It's a pretty simple question i guess, are non-human races able to become Vampires?
And related: Can Skeletons and Zombies be made out of ANYTHING dead?
It's a pretty simple question i guess, are non-human races able to become Vampires?
And related: Can Skeletons and Zombies be made out of ANYTHING dead?
they can and are...
http://uk.games-workshop.com/dogsofwar/cursed/1/
don't know about the vampire question tho...
There was an earlier discussion about the vampire issue - cannot reach the conclusion, but I think it was suggested that few vampires would be weird enough to try vampirising non-humans.
Yes, I recall that one. Dunno if it came to a conclusion though. I would suppose that a Dwarf or an Ogre (he wouldn't have any problems, he manages to imbibe blood through his regular diet, so to speak) could be vampirised, but Skaven would be of a far too high metabolism to become vampires, they would perish within minutes.
And that non-human vampires would probably explode.
(Or at least be rather badly mutated. I still prefer the 'splodiness, though.)
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It's impossible for anything other than human to become a vampire by being bitten. It's like half-breeds, it just doesn't happen in warhammer.
However, that's only by being bitten. I can fully imagine a Dark Elf Sorceress or an overly curious High Elf alchemist creating an elf-friendly version of Nagash's vampire-juice. Heck, Ogres might be able to brew it up thanks to particularly un/lucky Butcher looking for the perfect sauce...
And I'm pretty sure there's a small clan of mildly vampiric skaven with an aptitude for Necromancy thanks to living under Sylvania for too long... They were in a WHFRP book, weren't they?
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The skaven you refer to were in a 'bits left out' selection of clans on the BI website. In my opinion their omission was quite correct.
Ah, the Geniveve Novel, there was a dwarf vampire at the convent of Eternal Night and Solace.
Anything can be vamped.
I am with Revlid here. Nagash created the exiler of life to make humans immortal, I doubt it works on other creatures. Plus we have never heard of any other than human vampires in the background. Maybe, if you got the original potion, you could adjust it to work on non-humans, but I doubt Neferata or Nagash want to share their receipts.
It does not seem that the other races really need it. Powerful skaven lords live for centuries, elves live thousands of years, orcs don't fear death. I don't know about dwarfs, but humans seem pretty unique in wanting to live forever, but not being able to.
I'm pretty sure anything can be a skeleton or zombie, too. Assuming its a vertibrate, of course. I guess you could have a zombie octopus or bug, though.
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The rotten leviathan from the zombie pirates list is technically a zombie, correct? So even great sea monsters can be turned into zombies. Guess you can really turn anything into zombies; we have already models of human zombies, elves, dwarves, dogs, dragons and horses.
Any living thing can be a zombie, it's just a re-animated corpse.
Vampires, however, are a bit more complicated.
I'm just surprised i remembered my old log in details.
I think it’d be possible to calculate the recurrence rate of topics like this. The question of none human vampires seems to resurface on a four or five month cycle.
Vampirism in the warhammer world (unless it’s caused by chaotic mutation), is essentially the process of cutting off a mortal’s soul from the Realm of Chaos. The price you pay for this is that your essence in someway stagnates without the dynamic stuff of change, and you’re forced to either tap into the winds of magic, or sucking the soul-fire out of other living creatures.
We don’t know if the souls of other races differ in some fundamental way in comparison to human souls, but it’s strongly implied (especially in the case of elves and greenskins). It could simply be that vampirism just can’t arise in any other race. For example, the elves have a very special dynamic with the winds of magic and the Aethyr and it could well be the case that drawing the soul entirely within their mortal frames is fatal.
To be honest, the imagery could be bent to accommodate or exclude other race vampires. Someone just needs to make a firm decision.
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So, an Elf Vampire thall is in?awesome
I've just been having lots of whacky ideas about theming my new VC army (mainly to get around using the horrible skeletons). An elf vampire raising a host of his fallen kin was just one of them.
We really can’t say. Thinking about I think someone once mention that Rick stated that elf and dwarf physiologies aren’t compatible.
I just though it was worth starting that in a case like this the imagery can be bent either way. I keep going though phases of either hating the idea of nonhuman vampires with a fiery passion and thinking it’d be quite interesting. So I’m a bit hesitant to offer up a view, because I know my opinion is likely to change.
“Who knows what horrors lurk beneath the Trapdoor?”
Any race can be gifted the Blood Kiss and turned into a Vampire. The thing is that usually only humans will take it willingly, and most vampires, being human, only ever desire to give it to other humans. And Strigoi hate everyone and wouldn't even try to gift to anybody the blood kiss.
I was told that the Elder races can't be turned into vampires. The comments came straight from the horse's mouth - R.P.
Something about the nature of their souls and/or their resistence to magic.
Make of that what you will.
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GW featured a fully converted High Elf Blood Dragon's elven undead army in one of the old White Dwarfs, though, so it would appear that they support such deviations from the canon if it is well thought out and presented.
It'd make sense for elves not to be vampires, of course, why would they want to?
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“Who knows what horrors lurk beneath the Trapdoor?”
On the other hand, though, it looks as though that wasn't a High Elf Blood Dragon - his face seemed to be that of a skeleton as opposed to a vampire, while the mages accompanying the army were converted to look like Necromancers. Now, if somebody has that WD with them and can provide the number, then feel free to disagree/disprove this, but I'm about 80% sure that it was just a overpowered skeleton using the Blood Dragon statline rather than an actual elven Blood Dragon.GW featured a fully converted High Elf Blood Dragon's elven undead army in one of the old White Dwarfs, though, so it would appear that they support such deviations from the canon if it is well thought out and presented.
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