it sit in the car seat properly, or does it just strap in?
    Once I complete the gatling gun I'll be able to start detailing the entire model. That is where the true fun begins. As for transporting, the model breaks down to two basic sections.

    I guess I'll have to buy two tickets for him.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Same issue with log in, I thought they had resolved this when it happened a couple of months ago.

    The ammo belt would be a pain to do.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Back in the Saddle Again

    After being laid up with yet another bout with Covid, the worst one yet, these past few days have seen me in a flurry of industry where I managed to add quite a bit of detail to the upper works.

    This first images of the superstructure shows the angular shaped stained glass window frames that decorate the bastions in groups or threes;

    https://i.imgur.com/xMufwQy.jpg


    I made dozens of these basic decorations and they are used throughout the model in various sizes. Each one will ultimately be embellished with cut out paper 40k stained glass themes.

    https://i.imgur.com/YDoLBcY.jpg


    I may or may not cut these out and install lighting behind the frames but that is far down the road from where I am today.

    The next images show the gatling blaster mounted once again with the rear position of the gun mechanism lined up with the hull magazine. Amazingly it lines up with the proposed belt chain of projectiles even though I had not initially planned for this.

    https://i.imgur.com/UAqWxzp.jpg


    https://i.imgur.com/tx26jkL.jpg



    And another view for clarity....

    https://i.imgur.com/wSZEzAV.jpg
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Bastion Base Detail

    Yeah I know; it looks like a step backwards but it took me a couple of days installing these stained glass window frames and the details thus far.
    But now I can install the finer detail items such as layered armour, skulls and Aquilae, corner angles and tchotchkes. You'll see where I am going with this..
    https://i.imgur.com/twsCGYl.jpg


    I've already decided I need to make two more building structures, rectories if you will' between the front and rear bastions which will really make the interior of the superstructure really POP!
    https://i.imgur.com/OTa0XJJ.jpg


    But right now I am excited about how will these components have come out.
    https://i.imgur.com/bY9Obu9.jpg


    Naturally these will not be stacked like these but instead will serve as the corner bases for the superstructure.
    I just thought it would be fun to show them of before I install the really fun details.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Got a veritable Kill Team table's worth of terrain right there. Probably a fun map on its finished back too.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Ye Gods, Has It Been That Long!

    Over the past six years and four months since I started this project I've been repeatedly asked, What colour am I going to paint this beasty.

    Well I've finally found a colour scheme I think will be befitting this endeavor.

    It combines the understated mechanical appearance of a Lucius Pattern Emperor Titan with the garish opulence of the upper works.

    The concept is credited to Joazzz2, the original 3D designer of the images I follow.

    https://i.imgur.com/S2KmceV.png


    You can see I quite a bit of detailing still to do on the upper works before I commit to painting.

    And the four spires on the superstructure will be "Vengeance Weapons Batteries" for aerial defense.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Those Guns will work.
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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    The detailing around the guns is really looking great. There's so much depth to the model.

    I am going a bit lore-nerd though. For what it's worth, that's a Chaos Imperator. The full-sized version lacks a lot of Aquilas and has A LOT of eight-pointed stars... Based on the black with red trim it looks like it's supposed to be the Legio Interfector. Still, the gold/stone/metal mix of the cathedral is probably pretty standard and it does look good.

    The latest version of Adeptus Titanicus includes the most comprehensive list of loyalist paint schemes we have, if you're still looking for inspiration. Legio Honorum has that red and black going for it, though the Legio Crucius is predominantly black if that was your intent.

    And of course you deserve to paint it however you damn well please!

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    Re: Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Thanks for the info. I'm not going for the Chaos version but I still like the colour scheme and I see very little need to follow a particular colour or chapter with Imperial Titans. I like the way it looks and that's that.

    Meanwhile:

    Are We Having Fun Yet!

    It took me the better part of a week but I finally have 22 cathedral style window frames for my buttresses.
    Basilica Adminstratum

    https://i.imgur.com/7DCwNlo.jpg


    I cut them out from the panels of couple Basilica Adminstratum kits I had lying about.

    https://i.imgur.com/tiCkgUP.jpg


    Cripes! Blackadder Do you know what those kits are worth?

    Yeah, in point of fact I just purchased one on ebay for a hundred bucks free shipping ( I still need more windows and door panels.)

    https://i.imgur.com/5tQiZge.jpg


    But "In for a penny, in for a pound." I always say. It's only money.

    https://i.imgur.com/STHfTYG.jpg


    So, was it worth it?
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    They do look good. I admire your dedication to this project.

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    They look phenomenal. I don't think there's really a way to do this project justice in a human lifetime if you're not going to be using some prefabbed bits. Can you try to source them through a 3d printer though? Would be a lot less labor intensive, and a lot cheaper!!

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