I have never seen anyone play it, let alone talk about it.
I have never seen anyone play it, let alone talk about it.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/busines...day/index.htmlOriginally Posted by massey
Yes, Games Workshop hates when people like their armies. I have it on good authority that Jervis Johnson keeps a list of people who buy things other than Space Marines, and he's planting car bombs outside their houses. They hate people who spend money on their plastic toys.
Well, if you want to discuss Warmaster, I'm happy to oblige... I'm a little miffed myself over the lack of "action" here...
Anyways, I play Mortal Chaos, how about you? I've got a saround 1.5K pts painted, another 2-3K pts in blisters waiting for some love and attention. heavily Khornate themed btw...
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WM was osmething I started back when it 1st came out, but a distinct lack of players, and a lack of support from GW (as far as I was concerned) put the kybosh on for me...
Still is a great game, though criminally undervalued in my opinion.
I played a couple of times, rules system seemed a bit bizzare compared to other 10 mm systems I've tried.
Still wouldn't mind attempting to play games of "mini warhammer" using the models though, the dinky things look neat.
As far as I was concerned Warmaster suffered from them same draw-back as Epic, Inquisitor and Aeronautica Imperialis: Scale.
I already have a large collection of 28mm scale terrain and models and in all these games a large proportion of the collection is useless. To play them I would basically be starting again from scratch - and since I only ever play with fully painted armies and on fully painted terrain (since that is a major part of my enjoyment of any game) that would mean a significant commitment of time and money before my first game!
That thought just put me off before I started!
True.. I remember when inquisitor came out we all just played it using converted 40k models.
I've got three buddies with Warmaster armies. Although we don't game as much as before (living in different cities, jobs, school, etc.) we get to do some battles now and then. I have well over 2000p. of High Elves painted.
When we started playing we barely built any terrain for it. We simply used our old WFB/40k trees, rocks formations, hills, etc. We don't consider them "off scale" but "magical". Warmaster scale buildings are really quick and easy to do since you don't have to bother that much with detail.
In my opinion Warmaster is the best game GW has put out. I'm quite surprised how few people actually play it. And at first it wasn't really due to lack of support from GW; there was a decent amount of articles in WD when the game came out and during the Albion and Storm of Chaos campaigns. And what comes to armies, all WFB armies except for Wood Elves, Ogre Kingdoms (than gods) and Beastmen have minies and rules available. And come to think about it none of the missing armies really suit for WM anyway.
I guess what hurts WM and others specialist games most is that they're not available at hobby stores and they don't get two or three army books a year and 40 pages of advertising a month.
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Sheer lack of interest from players in my local groups made it a no-no for me. Pity, as i really like the tk models.
I don't see it as dead, just limping along. Just like all Specialist games a dedicated core of players can revieve it. All these great games suffer from the same problem, lack of exposure. If you and a buddy started playing it on a small scale and did it consistantly it would grow into a following. I have seen it happen with Epic and BFG and sometime later this year I plan to do the same thing around here with WM.
I single-handedly created the Epic scene in my area, with over 20 players now...
Be enthusiastic, get a few demo armies, and convert 'em!
I have five people in my gaming group that all have warmaster armies. I acutally just got in to it about a month ago. We are starting a campaign in July and cannot wait for it to start.
Like Chaos said just get one other person into it start playing consitently and you will create a following. Like the old saying goes "If you play it they will come".
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the problem also lies in the fact that GW stores consider specialist games a different company, making it even harder to play in GW stores.
Warmaster: Kislev, Khemri, Dwarves
BFG: Pacification (IN), Expeditionary (Tau), Battlefleet (Chaos), Corsairs, Crusade (IN)
DW: EotBS, FSA
LotR: Khand, Gondor, Mordor, Rohan, Easterling
WHFB: Kaihuanotl, Caxuatn
40k: Daughters of Cacophany, Sept Kel'tyr and Ukos'Va, Stormwatch, Kher-Ys
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Warmaster is the only GW game I play, it is the best game GW has ever produced, I have the luck to have my girlfriend as regular opponent, Warmaster suffers from non-promotion from GW, which saddens me, the game is elegant and simple in rules, though complex and diverse in tactics, the miniatures are brilliant, and the look of real army’s instead of the warhammer skirmishes between 200 men is awesome.
WM is the buissness. One more month and our WM campaign will have been on for a whole year!!! We're playing it with the old Mighty Empires rules. My chaos armies are in heated contest with the high elves over the penninsula that lies between our two empires!!!
I have over 5000 pts of mortal chaos and over 6000 in tomb kings. With 2000 pts of empire and lizardmen to help convert any who show interest...
its too bad GW shunted it off to the corner. At least Warmaster Ancients keeps releasing new rules. I hope they do a seige suppliment soon, that the only area where WM lacks.
The main killer for me was the difficulty to personalise it. It's really, really hard to convert anything at such a small scale, and converting is one of the big pullers for me with Fantasy.
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It'll only be dead if no-one talks about it.
At my club, no-one played it for years.
Then I raised the possibility of a Mighty Empires campaign for it. Now there's 8 players and I've just picked up enough Orcs to flesh out my force.
Rock on
Chez
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The worst thing about censorship is ***** ** *********!
I have no words. I burned my dictionary and I have no words.IMHO, wargaming is a social event NOT a "get even with the world" event.
Indeed, everybody thinks no-one play's it, But I've got 4 regular players now, spread across the country
I opened up a Warmaster blog in the painting forums, just to show people, to make everyone familiar with it, to tell it is still existant :P
This game has always intrigued me. I have a bunch of Elf blisters, probably enough for 1 or 2K worth of troops. I just haven't put anything together, not to mention nobody to play against here (that I know of.)
Darth, find a friend and twist their arm into giving it a try. That's all you really need to get a game started.
Thing about WarMaster players is they're almost all 'closet' players, because they all believe no-one else plays it. I'm frankly shocked at the number of WarMaster-capable players I've got locally. I figured I'd have about 4 tops
Go figure
The worst thing about censorship is ***** ** *********!
I have no words. I burned my dictionary and I have no words.IMHO, wargaming is a social event NOT a "get even with the world" event.
The real trick is to pursuade one other person to play, and then play conspicuously infront of the other players. Fairly quickly the "hey, I must be missing out" feeling will start to spread...
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